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A Date with Barbara Billingsley

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 12, 2015

Who knew those words would excite me. We should pummel this chump into the ground. Sorry I’ve been out of pocket lately.


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  1. willedav said, on July 12, 2015 at 7:20 am

    Last time Phils won a game (vs. LA) Barbs of all people got the W.

    I know they flame out some times, but Giants hitters have mostly had a very fine season and way exceeded my expectations and a lot of projections. There are 7 guys with OPS+ over 120, 4 guys hitting over .300, 7 with over .450 slugging. Guys like Panik and Blanco who were barely over .700 OPS last season are now over .800.
    As a team they are first in NL in BA, 3rd in runs, 2nd in OB, 3rd in slugging and OPS.
    All this with Pence missing 3 quarters of season and with Aoki out a month.
    Giants lead league in hits and triples, Belt tied for league lead in doubles. They have hit 70 HRs, while the pitching staff has given up 85. Hmmnn.

    Before you rag on projections, the ones I saw on F/G were spot on about Pagan and MacG,
    Thankfully one of these guys is 3000 miles away. Still not sold Pagan is anywhere near 100%, and his play in the OF is spotty. Couple nice hits lately alongside defensive issues and he does not run ground balls out either.

    Flav, more than a new thread, miss your posts. Hope you’ve gotten to watch last couple games, lot to like.

    • Flavor said, on July 12, 2015 at 8:31 am

      thx Willie. Just been dealing with other things. I’ll be around more often now

  2. twinfan1 said, on July 12, 2015 at 7:42 am

    Already the best infield in the NL ( check it out at Fangraph’s ). With Pagan showing his fire again, it’s a good OF even without Aoki. Then there’s Buster. The pitching is obviously the problem area. Need Casilla and Romo back on track and Cain and Peavy putting out solid starts regularly. Piece of cake ๐Ÿ˜‰
    BTW, despite his streakiness, Belt is putting together a pretty nice season- he’s 4th in extra base hits among NL 1st basemen.
    The deadline transactions will go a long way in deciding the playoff chances but just maybe the odd year jinx will be over.
    Good morning all, time to feed the thundering herd.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 12, 2015 at 8:29 am

      Yep, he’s roped a lot of doubles. I’m surprised Bochy isn’t bringing him to the showcase. ;). It would nice to see a post break power surge.

    • chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 8:33 am

      Good morning Michael. Good to see you post. Hope all is well with you and your crew.

      Regardless, I believe they should trade Belt…Sorry, had to get my trade Belt rant in.

      In all seriousness, at least for RIGHT NOW, I am down with Belt. Of course, this all could change on a dime. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  3. Flavor said, on July 12, 2015 at 8:02 am

    these Pirate announcers went a little bush league on this call. “The best game EVER” in Pittsburgh?

    • chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 8:47 am

      Best ALL-TIME in Pittsburgh…yeah that MAY just be a stretch…

    • twinfan1 said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:59 am

      Yeah, better than one of the most exciting Game 7’s ever. Right.

  4. Flavor said, on July 12, 2015 at 8:21 am

    McGiggles starting at 3rd today for the Marlins

    • snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 10:52 am

      As I reported yesterday, he had two doubles (huh?) and of course, a GIDP…

  5. chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 8:42 am

    Here we are ready to head into the stretch and the dog daze of summer.

    Our boys are 4.5 back of la bumbinos and two out in the WC. The Orange and Black are definitely in the hunt.

    It is apparent the team needs to address a few areas. Those that come to mind for me are:



    Starting pitching

    So, where does Flap Universe see the most need if our boys are to make the post-season, and have the ability to go deep and win it all (breaking that silly-assed odd-year thing)?

    I think the bullpen is most critical right now. After the break, as Twin said, Casilla and Romo MUST return to form, and we need consistent outings from anyone else not named Kontos and Lopez. If that does not happen before the trade deadline, then IMO, Sabevans needs to go get some help, and I would put this as the top priority.

    Even if Aoki comes back healthy, I would love to see them add a guy like Parra, IF he can be had relatively cheaply.

    Also as Michael said, we need Cain and Peavy to consistently put out good starts.

    IF Aoki comes back healthy and picks-up where he left off, and Pagan can return to form for the rest of the second half, AND the bullpen gets its shit together, perhaps they do not need to make any moves.

    BUT, there are a whole lot of “IFS” in those scenarios.

    I think they need to make some moves. What about the rest of you?

    • unca_chuck said, on July 12, 2015 at 9:39 am

      Yup. As Draymond Green recently said, after Kyrie Irving said “if I was healthy, we would have beat the Warriors.”

      “If if’s were fifths , we’d all be drunk.”

    • Lurker John said, on July 12, 2015 at 10:39 am

      Well said, chi. The good news is that both Cain and Peavy have shown good form since returning.

    • Lisle Ellis said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:05 am

      I agree with everything you’ve said Chi. I would only add that improving the bench needs to be a higher priority. Presently, the bench situation trumps the OF. The addition of Parra would nail two birds, helping to resolve a portion of both the bench & OF issues.

      • chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:40 am

        Agree…Parra gives them the OF depth they need with Pagan being an unknown. They jettison Maxwell, and yes, he strengthens the bench. As much as I care not for Arias, I doubt he is going anywhere before the end of the year.

      • Lurker John said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:16 pm

        Arias’s versatility makes him a valuable commodity defensively, imo, and the main reason he’s on the team. Clearly his offense is mostly lacking, but he’s solid with the glove.

  6. chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 9:27 am

    One other observation from last night’s game, Osich got his first ML win.

  7. Lurker John said, on July 12, 2015 at 10:33 am

    Nice comeback by the boys last night. The more I see of Duffy and Panik the more they impress me. Both these guys can flat rake. We had a pretty good idea about Panik after last year, but Duffy has really solidified himself this year and proven that he’s a Major League caliber hitter. Both guys have a great approach at the plate, short, quick swings and great balance. Neither tries to do too much with a given pitch, meaning they take what the pitcher gives them and do damage. They both know the strike zone well and don’t wave a lot at pitcher’s pitches.

    Duffy, in particular, doesn’t appear physically to be a prototypical hitter. 170 lbs, thin as a whip, he’s like the Tim Lincecum of hitters. But he’s stronger than he looks with those strong wrists and hands. His triple last night was a perfect example; he drilled that ball in a tough hitter’s park.

    A couple of years ago a lot of folks were lamenting the purported dearth of home-grown hitters in Giants system. Panik was routinely labeled as a bust and a bench guy at best in the Majors. And Duffy. A late round pick out of Long Beach State, a good baseball school, and a complete under-the-radar kind of player. My point is, maybe the Giants brass do know a thing or two about signing and developing offensive players as well as pitchers.

    • chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:06 am

      Not only have Duffy and Panic shown that they are ML caliber hitters, both have played damned good D this yeah, and contributed to, as Twin said, the best IF in the Senior Circuit.

      I have mentioned this before. Duffy, with his physical make-up and the way he approaches an AB, reminds me of Bill Mueller (1996-2000), who was also a late-round draft pick by the Giants.

      • Lisle Ellis said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:09 pm

        My spidey sense is telling me that these two are exceptional/extraordinary and we are only scratching the surface at this point … Fuck it, I’ll go out on a limb and say in 3-4 years we are looking at MVP – batting title types in these two. It would make perfect sense too in that non-sensical, outta left field, who woulda thunk it kinda way. Everyone saying Giants farm system doesn’t develop hitters … then along comes twin magnicficients … I love irony!

  8. xoot said, on July 12, 2015 at 10:54 am

    Buster broke into BBRef’s top 5 in WAR this a.m. Quietly making his case for another MVP season, helping to win games. Pence went 0-5 w/ 2 SOs last night. Hope his wrist is ok. On the pen, don’t you think a strong Osich would help a lot? We’d see Romo facing far fewer LHs and our collective blood pressure would subside toward manageable.

    • chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:08 am

      Osich has been damned good…but a really small sample size at four IP. I do like the kid’s make-up,and agree, he could be the heir-apparent to Affeldt. But unless Romo and Casilla can get their shit together, I think the bullpen is gonna need some outside help via a trade.

  9. snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 10:59 am

    -The bench needs another hitter, Arias and Adrianza? Come on.
    I’d take another outfielder in place of Maxwell. He had a good game the other day, in between a ton of other suckage games. He’s reverting to his mean, which ain’t good. An upgraded total outfield package is sorely needed.

    – Pen needs another strong arm that can get lefites out, could be from below, trade, or Affeldt comes back fixed, whatever the hell was / is wrong with him. Romo is a gas can with lefties, he can’t be relied on anymore to go through an 8th by himself. And, Lopez apparently can’t be run out there all the time to get LHBs out.

    – I’d wait another round of rotation starts to see how the starters are doing. I don’t think it’s worth getting another starter from somewhere now. The rotation has to fixed and filled in over the winter

    – Oh, and Belt has to be traded. For something… ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:07 am

      Agreed on the rotation. Cain and Peavy should be solid. OF: Parra or Revere could help a bunch. Also wondering whether Duvall would be better on the Giants bench or as a trade candidate to the dink hitter league. Not a plus defender at either first or third, Adam could draw a good setup man and maybe the throw in of an OF prospect by a hungry AL team.

      • chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:11 am

        Yeah, but I seriously doubt Duvall gets a call-up prior to rosters expanding. As I mentioned late last night, he did hit three bombs in a loss to Fresno (now the Afros AAA club).

  10. Carstie Clausen said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:03 am

    Xoot: Check back to the post i made on Osich late last night. Been touting the guy since 3 weeks or so before his callup. With Romo running on fumes it may be just a matter of time before we see more of Josh in late innings. He’s getting his feet wet now and with last night’s win under his belt just keeps looking good. Richmond is loaded with pitching goodies, btw. Perhaps ONE Sabean reliever pickup would be all the team needs from outside the pipeline.

  11. Lisle Ellis said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:10 am

    I’m sensing Cain & Peavy are going to be “ok” – not incredible, but good enough to produce the precentage of quality starts needed to ease up on taxing the BP as we have. However, I’m worried that the damage is already done. Casilla and Romo are spent and we shouldnt use them until late Aug or Sept. Probably, so is Affeldt and we need to DL them all and bring up some kids. The kids can’t do much worse …. can they? And what is up with Petit? How often are they using him? Once every 8-10 days? Throw that dude into the fray more often, let him knock off some rust occasionally.

    • chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:14 am

      I am with ya on Cain and Peavy. Hope they prove us wrong. Not really down with turning the BP over to “the kids.” Giants are right there. And if our current guys cannot get it done, then I think outside help is the answer. Not a lot…but either a late inning guy, or more likely, a closer. I have NO confidence in anyone currently on staff to close for us.

      • Lisle Ellis said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:24 am

        Absolutely … we have no closer at present. I wasn’t thinking of exactly handing everything over to the kids but wondering how much harm could there be in bringing one or two up? Let ’em sink or swim. Seems like our current guys are drowning anyway. Trading this time of year is gonna cost a lot and if we gotta spend lets get Parra.

      • Lisle Ellis said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:26 am

        Bench is the priority, or so I feel.

  12. snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:11 am

    Machi isn’t going to be on the 25 on Aug 1. That seems pretty sure to me…

  13. Lisle Ellis said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:17 am

    If only we could get some offensive consistency. F/G stats are a thing of beauty … God, I do love stats but thats the ‘paper’ team. Timely hitting has been an issue with this team for a long while. We only seem to put that together in spurts during the regular season. But in the post season, when it counts, we rock! WTF? … what kind of freakin argument can one mount against THAT? Wazzamattawidya? … ya donna likea leetle pain?

    • willedav said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:36 am

      Ah, a little pain…heard that line at the gym today where there was a version of Hendrix “Crosstown Traffic” over the sound system. One guy I firmly believe you can not hear enough of is Hendrix.
      A year ago was in Seattle for a mgmt. conference and one of the vendors sponsored a tour of Chiully glass blowing museum.
      And that was nice, but as we parked and walked towards it I noticed a Hendrix theatre or something. Would have loved to check that one out instead.

      • Lisle Ellis said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:23 pm

        That’s the Hendrix museum (I can’t remember if it’s actually called that) it’s quite worth a visit. Also, in the near by city of Vancouver, Canada, there is tiny Hendrix museum (a 200 sq ft room) in a stand-alone structure in the neighborhood Hendrix lived in during a portion of his youth. I’m trying to remember if it was his aunt or grandmother that was a Van resident who he lived with for awhile.

  14. willedav said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:42 am

    I think Twin is right about the trade deadline stuff. There are a lot of buyers, most looking for pitching, and the sellers definitely have some assets to attract attention. Offense is harder to find, other than usual suspects like Marlon Byrd that get moved every year, though not without value.
    At some point it’s all gonna explode, action and reaction.

  15. James said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:43 am

    Xoot, Pence hit LDs at the RF and 2B last night. And this is not directed at you in particular, but he does actually have many crappy games.

    Duffy recently saw his OPS drop 63 points over a nearly two week span. I just can’t stand the dude’s inconsistency . . . . so damn streaky. He’s also hitting 352 w/ RISP. I’ll anticipate the inevitable, severe drop in those stats, and lament the bastard’s inability to hit in the clutch before anyone else does.

    Writing off Romo before his knees or fastball give out makes no sense. Over time, there is no way any ML pitcher is as bad against one side of the plate vs. the other as Romo has been this year except through some shitty luck. And when you’re talking about a mere 39 PAs, chance can definitely play a big role.

    • snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:09 pm

      Relievers don’t get a big universe of batters like starters to smooth out stats. They need to perform right now, or it’s glaring. Romo’s been crap against LHBs this season, that’s an objective statement. If I’m the manager, I can’t ignore that, and wait for him to hopefully rectify it against the next 40 LHBs, as the next 10 of 20 hit ropes off of him…

    • xoot said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:53 pm

      Seconds ago Pence hit a LD to right using nothing but his left wrist, so I guess he’s ok.

  16. alleykat69 said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:45 am

    Theirs talk about the Giants interested in Morse again, I don’t see it. Even though he was great for us at times last year, he’s having a horrible year and is injury prone and really can only play 1st now( which we have covered) and PH.Parra would make more sense with his flexibility to play all 3 outfield spots with the dicey situation we have in our OF he would be a good fit.

    • twinfan1 said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:01 pm

      Amazingly, Mcgeeeeheee leads Morse in virtually every offensive category.

      • alleykat69 said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:37 pm

        That’s beyond scary Michael, but true. The Beast has been that bad, and that says a lot compared to McDP.

  17. chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 11:46 am

    Pagan – CF
    Panik – 2B
    DuffMan – 3B
    Posey – 1B
    Pence – RF
    Belt – LF
    Craw – SS
    Susac – C
    BenHur – P

  18. zumiee said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    Pretty much perfect weather at the ballpark last night. Very comfortable.
    The give-away item was a hard plastic Giants license plate. I like it. It’s cool they’re doing different things with the give-away items.
    Last night the Giants honored the 50 millionth person to come through the gates at AT&T Park. A woman named Grace Witt was greeted at the Willie Mays Plaza main entrance, by Kruk and Kuip. I missed my chance. I came through the gates at the opposite side of the ballpark, near the Lou Seal statue. ๐Ÿ™‚
    During the game, between innings, they played a few different videos showing Giants highlights from the last 15 years, and camera shots of fans. What an amazing shared experience, these past 15 years. The team and the fans. What a remarkable run. The videos were very moving. 40,000 people were getting their bask on.
    Lots of cool moments in the game. One of the greatest, of course, was Kontos’ terrific play, sprinting with the ball to firstbase on that crucial play. It was an exciting inspiring moment.
    While the Phillies were changing pitchers at one point during a Giants rally, the sound-system played the long slow build-up intro to Dire Straits’ “Money For Nothing” and when the intro finally got to Knopfler’s electric guitar chords, the place went nuts with anticipation. The next batter up for the Giants got a hit, and the rally continued. The place was going crazy.
    That’s how you honor the 50 millionth fan moment. Win the game! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • djloo27 said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:17 pm

      “Money For Nothing” shoud’ve been Giggles walk-up song…

      • zumiee said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:23 pm

        Ah, good one. ๐Ÿ™‚

        Here’s how to play that guitar intro, by the way:

      • alleykat69 said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:39 pm

        The perfect Post Loo!
        I’m still busting a gut!

  19. zumiee said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    I checked out the ever-growing number of McCovey Cove walkway monuments, and saw a few new ones, including Ishi hitting the Pennant-winner.

  20. zumiee said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:11 pm

    Butt-hurt Dodger fans can relax; Kershaw got named to the All-Star game because Scherzer is pitching today. Scherzer is still an All-Star obviously; he can go and enjoy the festivities.

  21. snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    Per Marty Lurie, Bochy said this morning that Hudson will join the rotation right after the AS break. So, the logical conclusion is that Voggy is coming off, as there’s no talk of a 6-man rotation. To me, Huddy and Voggy are pretty much the same. One game on, the next game or two out early, hammered. I’d figure Huddy is going to run out of gas after another 5 or 6 starts, right before the stretch run. Definitely going to be some movement in this pitching staff the next few weeks…

  22. snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:22 pm

    So far with Miami today, McDP is 1-4 with a double and 2 RBIs, plus he’s made an error…

  23. djloo27 said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:43 pm

    When Lincecum returns from the DL, does he take over for Machi?

    • snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:00 pm

      I think he takes over Petit’s role, meaning hardly ever pitches. Petit will pitch more. IMO Petit has been weirdly mishandled this season. How can a guy get in a groove when he hardly every pitches…

      • chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 6:51 pm

        Either long-relief, or he could come in and give them two innings…say the 7th and 8th…

  24. djloo27 said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    Streakiness aside, Duffy’s emergence is shocking…

  25. zumiee said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:51 pm

    I think the biggest misconception about Duffy is that he’s a small guy. He looks kind of small on TV, because of his thin-ness; but he’s pretty tall, and has kind of a wrangly, raw-boned build. He’s stronger than he looks.

    • djloo27 said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:01 pm

      A little like Robin Yount, maybe?

      • zumiee said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:05 pm

        Yeah, that’s a good example, and in general how major leaguers were thinner back in those days. The young Ted Williams looked like a stick.

  26. zumiee said, on July 12, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    Nice play by Adrianza, last night, extending the double-play into a rundown, so another run could score.
    He looked over-matched at the plate against the Phillies reliever, who had a 97 MPH fastball; but Adrianza did eventually put the ball in play, giving Howard a difficult fielding play. One of the biggest challenges of bench players, like Adrianza, is that, often, they’re having to pinch-hit against nasty relief pitching.

  27. snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    I’d like to see Petit tried at more of a short stint role, see if he can get in a groove. Let him take more of a Romo role, Petit can get guys out from both sides of the plate. DL Romo to see if his knee can get better. Or, trade him…

  28. zumiee said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    When Krukow goes into his long list of each pitch that a pitcher has, I’m guessing most viewers just tune it out. It’s a mesmerizing piece of baseball poetry.
    “He’s got a 4-seamer with cut on it, his sinker has some run on it, he has a back-door slider against lefties, and a change with late movement vs. righthanders” and on and on.

    • alleykat69 said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:16 pm

      And of course if the pitcher’s “Arm Slot” is out of whack he will get hit hard..

      • snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:18 pm

        Well sure, don’t friggin’ forget those “mechanics”…

  29. snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:11 pm

    My top dudes for the first half:

    1. Heston. We’re screwed without his contribution.
    2. Crawford. Rounding into a perennial all star at SS, in the field and at the plate.
    3. Duffy. Found gold. Unimaginable suckage if McDP were the 3rd sacker for the entire first half.
    4. Aoki. Brings energy.

    My top disappointments:
    1. Pagan. But, he’s hurt, though nobody really says what’s wrong with his knee and how to fix it. Or, his back.
    2. Did I say Pagan?
    3. Belt. Inconsistent is the word.

    1. Blanco. Better at the plate than expected with Aoki and Pence out. He even got a couple of bunt hits…

  30. alleykat69 said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:13 pm

    I’ll take a Robin Yount career out of Matt Duffy, just like a Wade Boggs career for my Joe Panik comparison. Panik’s gonna win a batting title or 2 with his approach to hitting never giving up AB’s like Boggs use to.
    Just my take but he’s a damm good hitter..

  31. Flavor said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:13 pm

    I’ve grown so tired of listening to Krukow drone on and on about “what a pitcher has.” He rattles off all these pitches he’s certain the pitcher has in his repertoire, it’s just all elevator music at this point.

  32. alleykat69 said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    Krukow just lives off his 1986 laurels (20-9 season) otherwise he would of been under .500 for his career.
    Give any pitcher one 20 game season and they think their right up their with Koufax, Gibson,Carlton,Marichal etc etc..

  33. Flavor said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    Another pet peeve I have about the broadcasters: their incessant yammering about *ownage being ownage*. The hitter could be 4 for 8 and they’re tripping over themselves to squawk about *ownage*. I don’t put a lick of credibility to bvp unless it’s over 25-30 at bats. Even then….
    There are just too many variables you don’t know—was the pitcher sick that day? Was his sinker just not working? Bad luck? The list goes on and on.
    Kuip couldn’t wait to yell out *ownage is ownage* after Posey banged that single up the middle and yet he was strangely quiet when the next *ownage* batter grounded into a double play……lqtm

    • snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:34 pm

      Posey is the Golden Boy, without fail. He can do no wrong with Kruk & Kuip; a single is a nearly a hall of fame event. Buster is the team’s best player, but really, the butt-kissing the announcers do for Buster is frequently roll-your-eyes over the top…

  34. willedav said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:41 pm

    Snarkk, watching Posey make that play, I agree with you he could probably play 3b.
    But the way Duffy and Belt are going, I hope he stays where he is as long as possible.

    And as Susac Ks vs. a RHP, I can’t see moving either Belt or Duffy (to accommodate Posey) out of LU making Giants a better team.

    • snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:47 pm

      Buster has the arm for 3b, which is IMO the first requirement for that position. Duffy’s arm is adequate for 3d, it might get better. I just think Duffy can play pretty much anywhere, including OF. I’m OK with Susac getting 500 ABs in MLB, and seeing where he is after that. He’s got a little bit of pop for a catcher. Right now, if Susac went down, who would be brought in to back up? — Quiroz?. Sheez, we played a whole season with El Presidente and Stewy doing the catching when Posey went down. Susac is better than those dudes…

      • willedav said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:54 pm

        I’m sure he needs at least arthro on a knee or two, maybe more.
        Once they go in, who knows what else they might find is wrong?
        I wouldn’t count chickens before they are hatched on him playing 100.

  35. snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    Flemming on Pagan, and looking forward to Pagan having the AS break to rest up:

    “He’s been beat up, really been through a lot of discomfort.”
    Of course, no details on what that means…

    • willedav said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:56 pm

      sorry Snarkk–Pagan comment should have went here. Seems even announcers know he’s messed up and not near 100%. Of course, nothing being officially said by team/medical staff.

      • snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:59 pm

        I followed, no prob. It just cheeses me off that announcers are willing to go only so far to excuse poor performance due to injury, but not willing to say what’s wrong…

  36. snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    Zobrist had a meniscus torn, the A’s fixed it, and he was back raking in about 6 weeks. If Pagan has something similar, they could fix it and get him back. Sad sacking around all season with a bum leg isn’t my idea of efficient use of your personnel. If we only knew what’s really wrong with him…

  37. willedav said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    Wow and there goes susac–I got your ownage right here.

  38. xoot said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    Quiroz isn’t likely to do that very often.

    • chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 6:34 pm

      Just one reason that Susac will be the Giants next full-time catcher. I say it happens within a year…

  39. Carstie Clausen said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    Susac attack. That’s the 3-run homer half the Flap was yammering for.

  40. snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    Yep, on cue, I said Susac has pop, and there it is.
    Nothing like a 3-run shot to make the game a little sweeter!…

  41. Lisle Ellis said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    The first 3 run homer of the year for us?

  42. snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    There’s the 4 runs needed to guarantee victory. Well, if Zito were out there…

  43. pawliekokonuts said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    Hi. Been consumed with my Mom move, but all good. Heard from Blade3 on the road. We did not meet; he turned left and headed west, tired and pining for his mountain pines and his own bed. Moses looking good. Duffman too. Susac. Gigantes. Decent catch by Pagan.

  44. James said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    The 3-run homer stat is another red herring. About 10% of all HRs are 3 run shots, while only 2% are grand slams. SF has 71 HRS, with 5 grand slams and 2 three-run bombs.

  45. alleykat69 said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:37 pm

    Pretty good pct of Grandslams 5 in 71 Hr’s has to be one of the best in baseball?

  46. xoot said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:37 pm

    I hear Tyler Beede pitched a shut out inning in the Futures game. His rise from San Jose continues

  47. alleykat69 said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:44 pm

    Geez Kuip,
    Your analysis that every Flapper knew already about our 1st half surprises of Heston&Duffy only took you 80+games to jump on board, your killing me..

  48. alleykat69 said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    Another nice outing by our #2 pitcher “Bright Eyes”!
    My only fear the Giants scale him back ,due that he hasn’t pitched a full season, and don’t want to burn the kid out, but we could suffer the consequences if others don’t step up or get re injured..

  49. pawliekokonuts said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    Talk about surprises: Osich. I don’t follow our minor leaguers, as, say, Twin does, but he has been a real plus. Sure, his weaknesses will become known, but he’s been a pleasant addition. As for weaknesses becoming known, don’t you think with video archives and digital technology it’s harder these days for both rookie pitchers and catchers to succeed? It’s easier and quicker to get a line on someone. After my daughter’s HS graduation, I chatted about this with George Brown, a former St. John’s pitcher who is friends with Joe Panik. He said, yeah, you try to spot a “tell.” Just as in poker.

  50. zumiee said, on July 12, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    I totally don’t want the DH in the NL, but a relief pitcher just standing there and taking 3 strikes in order to not get injured is not a ringing endorsement for pitchers batting.

    • chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 6:32 pm

      Pitchers swinging a bat is just one small part of having a pitcher hit…there is all the strategy that goes with making pitching changes in the NL that are lost in the AL. Screw the DL…it is bastardized baseball…you take the field…you swing a damned bat.

  51. zumiee said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    Nice outing from Osich.

  52. blade3colorado said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    Side bar – I’m spending the night in this backwater burg called Effingham, Indiana . . . Imagine your birth certificate having that as a birthplace. So many good jokes here and dunno where to start. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Flavor said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:30 pm

      what are you paying for the room?

      • blade3colorado said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:34 pm

        Way too much Flavor . . . $76 and change for a Super 8. Actually, this is a brand new hotel and it is quite nice. I’ve seen Marriott’s that were far worse.

      • Lisle Ellis said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:40 pm

        Too effin much! … sorry couldn’t resist.

      • Flavor said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:41 pm

        did you do any airbnb?

      • pawliekokonuts said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:55 pm

        my daughter FaceTimed from Tel Aviv this morning; she and like 8 or 9 other people at a lovely apt for a week, for a wedding, via airbnb; something like $300 each for the week

      • Flavor said, on July 12, 2015 at 4:54 pm

        airbnb seems to be the way most of my friends travel these days. THat’s why I asked Blade, I’ve never heard him use it

    • blade3colorado said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:31 pm

      Another side bar – This place is the home of the largest cross in the world.

  53. Flavor said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    Casilla. Jesus.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:52 pm

      he pitched well, especially the first two strikeouts on curves….good save

  54. Bozo said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    Casilla, the pride of Effingham, Indiana. finishes er off.
    Have a happy AS break y’all.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:34 pm

      You too clown!

  55. Flavor said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:40 pm

    • pawliekokonuts said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:47 pm

      pretty funky i measn oh shit funny

      • pawliekokonuts said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:51 pm

        mean, not measn

    • wilcojoe said, on July 12, 2015 at 4:38 pm

      Can they use this as an excuse to fire her?

  56. pawliekokonuts said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:49 pm

    travel well, Blade; sent you an email; my night was not bad at all, not bad at all

    • pawliekokonuts said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:50 pm

      sorry we could not meet here or in Cuse, or Philly; till next time……how is Aunt Mary, btw

      • blade3colorado said, on July 12, 2015 at 4:37 pm

        Hey Pawlie . . . Glad that worked out with Michelle. Also, I’m sending prayers and good vibes your way regarding your mom’s move. I know this is stressful. Aunt Mary is doing well. She sold one of her Victorians in San Francisco, so now she is not only “house rich,” but also “cash rich” as well. By the by, her son Marc, who has done missionary work in the Philippines and India, lives in Newtown Square, the township near Philly. He now works with black and hispanic youth in the Philly neighborhoods. He was a very gracious host while I stayed with him last week.

  57. pawliekokonuts said, on July 12, 2015 at 3:53 pm

    dang it; Dodgers won

  58. zumiee said, on July 12, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    And now the ridiculously long All-Star break. No games until Friday.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 12, 2015 at 4:38 pm

      umm . . . except for the Cards and Pirates game this evening. ๐Ÿ™‚

  59. chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    Well, that is what the doctor ordered. I said Friday night we needed to get a little win streak going, and shazam! Yeah, against the lowly Phils…but WTF…a win is a win is a win.

    Susac with the difference maker and nailing a runner trying to steal. I know a few of you Flappers are not high on the kid, but mark my words…IMO he will be the starter within a year. Posey is looking good at 1B. He had a nice play to start a DP, and is definitely looking more comfortable there all the time.

    To me the BP is the major weak-link right now. As I said earlier, Casilla and Romo have got to get consistent, or they need to go get a closer. I say get a closer and add Parra. If they did that, I would have a lot of confidence on the team’s ability to make some noise rest of the way.

  60. twinfan1 said, on July 12, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    Now that I’ve replaced Merna’s job jar with a ” No Can Do” jar, I’m ready for the break. The vittles are in, the DVR is chock-a-block with horror and mayhem, and with 8 pitchers going on Tuesday it will be tough for Bochy to leave one of them in too long.

    Is meeting a stranger at a ballgame sort of like Match.Com? What if he/she has back hair coming out of their shirt? Do you excuse yourself and run?

    Anyway, a nice first “half”, IMO. The curse is soon to be lifted.

    • chipower9 said, on July 12, 2015 at 6:15 pm

      Too funny Twin (excuse yourself and run). Yep….that would have been my tactic.

      Yes…I am feeling good about the season to date. I am thinking it is time to make it “Four in Six!” Don’t Stop Believin’!

    • twinfan1 said, on July 12, 2015 at 6:24 pm

      A side note- as I might have said, I started building PC’s again. Had a helper for awhile but now I’m on my own Hey, even doing it one-handed, they actually work. Weird buyers out there now. Listed a used system for EIGHTY-FIVE bucks and a guy asked if I’d take payments. A woman won one of my auctions and asked how much she should pay. I told her that I had sent an invoice and she asked me what an invoice was..

      • pawliekokonuts said, on July 12, 2015 at 7:19 pm

        are these orders all from Greece?

      • snarkk said, on July 12, 2015 at 10:56 pm

        We’re doing a major house clean and stuff toss away project. I put stuff on Craigslist. One was an old kids bike seat, price was $20. One woman emailed and asked if I would “deliver it” to her in Santa Clara. I laughed out loud. WTF….

      • twinfan1 said, on July 13, 2015 at 7:13 am

        I hadn’t been selling on EBay for 6 years or so. Then I was selling very high end PCs- $1,000 to $5,000 and more. Actually made a few bucks. Now it’s crazy- there are more than 90 thousand computers listed including tablets and notebooks. Lots of Chinese sellers now. They sell at prices that we can’t match. Many sellers do it anyway, taking a loss and hoping the buyer will go to their storefront.
        Anyway,buyers think they can get stuff at well below cost. A guy has Emailed me for days wanting to buy an $800.00 PC for 150 bucks.
        Your experience on Craig’s List was pretty much the same shit- something for nothing.
        Really looking forward to the ASG, for a change. Really stoked about Crawdad and Panik being there. One of their trademark unbelievable DPs would be very cool.

      • chipower9 said, on July 13, 2015 at 8:09 am

        All of these comments are hilarious. I have had similar experiences selling stuff on Craigslist or eBay. It all really makes me question the chances for the human race.

  61. willedav said, on July 12, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    Susac HR was nice but…coming into the game he was 2 for 26 and batting .186 on the season vs. RHP. The OPS was under .600 vs. RHP. He rakes LHP, esp as spot start guy.
    He starts full time then 2 out of 3 games that is what he is facing, RHP. Can you live with full time C batting 8th and hitting .220?
    Or .236 which is where he was at as game started?

    That’s all I’m saying. I don’t dislike the kid but the splits are pretty alarming, with a lot of Ks.
    You have a C, a 1b and a 3b already in place. I’m just against moving them around to give Susac a full time job, esp with Aoki about ready to rejoin the team shortly after AS break.
    I’d go with what you have and slide Susac in there once or twice a week, tops, and use him as RH pop off bench.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 12, 2015 at 7:28 pm

      โ€œFrom little acorns mighty oaks do growโ€ ~ American Proverb

      • chipower9 said, on July 13, 2015 at 8:11 am

        Fuck, the kid has less than 200 MLB ABs. Not everyone comes into the league hitting .300 against both righties and lefties.

  62. Flavor said, on July 13, 2015 at 7:49 am

    and then there was new…..

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