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Game-time Thread: Takin’ on the Snakes again

Posted in Uncategorized by zumiee on July 18, 2015

Panik, Duffy, and Pence put on a hitting clinic last night. Let’s keep it up.

Speaking of Pence…. 🙂


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  1. chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    LMAO on the 2021 picture of Pence. Very good, Craig.

    And holy shit…just turned-on the pre-game and saw they won last night in extras…Vogey with the win.

    Gail and I saw Willie Nelson and Alison Krauss last night. I last checked the score in the 5th inning last night…Giants down 4-2. Nice way to start the second half. Let’s keep the good mojo rolling Peavy and boys.

    1. Angel Pagan (S) CF

    2. Joe Panik (L) 2B

    3. Matt Duffy (R) 3B

    4. Buster Posey (R) 1B

    5. Hunter Pence (R) RF

    6. Brandon Crawford (L) SS

    7. Brandon Belt (L) LF

    8. Andrew Susac (R) C

    9. Jake Peavy (R) P (0-4, 4.71 ERA)

    Four in Six! Why Not…

    • zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 4:55 pm

      I’m a huge Alison Krauss fan; Willie, I’m not as familiar with.

      Vogey pitched two solid innings, and had a big contribution to the winning run with a bunt that turned into a base-hit.

      • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 5:08 pm

        Zume – Alison Krauss’s band was superb. Every musician was top shelf, and their harmonies were unreal. The guitarist (check out my post on FB for picts) did the vocal parts for George Clooney in Oh Brother Where Art Thou. And Jerry Douglas, her dobro player has played with damned near everyone. He is certainly one of the bests.

        Willie Nelson was superb…the man is an icon. Great show!

        We next see Charlie Musslewhite Ruthie Foster, and then a couple of weeks later see one of my favorite bands…The Devil Makes Three. We have concerts stacked-up through early 2016.

    • Lisle Ellis said, on July 18, 2015 at 5:14 pm

      Yeah, missed you last nite but I was in good company with a few of the vets, so that helped keep me calm. But boy, that was a rough nite … “torture redux” as someone said earlier. There was a point around the middle of the game that I noticed there has been no posts for over an hour. It freaked me out a bit! … my mind was racing, and started to get paranoid, but that’s just the way I am … Then Unca C checked in from his BART commute and all was good again.

      • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 5:28 pm

        LMAO on the “no posts for over an hour.”Oh no, the feds have shut-down the Flap! Flap Universe, Unite!

  2. zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    The Dodgers lost their resumed game today, and then won the regularly scheduled game. The Giants can pick up a half game with a win.
    The race for the 2nd Wild Card spot is real tight. Pittsburgh seems determined to run away with the 1st Wild Card spot.

    • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 5:31 pm

      There is still a LOT of ball left to play, Zumiee. Don’t make yourself crazy spinning on this stuff. The Cubs also have a cake-walk first 20 games or so coming out of the break, bastards. (Actually, I have always had a soft-spot for the Cubbies…my 2nd favorite NL team.)

      • Lisle Ellis said, on July 18, 2015 at 5:57 pm

        Too late Chi, we are already nuts … case in point, Loo signed off @ 11:53 last night with “Good night fellow mental patients”.

      • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 6:03 pm

        Yep…bunch of crazy mothers on here…it is a wonderful thing!

  3. chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    Let’s make that 2 on the scoreboard a bit more crooked!

  4. Bozo said, on July 18, 2015 at 6:01 pm


  5. chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 6:02 pm

    Mudbug, adding on! Fuck yeah!

  6. Bozo said, on July 18, 2015 at 6:20 pm

    Susac, a rumbling and tumbling.

  7. Bozo said, on July 18, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    And, the hits just coming.

  8. chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    I like this continual evoution of the crooked numbers by our boys.

  9. Lurker John said, on July 18, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    The Giants sure do love hitting in AZ. Seems like it’s been that way for years. 7 runs and 11 hits through 3. I’ll take it.

  10. zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    Lester has a no-hitter going in the 8th vs. the Braves.

  11. zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 6:41 pm

    Susac become yet another major leaguer to hurt himself sliding in head-first.

  12. zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    Sabean: “How’s the concussion symptoms doing, Hector?”
    Hector Sanchez: “Who’s Hector?”
    Sabean: “You’re good to go. Report to the big club tomorrow.”

    • Bozo said, on July 18, 2015 at 6:51 pm

      Maybe we will see Ben Turner? The dude made the jump from San Jose to Sacramento this year. I say, give that kid the full cup of coffee.

      • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:04 pm

        Oh hell yes. I would so much like to see Turner over Hector…

  13. alleykat69 said, on July 18, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    Just back from an beautiful day on the coast playing golf at Seascape Golf course in Aptos.
    After seeing the evolution of Hunter Pence, which is awesome Craig, the 2021 Pence, reminded me of the Geico dude banging into golf carts at the 1st Tee and saying:”So we’re playing from the tips today?”

  14. zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 7:47 pm

    It’s been said at the Flap before, that there’s no way Peavy should ever begin a 7th inning. The chances that would work out OK are very small.

    • snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 7:55 pm

      No kidding. Bochy playing without a net sending Peavy out in the 7th. 6+ innings, 4 runs, 2 HRs given up. Flemming was classic. After that last dinger from a guy who hadn’t hit one yet all year, he says as Peavy leaves: “Overall, Peavy pitched well…”. I guess, if you’ve got 7 runs to play with…

  15. zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 7:52 pm

    Nice work from Strickland.

    • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:07 pm

      I remember all the doom-sayers re: Strickland last year (with all the HRs he gave up). I told folks he has nasty stuff and has yet to develop his secondary pitches (which he has, now). I said to give him an off-season with Rags and crew, and the kid will be fine. He is on his way. I still think he is our future closer.

  16. unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2015 at 8:02 pm

    Yeah we’re runnng out of bodies behind the plate. Maybe we can get Panda back to catch.

  17. unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    Have a night, Buster…

  18. alleykat69 said, on July 18, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    Nothing ticks off a hitter more then a feeble swing comebacker to the pitcher to start a DP..

  19. xoot said, on July 18, 2015 at 8:37 pm

    Brandon “Called Third Strike” Belt–isn’t there a stat on that? Or do his called third strikes just for some reason seer deeply into the memory, creating the illusion that it happens all the fuckin time?

    • zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 8:40 pm

      Maybe it’s the facial expression. The look of disbelief at the injustice. And then the slow walk back to the dugout as he ponders the unfairness of a universe with flawed umpires.

      • xoot said, on July 18, 2015 at 9:00 pm

        well, yeah, sometimes. Other times, I seem to recall a look of absolute belief, knowing he’d fucked up taking the pitch. Add em all up and I think the total is pretty high.

    • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:09 pm

      Yep. That is one area, along with his defense, in which he is consistent. Hey James…what was that about consistency? I forgot already (sucks getting old).

  20. zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    A Romo AB. That was a rarity. It seemed really strange to see for some reason.

  21. Bozo said, on July 18, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    Come on Romo, close this shit out.

  22. Macdog said, on July 18, 2015 at 8:49 pm


  23. zumiee said, on July 18, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    Nice solid win. Never allowed the D-Backs to get too close.

  24. Bozo said, on July 18, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    That’s a win, the easier way.

  25. snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    Amazing how this squad hits on the road in the hitter’s parks, and just can’t hit at home…

    • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:11 pm

      Is that why they refer to our yard as a “Pitcher’s Park?” I could give a rat’s ass as long as they punch their ticket to the post-season dance. We all know that if that happens…anything can happen. Anything, as in, say…FOUR in SIX. Why not…

  26. snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    Jon Miller actually said Pagan has a bone bruise in his left knee from running into the wall several weeks ago. Zumiee I think said something like that last week, so this is confirmation…

  27. chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    My son and his family were over and we were BBQing…I missed the prognosis on Susac. What’s the story?

  28. chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    Just read-up on Susac…sprained right thumb…x-rays negative.Out 7-10 days…

    I am with the Clown on this one…Ben Turner….COME ON DOWN…we’ve got a cup of coffee for ya, kid.

    • snarkk said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:17 pm

      It’s already in the works — Hector is coming up. Hope to hell he doesn’t take another one off the mask. I think his continuing to catch after several concussions is BS by the Giants…

      • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:20 pm

        Yeah, no surprise there. It is kind of a key stretch right now, and they would rather have a comatose catcher with ML experience up as opposed to a rook (even if the kid is tearing it up).

  29. Lisle Ellis said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    Big storm here in Fresno (much needed rain), lost power for most of 2 hours, missed the last few innings … Another Win! Let’s sweep these muthas 2morrow … then bring on the Pedofriars!

    • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2015 at 10:41 pm

      Bust the fucking brooms out, Lisle!

      Pedofriars…that one seriously had me LMAO.

  30. Lisle Ellis said, on July 18, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    You guys are much more knowledgeable than me, so maybe one of you can enlighten me … Bochy is always touted as one of, if not THE, premier manager in MLB. Especially strong praise is given to the way he manages his BP & SP. Here is my query: why is it he insists on leaving pitchers in games when they are obviously spent?

    Is that not the definition of insanity (doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result)?

    I’m just a dumbass, no nothing baseball fiend, but even a simian such as myself can tell when our guys are on the verge of collapse. It’s actually getting kinda eerie the number of times I’ve predicted impending doom and said under my breath, “oh, oh, ‘buddy whatshisname’ is done and with the next pitch he’s gonna give up a dinger”

    So, in a nut, my question is: WTF?

  31. Paul Sorensen said, on July 18, 2015 at 11:51 pm

    The only one who is *much more knowledgeable* than you, Lisle, is Mr. Bochy. We Flappers all just have our observations and opinions, and yeah, sometimes (and sometimes even often) we think we know better than Brucie. But of course we don’t. Even if it seems that way. 🙂 Honestly, at this point in the season, and especially with Peavy and Cain just coming back, I think Bochy is managing longer term for the future of this season. Of course he wants to win these games, now, but I think he’s testing these guys, pushing them a little, so he can see what they’ve got and what they can give the team. He figures that chances are good the G’s will win these games more often than not, and if he can get a good read on what they’ll be able to contribute when it becomes crunch time about a month or so from now, the team will be better off. In short, I don’t thnk Bochy sweats “the small stuff” now, and if that means leaving a pitcher in for what seems to be one batter too many, that tells him something useful for down the road a bit. Especially with a big lead like they had in Saturday’s game.

    • snarkk said, on July 19, 2015 at 2:04 am

      Good take on that, Paul. Bochy is wary of blowing out this Pen early, since the starters aren’t going far into games, other than Bum, and sometimes Heston. If he has a lead like tonite, which is rare, he’ll ride somebody like Peavy as long as possible to save some Pen. That’s what it looks like to me…

    • Lisle Ellis said, on July 19, 2015 at 3:59 am

      Thanks Paul and thanks Snark. That makes a lot of sense … if I understand correctly, taxing the BP at this juncture is ill advised. Having SP that can go even one measly inning or so deeper makes a world of a difference in regards to long term BP wear & tear. We haven’t had that depth so far and the likelyhood of getting it from our current 3, 4 & 5 people seems improbable. It’s a conundrum: damned if we do, damned if we don’t.

    • chipower9 said, on July 19, 2015 at 8:07 am

      Lisle – I agree with Paul on his points, including your knowledge and that of the other Flappers, and I certainly think his point on “seeing what he has” in his SPs makes sense. And I agree with snarkk – one of the early issues was how the SPs were not going deeper in the games, and hence, taxing the pen. Good stuff all around.

  32. willedav said, on July 19, 2015 at 7:52 am

    @SanDawg: what is mood in Diego where SF will go next for 3? From what I read Pads and new GM might be sellers at deadline. Even though they have won 4 in a row (couple over the Sherps after break) they are still 9 back of LA and 6 under .500. Long way to go but lot of teams ahead of them for a WC spot.

    Kinda funny the other night when Giants fans were booing loudly after Vogs didn’t get a call in the 12th; most of AZ fans had already left and it sounded like a home game at ATT.

    I was surprised Peavy came back out for 7th too after the 5t and 6th. Great job to get Golds out., but Cliff Pennington goes yard?
    I think it is good experience for Osich and Strick to come in with guys on base and have to deal with it. this is what makes set up guys so valuable (more than a closer, imo). I’m sure this is discussed late innings with SP–you are going to start the inning, but anyone gets on your night is over.

    Everyone not named Belt looks good at the plate. Get away day so expect unexpected in the LU.

    • willedav said, on July 19, 2015 at 7:57 am

      I will admit this too–when he is scuffling like now, no one looks worse than Belt.
      He’s swung and missed fastballs and been fooled utterly on change ups and offspeed stuff.

      • chipower9 said, on July 19, 2015 at 8:12 am

        Yeah, I slam Belt often, and when I do, I truly think it is deserved. When he is going bad…he looks REALLY bad, and when he is going good, ya love the guy. He is definitely the most frustrating starting position player for me.

  33. chipower9 said, on July 19, 2015 at 8:19 am

    Match-up of the lefties today. MadBum against the kid Corbin who was recently activated coming back from Tommy John.

    I read the following this morning: “Giants infielder Nori Aoki underwent a CT scan Saturday on the fractured fibula above his right ankle, and the test showed 80 percent healing. He’s taking part in baseball activities and will return either to the roster or for a short Minor League rehab as soon as the pain is tolerable enough for him to be activated.”

    It will be nice to get Aoki back, and hopefully he can come back and produce similar to how he was prior to the injury.

    One last note…Goldylocks lifetime .235 against Bum (over five years with 2 HR).

    • Bozo said, on July 19, 2015 at 9:14 am

      “Giants infielder Nori Aoki …” I hope when he comes back he can play OF

      • chipower9 said, on July 19, 2015 at 9:47 am

        LMAO John…I totally missed that…

  34. giants54 said, on July 19, 2015 at 8:55 am

    With his poor postseason and poor beginning this year, it’s easy to forget Peavy went 7 or more innings in 7 of 11 starts for the G’s last yr down the stretch.
    So he’s shown he can be effective beyond the 6th.

    • chipower9 said, on July 19, 2015 at 8:59 am

      Good point 54. And I think with the past history between Peavy and Boch, that Peavy may get a bit more rope than some of the other starters.

  35. willedav said, on July 19, 2015 at 9:11 am

    @SanDawg part 2: My godson and his younger brother are both stone Raiders fans; little bro according to his Mom said he would disown them if they moved back down to LA, which seems like distinct possibility given myriad Oakland Coliseum issues.

    what’s going on with Charger fans/voters/ownership re: stadium?

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