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Gum Throwing Pussy

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 22, 2015

Kinda glad last night unfolded the way it did. I needed a reason to start hating the Padres. My favorite part of the night was the “Let’s go Giants” chant that broke out in their yard during the clearing of the benches. And nothing quite says “I’m a huge pussy” than being a grown man and throwing your gum at another grown man who isn’t even looking at you……

I’m happy for Sanchez, after all he’s been through, that must have felt awesome…..

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  1. wilcojoe said, on July 23, 2015 at 9:48 am

    Lots of talk today about MLB moving the trade deadline back. I guess I would be up for that. I mean if your going to give up prospects for a rental, you might as well get your money’s worth.

    • chipower9 said, on July 23, 2015 at 11:23 am

      Would be interested to see the new proposed dates, parameters, etc.

  2. wilcojoe said, on July 23, 2015 at 10:35 am

    Astros get Kazmir for two low level prospects. Great trade for Houston. This should be good news for the Giants if they want a rental. They won’t have to give up much if this is the precedent. I think we are in for a ton of moves between now and the deadline.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 23, 2015 at 11:03 am

      Its been pretty quiet on the Sabevans front. Quieter than usual one might say. Something shocking may be in the mix.

    • Bozo said, on July 23, 2015 at 11:06 am

      Looks like those National writers that Flav was talking about, got Houston and San Francisco mixed up. Easy to do I guess.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 23, 2015 at 2:18 pm

      Hopefully Kazmir was sposta face the Giants this weekend. SF has a plethora of pretty good to excellent pitching prospects at Richmond alone and that’s the higher minors. Also, for a really good rental (or better) we also have a couple of sparkly catchers in the pipeline.

  3. willedav said, on July 23, 2015 at 11:10 am

    Flav, I guess the thing I don’t think is fair is the singling out of Belt to be whipping boy for suckitude on the blog, outside of Max and Pagan.
    If he hit more HRs than doubles I’d like him a lot more. When he is going bad, as he was first 2 games in AZ he looks really bad and I posted as such.

    Craw btw Sun/Mon was 0-7 with 4 Ks. He is a streaky hitter too, but gets free pass (as in June when he hit .217 after a great May), as do most other Giants. Deserving AS, but like most guys up and down in his career.
    Belt gets a hit and walk in a game SF is winning 9-0, and gets F-bombs.

    • chipower9 said, on July 23, 2015 at 11:26 am

      Hey, I really do not have that much of a beef with Belt. My “Trade Belt!” banter has become more a thing of jest, than not. But when he is going bad, and comparred to other players when they are going bad…Belt looks REALLY BAD. I just don’t like his body language either. Just something about him that makes it hard for me to really like and root for the guy.

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 23, 2015 at 2:19 pm

        Much easier to handle when you don’t have a video connexion.

  4. chipower9 said, on July 23, 2015 at 11:30 am

    I must have been away from the boob tube when they showed this (I remember the hit and making a comment about a dying quail)…but do not recall the Spider Man antics…

    http://tinyurl.com/nzlogyq

  5. unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2015 at 11:34 am

    Yeah, I mentioned the same thing earlier. Like if Belt threw a gatorade jug, or smashed a bat rack or some shit, I’d like him more. His gumby shoulders shit just is so passive. Sure, he doesn’t go nuts when things go well either, but show SOMETHING.

    Hey, he’s been here for all 3 rings, so there’s something going on with that. I just wish he’d be a little more consistent.

    • zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 12:04 pm

      Totally not to nit-pick, but Belt was there for two of the championships.

      • chipower9 said, on July 24, 2015 at 7:47 am

        Yep…I was just going to comment. He made the club in 2011 out of ST.

  6. unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2015 at 11:37 am

    And yeah, I’m with Chuck. I think the whole Belt thing is all tongue-in-cheek at this point.

    (never got what the fuck that is supposed to mean)

    • chipower9 said, on July 23, 2015 at 12:08 pm

      Originated back in the 1800s (isn’t google great) and was originally used in contempt. What the fuck ever.

      And speaking of contemp, perhaps mine for BB9 comes from the HBO series “The Franchise” that followed the Giants as they defended their title in 2011. There was one episode in which Belt gets notified that he has made the big club. They are in Bochy’s office, and Belt breaks down and begins to sob. Bochy, cool as ever asks Belt, “Ya need a beer?”

      Hey, WTF, I thought there wasn’t any crying in baseball!

      • zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 12:16 pm

        I almost cried after the 2002 World Series.
        As much joy as I felt after the ’10 World Series, it was just as much a feeling of relief. An awesome feeling of being at peace with the baseball world for the first time in my life.

  7. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 23, 2015 at 11:41 am

    Belt has a slump buster residing in house on a nightly basis. There is no excuse for his poor performance.

  8. zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 12:23 pm

    How bad have the Red Sox been after the All-Star break? This bad:

    “The Sox have been outscored 34-9.
    The Sox have led once in six games. They have been ahead for two of 54 innings.
    The Sox are batting a collective .192 (37-for-193).
    The Sox have been outhomered 13-1. David Ortiz has the only Sox home run in that span.
    The Sox’s starting pitchers are 0-5 with a 7.31 ERA.”

  9. zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    Willie and Xoot, thanks for your insight on criminal justice classes. Interesting.

    • willedav said, on July 23, 2015 at 12:43 pm

      Dunno where I read it, but it was said if you read those first amendments to people (other than militia right to bear arms), they’d think you were a commie.
      Like Xoot says, pure luck that a guy I took a Poli Sci intro class from my first year of college would teach an A-J class from that point of view.

      • zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 12:51 pm

        I think the Sandra Bland case has the potential of being influential, civil-rights-wise, and the-way-police-are-trained-wise. Do the police have the right to order you to leave your car without telling you why? She kept asking him why and he wouldn’t tell her. And that was because he had no reason, other than she had pissed him off with her attitude. He asked her to put out her cigarette and she refused. Maybe she had blown smoke in his face (probably not), which even if that happened, is still not enough to justify his behavior: the pulling out of the taser and all that.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 23, 2015 at 2:22 pm

      The very term CRIMINAL JUSTICE says it all. Police used to be peace officers, there ” to serve and protect”. Now the mantra is to harass and intimidate (particularly folks of color) and to kill when they can get by with it.

  10. wilcojoe said, on July 23, 2015 at 12:28 pm

    Was at the Red Sox-Astros game last night and was chatting with a Boston fan. He hopes to see a fire sale. He can’t stand Sandoval (apparently few Sox fans refer to him as the Panda) and hopes he is the first to go. I told him, good luck with that. I don’t see money potential takers.

    • zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 12:41 pm

      Yeah, Boston sunk big money into those bad contracts and now they’re really stuck. And their young talent hasn’t really done much, either. It worked out well for the Giants not to re-sign Sandoval. He’s clearly trending the wrong way.
      The Astros have a cool young team. They’re fun to watch. The Astros and Royals are pumping some life into the American League. They’re athletic teams that are more like National League teams. They’re not the typical Friday Night Softball-esque AL teams.
      And the NL has won 5 of the last 7 World Series in the post-steroid-heavy era.

    • chipower9 said, on July 23, 2015 at 12:56 pm

      Yeah, only way they dump Pablo and HanRam is to eat most of the salary. And that is one huge pill to swallow…not sure I see that happening. Bad news in Beantown…

  11. unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2015 at 1:12 pm

    Yup. And to think Boston went through this 3 short years ago. Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

  12. unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2015 at 1:15 pm

    Well, in the Astros case they WERE an NL team for 55 years. They’ve only been Al for 3. (*ok, I guessed)

    • wilcojoe said, on July 23, 2015 at 1:35 pm

      Yep and the longtime fans down here got screwed. Part of the deal when the Astros were sold to current owner Jim Crane was that he wouldn’t object a move to the AL. A lot of people believe that MLB gave special concessions to Crane in order for him to be the “lucky buyer.”

  13. alleykat69 said, on July 23, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    I liked the Astros when they first started out and were the Colt 45’s..
    Those were Bitchin uni’s, Toy Cannon Jimmy Wynn in center, great player on bad teams..

  14. zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 2:39 pm

    The Ohio St. QB with a provocative and well-done (IMO) Twitter exchange:
    http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2015/07/ohio-state-quarterback-fan-stupid-tweet

    • chipower9 said, on July 23, 2015 at 2:51 pm

      That is cool as hell. And I love “Mother Jones”…awesome magazine…

  15. blade3colorado said, on July 23, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    Questions unrelated to baseball . . . I’m curious about how much money you’re getting hosed for Internet services (and your download speed) . . . While on my road trip back East, I monitor my bills, accounts, etc., via my smart phone and laptop. Comcast introductory offer expired while I was on the road and it more then doubled in price from around $29 per month to $68 and change. The service was for 40 plus Mbps, so that was the good . . . However, I decided to cancel the service and fast forward to the end of my trip, I thought I would be able to get comparable service at a reasonable price point. Wrongo . . . In fact, there really is only one other game in town, i.e., Century Link (use to be called Qwest). Their Hi-speed internet is only rated at 12 and 20 Mbps . . . I got the latter (mostly because I pirate the Giants broadcast and first run movies).

    Anywho, those are the 3 questions – Who ya with, how much (I recognize some get bundled packages) and how fast? Thanks in advance . . . 😉

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 23, 2015 at 3:09 pm

      I’m in the middle of moving and reset our package with Comcast. We do the bundle package and it comes to roughly $130.00 for a 12 month duration then they’ll probably try to jack it up as you say happened to you. I’ll probably move to U-Verse at that time.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 23, 2015 at 3:41 pm

        Same speed Dirt (40 Mbps)?

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 23, 2015 at 3:57 pm

        50 Mbps

    • zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 4:02 pm

      My wife handles all that in our home. She’s our techie.

  16. Bozo said, on July 23, 2015 at 3:42 pm

    From the Giants FB page –

    Reminder! Tomorrow come join us at the Majestic Clubhouse at 4pm. ‪#‎ForeverGiant‬ Jeffrey Leornard will be signing autographs for the first 100 fans. Stay for exclusive offers as the ‪#‎SFGiants‬ kick off the the 2nd half at ‪#‎ATTPark‬.

  17. zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 3:45 pm

    Looks like the Dodgers/Mets game is on MLB Network in a few minutes.

  18. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 23, 2015 at 3:45 pm

    Pirates make move for A Ramirez.

  19. Flavor said, on July 23, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    Bartolo Colon has played on 8 teams and I’ve got no recollection of him playing on 5 of them

  20. Flavor said, on July 23, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    watching Kershaw throw a perfect game on mlb network right now. I SAID I”M WATCHING KERSHAW THROW A PERFECT GAME ON MLB NETWORK RIGHT NOW!!!!!!! The fucking Merts suck, they haven’t hit a single ball that’s even been close to a hit.
    He’s through 5…..

  21. zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    Naturally Kershsaw is mowing down the pathetic Mets offense.

  22. Macdog said, on July 23, 2015 at 5:36 pm

    Kershaw vs. the Mets: This isn’t fair.

  23. djloo27 said, on July 23, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    And the joke that is major league base running continues…

    • Macdog said, on July 23, 2015 at 6:12 pm

      Who’s the dumb-ass picked off first?

      Duda, Duda.

  24. zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    RIP, 2015 Mets.

  25. Flavor said, on July 23, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    the Mets are so bad. Worst offense I’ve ever seen.

    • zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 6:52 pm

      So, Greinke’s working on a big scoreless inning streak….who does he get to face next?….

  26. zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 6:58 pm

    No Giants game tonight. There’s time for some walking to get some exercise.

    • xoot said, on July 23, 2015 at 9:04 pm

      yeah!

  27. djloo27 said, on July 23, 2015 at 7:08 pm

    Greinke left the team to be there for the birth of his child. Probably miss the Met series…

  28. unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2015 at 7:26 pm

    AK, when I was a kid (around 10) I saw an Astros game, and this old timer type behind me said, “watch the Astros centerfielder. His name is Jimmy Wynn. The Toy Cannon.” As a kid, who couldn’t love the nickname?

    Giants has a 7-2 lead that they ended up blowing no thanks to Wynn. He had a 2 run homer or something. But I always liked the guy after that.

    • djloo27 said, on July 23, 2015 at 8:44 pm

      I think you dreamt this.

  29. unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2015 at 7:27 pm

    Love that fricking Abbey Road thing. Never seen that before.

    • snarkk said, on July 23, 2015 at 8:59 pm

      Aren’t they going the wrong way compared to the album cover?

      • chipower9 said, on July 24, 2015 at 7:58 am

        Me, too. One of my favorite Beatle’s albums. And nope…same direction as the album cover.

  30. James said, on July 23, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    The Brandon Belt Guide to Hitting:

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Kid-Who-Batted-000/dp/B0007DWCHE

    • zumiee said, on July 23, 2015 at 9:01 pm

      Good find! I actually read this book as a kid in elementary school, and I still remember the basic plot of the book. I take it that you read it, too? The boy had an amazing talent to foul pitches off and he walks every time up that season.
      Then, in the big city championship game or whatever, in the bottom of the ninth, in a tie game, with two outs and no one on, or maybe a runner on second or third, he finally tries to hit a ball fair, but he’s having a hard time doing it, but
      SPOILER ALERT…..

      he finally hits a ball over the fence, barely fair, and it’s the game-winning HR. So he ends the season 1 for 1, with dozens of walks, with a batting average of 1.000, or as we say, 1,000.

      • James said, on July 23, 2015 at 9:22 pm

        Yep, I think I may have read it before I became a fan. It’s such a great conceit.

  31. willedav said, on July 23, 2015 at 8:17 pm

    Don’t forget J R Richard, man was he tough.

    So the Beane report card looks like this:
    2014 he had team in the WC playoff, with a lead late in the game vs. the eventual AL Champs, who played a very exciting WS down to the final out and….decided to play evil genius and blow it up, trading away a player acknowledged among top position players for WAR in all of baseball even though he wasn’t an FA, along with letting a few others that were walk, and his bottom line for this is dead last in his division 2015.
    So now he has started a fire sale and given up on this season entirely, trading his second best SP for guys one step above Single A ball, with more to come. How can anyone possibly be a fan of these guys?

  32. James said, on July 23, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    Quiz: What would the OPS of the Beatles be if all they did was walk?

    • pawliekokonuts said, on July 23, 2015 at 8:39 pm

      9 number 9 number 9.

      • James said, on July 23, 2015 at 9:26 pm

        Sooooo very close!

        Lurker John may be interested in this: If their OPS was in fact 999 and all they did was walk in every PA except to make the requisite 27 or 24 outs to complete a game, it would mean that in every game the Beatles would walk either 27,000 or 24,000 times. That is some serious offensive firepower! In the 9 inning games, the Beatles would score 750 runs an inning or 6750 runs a game — a hell of a lot of RBIs.

        But here’s where it gets interesting: imagine if they played a team of 9 Paul Goldschmidts, he of the 1059 OPS. Without doing the math, it is clear The Goldy’s would be hard pressed to deliver Beatles level run production, despite a *higher OPS*.

      • djloo27 said, on July 23, 2015 at 9:40 pm

        And on that note:

    • pawliekokonuts said, on July 23, 2015 at 8:56 pm

      Just caught up on your Basketball Diaries, James, and the exchange with Magnus last night. Did you engage her at all? I would’ve. Somehow. And, Blade, he’d be taking her to Siam and back.

      • James said, on July 23, 2015 at 9:32 pm

        Mrs. James would not have been down with that Pawlie, even though I’ll admit hitting 5 free throws in a row for her just doesn’t quite produce the same . . . frisson. Maybe if the vixen mom had a Giants logo emblazoned on her beekeepers mask . . . . 🙂

  33. xoot said, on July 23, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    most entertaining, most likable AL team? Houston. Nobody else is even close.

    • chipower9 said, on July 24, 2015 at 8:13 am

      Yep. Now this would not have been the case a few years back. But I sure like their make-up and direction now.

  34. snarkk said, on July 23, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    I was mulling over the Giants needs, and prioritizing. Starter? Pen arm that can get Righties and Lefties out? OFer? A bench/utility guy?
    I settled on bench/utility. This bench suxx. Adrianza? When’s the last time Arias played a full game — is he doing anything other than carrying suitcases to/from the bus and hotel? Maxwell is an OFer, but he’s part of the bench. Blanco is the only bench dude that’s played at least half ass this year. Better than I would have expected. But, give me a bench guy that can play a few positions, and can hit a lick. Please…

    • chipower9 said, on July 24, 2015 at 8:17 am

      Sounds like Zobrist to me. He can play the IF or OF. Only making 7.5 this year, so basically has half of that left. FA next year…seems like a quality inexpensive rental. His stats are not great this year, but if he could be had for a few minor leaguers…giddy the fuck up.

  35. snarkk said, on July 23, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    No surprise the A’s traded Kazmir. Zobrist will go soon. I don’t know whether to admire A’s fans for their patience, or rip them for stupidity to stay fans of that team. All about the future, but the future never comes…

    • snarkk said, on July 23, 2015 at 9:58 pm

      And WTF is Beane doing trading within his own division? He won’t trade with Sabean, but he’ll fortify division competition with a good arm? That’s nutz…

  36. willedav said, on July 24, 2015 at 7:14 am

    Snarkk, when the future comes Beane gives it away. Donaldson was a fan fave and top 3b in all baseball; the kid SS Russell was a top 5 prospect he traded for an expensive rental (samardz) he never intended to keep; Russell’s replacement Semien has made 28 errors already at SS; he dumped a power hitting OF and fan fave Cespedes for another rental (lester) he never intended to keep—list goes on and on.

    He had a team last year that was 5th best in entire league–his team, and he built it himself, is 5th in his own division. Outside of Gray and Vogt, there’s nothing to root for.

    Like him or not, lucky or good, Sabean has built a continued winner, while Beane continues to make teams of,
    Castles made of sand
    Melt into the sea
    Eventually

  37. unca_chuck said, on July 24, 2015 at 9:18 am

    Shit, Cespedes, for all his clubhouse foibles, was loved by the fan base. Donaldson was a major head scratcher as well. Like Beane was trying like hell to fix something that wasn’t broken.

    Beane gets all the accolades for being a genius, and sure, it’s tough to win in a shitty stadium with owners who are actively driving off what is left of the fan base, but Christ, the moves for a future that never comes is insanity.

    Love the Hendrix quote, Willie . . . One of my favorite songs.


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