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Dead Man Walking

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 20, 2015

Hector Sanchez has returned. I admit, I didn’t even know he was still playing. Thought he retired. Maybe he should have. This guy is playing with fire and you can’t help but wince every time you see him take one off the face.

Here’s what he said yesterday:

“I was scared after what happened last year, but I try to live with it,” Sanchez said. “Nothing I can do. If I play baseball, I have to be a catcher. It’s how I learned to play.”

That’s hardly a mindset that anyone should have to have when they go to work everyday. Every pitch that’s thrown at him is a risk. It’s hard to watch.

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  1. chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:59 am

    Agree Craig re: Sanchez. I can see why he got the call (sort of)…a guy with ML experience. Cannot recall who made the comment the other day, but I would have rather seen Ben Turner get the call (made the jump from San Jose to Sacto this year). He is tearing it up in AAA right now (although it is a small sample size) and has thrown-out 38% of steal attempts.

  2. Bozo said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:22 am

    Hector, the human magnet. It seems like every time I see him get hit, they are full on shots, no glancing blows. I guess continuing on as a catcher is his call (sort of). From 2012 through 2014 he made about $500 thousand a year, this year he is making $800 thousand. Man, I hope that is because he was arb eligible and it wasn’t the Giants sweetening the deal to talk him into climbing back into the pinball machine

    Man, I hope he doesn’t have to catch very often..

  3. twinfan1 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:34 am

    I completely agree, yet I understand. Hector has done this all of his life and no matter what he says now, young people just don’t grasp permanent disability and their own mortality. I remember when a 49er was asked whether he knew that football linemen had an average life expectancy of 20 years less than the average for all men. He responded, in essence, that it was “part of the deal”.
    Anyway, I wish Hector well.

  4. Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:35 am

    Duh-stin Johnson finishes 75/75 and that’s the face of a man who can’t stand the pressure…..

    • wilcojoe said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:48 am

      Knowing who he goes home to every night, I have zero sympathy.

  5. Bozo said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:43 am

    Wait, Hector is just coming off the DL because of another concussion? This is from Schulman –

    “Sanchez returned from Sacramento’s disabled list Thursday. In a July 2 game against Salt Lake City, he took three foul shots off the mask. He said he initially felt dizzy, “but after that I felt very good, nothing serious like before.”

    Manager Bruce Bochy said the medical staff will keep a keen eye on Sanchez, but he is healthy now and able to play.”

    • Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:56 am

      I know, that’s what inspired the thread. Seems like the Giants should save him from himself, force him to retire, turn him into a coach or something with a nice salary. Trotting him back out there almost seems sick to me.

      • Bozo said, on July 20, 2015 at 11:04 am

        I agree, this is crazy.
        What? That last one felt like getting hit in the head with a sledge hammer, and this one only felt like getting hit with a claw hammer? Unbelievable, I think I’ll try and avoid watching games he’s catching.

  6. Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:53 am

    5 years ago today, Mattingly got taken to school……
    http://m.mlb.com/video/v10115281/must-c-controversial-dodgers-mound-visits

    • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:59 am

      Wow…hard to believe it was five years ago when we were all here talking about “Donny Two Trips.” That video is still priceless.

  7. wilcojoe said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:10 am

    What a fucking putt by Spieth on 16. Are you kidding me!

  8. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:12 am

    That is some good television, Big Flavor. The game recap is worth a look too. Lincecum, Sandoval, Rowand (fresh off 2000 swings in the cage no doubt) and Torres with the nail in the coffin.

    http://m.mlb.com/video/v10115463/72010-giants-overcome-dodgers-in-bizarre-fashion/?game_pk=265210

    • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:25 am

      Great memory video Dirt. Thanks for the share. Glass at 2nd…Pablo at 1st…Aaron (got a corncob up my ass getting nailed and leading the the Kershaw ejection)…and Torres with the big knock…gotta love it!

  9. chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:21 am

    Hate to burst your bubble, snarkk, but Garcia (your pick to win the Open) isn’t gonna happen. I am pulling for Spieth to pull it out here. I do not follow/watch golf that often, but sure would like to be watching this final round right now.

  10. wilcojoe said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:40 am

    Gonna need a miracle putt from off the green and up a hill for Spieth to make the playoff.

    • wilcojoe said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:41 am

      Damn near made it. This kid is unreal though.

  11. unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:44 am

    All I saw was some 20 year old amateur kid from Ireland was atop the leaderboard. Hard to think he”l make the charge, but who knows? Some kid nearly won at St Andrews a couple years ago . . .

  12. unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:46 am

    As far as Sanchez goes, he’s got to be taken off the shelf pretty soon. This is damn near negligence in the Giants case. He’s taken more shots than Mike Metheny in a shorter amount of time.

    • Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 11:06 am

      exactly. And if he takes another pop the Giants are going to be like, “ok, that’s probably enough.” But that could be too late. Waiting for him to get hit in the head again is stupid considering the position he plays. It’s not like he’s at first base…..

    • ewisco said, on July 20, 2015 at 11:09 am

      it would seem like the g’s are opening themselves up to a large liability issue downstream. you gotta wonder why?

  13. alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 11:05 am

    Sucks to be working.
    This last round must be crazy, tighter then a frogs butt!
    So is it going to a playoff which I think is 3 holes?

    • Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 11:11 am

      4–1,2,17,18

    • wilcojoe said, on July 20, 2015 at 12:14 pm

      Yeah, working from home is a double edged sword for me. Days like today, I don’t get shit done.

  14. Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 11:09 am

    minor quibble with Spieth: I fucking can’t stand how he refers to himself as “we” in every interview he gives. I get it, it’s a team thing, but it’s not *we* out there swinging it, it’s *he* and he should say *I* more often. Or at least once.

  15. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 11:53 am

    Thanks for the video link, Dirt.
    Yeah, time travels fast when we’re having fun. That game feels like the beginning of the 3-in-5.
    I remember how the Giants were dead in the water in that game, until Lincecum hit Kemp, and then things started changing. It doesn’t appear, to me, that it was intentional from Lincecum. We all know that Timmy can sail that fastball high and to the right of the plate when he’s struggling with his control. Even more-so the last few years.

  16. wilcojoe said, on July 20, 2015 at 12:09 pm

    Zach Johnson is such as pansy ass. Can’t stand him.

    • Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 12:43 pm

      too many tears for you? He did get a little weepy there, enough was enough

  17. xoot said, on July 20, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    rumors starting to rumble about Tim Lincecum–as in, he ain’t comin back. That two-trips game in 2010 was a rare Lincecum dud, although he did scuffle a bit generally toward the end before stepping up in the PS. What I remember most clearly about the game is that the Giants never quit, even when they were down by a bunch. And Bochy was the toughest of them all.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 20, 2015 at 12:32 pm

      Krukow basically laid the groundwork on the radio last week. I see them keeping him on the DL until rosters expand and if they make the playoffs he doesn’t make the cut.

      • xoot said, on July 20, 2015 at 4:47 pm

        maybe. What I heard was trade or release by the end of the month. but the writer who apparently said that off the record hasn’t published it, so who knows.

  18. Irish Kevin said, on July 20, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    Hector…when you are young you think you are going to live forever, some doctor should be whispering in his ear about the consequences of continuing to play. I wonder if hector had to sign something to say he understands the risk of continuing to play? And will that signed waiver let the Giants off the liability hook? I cannot think of another reason why the Giants would continue to let him play.

  19. Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    Jordan Spieth ‏@JordanSpieth 49s49 seconds ago
    Wow.. Almost. Nothing quite like @TheOpen at St Andrews. We fought hard. Very proud of a role model and friend of mine @ZachJohnsonPGA

    See, if he was going to keep in the schizophrenic character, he should have ended his tweet “friend of OURS”.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 20, 2015 at 12:44 pm

      Wasn’t Johnson the guy busted for blow and banging other chicks while Gretzky’s daughter was pregnant with his spawn?

      • alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 2:39 pm

        Yeah Dustin Johnson took some time off the tour for the blow rehab, but his Johnson obviously kept going..

      • wilcojoe said, on July 20, 2015 at 3:12 pm

        Zach Johnson won (no relation to Dustin). Zachary likes to thank God a lot and gets weepy when thinking of his blessings. He’s the Ned Flanders of the tour….Yeah you’re right about Dustin. Would love to know whose wives he was banging before he settled down with Gretzky’s smoking hot daughter.

    • wilcojoe said, on July 20, 2015 at 3:07 pm

      That’s funny. I never noticed he did that until you mentioned it.

      • wilcojoe said, on July 20, 2015 at 3:14 pm

        In regards to Flav’s Speith tweet.

      • Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 3:22 pm

        listen to him get interviewed. It’s constantly “we-this”, “we-that”

  20. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    I’m not as adamant about Hector as some of y’all. He’s looking at it like he’s got these prime years to earn a lot of money to set himself up for life. I can’t begrudge his thinking on that. Yeah, there’s risk, but if wants to do it, it’s hard, I think, for the Giants to say ‘no, we’re going to basically end your playing career now.’ The coaching option is interesting, but who knows if he would be any good at it? Not everyone has that in them to be a coach. Plus, being a low-level coach would mean a big cut in pay, which is not something he’s going to want to do yet.

  21. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    We’ve talked on the Flap before about his higher than average amount of “head shots,” as catcher, and if there is anything he can do to change that, by altering his stance, or position of his glove, or whatever. Someone mentioned that Krukow said that the Giants were trying to work with him on that, but it sounds like it’s not helping that much.

    • unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 1:05 pm

      It’s like football. How do you hit someone up high without using your head? Look up to hit?

      It isn’t physically possible to get your head out of the way. Same with catching. You squat behind the plate. How can you change or do anything else without taking your focus off the pitch? I’d try to figure something out equipment-wise.

  22. unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    Shit, I didn’t realize Hector was only 25. Yikes. He’s probably signing waivers up the wazoo per the Giants medical staff.

    Dirt, that was Dustin Johnson. Doing his Dest Don Johnson Miami Vice impersonation. Zach is Mr. Milquetoast compared to Dustin.

  23. sandog said, on July 20, 2015 at 3:45 pm

    Zach Johnson: Didn’t play like a pansy today. Played his ass off. I have a friend down here who can’t stand him either because of his religious tendencies. That can put me off a bit too, but I thought he went pretty easy on that stuff after winning today. I applaud the guy for a great win and being a gracious winner.

    Spieth: Yeah, I noticed the “we”thing too. He’s obviously a total stud, but man does he play slow, take a ton of practice swings, and want to consult with his caddie on even 2 footers—(maybe that is where the “we” thing comes from). Waiting around to watch and then congratulate the winner was pure class though.

    DJ: I think you are being a little hard on the guy. You don’t come as close as he has come without being able to handle pressure. Yes, 75/75 is a brutal finish, but golf is a sport that can bring you to your knees in many ways—pressure just being one of them.

    I was in a pool where I had Phil, Day, Bubba, and Matt Kuchar. Other than those guys, I was pulling hard for Sergio, who I would love to see win a major and walk down the 18th fairway flipping off the crowd with both hands.

    I’ll be at the game tonight. I bet Hud pitches well after having a good rest.

    I’ve always had a soft spot for Hector. I know the numbers don’t look great, but he seems to swing the bat well when I watch him. I’d love to see him blossom enough as a hitter where he can get out from behind the plate and become a poor man’s Victor Martinez—even if it happens for another team.

  24. unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    Well, if he can keep his head out of harm’s way, it could still happen here.

    Giants got to keep rolling against the dregs of the west.

    Sorry Flav, I can’t resist.

  25. unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    Good luck at Petfood Park, Dawg . . .

  26. djloo27 said, on July 20, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    Just bouncing around on baseball reference and I swear I have no recollection whatsoever of this guy:

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/millebr01.shtml

  27. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 5:30 pm

    Sandoval got two hits; but the bad news for him is that his last-place team lost 11-1.

  28. snarkk said, on July 20, 2015 at 6:13 pm

    I mentioned a while back I thought Hector should quit C and play another position or go coach. He will get hit again , just a matter of time. I’ve lost some respect for the Giants on this. They’re willing to risk this kid’s brain because, apparently he is. They should say no more catching for you, and give him his release if some other squad is willing to risk it and so is he. This stinks IMO. After Metheny, the Giants know well the risk…

  29. xoot said, on July 20, 2015 at 6:36 pm

    degenerative hip disease? double meaning there, I suppose. Looks like Lincecum could end his career on the DL–maybe the 60. One of my favorite Giants. Sad to see him and Cain struggle. Brutal game, sometimes.

    • Bozo said, on July 20, 2015 at 7:57 pm

      Sad to hear that.

  30. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    Machi DFAed. Not a surprise.

  31. Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    sicko

    • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:15 pm

      Damn. Best fielding play I have seen this year. That is fucking slick…

      • snarkk said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:47 pm

        That is a great play. Ballet with a baseball…

  32. Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 7:36 pm

    Awwwwright … 30 pitch first for Huddy … Hmm boy, I hope the bullies be drinkin their red bulls!

  33. Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    love the bunt by Belt. If they’re gonna shift you, fuck them with the bunt

    • Macdog said, on July 20, 2015 at 7:50 pm

      That’ll probably be their only hit off Kennedy.

    • Macdog said, on July 20, 2015 at 7:52 pm

      Or maybe not! Blanco!!!

  34. Macdog said, on July 20, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    I was pulling for Leishman, and except for the missed putt after that great out of the bunker (I think it was 16), he did just about everything right. But one bad putt was enough, and then he had no chance in the playoff vs. Z. Johnson and Oost. I’m also not crazy about athletes like Z. Johnson who spout God this and God that, but that was a helluva putt he made on 18. Yet another major decided at the end on a missed putt. Oost made some tough ones, but he blew some, too. And as long as we’re quibbling about Spieth, who is such an incredible talent, my beef is he seems easily and overly bothered by the photogs, much like Tiger and his former thug caddie Steve Williams.

    • Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:04 pm

      agreed. I’m not sure if it was just more noticeable because he was on camera more often than other players but goddamn he and his caddy yapped a lot about phones

  35. Bozo said, on July 20, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    White Shark sighting in San Diego.

  36. Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 7:56 pm

    Ishi with dinger & 4rbi in KC tonite!

    • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:03 pm

      I wish him nothing but the best…unless the Bucs are playing us. I truly hope he can retire a Giant. That bomb last year will live on in my memory for the rest of my days.

  37. Carstie Clausen said, on July 20, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    Keeps on happening. If he doesn’t play on a daily basis El Tiburon Blanco is a weapon.

  38. chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    More times than not, Craw is a Wizard with the glove. Poetry in motion…

  39. Flavor said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:02 pm

    Crawford is a really, REALLY good shortstop

  40. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:02 pm

    Slick play, Craw.

  41. chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:03 pm

    Fucking Kemp.

    • zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:08 pm

      And the walk right before it was brutal. Nothing the defense could do about those two runs.

      • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:10 pm

        Yep. It may be too early to rush to judgement, but at 40, you really have to start wondering if Hudson has anything left in the tank.

  42. Macdog said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    Kruk said Hudson might go about 85-90 pitches. He didn’t mention Hudson might reach that by the 4th inning.

    • Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:16 pm

      Yeah, that was another 30 pitch inning … well, 29 actually.

  43. alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:22 pm

    You know “ALL Catchers” should not be allowed to use those stupid hockey catcher masks.
    They might be cool to them to match team colors or whatever but their proven to not to be as concussion friendly then what the umpires wear.
    They use a heavier steel gauge on the umps masks, that doesn’t rock their necks back with the force that plastic materials do.
    Some catchers like Posey, still like the hockey ones, cause their lighter and catching 9 innings or longer, but if you want better protection, from neck snaps/ concussions symptoms,they should all go old school mask. IMO

    • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:25 pm

      Kat, I have seen umps wearing the hockey mask….not many, but I have seen them. I get it that the traditional mask may be more protective, but IMO it should be up to the player as to which type of mask he wears,

      • alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:43 pm

        Well Chi, I don’t think the Giants should give Hector the choice of what mask to use, considering all his concussions were from using the hockey mask. We need a backup catcher that will last behind the dish for atleast the next 2 weeks..

      • alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:50 pm

        Buster is just locked in with his hitting lately,you know your going good when you have more walks then K’s for the season…

  44. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    The Giants having trouble with Ian Kennedy: we’ve seen that before.

  45. Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:43 pm

    doggrels lost to Atl .. we got a chance to gain some ground here …. Let’s GO GIANTS!!

  46. Bozo said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    Tied up.

  47. Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    Bustah in da clutch!

  48. Carstie Clausen said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    Buster is sooo good when he has two strikes on him. He has practically patented shortening his stroke and dinking that single. If fact he may well be the best 2-strike hitter in the game.

    • xoot said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:09 pm

      Buster’s hitter number 1 in 2015:
      Two Strikes 74 G 143 PA .238.301 .346 .647
      Two Strikes 72 G 154 PA .256 .377 .410 .795

      • xoot said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:20 pm

        Miguel Cabrera’s the second set of numbers.

  49. giants54 said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    Cubs lost. Chance to move into a tie for the 2nd WC spot.

  50. unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    I could smell this coming a mile away. Fuck. Get the pen going. Again.

  51. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    Hudson’s just crap tonight.

  52. Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    Yeeeha … here we go again ..

  53. giants54 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    94 pitches…is vog ready?

  54. giants54 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    Guess it’s Petit

  55. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:03 pm

    He wussed out against Kemp.

  56. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    How about DFA Hudson. I’m serious.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:08 pm

      As I said the other day – Bum and Heston and three #5s (dead weight).

      • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:14 pm

        In all fairness, Peavy has looked decent since coming back, and Cain hasn’t been crap. Hoping they can give us some decent starts down the stretch.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:25 pm

        True. Just wondering how much those 2 still have leftbin the tank going forward. Dunno . . .

  57. unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    Scrape and scrap for a run, and then Huddy loads them up and can’t get a fucking out. 100 pitches through 4.

    Now Timmy may be toast? That’s seriously fucked up. He’s set for 5 lifetimes, but what the hell, That sucks.

  58. unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    I’m glad Huddy didn’t want a piece of Kemp. We at least have a tinker’s chance in hell to get through this.

  59. Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    Huddy was at 88 going in this inning … just gotta squeeze every nonexistent drop outta him, uh? Save the BP 5 pitches … but risk how many runs? Guess we’ll just have to hammer down on Kimbrel … Yeah, that’ll work.

  60. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    Hudson said he was on the DL for old-itis. Har dee har har, that’s funny.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:11 pm

      And true. Wish he had stayed and filled out his social security paperwork.

  61. chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    Holy shit…we have a Petit sighting…Hope he can keep it at one run here.

  62. chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    The fireman puts out the fire. Okay…time to put up a crooked number…

  63. Bozo said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    Again, Crawford making it look easy.

    • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:23 pm

      Yep…Craw having a great night in the field. Straighten one of those out and tie the game…

  64. chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    Not only is Pagan not right at the plate, but he has let a few in the gap get by him of late…balls he normally cuts-off. He needs to sit and get right. All the more reason to go trade for Parra…

    • zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:40 pm

      Pagan’s playing like Grandpa Walton. This isn’t going to work.

      • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:51 pm

        Hey, Granpa Walton would have cut-off that hit in the gap…

      • snarkk said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:14 pm

        Pagan’s got at least one bad wheel, and there’s NOBODY in the minors that can take his place for a DL stint? That is F’d up…

    • alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:45 pm

      Is that 100 starts with Kevin or 100 appearances Chi?
      Great play to nail Kemp at 1st…

      • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:54 pm

        I think appearances, Kat, but truly not sure. 81 starts, and has been in 85 games to date (these stats may be a day off).

  65. alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    Petit’s mystery injury will be coming up soon along with Machi’s release..

  66. unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    Something. Pagan has lost 2 steps, and Petit has thrown 40 through 1.2 innings. The pen is really getting qworked fast.

  67. unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    Craw with the play!!!!

  68. unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    Kemp napping!!! Dumb-ass!!! Love it.

  69. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    There’s a bunch of nice young talented players on the Giants, but there’s a bunch of old creaky players, too.

  70. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    Adrianza = not a major leaguer.

  71. alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    Hey Kuip,
    It’s a bit of an overmatch every time OOO steps into the box…

  72. alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    One of the best natural swing in baseball Mr. Joe Panik..

  73. snarkk said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    Bunch of you Flappers beat me to it. I’m not the only one that thinks Huddy may be done. One more start at ATT, see how he does, but wow, this ain’t looking good. Gyros have two starters in Bum and Heston. The other 3 starts are a total crapshoot, barely can get 5 innings out of these guys. If that continues, this Pen will be cooked by early August. Is there anybody in the minors they can bring up to start? This rotation looks like it’s in serious trouble. The transition I’ve been yapping about may happen in the next 3 weeks…

    • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:00 pm

      Well, Peavy hasn’t looked too bad since coming back. In his last three when went:
      6.1 – 3H, 2 ER
      7.0 – 6 H, 1 ER
      6.1, 8H, 4 ER.

      Cain has gone 5, 6, and 5 with 5, 0, and 4 ER.

      Not sure they have anyone who is ready to step in or not…have not been following the minor stats of late.

      • snarkk said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:07 pm

        True. His last start wasn’t too impressive, and Bochy kept him in a bit too long to try and save the Pen with the big lead. If it were closer, I think he’d have pulled Peavy before going into the 7th.

  74. Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    Here comes our awe inspiring bench… Woooooo, Airhead Adeerancid …. sooooo scarweey!!!

  75. xoot said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    so who’s the guy in the first row behind home plate, wearing shades at a night game?

    • Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:02 pm

      It ain’t hip to wear sunglasses at night … Unless you should be wearing sunglasses at night, then it aint hip not to.

      • xoot said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:13 pm

        reminds me of that early SNL skit where Belushi/Beethoven snorts coke and turns into Belush/Ray Charles

      • Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:17 pm

        Mine is actually a line from an old comedy album from the 50’s called ” How to Speak Hip’ delivered by the fictitious beatnik Geetz Romo.

      • xoot said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:22 pm

        Well, that’s hip. I still wonder about guy wearing shades in the best seat in the house tonight. I thought I saw him checking his phone earlier, but maybe not. Maybe he’s listening intently.

      • xoot said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:24 pm

        ah ha! he took his shades off in the bottom of the 9th. fucker

  76. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    Slow-moving game, too.

    • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:01 pm

      Yeah, I am about to take my slow moving ass to bed…

      • Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:04 pm

        A www really Chi … Not gonna stick around to see who comes off the bench next? … Maxsmell? Nariass? Vector?

      • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:09 pm

        Lisle – some of us (unfortunately I am one of those “us”) still work for a living, and I get up at 5. Surprised I have made it this far tonight…time to turn on KNBR and listen from the rack.

      • Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:12 pm

        Condolences Chi … Got your back here bro, always … just kiddin’ wid ya truly … I’m retired mostly … no, make that retarded 🙂

      • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:22 pm

        Four more years for me, Lisle…unless I hit that lottery! 😉

  77. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    Vogey’s taking forever between pitches.

  78. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    Nice DP.

  79. snarkk said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    Has anyone ever heard that Lincecum had bad hips? All of a sudden, out of the blue, he’s got degenerative hip disease — in BOTH hips? You don’t get something like that overnight, I should think. Either it’s baloney, or as usual, the Giants have kept some serious medical stuff under wraps, and the beat writers have been clueless or knew and didn’t say. Maybe the usual, “oh, he’s been treated for bad hips for the last two seasons” kind of casual drop will come out in the stories this week…

    • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:24 pm

      Perhaps fabricated. But I will say that when I started feeling pain and numbness in my right arm and forefinger/thumb, it came on all of a sudden. I did physical therapy, chiro, had a nerve conductivity test, and after months, found out I had some herniated discs. So, if Timmy does have degenerative hip stuff going on, it truly may have just come on. And again, maybe a ploy to keep him on the DL as there is not a spot for him on the staff.

      • snarkk said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:29 pm

        I think your second surmise is probably on track…

  80. Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:13 pm

    read that Boch said he has been bothered by it since last year.

    • snarkk said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:15 pm

      Typical Giants medical BS. I don’t believe any medical crap they release to the public anymore…

      • unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:23 pm

        I have no idea what the rules are regarding the disclosure of injuries, but just because they knew about it last year doesn’t mean they have to tell the world. If the medical staff clears him to play, what are they supposed to do?

        I mean even Hector is a much more egregious problem because he IS putting his brain at risk. Timmy’s just trying to contribute. If he;s at the point where he has to retire,this doesn’t reflect on the medical staff as much as exposing Sanchez to more shots to the head.

        Let’s get to Kimbrel. Fuck the Pads. Almost fgot there,

    • chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:25 pm

      Didn’t see your post before responding to snarkk.

  81. unca_chuck said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:14 pm

    This one is a crawler. Wonder if Sandog can rally the troops in the 9th.

    Shit, that looks like a 1979 Candlesrtick crowd.

  82. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    A 4-2 game shouldn’t be heading for 3 1/2 hours.

    • zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:16 pm

      In theory.

  83. alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:21 pm

    So should Tim change his walk up music to “Hip to be Square” by Huey Lewis?

    • Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:29 pm

      WoW Kat.. Beauty!

      • alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:42 pm

        Thanks Lisle,
        Since I’m old school and couldn’t think of a hip-hop song for Tim, “Hip to be Square” works for me🎤🎷

  84. alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    Kimbrel’s fucking bird of prey act is getting old..

  85. chipower9 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    That sucked. Erase, rewind, delete. Get ’em tomorrow. G’night, girls.

  86. snarkk said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    Sheezus, were the Giants running late in their dates with hookers back at the hotel? Kimbrel throws 4 pitches — game over. When Casilla comes in, we drop 5 pounds sweating out the save…

    • Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:32 pm

      Nice observation Snarkk. So, true true!

    • alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:46 pm

      Snarkk,
      Guess the players figure they have a better chance to score with hookers, then off of Kimbrel..

  87. Lisle Ellis said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:27 pm

    And dats dat … Once again, the predictability of unpredictability … saw that finish comin 90 mins ago.
    Oh well, no gain on the division and no gain on the WC.

  88. alleykat69 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:27 pm

    I’m sick and tired of bottom feeders like the Padres owning our asses!!
    Shit, I wish we could just play the fucking Dodgers every game!!!

  89. snarkk said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:48 pm

    They’re missing Susac already…

  90. giants54 said, on July 20, 2015 at 10:48 pm

    August should be fun then, with no bottom feeders.

  91. zumiee said, on July 20, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    My two big take-aways from tonight’s game is that Hudson is not going to be much help down the stretch. He wasn’t last year either, but at least last year he had a good first half. He didn’t do that this year. He’s just done. It happens to all players eventually.
    And the other take-away is that the Giants need to acquire a good outfielder and shut Pagan down for the rest of the season, and try to get him healthy in the off-season. He’s just a shell of himself hobbling around out there. It’s admirable that he wants to do what he can to try to help the team, but it’s up to the team management to say enough is enough.

    • snarkk said, on July 21, 2015 at 12:06 am

      Agree mostly, zum. I don’t know what’s wrong with Pagan other than the stated bone bruise to one knee, whatever that means. He could have a cartilage tear, for all we know. Aoki comes up, Pagan should go onto the DL. It’s a shame the Giants have NO outfield substitutes from the minors. None. We can laud the Giants management all we want for 3 in 5, but that doesn’t take away from the truth that there is a shocking lack of outfielders in this system. You just should not be in this position where a player is forced to play hurt. It makes no sense to me — the guy can’t run down frozen ropes like he used to do when healthy, and he’s a shell of himself at the plate…

      • zumiee said, on July 21, 2015 at 12:12 am

        I read a thing that said Tyler Beede is being scouted by the Red Sox, but I don’t see what the Red Sox have, outfield-wise, that would be of interest. And I don’t think the Giants would trade such a promising first round pick to get a rental. I don’t think they’ll do a Beltran/Wheeler type of deal again. I think that was a one-off.

      • snarkk said, on July 21, 2015 at 12:21 am

        Beede has to be the top choice to take one of the at least two open rotation spots next year, so I can’t see any scenario where they trade him…

      • Lisle Ellis said, on July 21, 2015 at 1:31 am

        My two big take-aways from tonight’s game (carrying on with Zum’s theme) were Kat’s 10:21 post suggesting Lincecum’s new walk up music should be ‘Hip to be Square’ … and … Kat’s 10:24 … “Kimbrel’s fucking bird of prey act is getting old.” … Yeah, what’s up with that pre-pitch posture of fuckin’ Cumbrela’s? I suppose he thinks he is going to distract the batter by making them think they should suddenly stand at attention, remove their cap, and place their hand over their heart and start crooning the start spangled?? fuck him, Fuck Him 2x!

        On topic .. Huddy just might surprise yet with an inverse performance from last year: shit at start but gold at the end … but I doubt it.

        Here is the ugly reality as I see it …

        We have only two starters, maybe two and a half.
        Our SP issues are going to exacerbate the already existing serious troubles of the pen.
        We have a serious problem in the OF: no power of consequence and suspect defense in CF.
        Our bench really, really, really sucks!

      • chipower9 said, on July 21, 2015 at 8:57 am

        snarkk – this has always been their M.O. for quite a while, and they have always filled those needs via a trade, or a dumpster dive. This can easily be addressed for this year, and a few more, if they put together the right package and go get Parra. Giddy the fuck up and get it done!

        And I do not think Pagan needs to be shut-down all year…but only time would tell.

  92. ewisco said, on July 21, 2015 at 7:00 am

    I think they should DL Pagan for awhile so he can get healthy. Blanco everyday is usually not a great thing but put him in center with Maxwell and maybe belt in left (if posey has a game at first) for the next two games. then aoki comes back on Friday and we should be ok for awhile (or until they get Parra?).

  93. willedav said, on July 21, 2015 at 7:42 am

    I think e wisc is right. If you think about it, there really isn’t room for another OF like Parra once Aoki returns this week as long as Pagan is around. And it would not surprise me one iota once he goes on DL and gets serious medical attention, he’s done for the year.

    I used to play b-ball regularly once a week with other old fart guys (all of us over 40) in a small gym, til I had some Achilles tendinitis. I could feel it grab and tighten up if I pushed transition speed to what I could normally do at full exertion, so I’d back off and slow down. And eventually gave up all together and worked to strengthen/stretch the muscles around it, but I never went back to playing full court like that.
    That’s what Pagan looks like to me—that next gear might still be there but he knows he can’t use it. There was a play couple weeks ago with a guy on 1b and he hit a two hopper to 2b batting LH. The throw came back to 1b from the SS for the DP and he was barely even in the picture, out by 3-4 steps.

  94. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2015 at 8:21 am

    Yeah, they just need to get Aoki, and now Susac back. They only get Parra if Pagan is shut down completely.

  95. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2015 at 8:25 am

    I’d go with Tower of Power’s What is Hip? Huey Lewis is a weenie compared to these guys..

    Again, sorry Flav, but I can’t resist.

    Greatest horn section steroids ever created.

    Lenny Williams was Bad. Ass.

  96. willedav said, on July 21, 2015 at 8:27 am

    You know Flav, more I think about it you might have the right heading but the wrong guy.
    Giants still owe Pagan for next year, right? But an OF of Aoki Pence Blanco Parra ( guy I’ve always liked) is not bad at all and Max as a back up/RH pop is OK. Given Pagan’s recent history of last few years, he could be next Scut., as in done forever. Are Giants ready to back all the way off him and go different direction for full time CF? Brewers said to have Carlos Gomez available too, tho Parra likely a lot cheaper in terms of pitching talent they’d want in return.

    Snarkk, lot of us remember the days going back to early 60s when SF always had too many OFs in the system so it’s kind of hard to take what is up with many years lack of development. Even a team as bad as AZ has a fine crop of young OFs with Peralta Polllock Inciarte; they had Parra and Adam Eaton that they both traded away before that.

  97. Flavor said, on July 21, 2015 at 8:36 am

    new thread. Sorry Willie, cut an paste this over to the new one


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