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Trade Deadline

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 30, 2015

The trade deadline has never seen anything like this. Deals coming together, a player crying on the field, that deal falls apart for….no reason? Reports are coming out this morning that there’s nothing wrong with Gomez’ hip. A whole lot of nothing going on caused all that nonsense.

I understand that protocol has always been to go over medical records and the player has to take a physical AFTER a deal is put in place. But maybe there’s a way to lessen the likelihood that a deal will fall apart? Like look over the medical records BEFORE you consummate a deal? That would seem pretty prudent to me.

Regardless, today should be interesting……

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  1. blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 8:00 am

    Moss dealt to the Cards, probably because Holliday is hurt. Always liked him in DFS against lefties when he was with Oakland . . . not so much against righties. Other than his lower then usual BA and OPS, he is doing what he’s done in Oakland – hit for power and knock in runs.

    • willedav said, on July 30, 2015 at 8:10 am

      I liked this guy too, esp for the power numbers he put up in Oaktown, not an easy place for HRs. I think he would have fit in SF too and hit better than what he is doing for Tribe.

      Blade, surprised you think Tex gave up too much. According to mlbtr. they dumped off an expensive contract in Harrison, who has been hurt a lot and Phils on the hook for this guy for $30 mil., which might have forced them to sweeten the deal. But ultimately they wind up with Hamels, cost controlled and legit ace for prospects.

      • Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 8:14 am

        Harrison is basically done, he was throwing 87 last week. Maybe he can reinvent himself but I think he’s having trouble pitching with his “new body”

    • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 8:27 am

      I don’t know if Harrison is “done,” as he is trying to build up strength from his surgery (spinal fusion). He got creamed against the Yankees recently, but in a start before that, he tossed six shutout innings against the Rockies. In that game, he showed what he’s capable of when healthy, scattering seven hits and a walk over his six innings of work. He was removed after 91 pitches as he continues to build up his stamina. The start was just his second of the season and only his eighth since the start of the 2013 season as he’s battled back from injuries.

      Regardless, the key to this deal are the 5 prospects:

      “Eickhoff, a 25-year-old righty, tallied a 1-0 record with a 2.70 ERA in two starts at the Triple-A level this year and had a 4.25 ERA and an 8.24 K/9 mark in 18 games at Double-A this season. The six-foot-four 240-pounder was a 15th round draft pick in 2011. Eickhoff throws a mid-90′s fastball as well as a curve ball and a change up. It’s possible his future is out of the bullpen.

      Asher, a righty, tallied a 3-6 record with a 4.73 ERA in 12 games at Triple-A after posting a 1-4 record with a 3.98 ERA in eight Double-A games this season. The six-foot-four 230-pounder was a 4th round draft selection in 2012. With a (low-90′s) fastball/slider/change up repertoire, the durable Floridian has a promising future.

      The next three prospects were all rated among the Rangers’ top five prospects, starting with Thompson, a six-foot-four 235-pounder, who posted a 6-6 record with a 4.72 ERA while striking out 78 and walking 30 in 87 2/3 innings in 17 starts at the Double-A level this year. The 21-year-old right-hander was a 2nd round draft selection in 2012. He is equipped with a pitching arsenal that features a low-90′s fastball, along with a nice slider and a change up that he’s working to refine. He was part of a trade that brought him from the Tigers to the Rangers for Joakim Soria last summer.

      Williams, a 21-year-old slugger had a .299/.357/.479 slash line in 97 games at Double-A this season. The six-foot-three 195-pounder was a 2nd round pick in 2012. Described as a “pure hitter”, Williams has great upside. The Texas native is said to have a strong arm and great athleticism. He can swipe some bags too, but has been successful in just 10 of 18 attempts this year.

      Alfaro, a 22-year-old Colombia native, has missed considerable time this season with an ankle injury. Prior to being sidelined, he posted a .253 average with five homers and 21 RBI in 49 games at Double-A this season. The righty batting youngster has considerable pop but needs to improve his plate discipline, as he strikes out a lot. Heading into the 2015 season, MLB.com listed Alfaro as the second best catching prospect in the minor leagues.”

      • Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:04 am

        my point was that he’s lost 6-7 mph off his fastball and that isn’t coming back. Whether he can reinvent himself, as I said in my previous post, we’ll have to see if he can do it

  2. blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 8:07 am

    Regarding Gomez, I think Alderson is using a convenient medical excuse to get out of this deal, which no one will argue with, because he realizes that the trade wasn’t all that beneficial to the Mets in the first place. Dunno . . .

    I like that Flores got emotional. IMO, it means he cares. I remember reading about Willie Mays being so distraught (crying at his locker) about not hitting when he was initially called up from the minors . . . and feeling that he had let down Leo Durocher. Not to worry, as Durocher had his back and told him to just play baseball and not worry about anything, as he was going to be the every day center fielder.

  3. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 30, 2015 at 8:26 am

    wiliedav, regarding your post on Aoki at the end of the last thread. If I remember correctly KC slotted him down in the order last year. At the pro level I really think the mental side is a factor in performance for a lot of guys so maybe part of why he’s been better this year is his return to the top of the order. If you google Nori Aoki and look at some videos you can see that he even had a theme song about batting 1st from his days in the Japanese leagues. Those Japanese fans sure are whacky but I’d love to go to a game there.

  4. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 30, 2015 at 8:57 am

    Price seems determined to test the free agent market at the end of the season. The Giants shouldn’t be giving up shit for 3 months of his services.

    • Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:04 am

      agreed

    • Macdog said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:21 am

      I’m not crazy about Price either. Talented, yes, but . . . there’s something a little questionable about a guy who gives up Jeter’s 3,000th hit and then signs related memorabilia.

      http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/6770027/david-price-memorabilia-deal-derek-jeter-milestone

    • chipower9 said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:10 am

      Yep…no fucking way I want Sabevans to even be barking up this tree. I still think Hamels was the best potential deal out there (because of the cost control and only three years left on his gig). Heard the Giants made a hard-run at Hamels but ultimately did not have the required pieces.

      Price or any of the other top FAs will get Lester type money. Fuck that. I still like Mike Leake as a potential fit for our team. He will be much less expensive than that top-tier group, and his numbers are not significantly different.

  5. unca_chuck said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:08 am

    Willie, per that las thread as well, some players just seem to do better in the Senior circuit. Will Clark didn’t hit as well when he went to Balt in the AL. When he came back to StL he started raking again.

    If my foggy memory serves me right.

    On a side note, I really wish Clark would have played one more year just for the shot at playing in our new (then) digs.

    • Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:16 am

      I guess. But he went out on top (.345 for Cards) and he did it on his terms. Two things most ballplayers don’t get to do when they leave the game.

    • Bozo said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:18 am

      Will went to Texas before Baltimore. He hit over .300 in his 6+ years in the AL. Not saying you’re wrong about hitting in the different leagues, but maybe you’re thinking of someone else?

      • unca_chuck said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:02 am

        Hence the foggy memory part. Shit, looking at his numbers, he didn’t really drop off. He was a 5 time all star in the NL but only once in the AL.

  6. xoot said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:14 am

    The Giants would have a lot of money to throw at Price this winter, if they liked what he did through October. (Is that the proper use of the subjunctive mood?) A swap of the old Vandy star for the latest would be ok with me. Take a look at Beede’s numbers in Richmond. I don’t know how you average 5 innings per start, 5 BBs per 9 IP, 4.95 ERA, rack up a poor SO/BB ratio and still have a WHIP under 1.2. Seems incongruous. Anyway, Beede ain’t no Sonny Gray.

    While checking in on the Tigers trade status I came across this description: “[Cespedes] is hitting .289/.320/.487 with 17 homers, and he recently went nearly six weeks without drawing a walk. He has hit four home runs in his past nine games and is slugging .545 in July.”

    6 weeks? There’s a Belt joke in there somewhere.

    • Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:17 am

      I’d be down with Price if we could keep him. Those non-California guys though. Most don’t want to stick around here. 99% of the time if comes down to scratch though. If we offered more than east coast teams, he’d stay.

  7. giants54 said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:24 am

    Giants have a lot of depth now in the minors, they could afford to give up a few for Price. Think they would happily give up Crick and a couple of other lower level prospects for Price. Definitely do that for a huge shot at 4 in 6. As Chi would say, giddy up!
    Recently Gary Brown Heath Hembree Edwin Escobar and now Crick….all top prospects…now????
    I remember people screaming at Sabean because he gave Pitts Tim Alderson for Freddy Sanchez. How did that work out for Pitt?

    • Lurker John said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:02 am

      Crick walks a ridiculous amount of batters. As long as he has those issues, I doubt his trade value would be very high.

  8. Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:27 am

    Price going to the BJ’s will be almost a win for us. Dodgers don’t get Hamels or Price, I can dig that.

  9. Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:43 am

    Blue Jays traded that homeless pitcher they have for Price. Shit, we couldn’t have come up with something better than a HOMELESS PITCHER!?!!?!?!?! lqtm

  10. giants54 said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:50 am

    Well, get it done with another Peavy (Leake) Scutaro (?) type deal. I’ve no problem with that.
    Standing pat might not be the worst thing either.
    Blue Jays have been buying and selling like crazy the past few years and …yet, still a .500 team. We’ll see how this pans out for them.

  11. unca_chuck said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:55 am

    Price to the BJs for top prospects Daniel Norris snd Anthony Alford . . .

    Happy the Dogs didn’t get him.

  12. unca_chuck said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:57 am

    Ahh, that’s right. He’s the dude that lives in his microbes, uh microbus.

  13. Lurker John said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:13 am

    Well, the Dog-ears only got Latos and that benefits the G’s as far as I’m concerned. Maybe they feel like they can stand pat with the starters they have now.

  14. unca_chuck said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:15 am

    Yeah, the chance to light up Latos more is a great thing.

  15. Macdog said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:21 am

    Why are the Tigers pulling the plug on the season? They’re only 3.5 games behind the 2nd wild card, that being the fast-fading Twinkies.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:00 am

      Mac, many are citing the fact that the Tigers payroll is too large and Price was going to command upwards (or more) of $200 million. They have at least 2, maybe 3 players that are making 30 million a year. Couple that with Soria also being a free agent next season – don’t be surprised if he is traded before tomorrow.

      • Macdog said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:40 am

        Thanks, Blade, although I’d still be PO’d if I’m a Tigers fan.

  16. Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:22 am

    Unlike years past, I feel like Sabean/Evans did about all they could do without being stupid. They’ll get somebody, probably bullpen help. Underwhelming yes, but definitely will fill a need

  17. Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:26 am

    For some reason, I follow Norris on twitter. Musta started following him after that story on him. Anyway, he just tweeted out that Brad Ausmus is his 2nd cousin. So there’s that. Dude is a goofball though, Jays must just not want to deal with that

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:05 am

      This just in. Sandoval is fat. Also, water is wet.

    • Lurker John said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:25 am

      Even though the Giants did make a earnest and competitive offer to Sandoval, the front office is looking pretty good right now. The dude is having a miserable season and there has to be some major grumbling in Beantown.

    • chipower9 said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:45 am

      Pablo WHO?

    • wilcojoe said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:53 am

      Didn’t Pablo say he was lookikg forward to playing for a team that wouldn’t judge him or give him a hard time about his weight? I can’t wait for a Boston scribe to call him out on this to his face. What do you have to say now Panda?

  18. Carstie Clausen said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:59 am

    Time to go on out and take a Leake.

  19. blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:15 am

    Funny line from this column w/link . . . http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/29/why-do-managers-wear-uniforms-anyway/

    and

    http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/style-points/201507/why-baseball-managers-wear-uniforms-lasorda-showalter-mlb

    “Some managers dress like their players — down to the very last detail. Showalter wears stirrups. Bobby Cox wore a cup and spikes for every game.

    “You never see a manager wearing actual cleats … It was hilarious,” says Adam LaRoche who played for Cox while with the Braves from 2004-2006. “It’s just his style. He went from playing right into coaching and managing and never took his cleats off.”

  20. zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:32 am

    Dodgers may be getting Alex Woods and Jim Johnson from the Braves. The Braves have lost their minds.

    • willedav said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:40 am

      Zum, J J is pretty awful isn’t he? That’s the guy Beane signed for $10 mil to be his closer a year ago that got booed out of town, right? He’ll be the next Brandon League for LA.

      • xoot said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:55 am

        Story that I think deserves to be preserved historically: When Johnson was really tanking in Oakland, his wife pitched in to help with a team charity drive–collecting canned goods for the homeless or some such at the entrances to the ballpark before a game. a’s fans in line berated her with loud, threatening, obscenity-laced insults before they moved on to take their seats in the E Coli.

  21. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:42 am

    Wasn’t J Johnson the pitcher blade was always trying to pawn off as healthy in FB a couple of seasons back? 🙂

  22. willedav said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:48 am

    I think it is significant (so far anyway) that LA hasn’t acquired anyone of note, esp pitchers.
    They seem ripe for the taking to me.
    And what would that mean for Mattingly?

    • Lurker John said, on July 30, 2015 at 1:04 pm

      I agree. Right now the Giants have more depth in their rotation than do the Dodgers, IMO.

  23. unca_chuck said, on July 30, 2015 at 12:05 pm

    I’m surprised he’s lasted as long as he has.

  24. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 30, 2015 at 12:07 pm

    Sandoval, Lester, Shields, Hamels, Price. While I would really only want 1 or maybe 2 of those players on the club, Bobby Evans is making a habit of coming up just short.

    • Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 12:41 pm

      I still think we get Shields in Aug when the Padres pass him through waivers……

      • wilcojoe said, on July 30, 2015 at 12:55 pm

        Agree. The non-contenders won’t chance it with that salary. That makes perfect sense.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 30, 2015 at 1:11 pm

        Perhaps. I just don’t trust a grown man that is known by a hypocorism.

      • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 1:32 pm

        I had to look that up. “A pet name.”
        Well-played, sir, well-played.

      • unca_chuck said, on July 30, 2015 at 3:01 pm

        Not if we’re ahead of the Dodgers.

    • chipower9 said, on July 30, 2015 at 1:26 pm

      Thank goodness we “came up short” on all of those, except perhaps Hamels (only because the duration of his contract is three years, and at a price much less than the majority of the others).

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 30, 2015 at 1:29 pm

        Yeh, I think the club won by losing for the most part. I hadn’t thought about Shields as Big Flavor mentions. I could see that happening. Maybe Cain shows some consistency. The Giants need more than Bumgarner and Heston to go deep in the PS.

  25. Macdog said, on July 30, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    Only The Mets. After a 44-minute rain delay with a 7-5 lead, they were 1 out away from a win. Two singles and a 3-run HR by J. Upton later, Mets are down 8-7 — and stuck in another rain delay.

  26. zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 1:23 pm

    My “Atlanta has lost their minds” comment was more about Wood than Johnson, although I think more highly of Johnson than y’all. I’m just surprised that Atlanta has decided to push their rebuild timeline back even further. Atlanta was talking about Wood like he was a key building block, like he was going to be their Matt Cain, first piece in a new era of the team. Man, Freeman’s gotta be wanting out of there, big-time. My wife, the Braves fan, LOVES baseball, but she’s stopped watching their games this season. She’s gotten into watching international soccer (!) on the Fox Sports channel. She still watches the occasional Giants game with me. 🙂

    • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 3:04 pm

      Contrary to what Dirt said, I would never “palm off” a fantasy league player (such as the studly Johnson) to a Flap brother, unless the player was unquestionably healthy.

      . . . hehehe 🙂

  27. zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 2:24 pm

    If nothing else, it was a big honkin’ trade as far as the ‘amount’ that got traded:

    “The Dodgers received pitcher Mat Latos and first baseman / outfielder Michael Morse and cash from Miami, plus pitchers Alex Wood, Jim Johnson, Luis Avilan, and Bronson Arroyo and infielder Jose Peraza, and cash from the Braves.
    The Braves got infielder Hector Olivera, pitcher Paco Rodriguez and minor league pitcher Zachary Bird from the Dodgers, and the fifth of six picks in Competitive Balance Round A in the 2016 MLB Draft from Miami.
    The Marlins got minor league pitchers Jeff Brigham, Kevin Guzman and Victor Araujo from the Dodgers.
    Arroyo, recovering from Tommy John surgery in 2014, is on the 60-day disabled list, so he won’t take up a 40-man roster spot.”

    • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 2:36 pm

      Hector Olivera is 30 years old, so I’m not sure how that fits into Atlanta’s rebuilding strategy. He’s a Cuban player who will, potentially, be a really good MLBer, but that’s never for sure.

  28. unca_chuck said, on July 30, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    Pretty cool article about the fight heard ’round the world, nearly 50 years ago.

    http://deadspin.com/what-baseballs-most-famous-brawl-photo-didnt-show-you-1625569916

  29. unca_chuck said, on July 30, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    And the video

  30. unca_chuck said, on July 30, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    The next video is 10 best fights. No 1 is the Pads and Braves, in it are Craig Lefferts, Norm Sherry Champ Summers, and Tim Flannery.

  31. Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    Los Angeles DodgersVerified account
    ‏@Dodgers
    Designate RHP Brandon Beachy, OF Chris Heisey, IF/OF Michael Morse and RHP Chin-Hui Tsao for assignment. (4/4)

    • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 4:40 pm

      That team is like Grand Central Station. And LOTS of money being eaten by that team this season.

      Sad for Morse. What a sad ending to his career. He’ll always be a huge Giant because of 2014, though.

      • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 4:42 pm

        Maybe somebody ends up with Morse on waivers? Well, maybe he’ll finish with some dignity somewhere.

  32. blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 4:44 pm

    As I indicated to Mac earlier today, Soria dealt to Pirates.

  33. Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    Gomez just got traded again. I bet somewhere in New York, Flores just flinched like a motherfucker.

  34. wilcojoe said, on July 30, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    Wow, Astros just went all in. Traded for Carlos Gomez and Mike Fiers. They gave up two really good prospects, but none of their core talent from the current 25 man roster…Giants-Astros world series, here I come!!!

    • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 5:03 pm

      You or Flav have a site with details? ESPN and Yahoo are eating someone’s exhaust.

      • wilcojoe said, on July 30, 2015 at 5:13 pm

        The Astros just announced its official on their telecast. I caught it on mlbtraderumors.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 5:14 pm

        Thanks Joe . . . Caught up.

  35. blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 5:14 pm

    “Brewers general manager Doug Melvin, manager Craig Counsell and Gomez himself declared Gomez healthy Thursday, one day after a trade to the New York Mets was reportedly nixed at the last minute when the Mets balked due to issues with Gomez’s hip.

    “In the last month I’ve played every day,” Gomez said Thursday afternoon. “I’ve missed one game because my manager gave me a day off. I have no problem. I’m playing and I feel really sexy.”

    This is how I feel every day too. 🙂

    • giants54 said, on July 30, 2015 at 5:20 pm

      Puig probably adores this guy.

  36. wilcojoe said, on July 30, 2015 at 5:25 pm

    I didn’t realize how little Carlos Gomez makes. It’s almost Bum like.

  37. wilcojoe said, on July 30, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    This could be a much better deal for the Brewers than yesterdays Wheeler trade. Phillips is a stud. I am not as high on Santana as Preston Tucker and I don’t know much about the other two but they were both top 20 prospects in the system.

  38. alleykat69 said, on July 30, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    Man I wasn’t mentioning Fiers the other day, who has a dirt cheap contract and controllable for a few more years. Just the type player Sabes/Evans you would of thought would like for added depth in ..
    Nice move by the Astros , adding Kazmir, Fiers, and Gomez who obviously checked out fine in Houston, but not in NY, LOL

    • Flavor said, on July 30, 2015 at 5:39 pm

      Gomez was always fine. The Met owners got wind of the extra 9 mil they were on the hook for and told Alderson to nix the deal. Yes, they are that broke.That’s mostly on Alderson for not checking with his owners but it’s a complete embarrassment on all Met sides…….

      • wilcojoe said, on July 30, 2015 at 5:52 pm

        Yeah, Met fans are pissed. I said the other day I would pay to see a Hard Knocks version of the MLB trade deadline wheeling and dealings. That would be great TV!

      • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 6:10 pm

        Mets are probably still hurting from the Madoff fiasco.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on July 30, 2015 at 7:46 pm

        wilco, yeah, that’d be worth watching

      • pawliekokonuts said, on July 30, 2015 at 7:52 pm

        I think the Mets got a lot back from the court-appointed trustee. Awful owners.

  39. zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    Not sports-related, but Denver-related, and recent news headlines-related, so I thought maybe Blade, in particular, and others might find it of interest, if they haven’t seen it already. It’s a very well done animated film that lasts a few minutes, and depicts a traffic stop that turns abusive. It’s a true story.
    http://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/399509/i-was-almost-another-dead-black-male/?utm_source=SFFB

    • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 7:24 pm

      It has a 15 second ad at the beginning.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:15 pm

      I just got in Zumiee and watched this . . . Very powerful, especially when they cut from the credits and showed what this young man looked like after he was beaten up by the police.

      I’ll be frank – you have to be very careful in Denver (and the surrounding cities/suburbs of Denver metropolitan area), as there have been many instances of police brutality. For years, many have been swept under the rug, but I think more and more, police are being held accountable. However, this is only my perception and I could be wrong.

      Thank you for sharing.

  40. pawliekokonuts said, on July 30, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    You would think some day journalism schools will study the Brewers-Mets-Gomez-Wheeler-Flores debacle as a laboratory on how NOT to manage information. It’s worth at least an SI.com investigative report.

  41. pawliekokonuts said, on July 30, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    Did you know that Grand Central Station, technically, is a post office and Grand Central Terminal is a train station, tho’ colloquially “everyone” calls the commuter hub Grand Central Station.

    • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 7:53 pm

      I did NOT know that. 🙂

  42. pawliekokonuts said, on July 30, 2015 at 7:51 pm

    The fecking Dodgers are like day traders before the dot com bubble burst.

  43. pawliekokonuts said, on July 30, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    who has the hypocorism? new word for me

    • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 8:31 pm

      “Big Game” Shields.

  44. zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    The Dodgers find some extra payroll money in the desert.

    • snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 8:59 pm

      Breaking Doghair…

    • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:21 pm

      Snarkk’s right . . . That GIF is from Breaking Bad. Classic scene.

  45. snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    Giants, throw me a bone. Make a move for at least some bench help…

    • Paul Sorensen said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:03 pm

      Yeah…. I’m never a fan of making a move just to make a move, but right now, I’m feeling like I’m back on the playground in 5th grade and everyone else has been picked for recess games except me…. :-p

  46. snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    Bone thrown.
    Leake to Giants for two minor leaguers, yet unknown…

    • snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:32 pm

      One now known.
      Keury Melia, RHP out of San Jose Giants.
      21 YO out of the Dominican. Mid 90s fastball with solid MLB potential, other pitches need work, some shoulder issues…

      • alleykat69 said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:44 pm

        He was the Giants #1 pitching prospect, but screw it so was Zach Wheeler at one time!
        I’m all in getting Mike Leake who’s really pitching well right now, and hell a good hitter to give Bum some competition…
        Great move Giants for the stretch drive, could be the end of Huddy’s time ..

    • djloo27 said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:35 pm

      Excellent!

  47. djloo27 said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:40 pm

    He can swing the bat, too…

    • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:05 pm

      Also, is a good fielder. Excited about him coming here Loo.

  48. snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    According to Flemming, Doghairs eating $43.5M is all their DFA action, including Morse. Sheezus…

  49. giants54 said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    Mella and Duvall…not bad at all.

    • snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:47 pm

      Yeah, anybody in A ball, highly touted or not, is a crapshoot to make the majors. Duvall was not going anywhere with the Giants with Duffy at 3rd. He just might do well at the Reds’ bandbox. I’m down with this deal. Giants needed another starter. Solid move, and they can probably sign the guy, too…

      • djloo27 said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:49 pm

        They almost have to – bet they will…

  50. mrsprtdude said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    Yay Leake. Does this mean the end for Voggy and Timmy? I’m thinking TL spends all of August on the DL, then September as a high priced fan favorite cheer leader. Tough end for him. His dominance in the playoffs in 2010 is at the top of the list of my favorite memories as a Giant fan. SF 2010 WS champs because of him.. My 2nd favorite Giant to root for behind only Will the Thrill…

  51. djloo27 said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    Saturday could be the last time the Giants ever use a starting pitcher named Tim…

    • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:58 pm

      Great news on the Leake trade. Very exciting!

      Yeah, I don’t see a roster spot for either Tim, other than in September. And no playoff roster spot for them. It’s a tough thing, but the Giants can’t afford to get sentimental about it. Vogey and Petit are better coming out of the bullpen than either of those two. Strickland has to stay with the big club. He’s a power arm they need out of the bullpen. Kontos has been their most dependable reliever.
      Of the Core 4, Affeldt is the shakiest these days, but he makes the cut because he’s a lefty.

  52. mrsprtdude said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    Shit. Carlos Gomez on my NL only fantasy team, and qualified at 2nd after a one inning stint early in the year. Grr. Stupid F***ing Mets.

    Anyone else on board with grabbing Morse as a pinch hitter?

  53. blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    Yankees and Blue Jays get beat out for Leake, who’s raised his value by being one of the best pitchers in the game in July. Leake is 9-5 with a 3.56 ERA, but in July he’s 4-1 with a 1.25 ERA.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:52 pm

      Tip my hat to SabEvans

  54. alleykat69 said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    Keeping Susac is a bonus!!
    Gonna need him going forward..

  55. James said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:56 pm

    Dirt, a couple of years ago, I was invited to give a talk in mid-March at a Japanese university in Tokyo. The trip was a brief 5 days. I checked to see if there was a spring training schedule, and sure enough there were a slew of pre-season games . . . none of them in Tokyo, probably because the World Baseball Classic was happening that week.

    After giving the talk (wish I’d had a translator as facile as Nori Sensei’s :-)), I took the train to Kyoto, and then abandoned the temple touring for a day trip to the Osaka Dome. The Giants were also playing in Osaka that day, but it was raining and the game was against an opponent with an outdoor ballpark. Every bit as weird as you’d expect, probably made more so because the Osaka Dome is just about the worst indoor stadium imaginable. The flag waving and incessantly loud chants and cheering, the pervasiveness of the slap hitting that has revolutionized Gregor-San’s offense, all add up to . . . I ate my Takoyaki and left after 3 innings with some documentation on my iPhone.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:09 pm

      Nice, James. I haven’t traveled to Japan yet but intend to.

      • James said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:32 pm

        I was at once made fortunate and cursed by a hospitality as unflagging as the chants at the game I went to. Every meal was paid for and none of the amazing dinners was under $200 a person. The game I went to, though, was the only time I escaped my handlers. No, we are not talking SE Asian style escorts.

  56. Macdog said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    The rotation just got Leake-y — and in a good way. Love it!

  57. djloo27 said, on July 30, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    Giants lit him up pretty good in game 4 of the 2012 NLDS at Cincinnati.
    None other than Pagan and Blanco homered off him.

    • Macdog said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:05 pm

      Might be the last time Pagan hit one out.

  58. blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    Leake’s only 27 . . . Dude was lights out in his last start against the Cards. If that dude pitches well in his next start as a Giants player – Sabean needs to speed dial Leake’s agent and get this fucker signed to a long term deal. He’s making $9.78 million this year.

  59. snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:05 pm

    Yeah, whither Huddy? DL? No way he goes to Pen, no room in the inn. Would be unfortunate to see him DFA’d, but could happen…

  60. James said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:05 pm

    Pretty good away numbers for Leake. Very nice trade indeed.

  61. Macdog said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    Baggs: Bobby Evans has already told Tim Hudson and his agent that he won’t be in the rotation.

    • James said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:10 pm

      Time for one of those mid-season retirements.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:11 pm

        Agree

    • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:11 pm

      Seriously? Brutal if true . . . but necessary.

      Wonder when the other shoe drops (the conversation with the other Tim). Would love to be a fly in Evans office.

      • alleykat69 said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:23 pm

        Maybe I can help Blade,🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝

  62. blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    Per MLB Trade Rumors . . .

    The 27-year-old Leake has spent his entire career pitching in one of baseball’s best hitting environments but has rattled off two and a half seasons of solid run prevention in spite of that fact. Dating back to Opening Day 2013, Leake has a 3.54 ERA with 6.2 K/9 against 2.2 BB/9. Leake’s never been one to miss many bats, but he’s posted a ground-ball rate of 50.1 percent in his career and paired that ability with solid control to overcome his hitter-friendly home park. A free agent at season’s end, Leake is earning $9.75MM this year and is owed about $3.6MM over the final two months.

    One would imagine that a move to the spacious AT&T Park would do wonders for Leake, who could see a nice boost to his ERA by making a drastic shift to one of the game’s more pitcher-friendly environments. Certainly, he’d provide the Giants with a regular does of quality innings; he made 64 starts in 2013-14 and totaled 406 2/3 innings in that time. He’s yet to miss a start in 2015 and is averaging 6.5 innings per game this year — an appealing benefit to a Giants rotation that has cycled through eight starting pitchers this season, only two of whom have an ERA south of 4.00.

    • djloo27 said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:12 pm

      He also played with Bochy’s kid or something way back…

    • Macdog said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:16 pm

      Yet another Giants pitcher making more this year than MadBum.

      • djloo27 said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:18 pm

        Disgraceful.

  63. snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    If Huddy DFA’d, no tears. The guy lucked out and hitched a ride on a star, got his ring, while helping a little in the playoffs. Not a bad way to finish a career, and he gets $13 million sendoff year. That’s not a bad deal. Hell, they can hire him as a coach, and he can hang with the team for the rest of the season…

    • djloo27 said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:19 pm

      Couldn’t agree more…

    • alleykat69 said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:35 pm

      Kinda like Scutaro’s send off as well..

  64. snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:19 pm

    Hopefully Leake works out, the signals are all good. Even if he doesn’t, I’m jazzed that Evans is IN THE MIX like a top revenue team’s GM should be. In it to win it. And, he must be answering his phone…

    • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:27 pm

      On quite a few levels, this trade is very satisfying . . . As AK said, we still have Susac (the 2 other guys I wont miss . . . Sheesh, I already forgot their names); then ditto what Loo said about this guys ability to hit – he can rake like MadBum (and also field, as I pointed out); excellent ground ball rate; other stats that are out of this world when you consider the bandbox he played in; and, the dude is only 27. I’m really hoping he does well and the Giants like what they see, so they can sign him to a long term deal.

      Last, but not least – got to give credit to Chi . . . He has been saying for quite awhile that the GMen should get this guy, so hat’s off to ya Chi. 🙂

    • alleykat69 said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:31 pm

      Really a steal to me.
      Leake is a solid innings eater who’s on a roll right now and pitching now in a park where it’s a graveyard for fly balls will only help his cause..
      Just can’t figure why the Reds even wanted Duvall when they have Votto& Frazier for the foreseeable future? Guess just a bench bat that can run into one occasionally..

  65. blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:20 pm

    Hey James . . . I had a layover of almost 3 hours at Narita International Airport in Japan a couple of years ago. Exhausted after a 14-16 hour flight from the States, so I went into one of their restrooms to clean up. Fast forward 2.5 hours later, I was about to board my flight and realized that my Oakley sunglasses were missing . . . Then I remembered where I left them. Restroom! I ran back to the restroom and they were in the same place I had left them – plain sight on a counter over one of the sinks.

    My conclusion? Japanese people are the most honest in the world.

    • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:27 pm

      Well, they’re behaving a lot better since….well, you know….

      • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:28 pm

        LOL

    • James said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:35 pm

      See related response above, Blade.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:42 pm

        $200 dinners. Yeah, Hong Kong is like that too . . . A friend of mine is going there and asked me for some advice. I told him 2, maybe 3 days max and then he should get the hell out of “Dodge” and head over to Saigon or Bangkok, where $200 will pay for 5 nights of dinner and women companionship too. 🙂

  66. djloo27 said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    Leake won’t be able to get his #44…

    • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:30 pm

      He can reverse the numbers . . . uhh, maybe that wont work.

  67. zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    The Giants could try to trade Hudson, and eat the vast majority of the contract, and get a couple of middling minor leaguers back, maybe. Sheesh, the Red Sox could even be interested.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:31 pm

      On the floor laughing Zum. Hilarious.

      • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:37 pm

        I have too much fun at the Red Sox expense, I know. I should be a better person. 🙂

    • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:35 pm

      Or the A’s. Do basically a give-away to Beane. Thanks for the memories, Huddy.

    • snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:36 pm

      I think they respect Huddy too much to do that to him…

      • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:40 pm

        Yeah, it’s a tough one. There’s no place for Huddy with the Giants now. But like you said, he’s got a ring now, and he made a lot of money with the Giants for these two years.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:44 pm

        Sorry. If he wants respect, he should just go online and log into his Credit Union account. Every 2 weeks, the Giants are depositing a lot of respect into that account of his.

      • snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:47 pm

        Tru dat, blade…

  68. snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:38 pm

    Doghairs probably not done making moves. After this Leake move to SF, they’ve got to counter with something. Giants clearly made this move to win the division, don’t want to chance another WC game…

    • zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:47 pm

      L.A. could probably throw a bunch of players together and go after Gray. I read a thing that said they were interested in Gallardo at one point, but who knows. They’d probably like to trade Guerrero. He seems to be an odd man out on the team these days, after having such a strong April. He hit a bunch of homeruns and then disappeared onto the Dodgers’ bench. It’s kind of weird. I guess they didn’t like his defense or something else about him.

  69. alleykat69 said, on July 30, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    Leake will have to rack his brain for a jersey number .
    44 definitely is out, some guy named Willie “Stretch” McCovey
    8 his college number at ASU is “Hunter Pence to the fence”won’t happen either..

  70. snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    A’s v. Giants fan comparison.
    The A’s fans on the other radio station were talking about the current topic — do Reddick and Vogt prefer to get the hell out now and go to a winner? Answer — probably hell yeah. Meanwhile, Giants fans are talking about how this Leake deal solidifies the rotation for the stretch run…

  71. zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    Well, this is setting up to be very interesting last months of the season. I’m sort of getting a little bit of that ’93 feeling, as it was between the Giants and the Braves. The bummer of that season, of course, was no Wild Card. But it just feels like the Giants and Dodgers may have an epic battle for the division the rest of the way.

  72. mrsprtdude said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:22 pm

    A great pickup for this year AND next. Our rotation had 2-3 huge holes depending on Cain. Optimistically we now have 4 spots in the rotation filled. Gmen have good recent history of filling the 5th spot if Peavy can’t hold on in 2016.

    • snarkk said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:32 pm

      Beede will have a shot in ST at making the rotation….

  73. zumiee said, on July 30, 2015 at 11:43 pm

    On the Giants’ Facebook page, a fan posted their idea for a newspaper sports headline:
    “Giants Take Leake.”
    There’s no way a newspaper would run that headline. 🙂

  74. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2015 at 10:52 am

    Wonder if Puig is on his way out.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-trades-puig-20150728-story.html

    Doubtful but it’s possible.


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