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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 17, 2015

Managed to sleep in till 3:00 this morning. Looks like it rained like hell last night but the course is drying out and we’ve got golf! Who’s with me on starting an Open Blog?

But for those who don’t give a shit about this, we have baseball again. Cain in the desert. I’d like to think we could hit this Ray-guy. Ray Guy. Hell of a punter.

Now, back to my golf……

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  1. djloo27 said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:32 pm

    Why wouldn’t Blanco expand his strike zone with Vogey on deck? He let 2 very hittable pitches go by…

  2. unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:32 pm

    Time for a Vogie bomb

  3. unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:33 pm

    That works too

  4. zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:33 pm

    Great bunt!!

  5. unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:35 pm

    Short armed that throw. Thanks AZ. Get a frigging hit now

  6. xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:35 pm

    shit happens in late innings; good shit, so far

  7. zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:35 pm

    We’ll take it!

  8. unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:36 pm

    Jeeesus wtf?

  9. djloo27 said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:38 pm

    I just had breakfast.

  10. unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:38 pm

    Only took 2 errors to score. Let’s hope goldshit doesn’t tie it with one swing.

  11. Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:46 pm

    I don’t know whether to cry or puke … I’ll cry in my puke or pure in my tears … this team is like a nasty symbiotic parasite … Besides the nice timely lead off hits of the past few innings, only clutch came from Voggy … Voggy for fucks sake! Then we cannot score even one run without them fucking up and handing it too us. Once again: WTF?

  12. djloo27 said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:46 pm

    Panik made that look easier than it was…

  13. zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:46 pm

    Huge play!

  14. xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    Panik is excellent and getting better every inning he plays. amazing

  15. unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:48 pm

    Brain fart for goldshit.

  16. unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:50 pm

    Fuck nuggets. 0-2 to that? Will this never end?

  17. xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    yes yes yes!

  18. zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:53 pm

    This game was an epic journey. Nice to get the win.

  19. djloo27 said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:53 pm

    Great win, I guess.
    Goodnight fellow mental patients…

  20. unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:55 pm

    Piece of cake!

    Looks like all the pen is greased up and ready. Wonder how long before they DL Machi.

  21. Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:58 pm

    … yay … a win … Ugh … fuckin brutal

    • zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 12:07 am

      Winning ugly….but winning. πŸ™‚

      • Lisle Ellis said, on July 18, 2015 at 12:58 am

        You’re right Zum: a win is a win is a win … we finally beat these fuckers … It took a seeming Herculean effort on our part and their dumb fuck ups, but we did it … Maybe this is a sign that we can turn the corner and start beating these chump teams.

  22. eddacker said, on July 18, 2015 at 1:04 am

    Difficult to watch for the first 5 inning and then . . pretty good I’d say.
    Seems this Belt player is a slow starter.

    The gigantic genius dome has a few more gray hairs today.
    Once again the gmen prove they can grind out wins, but to have to win like this over 70 games?

    Not many Giants in Phoenix will be watching the Open today. To bad, a beautiful course.

  23. wilcojoe said, on July 18, 2015 at 7:03 am

    Reading last nights posts I almost expected one of you to mention around the 11th inning that Flav was just waking up to watch The Open.

    • Lisle Ellis said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:26 am

      We were way too shell shocked after that game for any kind of cognition.

  24. blade3colorado said, on July 18, 2015 at 7:05 am

    Nice win.

    • snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 9:30 am

      I went to bed figuring thy if u blow 2 chances to score in xtra innings, ur doomed. But, this team confounds. Looks like they found a way to win like last years playoffs — make the other team hand u the win. Maybe Voggy can find his niche in the Pen…

  25. Bozo said, on July 18, 2015 at 7:30 am

    I’ll admit it, I bailed when they brought Machi in. It was about midnight, so I wouldn’t have made it to the 12th anyway. Good grinder win.

  26. willedav said, on July 18, 2015 at 8:27 am

    Saw last half of it, great comeback, epic battle. Pen except for Machi was great and DBax finally wilted.

    Giants now have 7 guys with OPS of over .800, amazing stat I didn’t think possible. They continue to score runs without 30 HR guys, including Posey. It’s park factor. Put this LU in AZ they would terrorize the NL. OPS is an important stat, not just another number some SABR geek dreamed up. And despite how awful he looked last night, Belt is right up there for slugging OB and OPS with Posey Pence et al.

    Numbers I posted earlier are just an indication that most hitters really are inconsistent and streaky, not just Belt. Look at almost entire LU from last season—remember being 42-21 and then what happened after that? I distinctly recall threads entitled “POS offense”.
    Pence Sando Posey Morse Crawford, all of them had great months and then some down ones. Pence had a fine season but was awful in sept. to tune of .190. Posey was great in Sept. and then did little in post season.

    Blanco hit .300 second half, but .220 in first half so he winds up at .260. That’s baseball, and some guys are streakier than others.
    Nice to see Giants finally get back at AZ. Lot of crummy teams up soon, time to tcb.

  27. willedav said, on July 18, 2015 at 8:56 am

    Gotta head off to work but here are few brief examples of streakiness:

    Posey, in April hit .263. July, .389 so far. season avg. 313. He has had solid months but really hot right now.

    Crawford hit .235 in April, .217 in june, .244 so far july…May .340. May he had 23 rbis, exact same # as April and June combined. Good game last night, along with 2 stellar D plays to cut down RISP.

    Duffy, OPS in May .778, June .953, July .700. BA has been consistent once he got regular PT, but power has fluctuated. 5 HRs 15 XBH in June alone.

    I’m just saying, streaks happen, good and bad, to a lot of hitters.

  28. Macdog said, on July 18, 2015 at 9:08 am

    I sort of pride myself here on being able to stay up for the games, no matter how late they go. But I’m in Orlando and my daughter had an early-morning soccer game today, so I just couldn’t make it through last night’s marathon, finally conking out at about mid-8th. Nonetheless, a great comeback win and a good post-break start. From what I could tell from the write-ups, Craw had a very good game in the field and Pagan not quite so much. And good to see Vogey getting the win in relief.

  29. snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 9:32 am

    Nice comeback..

  30. blade3colorado said, on July 18, 2015 at 9:49 am

    Snarkk, in regard to your earlier message (flip side of this thread) . . . I hit the sack too, so I was pleasantly surprised this morning that they pulled it out. Dunno about Voggy . . . Agree, I hope he can make hay in the bullpen. Our problem is that we have too many #5 pitchers that once in a blue moon show they are #2 or 3. Go figure. I think it paralyzes our front office, i.e., they think the staff as is can persevere. Me? I think they are all #5s. πŸ™‚

    Consequently, I don’t think relying on Bum and Heston will work in the long run. That being said, I am still basking about this team, as I was in the preseason and spring training; and they will surprise me when I least expect it.

    • snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:40 am

      Bum & Heston – the new Big Unit & Schilling?…

  31. Carstie Clausen said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:06 am

    Giants won on two factors ~ defense and bullpen. Bochy went balls to the walls using up his pen but it ultimately worked out. Only untouchable the Snakes put on the mound was Brad Ziegler. His two innings matched those of Vogelsong. I’ll take that. Vogie is more stretched out from his starting role and likely is not particularly worn down by a 2 inning effort. Ziegler is their #1 go-to guy to hold or to stay in the game. He may not be available tonight and is slightly iffy for Sunday.

    • snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:41 am

      Yeah, Stix.
      Reading the game story, the Gyros won this one like a playoff game last year. Hang on until the other team hands you the game. SF seems to make that work…

  32. ewisco said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:54 am

    2010 torture redux?

  33. blade3colorado said, on July 18, 2015 at 11:04 am

    Sign of East coast disrespect or typo?

    ESPN article about last nights game . . . “This story has been corrected to show the first name for Crawford is Brandon, not Carl.”

    • snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 11:14 am

      They were asleep at the keyboard.
      ESPN gets more and more useless (yes, that’s possible) as the years go by…

    • djloo27 said, on July 18, 2015 at 11:22 am

      Hey Blade, your Bank of America forecast from a few months ago is lookin’ awful good.
      Nice job on that…

      • blade3colorado said, on July 18, 2015 at 11:49 am

        Loo, thank you much . . . Contact me at blade3colorado@yahoo.com and I will tell you how much (a lot). πŸ™‚

        Convergence of events ONLY means the profits are barely just beginning . . . For example, all of this will occur in the next 12 months: rate hike by the Fed NLT then the end of this year (just this alone will result in B of A making $3.9 billion per quarter); more stability in Greece; all banks (especially B of A) having litigation/fines from DOJ in the rear view mirror; bank branch and ATM (job) reduction – where they are switching to mobile banking; and, legacy bad mortgage assets being eliminated.

        Consequently, the Financial sector is going to be unbelievably big in the next few months. B of A is especially interesting to me, because it has lagged behind the other big 5 banks; and more important, the appealing low entry point has allowed me to accumulated thousands of shares. Just this week (as you are aware), B of A was up over 7% and approx. 10-12% in the last 2 weeks.

        By the by, stay out of Oil. Why? This new Iran/West Nuclear treaty will allow the Iranians to flood the market with their oil when the sanctions are lifted. As a result, gasoline may go down to 2 bucks a gallon. You heard it here first.

      • wilcojoe said, on July 18, 2015 at 12:04 pm

        Not to mention Mother Merill has had a record year in recruiting some of the nations top advisors from their wirehouse peers.

  34. snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 11:53 am

    Anybody know exactly how long they can keep Lincecum on the DL before they have to make some kind of move with him. I know he’s on the 15 day, but that doesn’t really mean 15. But, at some point, you have to put him on the 60-day or do something, right?…

  35. snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 11:58 am

    Anybody ever seen this? I thought it was quite interesting.

    In the event that an incident occurs where at least five players from the same MLB club are killed, dismembered, and/or permanently disabled, MLB has a “Rehabilitation Plan” in place under Rule 29 that includes financial support and a “Restocking Draft” for the stricken club (known as the “Disabled Club”). The plan has existed in basically the same form since 1965, so the method for allocating talent to the affected team essentially follows the mechanism used to distribute players to MLB expansion teams in 1960-61.

    Under this plan, after a reasonable period of mourning, and presuming that the MLB Commissioner, the MLBPA, and the other 29 clubs jointly agree that the Disabled Club’s season should continue, each of the other 29 clubs will be required to contribute five players from its MLB Active List (25-man roster) into the Restocking Draft pool, including one pitcher, one infielder, one outfielder, and one catcher (but only if the club has at least three catchers on its 25-man roster), plus one additional player regardless of position (or two additional players regardless of position if the club does not have three catchers on its 25-man roster).

    From the Restocking Draft pool, the Disabled Club will be permitted to select replacements for the players lost in the disaster.


    • snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 11:59 am

      Not to be maudlin, but I’m wondering if the Giants can declare their bench the equivalent of a disaster…

      • djloo27 said, on July 18, 2015 at 12:03 pm

        Bouton mentioned it in Ball Four. The designated players were referred to as the “Ghoul Pool”…

  36. wilcojoe said, on July 18, 2015 at 12:06 pm

    FYI: The MLB Extra Innings package is doing their yearly midsseason free preview this week.

  37. snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    Cain since off DL: 16 innings, 18 hits, 9 runs. if Lincecum ran up those stats, he’d be getting torched by lots of fans. Cain gets a shrug…

    • djloo27 said, on July 18, 2015 at 2:48 pm

      Cain’s got the injury excuse for now.
      Lincecum will always be far more beloved by Giant fans, wouldn’t you say?

  38. snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    Speaking of the Open. I was at the final two rounds of the ’83 Open at Birkdale, near Liverpool. Last of the 5 that Watson won. Rentet a room in a house about 2 miles from the course. I think it was the Friday night a buddy and I were at a pub in southport, not far from the course. There were some Euro golfed in there that had missed the cut, some still in it, all getting S-faced. Really a fun place, all golf talk with fans and loads of bitter. I think Sandy Lyle, the Brit hope at the time, was one of them getting his beer on. I think he went on to either drop out or do poorly that weekend. It’s a good memory, through the fog of time. Crazy course, big hills, scrub brush, and really dry — except for the beer…

  39. snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 3:12 pm

    I’m at the Altamont brewery in Livrmore doing a tasting flight and watching the dog hairs on a bigs teen. Friggin Kershaw is mowing down the Caps. It’s crazy in here – a small bus load of 25 year old chicks on a birthday crawl just rolled in. Hella Hoppy at 9% abc. The bar server chick is qualified to be BBOTD chick Daisy. Holy smokes …

    • djloo27 said, on July 18, 2015 at 3:21 pm

      Watch yourself, pal. The Hell’s Angels handle all security at Altamont…

      • snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 3:37 pm

        Yeah, if the brewmaster looks like Jagger, I’m getting the hell outta here…

    • snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 3:39 pm

      Uh, Nats, not Caps. But, Kershaw has a helluva slap shot,..

  40. zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    In today’s episode of Trump’s Trainwreck:

    “Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump criticized Sen. John McCain’s military record at a conservative forum Saturday, saying the party’s 2008 nominee and former prisoner of war was a “war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
    The comment drew some boos from some in the audience β€” and quick condemnation from rivals who have been waiting for such an opening to rein in the outspoken reality television personality. Trump has surged in polls recently, frustrating many in his party concerned that he has hijacked the 2016 Republican primary and damaged the GOP brand.
    Trump and McCain traded barbs earlier this week. McCain said Trump’s controversial comments about immigrants had “fired up the crazies” at a rally in Phoenix. Trump retorted that the Arizona Republican was “a dummy” who graduated at the bottom of his class at the U.S. Naval Academy.”

    • zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 4:14 pm

      • blade3colorado said, on July 18, 2015 at 5:23 pm

        My sentiments exactly. I can’t wait until the Fox debate next month. Best comedy EVER.

    • snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 6:58 pm

      How can the GOP brand be “damaged” more than it is?
      Well, there are more confederate flag waving opportunities, I suppose…

  41. zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 4:44 pm

    I posted a Game-time Thread. Hope no one minds.

  42. chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    Holy shit…just turned-on the pre-game and saw they won last night in extras…Vogey with the win.

    Gail and I saw Willie Nelson and Alison Krauss last night. I last checked the score in the 5th inning last night…Giants down 4-2. Nice way to start the second half. Let’s keep the good mojo rolling Peavy and boys.

    1. Angel Pagan (S) CF

    2. Joe Panik (L) 2B

    3. Matt Duffy (R) 3B

    4. Buster Posey (R) 1B

    5. Hunter Pence (R) RF

    6. Brandon Crawford (L) SS

    7. Brandon Belt (L) LF

    8. Andrew Susac (R) C

    9. Jake Peavy (R) P (0-4, 4.71 ERA)

    Four in Six! Why Not…

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