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Win Day

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 5, 2015

I won’t call this game “must win” but it is definitely “should win.” We’ve got Red Ass going vs someone named “Williams Perez.” I don’t know much about this guy other than his Yahoo player pic suggests he’s a man who enjoys a good buffet.

It would be nice to go into Chicago with a little momentum.

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  1. gianthead said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:02 am

    Flappers, my boys and I ate headed down to Richmond to catch a Flying Squirrels game. We get to see this Matt Gage pitch. Got moved up to Richmond I think from San Jose and sporting a 1.51 ERA. Big Hoss is 6’4″ 240 lb lefty. Think he was only a 10th round pick in 2014 but a 6’4″ lefty you don’t see much.

    Not much in the way of hitters that I see on the roster. Funny that the team’s Web site features Joe Panik, who played there two years ago. Will report in…

    • gianthead said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:03 am

      Hopefully we don’t eat Richmond…sorry about typo…

    • xoot said, on August 5, 2015 at 10:01 am

      The San Jose Giants still have photos of Panik and Posey and Belt at the park and on the website. The regular SJ fans remember them well.

    • Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 10:05 am

      Very cool. Update after game! Pics to me

  2. Lurker John said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:09 am

    I don’t know if you guys talked about this yesterday, but Adrian Beltre hit for his 3rd career cycle a couple of games ago. I thought that was pretty amazing. Hitting for the cycle has to be among the rarest of baseball occurences and I think I read 3 in a career hadn’t been done since the 1930’s. I got to see a lot of AB while he was with the Mariners, and though he was coming from the Dodgers, I really came to like the guy. Excellent fielding third baseman, a fine hitter and an upbeat guy. He was always a fan favorite here.

  3. giants54 said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:16 am

    put it in the damn well better win category..

  4. Carstie Clausen said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:22 am

    Texas must have had some excellent video on Bumgarner and a great game plan going into it. Further into the game he got his act together but the damage had already been done. Today would be a perfect time for that Carolina boy to show the Georgians a thing or two. Be nice if he can go 7 or 8 this evening. The bullies need a break before the Chi-town bandbox ~ particularly Kontos. He must be running on fumes.

    No worry about the hitting. Even without Panik they are a force to be reckoned with. In every category save for HR’s they are well up on the leader boards, now leading the NL in OBP as well as base-hits and in the top five in virtually every metric.

  5. chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:28 am

    The only “must win” game is an elimination game, but from this point forward…they are all very important, especially this month playing the likes of the Cubs, Stros, Nats, Cards, Bucs, and Cubs and Cards again (at home). Last day of the month we start a series with the bumbinos in the latrine.

    If you want to feel like you belong in the post-season, then you have to make hay against these teams, and with the chop the only team we play this month with a losing record, then yeah, we need to take this game/series.

    Looking for an update GH. Enjoy the game.

    Here is a great read on one of the players challenging for the ROY award…our own Duffman.

    http://tinyurl.com/p884pvs

    I love this kid more and more, all the time. I said this when he initally came up…he reminds me a lot Bill Mueller. Mueller, like Duffy, was a late round draft pick (15th) by our Giants, had a similar slight build, and played a good 3B for the Giants. He also ended up a lifetime .291 hitter.

    • Lurker John said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:59 am

      Yep, I’ve been posting about Duffy quite a bit myself. Very impressive player, a tough but quiet competitor and a perfect fit for the Bochy-led Giants. I liked Mueller too, chi, and he went on to have success with Boston after his Giants career. I always kept tabs on him. Excellent home grown talent. Comparing him to Duffy is spot on. That double he hit last night was “vintage” Duffy, a laser shot liner into the RF corner, very Edgar Martinez-like.

      Lou Pinella always used to say about Edgar that he was one of those rare hitters who could hit the ball the other was as hard as he did when he pulled it. Duffy is like that, a natural off-field hitter. That was a seed he hit last night.

      • Lurker John said, on August 5, 2015 at 10:00 am

        “other way…”

    • Irish Kevin said, on August 5, 2015 at 10:32 am

      Who was that Irish guy that was always complaining about not bringing up the young talent instead of signing old guys every year???

      • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:09 am

        Some doofus…I think his name was Kevin, too. 😉

  6. Macdog said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:43 am

    I’m guessing this is the same Williams Perez who threw 7 shutout innings vs. the Giants back on May 30?

  7. Bozo said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:49 am

    I saw some posts about Pablo at the end of yesterday’s thread and recalled that a few Flappers thought we’d miss Flan more than the Panda. So far that seems to be coming true. Props to the Duffster and no offense meant for Roberto Kelly, who I’m sure will get that gig down pat

    Win day for the Giants, mow day for me. If I had a goat I’d name him Moe, until all my brush was chewed down, after that I’d rename him Dinner.

    • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:54 am

      You need to get that goat, John, so that he can take care of the “Moe-ing,” and you can kick-back and watch the game!

    • xoot said, on August 5, 2015 at 10:04 am

      Birria!

      • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:36 am

        I had something similar when in Saudi Arabia. After the war was over, we went up into the mountains with some of our Saudi Air Force compadres. The Saudi Chief shows up in his 69 Chevy station wagon with a goat in the back. A couple of the guys we were with (brothers) look and ask “what is Chief doing with a goat in his car?!?” I told them the goat is probably lunch…they tripped out. Anyway, the goat was fantastic…got pictures of me holding the goat’s head and riding a camel owned by some local Bedouins. I ended up giving my camo hat to a Bedouin kid who was riding a donkey…he was estatic…the smile and his joy just melted our hearts.

  8. Lurker John said, on August 5, 2015 at 10:03 am

    In case anyone did not realize it, Hunter Pence is one strong dude. When he squares one up, he hits the ball as hard as anyone in baseball, IMHO. Huge dinger last night.

    • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:38 am

      I missed it live…was at a training session with my dog, but saw the highlights. That was a fucking missle!

  9. alleykat69 said, on August 5, 2015 at 10:04 am

    Yeah let’s get this mother fuckin win today!!!
    Bum gotta me motivated after that las start!
    HotAtlanta… Only liked the Band with my man Papa John Creach playing his bad ass fiddle, God that dude was awesome, saw him twice at the Fillmore & Winterland great shows!!!

    • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:40 am

      I saw him (Papa John) with Hot Tuna at Cain’s Ballroom in good ol’ Tulsa, Oklahoma (my stomping grounds as a young one). Great show! Saw an acoustic version last year…just Jorma, Jack, and another cat on guitar. It was good, but nothing like the full-blown electric Tuna with Papa John smoking that fiddle!

  10. dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 5, 2015 at 10:39 am

    Anyone think Tomlinson gets the start at 2b today with agent zero to the bench?

    • Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 10:43 am

      After his bumbling around at 2nd yesterday, I think we are all hoping for that today

      • alleykat69 said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:10 am

        Yeah no shit BF.
        How you butcher a 6 hopper playing on the outfield grass with of course our 1 dickhead running AJ Jerkoff as slow as he is, is just pathetic!!
        Get the kid Kelby in there pronto!!!

    • zumiee said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:09 am

      That’s Bochy-esque: to get a new bench guy a start, to get his feet wet.

    • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:41 am

      Not sure where he got the info (Twitter? which I do not do)…but a friend said he is hearing that Tomlinson is probably starting today…along with Crazy Horse. If so, I am one game closer to winning my bet!

  11. unca_chuck said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:07 am

    No kidding. OOOdrianza is getting to be an annoyance.

    • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:42 am

      Ship his ass back to Sacto and bring back Arias…at least until they can possibly do a waiver-wire upgrade…

  12. giants54 said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:29 am

    I see Adrianna had two hits last night. He’s 3 for last 7 with 2 walks…so expect Bochy ill ride the hot hand. 😉

    • Lurker John said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:35 am

      2 hits and a boneheaded play at 2nd.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:37 am

      Tomlinson batting 1.000. Can’t get much hotter than that.

  13. blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:37 am

    Good Belt or Bad Belt today? Zero for five last night . . . Day before that, a monster game with a bomb among his three hits . . . Day before that, another “ofer.”

    Hoping for the “good” Belt, since he is facing a mediocre righty.

    • Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:52 am

      No Belt for me today mostly because I hate watching his at bats. The ones where he misses the ball by a country mile and his helmet comes flying off. Plus at $3800 I’d take Morales over him at $2900 all day long.

      • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:57 am

        Yep, much better options . . . Actually, going with Mauer ($2200) in Toronto against Hutchinson – he of the 5.42 ERA . . . Or Gonzo in Philly.

      • Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 12:04 pm

        you want to play a h2h with stipulation I take morales and you take Belt? We’re gonna play anyway, might as well add a little something to it like this

      • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 12:07 pm

        LOL . . . I dislike Belt (umm, actually the feeling is worse then that . . . especially tonight, with too many other options to list. Sheesh, I love Lind too this evening). Belt? Hilarious.

      • Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 12:16 pm

        ok you don’t have to take him. I’m taking Morales on that team tho

      • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 12:29 pm

        lqtm

  14. zumiee said, on August 5, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    Kudos to Duffy in the 3 spot. He gives such a quality AB just about every time. Belt is a good 6 spot hitter. The Giants lineup has good depth to it.

  15. Irish Kevin said, on August 5, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    Have not been reading all comments, so if this has already been thrown around the yard.. Anyway good article on the Gate about the closer situation. How would you guys feel about Lopez closing?

    http://www.sfgate.com/giants/article/Giants-Splash-Bruce-Bochy-discusses-his-bullpen-6425061.php

    • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 1:00 pm

      Not good. Lopez (to his credit) has pitched quite a few innings already this season (54 games, 28.2). Compare that with Casilla, (45 games, 38 innings). Basically, you’re asking Lopez to pitch at least 30 more innings this season. Consider that Lopez has only pitched 37.2, 39.1, and and 36 innings total in the previous 3 seasons.

      He’s been lights out thus far this season, but I don’t know about asking him to double his workload between now and the end of the season. In short, Lopez is a situation type pitcher, usually going against the other team’s best right handed hitter.

      • zumiee said, on August 5, 2015 at 1:11 pm

        Left-handed hitter. 🙂

      • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 2:41 pm

        Whoops! Thanks Zum.

    • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 1:48 pm

      I agree with Blade. Lopez closing = no bueno.

      It probably will not happen this year, but if they bring Osich back, I would like to see him get some opportunities.

      And even with his .304 BAA with RISP, I still like Strickland, even tho he “can be hit.”

  16. xoot said, on August 5, 2015 at 1:25 pm

    I’d like to see a two-man closer by committee–Casilla and Strickland–just to get to Sept., when there’ll be room for a whole lot of arms (including Osich). I think now and through the PS, Romo and LOOGY Lopez should occupy the roles they filled in 2010. Both rose above the specialist level in 2012, but that was then. Don’t wear em out; don’t force Romo to pitch to LHs (with occasional exceptions) or Lopez to RHs (same). Can Casilla and Strickland get it done? Gawd knows. But I don’t see A. Chapman hitting the waiver wire anytime soon, so . . . . I agree with everyone who’s high on Osich; I think he can join the committee as of Sept. 1.

  17. chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    The kid gets his first start…Clark Kent glasses and all!

    But OOOAdrianza gets a start to spell Craw at short…

    1. Nori Aoki (L) LF
    2. Gregor Blanco (L) CF
    3. Matt Duffy (R) 3B
    4. Buster Posey (R) C
    5. Hunter Pence (R) RF
    6. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    7. Ehire Adrianza (S) SS
    8. Kelby Tomlinson (R) 2B
    9. Madison Bumgarner (R) P (11-6, 3.39 ERA)

  18. Macdog said, on August 5, 2015 at 1:56 pm

    Y000 Adrianza batting 7th? He shouldn’t even bat 8th with MadBum in the lineup.

  19. alleykat69 said, on August 5, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    Jesus I can see the Undertaker blowing a gasket early if the new double play combo boot an easy one..

    • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 3:42 pm

      No shit. They’ll get an earful if they make dumb mistakes.

  20. alleykat69 said, on August 5, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    So Duffy’s cat has made a quality of life commitment to lose weight. Skeebers who was at 36lbs is down to 27 lbs, less scrapes off of Duffy’s plate I guess? If anything Duffy needs to finish his own plate and have seconds..

  21. chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 3:27 pm

    According to John Shea, Panik’s tests show inflammation. Bochy hopes he can return once his 15 day stint on the DL is up. We can only hope…

    I hope the kid shines and when Panik comes back, Ehire gets his bus ticket back to Sacto…

  22. Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    Kruk sells another pitcher as an all star.

  23. Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    what’s the interpreter for Aoki make? 100K a year?

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:28 pm

      Free travel around the US with a dugout view for MLB games. I’d be willing to go as low as $90K for that.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:36 pm

      Good question . . . This article says “Interpreters,” and they are referring to 2 Japanese players, so Yankees pay $150k for 2 interpreters I am guessing . . .

      http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/25/sports/baseball/25translate.html?oref=slogin

    • Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:44 pm

      if you’re the interpreter, and you want more dough, do you just start making shit up that he says till they pay up?

    • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:45 pm

      Of course, if you are working for the Marlins and you’re the #5 starter or a utility player, you get the English/Japanese Android ap. 🙂

  24. Carstie Clausen said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    The kid is all right. Two MLB rbi’s on his second hit in The Show. So is Tomlinson the next one? If he can keep it up and is impervious to the league catching on to any weaknesses he may have, we could be looking at another homegrown smoker.

  25. Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:47 pm

    “Lavarnway, with very good power…” –Kruk

    Um, he’s got 1 HR in 62 at bats this year…..

  26. zumiee said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:49 pm

    Tomlinson, instant folk-hero. I can already see some fans at AT&T Park wearing big fake black-rimmed spectacles.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:56 pm

      Imagine the Giants PR department already has the patent on some sort of combo hat and glasses, along these lines . . .

      • zumiee said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:58 pm

        That is almost too much awesome.

  27. blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    Someone (forgot who) mentioned Buster as a very strong MVP candidate. I would have to agree. Dude has been raking most of the year.

    • zumiee said, on August 5, 2015 at 4:59 pm

      A big key will be if the Giants make the playoffs.

  28. blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:09 pm

    Wow! Tomlinson impresses.

    • Lisle Ellis said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:16 pm

      … and look at what Airhead 000 is doing … he must feel Tomlinson breathing down his neck

      • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:26 pm

        Adrianza reminds me of Sarah Packard from the classic movie, The Hustler . . .

        Bert Gordon: You’re here on a rain check and I know it. You’re hangin’ on by your nails. You let that glory whistle blow loud and clear for Eddie and you’re a wreck on a railroad track… you’re a horse that finished last. So don’t make trouble, Miss Ladybird. Live and let live! While you can. I’ll make it up to you.
        Sarah Packard: How?
        Bert Gordon: You tell me.

      • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:28 pm

        LMAO Blade….good one brother.

  29. Carstie Clausen said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    At his current rate of production Tomlinson would have 243 Rib Eyes in a season.

  30. chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    Just got home and see that “The Kid” is still batting 1.000 and has all three RBIs. Welcome to The Show, Kelby T!

  31. chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:30 pm

    The Kid, flashing the leather, too!

    • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:34 pm

      Duffy? Panik? Tomlinson?

      Shit, the Giants went decades it seemed without one home grown player, much less 3 long shots like these guys. Yeah, maybe Panik was a 1st round draft pick, but it still boggles my mind that Brain Trust Central just keeps sending replacements to Willie Mays Plaza that perform immediately. Fucking amazing.

      • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 10:44 pm

        It is. Best oiled machine in baseball.

  32. unca_chuck said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    Damon. I miss too much shit on Bart.

  33. unca_chuck said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    Damon? Fuck autocorrect

  34. Bozo said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    I’m getting such a hate on for David Braxton Fleming that I might start rooting for the Braves. What a stick up the ass tool.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:41 pm

      Do you mean David Braxton Flemming John? I know the guy you cited was a Seattle Mariners pitcher.

      • Bozo said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:43 pm

        Yup – I did the edit. I probably hate the other guy as well.

  35. ewisco said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:40 pm

    Tomlinson flies out to left. Trade his ass already. Jeez.

  36. Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:47 pm

    anyone know why the Braves built a new stadium? Just had an extra 500 mil lying around?

    • Bozo said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:57 pm

      From what I heard they are building it out in the burbs. My buddy who has been a Field Box ticket holder for a long time, is giving up his seats because it just doesn’t work for him. I can’t imagine how it will work for the Corporate Luxury Box guys. Maybe it was the only way they could get Ted Turners name off of the stadium?

    • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 6:02 pm

      I forgot who Flav, but a couple of Flappers said the existing stadium was falling apart insofar as maintenance. Additionally, it was in a bad location in Atlanta, i.e., nothing like the atmosphere at the Phone Park or Sherpa stadium in LODO.

      • Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 6:07 pm

        that’s weird because it’s not even 20 years old yet. But whatever, good for them

      • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 6:09 pm

        Yeah, really good for them (Braves), because I understand that the city is footing the bill.

  37. blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 5:48 pm

    Best breakdown of the ROY race I have seen thus far . . . http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/nl-rookie-of-the-year-no-longer-a-two-horse-race/

  38. Bozo said, on August 5, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    Attaway Duffman.

  39. blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    Belt. lqtm.

  40. Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    he takes more 2 strike pitches that are RIGHT THERE and his incredulous reaction EVERY TIME when he’s called out on strikes is getting old. Swing the fucking bat Mr OPS……

  41. blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 6:15 pm

    We need Chi to pull his chain . . . Somehow, someway, those 2 guys are “mind melded” together, where Belt only gets his ass in gear when Chi lights a fire under him. 🙂

    • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:03 pm

      What? You think we should trade Belt? I think I have had some help in lighting that fire. 😉

  42. ewisco said, on August 5, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    I’m curious about where u play Tomlinson. Utility guy? I would think he would need regular at bats to shine but with duff, craw and panik I don’t see him taking one of those spots. If u could move aoki to center maybe he could work in left but aoki can barely handle left. Decisions decisions.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 5, 2015 at 6:26 pm

      Well with those glasses he could pitch and be the second coming of “The Wild Thing”

    • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:08 pm

      I saw a piece where they were discussing draft logic, and the Giants go after these grinders, and then teach them to play multiple positions. The insinuation being that guys like Duffy and Tomlinson are taught OF positions, too, and if needed could play there. Last few years it has sure paid off in Craw, Panik, and Duffy. But for all the reasons you mention xoot, I think Tomlinson’s best chance to stick is going to be as a super-utlity…and if he proves he can play the OF on occasion, that will certainly increase his chances.

  43. pawliekokonuts said, on August 5, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    I felt the Ted, as it is called, was in remarkably good shape during my 2012 visit. Not much around it. But decent enough place. That’s my take, such as it is.

    Great WIN! Really speaks to this team’s CHARACTER to win this series. Proud of ’em.

  44. Bozo said, on August 5, 2015 at 7:06 pm

    Good win. On to Chicago.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on August 5, 2015 at 7:12 pm

      Yep. (Well, all wins are good, right? Maybe not, not if they come with a huge cost in the long run.)

    • djloo27 said, on August 5, 2015 at 8:34 pm

      I think those were RFK’s last words…

      • djloo27 said, on August 5, 2015 at 8:45 pm
  45. pawliekokonuts said, on August 5, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    I love Kelby’s big splash and all, but let’s calmthefuckdown. These days they get a quick book on a guy. If I recall, Tom O’Malley made a big inaugural splash too.

    • Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 7:36 pm

      i think everyone is just appreciating how great the story is, PK. I’m certainly not expecting Tomlinson to stay up here. Of course I thought the same thing about Duffy and Panik.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on August 5, 2015 at 7:42 pm

        true, all the way; who’d’ve thunk those guys would excel as they have? They did.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 5, 2015 at 7:45 pm

      Oh yeah PK, they will get a book on the Hellbe Kelbey machine in time. Just enjoying his little fun and media coverage right now. They interviewed him after the game, head sets on, passes by in the background with a sly smile,probably thinkin I found another nugget for the stretch..

  46. unca_chuck said, on August 5, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    Story I heard is the stadium was built for the Olympics but the powers that be want the new one where the money is. The burbs.

    • Flavor said, on August 5, 2015 at 7:35 pm

      works for me. thanks.

  47. Carstie Clausen said, on August 5, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    Kiss your sisterville in Chi-town? Four game sets often work out that way ~ particularly when teams are fairly closely matched. Pitching is fairly equal, seeing as Bumgarner has shot his wad for the next 4 days. Cubbies have home-field advantage. Giants advantage is a usually relentless offense. A 3-1 advantage could play big in the Wild-Card race. A four-zip series would get you some pretty hefty odds in Vegas.

  48. willedav said, on August 5, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    I miss these away games and likely won’t see much til sat/sun. Heard bum went 7 plus. Any reason he couldn’t have finished? I did see he K’d 9 and threw 115 or so pitches so I guess that’s it, pitch count

    So, here it is: Month of May, Bum made 6 starts and threw 38 thirds innings, with 4 of them not more than 6 and a third.
    June he was great, but July 29 and 2 thirds innings in 5 starts, where 3 of them he could not finish 6th.

    I’d like to see him go deeper and finish a game. He has 1 complete game all year….he’s the staff ace, guy who should keep the pen rested. So go 9 and beat the other guy.
    I don’t buy pitch count as an argument or saving strength. Last year he threw 270 total and was at his dang best at the very end of it, as Royals will surely attest.

  49. zumiee said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    MLB Network is pumping up Grichuk as an NL ROY candidate.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:25 pm

      Right now Zumiee, there are 8 legit candidates and by one measure, Grichuk is leading (see my link above). Below is another measure which shows Bryant in the lead (apologize for the chart not lining up. Again, the article I mentioned earlier in the thread, shows this chart as well):

      The chart below shows each rookie’s current WAR and the rest of the season projection from the FanGraphs Depth Charts. The third column adds the first two, showing the expected WAR at the end of the season.

      WAR ROS WAR UPDATED WAR
      Kris Bryant 3.4 1.6 5.0
      Matt Duffy 3.1 0.8 3.9
      Joc Pederson 2.7 1.1 3.8
      Noah Syndergaard 2.5 1.2 3.7
      Jung-Ho Kang 2.7 0.8 3.5
      Randal Grichuk 2.7 0.6 3.3
      Chris Heston 2.3 0.9 3.2
      Maikel Franco 1.3 0.7 2.0

  50. unca_chuck said, on August 5, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    Shit, bummies fine at7.1. He’s doing better than all the rest. Why push him now, Willie? Pitch count or no, 120 is plenty. With a 5 run lead especially.

    • willedav said, on August 5, 2015 at 10:00 pm

      Understand, but if you’re worried about your closer, how about making it irrelevant who does it?
      What I saw in those 2 months May and July were majority of games where he was gone before end of 7.
      I think he could do more and it would help out pen a lot if he could—as in balance out the other guys.

    • chipower9 said, on August 5, 2015 at 11:12 pm

      I agree with Charlie…to me this is a non-issue…or not a pressing issue. You always want your starters to go deeper in the games, but I don’t think Bum’s IP has worn on the bullpen more than any other startes. Yeah, as the ace, maybe you do expect that guy to go deeper, but again, this is not a big issue, IMO.

  51. zumiee said, on August 6, 2015 at 12:08 am

    The GOP candidates head off to Thursday night’s debate:

  52. Macdog said, on August 6, 2015 at 6:53 am

    I’m going to Phillies-Dodgers today, hoping Phils can take the rubber game but might be asking a bit much with Greinke going. You bet I’ll be rocking my World Series swag for any Bums fans in the house. Is there an alternate knowing-head-nod that says, “We’re 3in5 and you’re 0since88? Especially for the younger fans who have now seen a Triple Crown winner before a Dodgers WS title.

    • zumiee said, on August 6, 2015 at 7:06 am

      I had lunch with a Dodger fan the other day. His fear of the Giants, if the Giants make the playoffs, is immense.

      • willedav said, on August 6, 2015 at 7:17 am

        Pavs has nice monthly recaps and part of what he said was June SF was 12-14 and then July saw Op and Greinke with all their scoreless innings, but Giants played well (if streaky) and are still right on their heels
        Even if trip doesn’t end well, this happened before too in August, and Giants rebounded from it.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 6, 2015 at 7:23 am

      Enjoy the game MacDog,
      I’ll toast for a Phils win🍺
      3 in 5 ….O since 88 loving that shit!!
      Those dog hair whippersnappers are coming up on 30 years old without a title!! Puts an extra smile on my face😀😀

    • pawliekokonuts said, on August 6, 2015 at 8:03 am

      POTD

      • pawliekokonuts said, on August 6, 2015 at 8:04 am

        Macdog’s 0since88, that is

  53. zumiee said, on August 6, 2015 at 7:02 am

    Like Stick, I’m happy to split the series in Chicago and call it good.

  54. chipower9 said, on August 6, 2015 at 8:21 am

    Have a great time, Mac. Rock that Orange and Black hard, and GO PHILS!

  55. chipower9 said, on August 6, 2015 at 8:25 am

    RE: Tomlinson…sure it is a very small sample size…a couple of games and four or five ABs. No guarantee the kid will be the next version of Duffy or Panik, but I sure like the way he carries himself, and his approach, etc. I am just happy for the kid to really get off on the right foot during his ML debut. If he sticks and is still around on the 16th (next game to which I am going), I must find some “Clark Kent” glasses to rock at the game!

    Other notable Giants to wear 37: Stu Miller, Ray Sadecki, and Kelly Downs (I threw Downs in there as he was a key piece to those 80s and early 90s teams).

    Blade – liked the ROY article you shared. Good stuff…a bit deep on the Sabermetrics for me (I am not a Saber guy), but still very good and thorough. Only bitch (and sure I am biased) is that Duffy did not seem to get as much love as Bryant, etc. No mention of how Duffy stepped in when BuzzKill floundered, and what an admiral job he has done at making us forget Pablo.


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