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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 26, 2015

If Huddy can’t cobble together a productive start today, I don’t know where we are with him. Either way, a sweep of the A’s is looming.

Casilla is frustrating, but what closer isn’t? They all walk the tight rope. End of the day, he usually gets the job done.

Thanks for the kind words about the videos I posted. I figured you “out of towners” would enjoy.

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  1. Flavor said, on July 26, 2015 at 9:38 am

    Hardball Stats ‏@HardballStats Jul 24
    Barry Bonds hit .296/.455/.572 with a 1.027 OPS, 13 HR, & 49 BB against the 2015 HOF inductees (P. Martinez, J. Smoltz & R. Johnson).

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 26, 2015 at 9:48 am

      Good one Flav. Were i one of those spraypainting kids and living anywhere near Cooperstown i’d be very most tempted to make up a cardboard template with your stats on it, buy a can and tag the museum. The HOF is becoming ever more a farce.

  2. Flavor said, on July 26, 2015 at 9:46 am

    can someone explain why Craig Biggio made it into the HOF?

    • djloo27 said, on July 26, 2015 at 9:48 am

      Classic “compiler” (3,000 hits)…

      • Flavor said, on July 26, 2015 at 10:03 am

        I stare at his career stats and just get underwhelmed.

    • Macdog said, on July 26, 2015 at 10:10 am

      And, Biggio’s the all-time (modern era) leader in HBPs!

    • wilcojoe said, on July 26, 2015 at 10:17 am

      Really Flav? 3000 hits. 5th all time in doubles. Most doubles ever by a RH. Played gold glove caliber at C, CF, and 2b. I still feel Kent should have been in ahead of Biggio, but both to me are no-brainers.

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 11:34 am

      I have no problem with Biggio in there. If he had played with the Yankees, he’d have a statue and be in the HOF the first ballot. Plus, they needed an Astro in the HOF, I don’t think there are any before him…

  3. djloo27 said, on July 26, 2015 at 9:46 am

    Cueto to the Royals…

  4. djloo27 said, on July 26, 2015 at 10:14 am

    Thinking of Pagan’s homerless streak, the excellent Al Oliver went homerless as a Giant in ’84 as part of an approximate 650 PA homerless streak…

    • sandog said, on July 26, 2015 at 10:50 am

      …but he made up for it with flawless defense at 1B!

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 12:25 pm

      Al Oliver, Rennie Stennet, Rob Andrews, Johnnie LeMaster, Dave Bristol, Joe Altobelli, Damaso Blanco, Dave Heaverlo, Fred Breining, Renie Martin, John Boccabella, Guy Sularz, Andy McGaffigan, Ed Goodson, Horace Speed, John Tamargo, Joe Pettini, Al Hargesheimer, etc, and on and on.
      How did those of us mossbacks ever survive being fans of this organization to enjoy the fruits of the last 5 years?…

      • Lurker John said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:45 pm

        Loyalty baby.

  5. alleykat69 said, on July 26, 2015 at 10:29 am

    Never forget Randy Winn’s 2 HR year in 2009 in 600 AB’s ,when most every Flapper wanted Nate Scheirholtz in RF.Yet the Bocher stuck with his washed up vet all year, kinda like what he did with Posey, sticking with Big Titty’s to long till the trade..

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 12:20 pm

      I would have enjoyed the ’09 season a lot more if I could have known what 2010 was going to bring. 🙂

  6. willedav said, on July 26, 2015 at 10:37 am

    Flav, I do think the longevity and consistency is important, esp for someone who spends entire career in NL without being able to DH. 20 yr career avg. of .281 with .796 OPS.
    In other words, imagine Panik does the same thing he’s doing right now until he’s in his 40s…nothing spectacular but just consistently good smart hitter, for 20 yrs. Does take something special in terms of skills and being able to adjust that separates the best from the rest.

    • alleykat69 said, on July 26, 2015 at 11:28 am

      Agree Willie,
      A guy like Joe Panik who could put up consistent .300 BA years, makes his shares of All-star games, throws in some GG, could easily make the HOF..
      I see a lot of Wade Boggs in Panik, with possible more HR power, cause Boggs only had 118 career HR’s, but was a double machine , with his 200 + hits every year. Yeah I’m setting the bar high on the kid, but why not?He’s a special hitter already, with a good chance to win multiple batting titles like Boggs did…

  7. Macdog said, on July 26, 2015 at 10:47 am

    Mets have scored against Greinke!

  8. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    Nice speech by Biggio. He was a terrific player, but I have to admit I have no real memories of him as a player. I know I saw him play a number of times vs. the Giants, but nothing stands out in my memory about him.

  9. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    Smoltz talking about the Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz rotation….yeah, pretty great, but one World Series championship. One.

  10. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    Lurie on KNBR interviewed this morning the great Ann Killion of the Chronicle. About the HOF installations today. She has a HOF vote, which is an abomination; like asking a podiatrist to do brain surgery. She is indicative of why the HOF is a joke. Two years ago, she published her HOF ballot, voting only for 4 players. Left 6 ballot positions blank. She’s always had a hate going on for Bonds, obvious in her writings. She must know somehow that those she votes for never used PEDs. But, this is the kind of voter you have for the HOF. Personal stuff coloring the votes, and only 4 players in one year are good enough, when 10 votes are possible? Baggarly has always said he agonizes over the 10, that it’s not enough spots. I would give any one of the regular Flappers here a HOF vote, take it from the one wasted on Killion and similar “expert” writers. Each Flapper would do a better, more diligent, baseball-centric job than hacks like Killion…

    • blade3colorado said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:03 pm

      Excellent post . . . Agree completely.

  11. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 12:49 pm

    Mets closer blew the save. 2-2 now.

  12. unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    Yeah, the Braves won 16 division titles and 1 WS? Fuck that. Like Peyton Manning, you get in that much, you should do more with it.

  13. unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2015 at 12:52 pm

    If you leave 6 spots blank, you should be immediately removed from the voting process. Forever. That is idiotic in the extreme.

  14. unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2015 at 12:57 pm

    Killion’s one of the brainiacs that came down hard on Lacob for firing Mark Jackson.

    She’s also in full roast Jed mode. Sure, the Niners may end up sucking this year, but they would have sucked WITH Harbaugh as well. One more year of intra-office fireworks? Another year of that uninspiring offense?

    She’s of the mind that Willis’ toe and Borland’s head would be OK to play because Harbaugh stayed. That Gore wouldn’t have taken the 3 year deal or Cully/Cox wouldn’t have left. Poppycock I tell you.

    End of rant.

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:07 pm

      Rant on. There are other women commentators/writers in sports with something valuable to add to the mix. She’s not one….

    • blade3colorado said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:04 pm

      Agree. Good post Chuck.

  15. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    Randy Johnson only briefly mentioned his time in Arizona, with no mention of any specific players or Brenley. Ouch. A little bad blood there?

  16. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    Maybe Killion’s bitter because the Giants were winning 3 in 5, and she was stuck mostly covering the A’s.

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:10 pm

      I think Bonds dissed her on more than one occasion (wow, how unique she was among media members), and she’s gone out of her way to respond in kind in print or on live media whenever possible…

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:18 pm

      Susan Slusser covers the A’s for the Chron, zum. Killion flits from one sport to another as commentator, I believe. Slusser is another one who apparently can divine who has/has not used steroids in her HOF voting. She has revealed she’ll not vote for Bonds, due to the steroids. I asked her that directly once on her blog, how she knew who was a user and who wasn’t. The response was something like, well, where’s there’s smoke there’s fire. Let’s hope these two ladies aren’t ever on criminal juries, since they apparently know what happened before seeing real evidence of innocence or guilt…

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:26 pm

      Killion made news herself, selected as voting one of the worst, most inexplicable HOF ballots…
      http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/2014-s-worst-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballots.html

      • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:34 pm

        Cool article, thanks. Cool website.

  17. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    The Duffman! This dude is in the hunt for ROY, seriously. If he played in LA or NY, he’d be a headliner on ESPN…

  18. Lisle Ellis said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:21 pm

    Oh, oh, … the dreaded 2 run first inning lead for the Giants!

  19. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    Friggin Belt, only knocked in one RBI on that single…

  20. Macdog said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    Bury Graveman!

  21. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    Good thing the Giants have gotten an early lead. With Huddy, they’re probably going to need it…

  22. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    Uribe has a chance to hurt the Dodgers.

  23. Macdog said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    Uribe beats the Bums!

  24. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    Uribe!!

  25. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:39 pm

    Good article by Baggs on the HOF, Bonds, and the love/hate deal between him and the Giants. http://blogs.mercurynews.com/giants/2015/07/25/extra-baggs-forget-the-hall-of-fame-its-time-for-giants-to-retire-barry-bonds-number/

  26. willedav said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:39 pm

    Yeah nice, off jansen too.

  27. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    I’m impressed with the way the Mets came back and won the final two games of their series against the Dodgers. The Dodgers won the first two games easily, and pretty much embarrassed the Mets. Some of the Dodgers were yukking it up during the first two games, and having a good ol’ time, and you could sense a little irritation from the Mets broadcasters about that.

  28. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    Big play from Granderson, too, stretching a long single into a double, setting up the inning. Good, solid ballplayer.

  29. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    Duffman again with the knock and RBI !!!
    Casey who?…

  30. unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    No Shit. Man, just started watching. missed the bomb.

    Mahalo indeed. Got our floors in yesterday, Yay! Place is starting to look like a house and not a disaster area.

  31. Bozo said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    Way to get that run back.

  32. willedav said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    Yeah, Killion’s disgusting. She was on a forum a year ago on CSN discussing HOF, just made zero sense and sounded totally lame alongside other Bay Area guys.
    And she has it in for Niners big time, totally unbalanced. She started in on the yard in July and never let up…still hasn’t, with a column on back up QB Gabbert with a couple more shots at Kaep.

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:13 pm

      Agree willie. Whenever I’ve seen her on those forum chat deals with other sportswriters, she comes off as totally out of her depth, as in, why is she there? It’s not a woman thing, either. Mindy Bach, for example, I think is very knowledgeable. Killion comes off as having little insight, writes for headlines and the dirt…

  33. Bozo said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    Cha, cha, cha. Keep the line moving.

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:52 pm

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:59 pm

        Fitting. Where did you come up with that one, Zooms?

      • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:00 pm

        I remembered that Bugs Bunny cartoon, and the Bing search engine found the gif.

  34. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:51 pm

    Duffy and Posey are locked-in hitting machines right now.

  35. Macdog said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    Hopefully this’ll be enough for Hudson.

  36. Carstie Clausen said, on July 26, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    Just about guaranteed that Duffster and Heston will be in the top 5 for ROY consideration. Wondering when some of those baseball pundits and poobahs will come to acknowledge the excellence of the Giants scouting and development people.

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:04 pm

      They’re putting themselves in the conversation. It’ll help their cause when it’s clear to the pundits the Giants are going to the playoffs.

  37. gianthead said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    Good time to be back from vacation…Uribe goes deep for the game-winner over the F-Heads of LA.

    I discovered a good cure for the 4 day All-Star layover..go on vacation!!!

    Only downside, my little guys could not get in to see Fenway…frickin Builly Joel concert….now let’s cut it to a game out.

    Any trade chatter while I have been gone? I still would like to keep Hamels out of the Dodger hands more than necessarily needing him or at least driving the price way, way up. I would not be displeased to get Cespedes’ bat as well. Loving the Duff-Man….

  38. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    Can these idiot fans stop leaning over the walls and trying to catch balls in play? Kick them out immediately, with prejudice, and take their beers away…

  39. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:21 pm

    This is where Hudson is dangerous, he gets in spots where he just can’t put guys away. Hopefully he can get Butler here and stop the bleeding…

  40. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    “If it hits you in the boiler, it’s over the fence.” Great line.

  41. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    What is Bochy waiting for, take him out…

  42. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:28 pm

    Ya had to figure 4 runs might not be enough with Hudson. What do we do with this guy? $12 million and it looks like he’s done. You can’t continue to just get 4 or 5 innings out of this guy, it kills the Pen. Maybe he bounces back and gets through 6 today with no further trouble, but I’m not betting on it. With a week to go before the deadline, I think they need to make a move with Hudson…

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:29 pm

      Totally agree.

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:58 pm

        Yup. Had the same thought before checking the blog. Some talk about Price if Detroit continues to wallow.

  43. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:28 pm

    Hudson: bleh. Nice guy, he had a nice career, but bleh now.

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:33 pm

      No way he could pitch in a playoff game against top competition…

  44. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:39 pm

    Why not put Petit in while the Giants still have the lead?…

  45. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    I think Bochy wants Hudson to go 5 so he has a shot at win 220, a nice round number to end a career…

  46. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    Bochy will probably let Hudson start the 6th inning. Yikes.

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:50 pm

      If so, he’s got a choke chain. One guy gets on, Huddy’s done. Hopefully, there’s no dinger…

  47. Carstie Clausen said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    At 80+ pitches Hudson has likely reached his limit. But the decision is Bochy’s. He usually has a pretty good read on hurlers and if there is any stumbling and staggering by Huddy he should jerk the chain toute de suite.

  48. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    Aoki reportedly will get back onto the roster tomorrow, so somebody has to go. Who? Arias? How can he be missed, since he’s apparently missing anyway…

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:59 pm

      Aren’t they at 13 pitchers right now? They could drop a pitcher, but I don’t know who that would be.

      • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:11 pm

        I think they need extra arms in the Pen, with the starters blowing their wads around inning 5 and 6…

      • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:16 pm

        Good point; I’m starting to think Maxwell is the one to go when Aoki comes back.

  49. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    Bochy is shrinking the leash on Hudson. Affeldt is coming in. Although….Affeldt’s having a rough season, too….

  50. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 2:58 pm

    Wow, Bochy makes the hard choice. Huddy out, Affledt in. Why is Petit not brought in, he’s the long guy. No wonder when he gets in, he’s not too good, he doesn’t get regular work…

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:01 pm

      Affeldt in a nail-biter? If he screws up this time it could be it. Maybe Bochy figures it will either (1. be a confidence booster or (2. the straw that breaks the camel’s back and (3 maybe thinks SF can afford it at only two out and the LaBumbos having been Uribed today.

      • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:09 pm

        Affeldt has earned a lot of capital with Bochy over the years. Bochy’s going to give him chances to get things right. But only to a point.

  51. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    Vogelsong and Petit have basically the same role in the bullpen, and Vogey does it better, so maybe Petit is on the hot seat. That seems kind of hard to believe. What a weird season for Petit. His role was never that clearly established from the get-go this season, and he just never got it going very well.
    The other option would be to send Maxwell down when Aoki comes back. I think the Giants will stick with two back-up infielders, even though they’re both pretty weak hitters.
    Maxwell represents some pop off the bench, though. And he plays solid defense.
    Tough decision coming up for the Giants.

  52. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    OK somebody explain that to me. Petit is the long guy. You don’t save Affeldt for a later inning when you need a lefty matchup, you put him into start the 6th, he’s in for two batters, then Kontos. I get that the A’s lineup is lefty heavy since Huddy started, but if you have a lead with 4 innings to go, isn’t that when your long guy comes in for 2 innings at least, if he can get it done? Seems Petit is only used when the Giants are getting pounded and are behind early…

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:12 pm

      I think Bochy is trying to work Affeldt into some less pivotal situations to get his confidence back

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:19 pm

        The two batter appearance for Affeldt may have been IT. Could be it will be “discovered” that his recovery was not quite as appeared and he’s back to the DL ~ OR he becomes a cost-protected throw-in on a trade along with a prospect for a warm body for the 25-man.

    • Flavor said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:17 pm

      Excellent point

  53. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    Maxwell not making a good case for himself there.

    • willedav said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:19 pm

      True, but he is good OF and could back up Aoki for late game D in LF if he’s not fully ready to play everyday.
      And remember, one of those back up IF is Out Of Options.
      I think the big thing is what happens with Pagan. If he goes on DL it’s moot, but if not idk. You can’t take leadoff away from Aoki, and Blanco is a better CF.

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:21 pm

      I think you’re right, Maxwell is on the DFA hotseat. But, what I would do is DL Pagan in exchange for Aoki, let Pagan’s knee(s) heal up from whatever is wrong, then bring him back and DFA Maxwell then…

      • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:23 pm

        Yeah, that’s a good point, you guys, about Pagan. A DL stint would be a good thing.

  54. willedav said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    Can’t stand the A’s, but I have a lot of respect for Melvin. Imagine having to learn guys all over again every flipping year, what they can do and struggle with, how to motivate them and keep them going, etc.
    And of course once you do have a find like Cespedes or Donaldson, he’s yanked out from under you.

    I think he’d be perfect fit for Giants, low key like Bochy but demands full attention and concentration while allowing some flexibility for the oddballs (like thong boy).

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:18 pm

      I agree, I wouldn’t mind seeing him take over the Giants when Bochy retires. Melvin’s an ex-Giant, there is that. Another ex-catcher, too. Wotus has a lot of experience, but with so many interviews and no manager job for him, you have to wonder what he’s not doing to impress…

      • willedav said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:25 pm

        Some guys are just better being the assistant. It’s easier to relate to players more and you don’t have to make the tough decisions, like Bochy has to do today with Hudson, when to use pen guys, writing a LU every single day (including getaway days), etc.
        The move from bench coach to head guy doesn’t work too well for some well respected baseball guys.

        Btw, whatever happened to Willie Randolph?

  55. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    Lots of different directions the Giants could go with the Aoki add-on.
    – DL Pagan
    – OOO to Sac
    – Petit to Sac
    – Maxwell to Sac
    – Hudson DFA (kidding, sort of)

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:30 pm

      Is Petit out of options? Probably. Somebody would probably claim him, so maybe not a very good idea.

      • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:34 pm

        I’m assuming you’d have to DFA Maxwell, he’s been around quite a while in the league. Assume he’s out of options, you couldn’t send him to Sac without exposing him to other clubs. Doubt many would be interested…

  56. unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:44 pm

    My take is, if Biggio is in, then Kent is overdue.

    Nice inning by Lopez.

    He’s doing better these days.

  57. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:47 pm

    “If you survive Pearl Harbor, you’re a gamer.”
    K&K are on a roll today.

  58. unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:47 pm

    Melvin and Black both struck me as guys who could take over when Bochy retires.

    Wonder how Decker’s doing?

  59. Carstie Clausen said, on July 26, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    Sometimes that conga line gets kinda lazy and we find ourselves in these extended nail-biters with the bullies having to go balls to the walls.

  60. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    Casilla….here we go….

  61. Lisle Ellis said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:03 pm

    Fuckin Casillia … useless prick!

  62. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    What the bleep was that dude thinking???? 🙂

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:08 pm

      Weird base-running.

    • Macdog said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:11 pm

      Too funny. When Smolinski got caught stealing, my wife said he was out — in perfect sync with Kuiper — “by 5 feet.”

  63. Macdog said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    Sweeeeeeeep the A’s!

  64. Bozo said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    Sweep that trash outta here.

  65. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    A’s run out of the inning and Casilla battled back.

  66. Lisle Ellis said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    Whew! .. ugh …

  67. Lisle Ellis said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    Now we gotta punk the brewsters … keep this roll goin’ … GO GIANTS!

  68. Macdog said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    It’s taken almost two months — since the Giants were 30-20 on May 29 — to finally get back to that high-water mark of 10 games over. A lot of crazy streaks, good and bad, in between, but it sure feels like this team is trending upward.

  69. Carstie Clausen said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    Yet another nail-biter, yet another “whew!”. One game outta first. Dogs may be feeling compelled now to add a frontline starter. They have three top prospects they are cozening. After Hamels’ no-no he could cost them two of em ~ or Puig plus maybe their third or fourth best prossy.

  70. blade3colorado said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    “Too funny. When Smolinski got caught stealing, my wife said he was out — in perfect sync with Kuiper — “by 5 feet.”

    Mac, your wife would love the Sherpas . . . Since the all-star break, a Rockies player has: 1) run blindly into an out on the basepaths; 2) jogged off the field from his defensive position after the second out of an inning; 3) made a poor judgment cutting off a throw from the outfield; and 4) walked the lead-off hitter during a game tied in the ninth inning after getting ahead two strikes in the count.

    For those of you keeping score at home, those errors were committed by Carlos Gonzalez, Ben Paulsen, Wilin Rosario and John Axford. Brain freeze does not play favorites. The Rockies not only stink, they cannot think. In short, the A’s are rocket scientists in comparison to Colorado’s lunk heads.

    • Macdog said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:28 pm

      Haha, nice. Rox are taking it all out on Cincy today. Andy Dalton must’ve thrown a pick-6. And that’s the last time I take Votto in MLB’s Beat the Streak — down 16-6 and he takes his 3rd walk of the game.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:36 pm

        Yeah, I have Blackmon, Paulson, and Bruce on one of my tourneys. Easily going to be a $100 plus day. Paulson especially has been unreal.

        Regardless, the Sherpas are on pace to lose 92 games. However, the Monfort brothers are laughing all the way to the bank. Why? Simply because the fans (or fans from other areas) keep showing up for the sunshine, women, and party atmosphere.

        I would love to own a business where no one likes the product but they keep buying it for some reason.

      • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:36 pm

        “sunshine, women, and party atmosphere.”
        You answered your own question. 🙂

  71. Macdog said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    A’s came in today with a Pythagorean record of 54-45, so that makes the sweep even more impressive.

  72. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:33 pm

    Casilla’s gettin’ the saves, but in a worrisome way. Brain trust has to be mulling over what Casilla is doing…

    • Lisle Ellis said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:01 pm

      Yes Snarkk, “worrisome” is exactly the right word.

      I gotta say, after hearing about the Cueto trade earlier today I was feeling kind of envious of KC and thinkin, damn, KC’s management is super serious about winning it all … KC doesn’t seem to have half the holes we have but there they are, committing the shit out of plugging them up … and just what the fuck are we doing other than sitting on our hands? Obviously, we have starting pitching issues, we have bench issues and a questionable closer. But we also have the 3 in 5 so that explains away everything and justifies doing nothing … until it’s too late.

      We’ve had a good run as of late but that should not be surprising: Phillies, Snakes, Pads, A’s we should be beating those teams. So, we shouldnt inflate our chest yet. After the Brewers (we should take 2 of 3) comes the gauntlet of serious competition in August … Then we will find out who we really are and where we’re at. I fear the news may not be good.

    • xoot said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:03 pm

      Susac, Beede and Arroyo for Chapman? Add another of the Richmond starters?

      • Lisle Ellis said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:08 pm

        That sounds good to me … I’d just like to see something, anything, that sends the message of let’s tighten things up a bit and get ready for this daunting August schedule.

      • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:37 pm

        I could go for that trade.

  73. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 4:50 pm

    Giants 11 out of last 12. If they can take the Brew Crew 2 out of 3, that’ll be a great prep of 13 out of 15 for a very tough August schedule. Brutal. Just stay around .500 for August, and they’ll be in decent shape for the stretch run against the division in September…

    • Lisle Ellis said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:06 pm

      Didn’t see your 4:50 post before I put up my 5:01 … I wasnt meaning to be redundant

      • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:25 pm

        If redundant were a problem, BF would throw us all outta here. Fuhgedaboutiit…

      • djloo27 said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:06 pm

        You can say that again…

    • giants54 said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:31 pm

      Yeah, I can’t get too giddy over beating all these sub .500 teams. But heck, philly swept the cubs. Nevertheless, Aug will be a stiff test. And Casilla needs to be sharper.

  74. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:33 pm

    Eric Stephen: “Uribe, who was traded to New York on Friday night, drove in the winning run to beat the Dodgers in three of their seven games this week, also helping Atlanta to wins on Monday and Tuesday.”

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:39 pm

      Thank you, Jazz Hands!

  75. snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    I read where a bone bruise, particularly in knees, can take many weeks to months to heal, and is quite painful. They should DL Pagan and switch in Aoki…

    • giants54 said, on July 26, 2015 at 5:58 pm

      Aoki is a given. Blanco in CF, Pagan to the DL is stbd..

      • pawliekokonuts said, on July 26, 2015 at 7:14 pm

        but Pagan has been hot this week….not so fast

    • Lurker John said, on July 26, 2015 at 9:56 pm

      Exactly what I was thinking, pawlie. He’s swinging a good bat right now.

  76. pawliekokonuts said, on July 26, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    I still stubbornly insist that Pedro Martinez is marginal at best for HOF. Maybe part of my reasoning is that Marichal is THE Dominican man, not Pedro. No comparison. At all. Biggio. As a knowlegeable fan I know (my brother) said with some hyperbole, “Who the hell is he? Never heard of him.” I think if your numbers are merely longevity-driven “compiler” numbers (Don Sutton is another compiler, and arguably Gaylord Perry, too), you should at least have been dominant in your era. That’s Pedro’s ticket, I guess, and was certainly Koufax’s. But if 3,000 hits is a gateway for Biggio, then whatever happened to 300 wins for a pitcher? That used to be an unwritten rule about HOF pitchers, I thought. Because Bob Lemon fell short of that, it kept him out for a long time. (I mistakenly thought he was at 299 wins. Nope. 207. Way to go, Huddy, to notch 220 today. But there goes my 300 wins theory out the window.)

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:12 pm

      3 Cy Youngs and a World Series ring helped his cause.
      And there may never be another 300 game winner. Pitchers don’t pitch deep enough into games on a regular basis anymore. Kershaw won’t get close to 300 wins.

  77. djloo27 said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:11 pm

    Never heard anyone complain about Drysdale as a HOFer. What’s so great?

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/drysddo01.shtml

    • pawliekokonuts said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:20 pm

      167 CG, 49 shutouts…..those days are gone, too.
      But weak winning percentage.

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:29 pm

      The 3-in-7 weighed big with the voters.

      • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:30 pm

        For Drysdale.

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:37 pm

      With his stats compared to Drysdale, Hudson is certainly qualified to be HOFer. And, I would have no problem if he did get in. IMO at last 5 players should get into the HOF every year, siimilar to what the NFL does. Five out of the thousands that have played the game over the last rolling 10 years is not a big number. The problem, of many, with the HOF today is that many of the dudes that are in want to pull the ladder up after they’re in — to keep the club as small as possible. That’s nonsense to me…

  78. zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    The one bright spot for the Red Sox this season: the rookie starting pitcher that pitched tonight, Eduardo Rodriguez. He looks legit.

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:37 pm

      He’s 6-3, with an ERA of 4+, mainly from one real bad game.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:41 pm

        One real bad and another fairly bad start, I recall; too early to say, in my view. (But I did not ever actually watch him.)

  79. pawliekokonuts said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:36 pm

    Why did Huddy last only 5 IP today? I guess that’s the new normal.

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:39 pm

      80+ pitches, and they were hitting ropes off him at the end. And, he threw a wild pitch letting in a run. Had trouble closing batters out, as per usual. Only one K, I think. More fly ball outs, way more, than ground outs, which is not good for a sinker ball guy. Bochy wasn’t going to risk the 4-3 lead heading into the 6th…

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:40 pm

      He wasn’t very good. Bochy did the thing we always wish for: he got the guy out early before the game gets lost.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:42 pm

        tnx, both of “youse” guys
        gnight

  80. djloo27 said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    He probably wanted to get him a win vs. Oakland, the only ML team he had never beaten.
    BFD…

  81. djloo27 said, on July 26, 2015 at 8:54 pm

    I loved Bunning, but he’s another questionable one. The vets committee put him in. I remember him sounding almost annoyed when he was elected. Said something about his stats being exactly the same as they were 20 some years ago…

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bunniji01.shtml

    • pawliekokonuts said, on July 26, 2015 at 9:05 pm

      agree; his no-no or perfect game or whatever it was against the Mets was part of it all

  82. djloo27 said, on July 26, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    Joel Osteen is talking about Jonathan Sanchez pitching a no-hitter in front of his dad!

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    • Macdog said, on July 26, 2015 at 10:39 pm

      Is he related to Claude?

  83. xoot said, on July 26, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    flipping around during the Tiger/RSux game I stumbled on a great short documentary, The Wrecking Crew, about the LA session musicians who played behind a million rock hits in the 60s. Check it out.

    • snarkk said, on July 26, 2015 at 9:46 pm

      I just saw the other day where Glen Campbell says he has Alzheimers. Damn…

    • zumiee said, on July 26, 2015 at 9:53 pm

      I’ve heard of the Wrecking Crew documentary and want to see it.
      And I think there’s one out about Glen Campbell’s last tour, too.
      I recently saw an excellent documentary about music being used in therapy for people with Altzheimer’s. It has helped some folks recover some lost memories and improve their quality of life a bit.

  84. willedav said, on July 27, 2015 at 7:35 am

    I believe longevity does count for something, altho Sutton I don’t think is HOF guy. Dominant in your era like Pedro was, and since his era was roid ridden, I think is fine enough. But if you can extend your high level of play for 20 yrs like a Paul Molitor I think HOF well deserved.
    Another reason Bonds should be there—he could still hit in his final season…probably still could today.

    That link from Snarkk on ballots, wow what a mess.

  85. chipower9 said, on July 27, 2015 at 9:29 am

    Great weekend…live local music at a couple of wineries Friday night and Saturday, and then sat on my ass and watched Los Gigantes sweep the Fucking A’s. Hudson makes history and now has a win against every ML team.

    And DuffMan continues to improve. Makes me think “Pablo WHO?”

    Cool videos from the previous thread, Flav. Saw your photos of the Truckee River…sad sad sad.

    Regarding the talk about Glen Campbell, yes he is in the later stages of Alzheimers. Gail and I recently watched the documentary “I’ll Be Me” that was put together by Glen and family to chronicle his last tour. Here is a clip from the description:

    “In 2011, music legend Glen Campbell set out on an unprecedented tour across America. They thought it would last 5 weeks instead it went for 151 spectacular sold out shows over a triumphant year and a half across America.”

    Great video. I remember hearing Glen Campbell on the stereo in our house (parents were fans). His final show in the video was in Napa, and it was sad…you can see the disease is really getting the best of him. I have been around folks with Alzheimers and it has to be one of the worst diseases, as the people are often in good physical shape, but the brain just wastes away…many times the person not even knowing their family and loved-ones.

    Brew-crew today…let’s keep this mojo working. One back of the Fucking Dodgers. Giddy up.

    Four in Six! Why not…
    Humm Baby, Let’s Do It Again!

  86. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2015 at 9:53 am

    The Stick video is very sad. The there is not there anymore. Insert frowny face.

    Biggio was a decent guy who played a long time. Kent had a much stronger presence in his prime. I don’t get how they vote the way they do. I get Koufax as he dominated in a pitcher-crazy era. Short career though. If that’s the criteria , a guy like Dale Murphy to me deserves it more than a Biggio type. Murphy was a beast for a good stretch of his career. A perennial MVP candidate. Or maybe he just beat the fuck out of the Giants all the time.

  87. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2015 at 9:54 am

    Did Big Unit go in as a Mariner?

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 27, 2015 at 10:04 am

      Diamond Back

      • zumiee said, on July 27, 2015 at 10:25 am

        The Hall picks which team they go in with, correct? To avoid choices made out of the player’s possible spite.

  88. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 27, 2015 at 10:32 am

    zum, I think you are right about the HOF choosing. I suppose there is some input from the player. Martinez and Marichal holding the DR flag was pretty cool.

  89. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2015 at 10:36 am

    Love the gravatar, Micah!!!! Don;t; know how long it has been there . . .

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 27, 2015 at 10:42 am

      Not long, chuck. Only since April 5th.

    • chipower9 said, on July 27, 2015 at 11:25 am

      Yeah, the gravatars do not show up on my computer here at work. Love the DuffMan logo on the knob of Duffy’s bats. Who needs a fucking Panda when you have the DuffMan!

  90. Bozo said, on July 27, 2015 at 10:43 am

    Flav, I just had a chance to see your videos. Thanks, man.

    Whenever I was going home to SF from the North, I’d get excited by the GG bridge. When I was coming from the East, it was the SF skyline that always got me. Both great vistas and SF all the way. But, coming from the South and seeing the Stick really fired me up. Granted, a majority of those times I was coming home from the airport and that I guess that added to it. But I will miss seeing it the next time I get to SF, it ain’t dere no more.

  91. zumiee said, on July 27, 2015 at 11:56 am

    As the trade deadline approaches, the Dodgers contemplate their starting rotation. Even with Kershaw and Greinke, they are still somewhat unsettled overall.
    “Brett Anderson hurt his ankle and Zack Greinke had a son, and the result was seven different starting pitchers used by the Dodgers in seven games. The week saw two Dodgers make their first major league starts – Ian Thomas was good, Zach Lee was not.
    The Dodgers have used 14 different starting pitchers this season, their most since 1952.”

  92. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 27, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    Seeing rumors that the Giants are looking for an ace caliber pitcher. With Cueto off the board that leaves Price and Hamels. Padres shopping Shields too. Do you think he qualifies as ace caliber? What would you give up for any of those 3?

    • chipower9 said, on July 27, 2015 at 1:08 pm

      Well, if they wanted a truckload of top prospects for Hamels or Price, I would look elsewhere…like Mike Leake of Cincy.

      Here is the breakdown on all four:

      Shields – 16 mil – 33 years old
      3.37/1.318 (lifetime)
      3.72/1.226 (current)

      Hamels – 20 mil – 31 years old
      3.37/1.318 (lifetime)
      3.72/1.226 (current)

      Price – 19.75 mil – 29 years old
      3.11/1.137(lifetime)
      2.31/1.09 (current)

      Leake – 9.78 mil – 27 years old
      3.90/1.28 (lifetime)
      3.78/1.181(current)

      If the plan is to sign the pitcher for a new contract, then cost and age-wise, I like Leake. And his numbers are not that far off from the “ace caliber” pitchers you mentioned.

      And I really do not want “Big Game” James. Just that nickname is enough to sour me.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 27, 2015 at 1:12 pm

        Agree with you on Shields. Really I would only want to see Hamels or Price.

  93. blade3colorado said, on July 27, 2015 at 1:02 pm

    IMO, we don’t have the necessary pieces in the minors that would interest teams holding onto Price, Hamels, or Shields. Teams trying to pry someone from our home grown infield are delusional at best, crazy at worse . . . Yes, this would also include Belt (no way, no how is he dealt in the middle of a pennant race). About the only way I see anyone being dealt for those 3 pitchers Dirt, is if Susac is dealt (who is on the DL), along with our best minor league pitcher (fill in the blanks).

    • chipower9 said, on July 27, 2015 at 1:09 pm

      I agree re: the pieces it would cost, and that is exactly why I suggest Mike Leake.

  94. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 27, 2015 at 1:11 pm

    Yeah, blade I would agree. They may as well keep Belt around as long as they can. That said, with the infield basically set for at least 2 years (IMO) the front office may be willing to sacrifice in other ways. It will take something like Susac, Arroyo, top level ML pitching (Beede?) just to start. Hamels has the salary to take on so maybe that takes Arroyo off the table.

    • zumiee said, on July 27, 2015 at 1:50 pm

      I’m OK with Susac, Arroyo, and Beede for Hamels. I don’t know if the Phillies would think that’s enough. Plus the Phillies already got burned trading for a young Giants catcher in the Pence trade.
      Hector would be a good enough back-up catcher for the play-offs, where a back-up catcher rarely plays anyway.

  95. Flavor said, on July 27, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    new thread

  96. unca_chuck said, on July 27, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    I heard Jef Samardsfgkjshdf’ in the mix as well. He’s not as expensivo as the others but I’m sure the White Sox want more than table scraps.


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