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Winding Down……

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 3, 2015

Here’s a lame stat to choke on while you’re eating breakfast this morning:

Only Duffy and Crawford have more HR’s at AT&T this year (7 each) than Nolan Arenado (6 in 7 games). That stat goes out to everyone who says it’s really, really hard to hit home runs at AT&T…

So where are we with Hesto Presto? Because I’m starting to think that the more expensive version of him (Leake) would be the better route to take next year. I’m kidding. Sort of.

Still can’t believe Duffy won the WM Award. And that Loo called it. 35 years, no rookies win the award. What must that say about how his teammates view him? The Duffman is a keeper……

A Flapper becomes a Clapper….

xoot said, on October 2, 2015 at 11:10 pm (Edit)

I was at the game tonight, early. Pretty good turnout for the Willie Mac Award ceremony, maybe 50% of the stands full. And Willie’s proud announcement of Duffy’s name sparked a genuine roar of approval. A bit of surprise and a lot of respect fueled that roar. We stood cheering for a long time.

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  1. willedav said, on October 3, 2015 at 7:34 am

    Thing about Heston (last night anyway) was that Rox were aggressive early in count. First inning he got them out in 7 pitches. Then Arenado’s bomb was on first pitch too. You’re talking about a rook pitcher with a rook C who has never seen these guys.

    As for the yard, RH guys with pop can do damage when it isn’t windy. Williamson smoked one 400 plus to RCF when he had the triple. If he’d pulled that it goes out easy.
    But they showed a clip of Posey hitting an HR at Coors to RCF, something he can’t do at ATT. There was a post I saw on Baggs site from a guy who said that if you move Posey to 1b he hits .350 with 30 bombs.
    Which I think is ridiculous. Like Kuip said, he’ll feel a lot better physically and can play more often, but I don’t see numbers going up much more than what he has done this year for avg and slugging. 25 HRs tops.

    Another funny thing about HRs: 2010 when Giants were 6th in league for HRs they were actually only 9th for runs scored and 9th for OB.
    This year, 12th HRs but tops in NL for hits BA OB and slugging.
    4th in OPS, 4th in doubles 5th in triples and 5th in runs scored.
    So a lot more matters than just hitting HRs is my take, at any position.

  2. Carstie Clausen said, on October 3, 2015 at 8:26 am

    Never having previously pitched through September, Heston has been running on fumes for a month or more. Strength and conditioning will become his mantra. Without him the Giants would have been very lucky to finish 4th in the Division. Whether he begins in the rotation come April or cools his heels at Sac-town, Heston will start for the Giants next season, particularly if he builds his stamina.

  3. willedav said, on October 3, 2015 at 8:27 am

    If you threw out Leake’s best start (with LA full party mode night before after clinching vs. Bum) and his worst one, he seems more like a back end of rotation guy. Innings eater tho, pitches to contact, and Giants D behind him should be pretty good. Hopefully more reasonable $$ and years.

    Samardzj didn’t do all that well for A’s last year after trade, and had a very bad stretch for WhiteSox before his last 2 starts.
    J Zim ERA of 3.66, less than ace like. Probably a lot of teams after this guy (as opposed to Greinke Cueto Price) that drive up bidding.

    Pavs seems to think SF gets Leake but not anyone more elite.

  4. zumiee said, on October 3, 2015 at 10:30 am

    The team with the best record automatically playing the Wild Card winner gave the Cards a tougher seeding than the Dodgers.

  5. zumiee said, on October 3, 2015 at 10:32 am

    Sandoval never made it back this season after his bout with pneumonia. You don’t often hear of ballplayers getting pneumonia.

  6. snarkk said, on October 3, 2015 at 11:06 am

    Somebody that’s carrying way too much weight is susceptible to diseases that normally are no big deal running amock in their body. Cue Panda. Giants so fortunate he left. Sad to say, but I don’t think it over the top to say he’s a disgrace to himself and his teammates. Where’s the pride? If I had been given his baseball gifts I wouldn’t be wasting them. Duffy is now a fixture at 3rd. Bochy should give him more off days next year, assuming fewer team injuries, so I’m expecting the Duffman to hit 15-18 fingers…

    • snarkk said, on October 3, 2015 at 11:07 am

      Or dingers…

    • Flavor said, on October 3, 2015 at 11:46 am

      Sandoval did a true Nestea plunge into irrelevance

  7. xoot said, on October 3, 2015 at 11:12 am

    all right, all right

    If this has been posted before, I apologize. But it’s interesting.
    http://www.theplayerstribune.com/matt-duffy-giants-the-new-kid/

  8. Flavor said, on October 3, 2015 at 11:45 am

    Cain tomorrow. Pointless.

    • Paul Sorensen said, on October 3, 2015 at 12:04 pm

      Agree. Cain next year might even be pointless… one can only hope not.

  9. Paul Sorensen said, on October 3, 2015 at 12:10 pm

    Xoot, I do think that was posted at some point, but it’s good to read it again. I particularly like where “the old vet” Duffy is talking to Specs, who had just been called up, and relays what Pence had said to him some months before about the team needing him. Damn, wish this team had stayed healthy enough to make the post-season; this is truly one very likeable group of players. I’m already looking forward to next year.

  10. Lurker John said, on October 3, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    I have a copy of the Willie Mays autobiography that I’m about to donate to the library. If anyone here wants it, leave a post or email and I’ll ship it to you. If you haven’t read it, it’s a good read and worth giving a go.

    • Lurker John said, on October 3, 2015 at 1:02 pm

      The title is ‘Willie Mays The Life, The Legend.’

  11. snarkk said, on October 3, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    I’m good with ceremony and tradition in baseball. Part of why I love the game. But, seriously, this sendoff to Huddy to me is a bit much for a guy not really other than a transient Giant. I suppose it’s a career celebration deal, but it’s like the guy pitched for the Giants for 15 seasons, not 1 1/2. If he went to the HOF, he’s not going in as a Giant, it’s as a Brave, or even a “A”. In 53 starts, he went 17-22 with the Gyros, with a WHIP around 1.30. He was a best bud to Bum, so I guess for that he earned a few of his $24 million. Let the Braves give him a proper “day”, that’s where he really made his career after a good start with the A’s. Affeldt’s day tomorrow, he deserves a good sendoff — one of the best records in MLB post-season history for a lefty reliever..

    • Flavor said, on October 3, 2015 at 1:42 pm

      totally agree. It’s weird. Did they do this for Randy Johnson? I know he only pitched a season for us but Huddy didn’t do that much more and Johnson had a far more productive career…..

  12. Flavor said, on October 3, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    fuckin’ SPECS! Few things in sports more exciting than an inside the parker

    • snarkk said, on October 3, 2015 at 2:01 pm

      Yep. Then Byrd flies yard again. I’m going against every instinct I have against old players — I want this guy back next season…

      • Flavor said, on October 3, 2015 at 2:11 pm

        he doesn’t look like he’s in spectacular shape, there was definitely som tit bounceage on the richt-it scale underneath that uni during the homerun trot. I’d put that at a 3.2 richt-it quake, not a big one but noticeable if you were awake. But for whatever reason, he seems strong and reliable. I want him back too.

      • snarkk said, on October 3, 2015 at 2:14 pm

        Yeah, he’s got some late 30’s bulge, but hopefully won’t be nearing Bengielena 50 DDD territory. But, that swing looked smooth, he went with a ball high in the zone and outside, and the ball jumped out to center. He’s a pro hitter — and if makes contact, the ball moves, and as a vet, isn’t afraid of a clutch moment. Miller said the ball’s not really carrying that well today. If he craps out or gets hurt next season, the financial hit won’t be devastating. I don’t see any dependable OF RH pop elsewhere in this organization to add to Pence. Mac Williamson is nothing but an unknown, tho’ looks like he might have promise. Giants need some OF pop threat from R side of the plate to platoon and for PH…

      • djloo27 said, on October 3, 2015 at 3:15 pm

        His first homer in 5 weeks, guys…

  13. snarkk said, on October 3, 2015 at 2:11 pm

    When they have Timmy day, they should give him a Giant-sized lifetime gift cert to one of those legal marijuana shops in greater Seattle…

  14. Flavor said, on October 3, 2015 at 2:17 pm

    is this the dumbest sideline reporter of all time? She’s my nominee. Jeez, OXYGEN TANKS? What is this, Mars?

    • Paul Sorensen said, on October 3, 2015 at 2:53 pm

      Yeah, kinda like Bush the 1st being blown away that supermarkets actually had electronic scanners…..

      • Flavor said, on October 3, 2015 at 3:21 pm

        you wanna see me blow a gasket? Put me in line behind someone at the electronic scanner at safeway. WHAT THE FUCK IS SO HARD ABOUT THE ELECTRONIC SCANNER? Sometimes I’ll just say “gimmie your food, I’ll do it for you….” Nobody’s ever said shit…..

  15. snarkk said, on October 3, 2015 at 2:39 pm

    Niners should draft Kenny Lawler, WR out of Cal, next draft. Junior, 6-3, 200. I’d go 2nd round, after a first round OL pick. The guy has hands, good speed, good moves. Can go up and get the ball. Or, if he’s still there, in the 3rd round — after they pick a QB in round 1 or 2…

  16. Paul Sorensen said, on October 3, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    “Few things in sports more exciting than an inside the parker”… yeah, huh, that’s just so sweet. A moment that kid will never forget, and he looks like he’s going to have many moments at China Basin. Byrd? I’ve been a Byrd-man for years, would love it if they bring him back.

  17. Flavor said, on October 3, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    Maybe Goff/Lawler 1/2?

    • snarkk said, on October 3, 2015 at 3:02 pm

      Baalke will pick some OLman with an ACL or something…

      • Flavor said, on October 3, 2015 at 3:22 pm

        how far have I come in life? When I am calling for 2 Cal Bears to get drafted in the first AND second round by the NIners, I’ve either gone insane or gained an incredible amount of perspective…….

  18. djloo27 said, on October 3, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    The NY Rangers have this tradition where they present an expensive custom made silver hockey stick to a player in a pre-game ceremony commemorating his 1000th career game. I must have seen a half dozen of these where the guy had played about 930 of the games for other teams…

  19. xoot said, on October 3, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    Cal’s secondary is porous.
    Romo did well vs a couple of LHs

    • willedav said, on October 3, 2015 at 4:10 pm

      Flem was talking about this on radio.
      Vs. LH, Romo 7 walks 8 Ks (or maybe reverse), batters hitting .375.
      Vs. RH, 2 walks 63 Ks! Batters hitting .170.

      Hope Osich can step in and get those LH out, but Romo owns RH.

      • xoot said, on October 3, 2015 at 4:18 pm

        Yeah it’s been extreme this year

  20. willedav said, on October 3, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    Esp after what Bochy did to help Casilla option vest, imo right thing to do is tell Byrd Giants are picking up his option if he so desires, whether he gets the necessary plate apps or not.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on October 3, 2015 at 6:06 pm

      Yes to reupping Byrd. Professional hitters who are RH positive when it comes to dingers and taters are a commodity which a winning team usually need. This is particularly true at the park on McCovey Cove.

  21. xoot said, on October 3, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    Casilla vote of confidence from the Giants.

  22. djloo27 said, on October 3, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    Scherzer no-hits Mets. 17 K’s…

    • zumiee said, on October 3, 2015 at 6:34 pm

      Bad time for the Mets to be struggling. The Dodgers might roll right over them.

  23. Paul Sorensen said, on October 3, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    Dodgers might just go a lot farther than any of us want to see them go this year….. Mets struggling, Cards with problems…. Cubbies? Buccos? Bueller? Might want to start mentally and emotionally preparing for LA winning it all…. It’s bound to happen at some point, only intensifies it for next year.

    • zumiee said, on October 3, 2015 at 7:55 pm

      Yeah, 26 years has been a nice drought for the Dodgers. Hopefully it continues, but maybe it won’t.

  24. djloo27 said, on October 3, 2015 at 7:16 pm

    Fuck Notre Dame. The coach is a slimy weasel. Ask Cincinnati.

  25. wilcojoe said, on October 3, 2015 at 7:47 pm

    Manfred’s (almost said Selig) decision to make all games start at the same time on last day is going to make things interesting. Yankees, Rangers, Astros, and Angels all have a lot on the line tomorrow. So many different scenarios could play out.

  26. wilcojoe said, on October 3, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    Astros announcers saying that if Astros win tonight and tomorrow and Yankees lose tomorrow, they will play each other on Monday in Houston for home field advantage in the wild card game? Really, that can’t be right. They would play to determine who gets home field advantage in a one game series? Are you kidding me?

    • djloo27 said, on October 3, 2015 at 8:46 pm

      I do not believe that is correct, WJ…

    • snarkk said, on October 3, 2015 at 9:56 pm

      No, ties for a WC game home field have a head to head, league W-L type of tiebreaker analysis…

    • Macdog said, on October 3, 2015 at 10:37 pm

      The way I figure it, if the Angels beat the Rangers tomorrow, the Astros will be playing an extra game one way or another: Either they win Sunday and tie the Rangers to force 1-game playoff to determine division title, or they lose Sunday and tie the Angels to force 1-game playoff for one of the wild card spots. BTW, what a gag job by the Rangers, blowing a 4-run lead in the 9th with the division title 3 outs away.

      • snarkk said, on October 3, 2015 at 10:47 pm

        Yep, that’s the way it will work. I don’t care much for AL ball, but it’s cool that the AL West is coming down to the last day…

    • Macdog said, on October 3, 2015 at 10:47 pm

      As for home field, if Yanks tie with either Rangers or Astros for the wild card, the Bombers will hit the road having lost the season series to both. And the Cubs still have a chance to host the WC game having won season series over the Pirates.

  27. unca_chuck said, on October 3, 2015 at 10:31 pm

    Yeah, for a meaningless game to close out a weird season, the inside the park home run was spectacular. It was a true no-one-misplayed-or-fucked-up-and-kicked-the-ball-around inside the parker. Tomlinson just hit it to the deepest corner of the yard and ran like a mofo. The crowd (place was packed due to the Star Wars connection) went nuts. Fun fun fun shit. Byrd and Crawfish yarding as well. All in all, good shit. Plus I got a pic with Darth Vader. He was shorter in real life than in the movies . . .

    And yeah, another Huddy tribute. Odd to say the least. The good news is it delayed the game enough for us to sit down and see the HRs in the 1st.

    I think they’re doing one for Affeldt tomorrow.

    Yeah, did they do one for Steve Carlton? Even Big Unit makes more sense.

  28. snarkk said, on October 3, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    Goff for Cal today: 390 yds, 4 TDs. The kid is going first round, top 5…
    Cal secondary looking shaky again, but also the DL couldn’t put a lot of pressure on the Wazoo QB.
    Bears now at 5-0, before they play the next 4 games (3 roadies) onslaught of top tier Pac 12 squads Utah, UCLA, USC, Oregon. Bears D this season better than last, but better than horrendous isn’t hard to achieve. Still subject to giving up the big pass, but this year’s version of D is better at takeaways = I think a +6 now on TOs ratio for the season. If they can win 1 and come out of this next four game stretch at 6-3, it would be just fine. Anything better is gravy. Go Bears!…

  29. unca_chuck said, on October 3, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    Shit, the Niners are playing top 5 pick football. Would they pass on another Cal guy?

    • snarkk said, on October 3, 2015 at 11:25 pm

      If Niners have a top 5 pick, they better find a way to pick Goff…

  30. willedav said, on October 4, 2015 at 7:36 am

    All I’m saying is, watch out for those teams that get in on last day.

  31. eddacker said, on October 4, 2015 at 8:04 am

    I have two thoughts with me on the last day of the 2015 season.
    1. When I come back in my next life I want an age 24 year like Matt Duffy is having this year.
    2. I hope the G-men are not building a rep as the ‘pitch-call’ whiners with the umpires. Not that umpiores would ever be that petty. But it felt to me like it got pretty bad. From the dugout to the announcer’s booth to the Joe West stare down. There was a lot of whingeing going on.

    Put my chair by the hot stove, the WS is almost over.

    • unca_chuck said, on October 4, 2015 at 8:45 am

      Pagan was the biggest culprit. Belt just got fucked over a lot. I think every team does it, and they all take it with a grain of salt.

      Shit, the Joe West deal was great theatre. I loved it.

    • unca_chuck said, on October 4, 2015 at 8:49 am

      But I’m with getting all the fucking umps in a room and TELLING them “Here’s the everloving strike zone as dictated by the motherfucking RULEBOOK. Call balls and strikes as DESCRIBED!” No low-ball umps, high-ball umps, wide umps, whatever the fuck. Call it straight.

      If they don’t call it correctly, demote their asses to BFE.

  32. pawliekokonuts said, on October 4, 2015 at 8:53 am

    Last game is a melancholy affair. They should play “There Used to Be a Ballpark” by Sinatra after the game.

  33. Macdog said, on October 4, 2015 at 9:04 am

    If I’m an Astros fan, I’m rooting for the Rangers to beat the Angels and win the division. Why? Because no matter how this shakes out today, the Astros will end up playing some kind of play-in game. If they tie the Rangers, they could lose the game to determine the AL West champ and fall back into the wild card, which means the Astros will end up playing two extra games. Plus there’s no home field edge for the AL West champ in the ALDS anyway. And the last thing the Astros want after today is to fall back into a tie with the Angels for a play-in wild card game. My best-case scenario for Houston is this: Win today, hope the Rangers win and Yanks lose, and the Astros get a WC game at home vs. Yanks with I would guess Keuchel on the mound.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on October 4, 2015 at 9:17 am

      “Baseball’s Star-Crossed Afternoon” a-brewing? I’m confused as all get-out.

    • wilcojoe said, on October 4, 2015 at 9:29 am

      You’re absolutely right Mac. Makes zero sense to chance having to play two games to get into LDS versus just one (possibly at home) all because you want the Division crown…Yes, Kecuhel is scheuled to pitch on Tuesday. If they have to play tomorrow it would either be Fiers or Kazmir (who has been attrocious since the trade).

  34. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 11:19 am

    Baggarly said this morning with Marty Lurie that he thinks it unlikely Giants bring Byrd back. IHO, they’d need to do some 2 year deal to make up for not giving him the ABs to vest his option for next year. He was really pretty sure of it. I hope he’s wrong. IMO, if they don’t bring Byrd back, they better have a darn good alternative RHd bat with pop off bench/platoon. They’ve got to have stronger bench next season. It looks like they will, but not necessarily bench pop. That’s needed. The FIRST pinch hit HR this season was in September with Parker. No more equivalents of linguini bats like bellman Arias, 000, Noonan, Perez, and other AAAA bench jockeys who give you nada other than a name on the LU card. The NL for the foreseeable future is going to be a bear — Cards, Mets, Bucs, Cubs, LA, and Braves probably will be back in the mix, plus I don’t think we can count on Ariz and Pads continually being dogmeat. You’re not going to get into a WC situation with 85 wins. Either win the div, or you’ve got to win 90+…

    • djloo27 said, on October 4, 2015 at 11:38 am

      Byrd did fine for us but I don’t want him back. Yesterday’s HR was his first in 5 weeks.
      At this point in his career I don’t think he has an upside as a National League starting outfielder.

      • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 11:44 am

        Then you and Sabes find us an alternative extra OFer with pop at that price. The guy has hit 23 HRs this season…

      • xoot said, on October 4, 2015 at 11:47 am

        That’s harsh, but maybe realistic. Byrd impressed me with his hustle and intensity and apparent intelligence. He still plays a good game for an old guy. Great late second half move from Sabean, but that may be it.

      • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 11:54 am

        This team needs HR power. We can argue on the Flap all day long amongst ourselves about “the conga line” and how the offense this year scored runs near the top of the league team stats. But, the deal is if there is a slump in a few of these singles and doubles guys throughout the season, and there will be, the conga line shuts, and run production craters. The more guys you have that can drive in 2 or 3 with one swing, the more you can avoid these multiple friggin’ 5-8 game losing streaks that were suffered this year, that really can’t happen more than once if you’re serious about trying to get to 90 wins…

  35. xoot said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    The one Byrd moment that won’t go away–swinging over a Kershaw slider to strike out in that swept series. Buster in the AB before managed to lay off or foul that pitch away several times. Byrd had no chance. 9th inning, if I recall correctly.

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:09 pm

      Well, Kershaw only struck out 293 other guys this year…

      • djloo27 said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:14 pm

        Those were mostly questionable calls by those rotten HP umps, Snarkk…

  36. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:03 pm

    Affeldt speaking now on retiirement…

  37. Lurker John said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:04 pm

    Last chance for the May’s autobiography, otherwise It goes to the library today. I’ll ship it, just need contact info. batino88@hotmail.com.

    • blade3colorado said, on October 4, 2015 at 7:08 pm

      Sent you an email John. 😉

  38. djloo27 said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:04 pm

    We’re working on it, Snarkk…

  39. Flavor said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    This Affeldt speech. Jesus.

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:10 pm

      I’ve gone onto social security since it started…

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:17 pm

      Well, a good speech, but just a TAD too long. 😉
      The only guy he didn’t thank was Murph, which was a mistake.
      Go online and read Gehrig’s farewell speech. Maybe 2 minutes. The guy was given a death sentence, and produced that speech. Greatest sports speech ever, and not a wasted word…

  40. djloo27 said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    I don’t think I would recognize Sam Bradford if he wasn’t being helped off the field.
    His helmet should have a Red Cross on it…

  41. Flavor said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    Yes, Affeld’s speech was too long and it sounded like (I was on radio) he cried through 3/4 of it. Still, you don’t get too many pro athletes who speak so eloquently and from the heart. I enjoyed it.

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:46 pm

      I guess I’m not feeling sentimental — maybe missing the playoffs is hitting home today, and I’m grumpy.
      Affeldt, thanks for the memories. You were really good, mostly. Great playoff performances, we’ll always be grateful for those.
      Now you can have as many dumb accidents at home as you can handle, and the DL won’t be impacted.
      Bring on Osich…

  42. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    Parker has played in 20 games, with 15 hits in 45 AB. Small sample, and against late season competition. Still, intriguing for next Spring…

    Stat line: BA/OBP/SLG/OPS
    333 .400 .778 1.178

  43. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    Duffman! The dude just keeps on producing…

  44. zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:05 pm

    The Giants signed a 20-year old Cuban outfielder, #4 ranked international prospect.

    • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:06 pm

      Eddy Martinez.

      • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:13 pm

        Great news, info looks good on this kid. He’s got speed and RH pop. Plays CF. I am dreaming about a stud CFer that can drop 25 bombs a year…

      • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:20 pm

        That would be an awesome turn of events.

    • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:11 pm

      They signed 18-year old Lucius Fox, a shortstop, from the Bahamas, a few months ago. Hopefully he’s not Adrianza II.

  45. zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    So the Padre season ends with a lost weekend vs. L.A.
    Sad ending for a really blah team.

    • Paul Sorensen said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:25 pm

      But hey, they won the off-season …..

      • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:35 pm

        🙂

  46. zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:22 pm

    Too bad the Cubs and Pirates is just one game.

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:24 pm

      Totally agree. Two of the best teams in ball, and it comes down to which ace does better in 2 hours. If it’s game 7 of the WS, it’s great theater. If it’s this situation, after 162 games of toil, I think it’s crap, and unfair to the other fanbase that doesn’t get a home game after supporting its squad through a furious stretch drive…

      • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:28 pm

        I totally agree.

    • willedav said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:35 pm

      I disagree. Everyone has already played 162 over 6 months.
      The longer you extend playoffs, which I’m sure is coming because of all the TV $$$, imo is wrong.
      Hockey is a freaking death march to get to Stanley Cup and NBA isn’t much better.

      • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:40 pm

        Both Wild Card ‘2 out of 3s’ could have started tomorrow, IMO.

  47. zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    A blind monkey throwing darts would have to eventually hit on a great outfield draft-pick for the Giants after decades. Maybe Martinez is finally that pick.

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:27 pm

      Let it be so. I’m not holding my breath…

  48. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    Is Brown not catching because he’s hurt? Or, because this game is meaningless, and they’re giving Williams a game to play in MLB because he may never play in one again?…

  49. willedav said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    If Lurie is right, then that likely means OF=Pence Pagan Blanco Parker Williamson, plus Specs.
    Jenkins yesterday said Williamson might ultimately be the better player despite all the bombs from Parker.

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:51 pm

      I think Williamson has no shot for the 25 next season out of ST. Needs more ABs, less than 1200 in the minors. Missed an entire season with the TJ surgery. He’s 25 though, so he needs to get started in the bigs pretty soon, or it ain’t happening…

  50. Paul Sorensen said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    Once upon a time, if I remember correctly, final won-loss record determined home field advantage. And, again, only if I remember correctly, that sucked in ’97, when the wildcard Marlins hosted the division winning Giants in the NLDS and beat the G’s. This year, if they went by record (as I think they do in hockey.. basketball too?, not sure), the Mets and Dodgers would do the one-game play-in, while the Cards, Bucs, and Cubs awaited the winner of that play-in game. So, how should it be? Won-loss record, or division winners hosting a wildcard team even if the W.C. team had a much better record? In ’97, I was absolutely opposed to the former, but this year, I’d love to see the Bucs and Cubs not have to do the play-in, and let the Mets and Dogs fight it out just to get to the dance…. 🙂

    • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:38 pm

      I’d keep everything the same and just make the Wild Card thing 2 out of 3. I don’t think it would delay things that much. The NLDS isn’t starting until Friday this year anyway. The Wild Card teams don’t need a bunch of days off. They should just be thrilled to be in the playoffs.

      • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:39 pm

        They could have started the Wild Card 2 out of 3, tomorrow.

  51. willedav said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    Another thing about playoffs—-regular season is not going to be shortened. If TV gets their way (and who is going to stop them?) you’ll be watching the World Series during Thanksgiving dinner.
    Do you really think Larry Baer is going to vote for fewer home games and turn down sellouts?

  52. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    My plan is reduce season to 154 or 156 games, extend the wild card to 2 of 3. Make the TV money work…

  53. Paul Sorensen said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    Well, my 1:33 wasn’t really about scheduling, but rather rewarding the best teams by won-loss record at the end of 162 games. This year, that would be the 3 Central Division teams, letting the Mets and Dogs fight it out to make the NLDS. Maybe I’m just liking that concept this year because I like both the Bucs and the Cubs and dislike both the Mets and the Dogs… 🙂

  54. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    Pagan will finish the season with playing in 134 games…

    • Paul Sorensen said, on October 4, 2015 at 2:07 pm

      Feels like just about the most inconsequential 134 games I’ve ever seen from a starter…

      • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 2:11 pm

        Yeah. For about 2 months there he was running on one leg. I’m not nearly down on the guy as much as some Flappers. Maybe the Giants trade him in the off season, not sure if they would get much for him…

  55. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 2:13 pm

    Stat noted on the Lurie show this morning — Romo with a stellar .170 batting against vs. RHBs batters this season, and something like 65Ks with just 2 walks. But, an amazingly opposite cratering .370 being hit against him by LHBs…

  56. Macdog said, on October 4, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    I tune in to catch what I figure to be the final 3 outs, and instead . . . can’t the season just end already?

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 2:52 pm

      I’d call it a tie, and walk off into the off season before somebody gets hurt…

  57. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    Kontos has nothing left, hasn’t really had anything left for a month. Boch obviously overworked this guy in the early-mid season…

  58. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    Well, this game is getting a little tedious, since it’s just meaningless now, and the Giants Pen is in full meltdown.
    I’ve enjoyed this season, for the most part.
    Good play in the first half, despite some predictable (except apparently to Sabevans) cratering/injuries by an aging rotation. The squad could not overcome a sucky rotation, and an unreal number of injuries to top players. Can’t blame players for the injury bug, but management was caught again with its pants down fielding a terribly weak bench. 000 starting for games on end was just unacceptable. The Cards had many injuries, yet they’re heading for the NLDS.
    The bright spots in a non-playoff year are the emergence of Duffy and Tomlinson, and the no-hitter by Heston. I dunno if Heston is the real deal, he dropped off so much after July. The guy needs to strengthen that arm somehow for an entire season of work. Adios to the season…

  59. zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    LOL Krukow. “Petit has been invaluable for the Giants this season.”

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:05 pm

      He meant invisible, but there’s a “homer correct” on Kruk’s microphone…

      • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:12 pm

        Yeah, he has a different mic when he’s on the KNBR morning show, when he speaks a little more critically.

  60. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    Rangers win over Angels, take division. Astros in WC, Angels go home…

  61. zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    This type of season for the Niners:

  62. mrsprtdude said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    Thanks to whoever posted the link to the Duffy article. Nice read, and I now will cheer Casey Mcghee if he is still playing. Class act.

    • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 4:00 pm

      Pay me $5 million and I can act real classy, too! 🙂

  63. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:31 pm

    Kind of fitting that the Rockies come back and tattoo the Giants to send us into the offseason. Rockies are dogmeat, but have punished the Giants all season…

  64. Paul Sorensen said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:46 pm

    Sheesh, how annoying is it to try to watch a game on the MLB network with all those guys just chatting away, full blown mental masturbation, STFU already… 🙂 Hey, I’m not a big Niner fan, and this is the first I’ve seen of them in awhile, but can someone explain to me briefly how they thought CK was their QB of the future? Just curious how that went down….

    • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:52 pm

      He did almost win a Super Bowl, but fell off a cliff after that. His limitations in throwing the ball have gotten exposed. And now their offensive line is bad, so he’s got defenders in his face all the time.

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 4:10 pm

      Niners had a top 5 defense under Harbaugh, and a very good OL. Take those two things away, and the QB’s actual talent level is exposed…

  65. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:52 pm

    Corey Black. RHP for the AA Tennessee Smokies. 37 games pitched, 86 innings, 4.92 ERA, 3-5 record. Ruined the Giants season…

    • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:54 pm

      A Cubs minor leaguer, and the Cubs made the playoffs. Worked out rather nicely for them.

  66. zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:56 pm

    Having said that, I have some friends who are Cubs fans, and I’ll be pulling for the Cubs over the Pirates. 106 years is a heck of a long drought.

    • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 3:58 pm

      Plus, I think the Cubs have the best chance of the other teams to knock out the Dodgers in the NL. If the Cubs can survive that weird one-game playoff, I think they can handle the Cards. And I think Madden will do a Bochy on Matheny and Two-trips.
      Cubs vs. Royals in the World Series!

      • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 4:11 pm

        I’d like to see Toronto.
        They are mashers. I dig the long ball…

      • zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 4:12 pm

        Yeah, Cubs vs. Blue Jays would be alright, too.

  67. zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    The Dodgers got to show off their depth during September; but now, interesting decisions have to be made. Who makes their playoff roster? There’s going to be some butt-hurt Dodgers. Guys who made, in their opinions, significant contributions, who get left off the roster.

  68. zumiee said, on October 4, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    And fans who have been floating fancy free, some for months, with their teams in solid control of playoff spots, now get the stress of playoff games. Sphincters are tightening.

  69. Flavor said, on October 4, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    I’m sure it’s happened a bunch of times, but I wonder how many times the Niners, Raiders, Giants and A’s have all lost on the same day……….

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 4:36 pm

      Future is good to very good with 3 of 4. Niner’s future looks bleak, with a crap coaching staff and poor quality roster, in desperate need of a quarterback…

      • Flavor said, on October 4, 2015 at 4:54 pm

        I want to say it’s amazing how far the NIners have fallen, the steep decline of Kaep, etc. But it’s really not. Jed ditches Harbs and sells us on Sweatsula, half the team retires or gets released for too many run ins with the law, it’s not hard to see this coming. I’m a little surprised with how god awful Kaep has become with his accuracy, but maybe his confidence is just so completely blown he’s broken.
        Keep losing and bring me Goff and Lawler. I’ll take my chances with those 2 in an obvious re-build time……

      • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 4:56 pm

        Throw in some big monster Stanfurd OLman, and we’re on the road to recovery…

      • Flavor said, on October 4, 2015 at 5:04 pm

        agreed. I haven’t kept track, but do we still have a shitload of draftpicks? Can’t we draft Goff and Lawler and turn all those draft picks into a good lineman or two?

      • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 5:10 pm

        Niners have 9 to 12 picks available in the 7 rounds for 2016…
        http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/5/2/8538107/49ers-draft-picks-2016-comp-picks-trades-2016-nfl-draft

  70. djloo27 said, on October 4, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    Actually, Pence and the Giants overcame the broken forearm. They were right there in late August.
    It was a combination of all the other shit that did them in…

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 4:55 pm

      They were something like 34-14 with Pence in the LU. Had he been in the LU all season, they might have been leading the division by 5 or 6 games by late August, even with the crap rotation…

      • djloo27 said, on October 4, 2015 at 5:03 pm

        Well at that pace they would have gone 115-47 if Pence played every game. I know that’s not what you’re saying, but so much other shit went wrong.

      • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 5:15 pm

        Well sure, yeah they wouldn’t keep up that pace. My point being Pence may be more important to the team’s mojo and winning than Posey…

      • djloo27 said, on October 4, 2015 at 5:18 pm

        Yeah, I guess this season he was Mr. Mojo Ailin’…

      • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 9:34 pm

        I missed by a few games. Gyros 34-17 in games Pence started this season…

    • Macdog said, on October 4, 2015 at 7:08 pm

      Giants were 18-18 when Pence came back from the spring training beaning.

  71. Flavor said, on October 4, 2015 at 5:06 pm

    what exactly is majorly wrong with Pence right now? Back? or Wrist? I’ve seen quick shots of him in the dugout this month, he looks yoked and ready to go.

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 5:13 pm

      He’s probably OK now. Just no reason to play him the last 10 games, and risk making that oblique into some sort of chronic deal ready to blow during any season when he takes those wicked cuts. One thing I would do with him, and this means getting better bench OFers, is not play him every friggin game. When he says he wants to play for 15 straight, tell him to F off, and sit down. Same with the other guys. Get a bench that can give the regular players a day off. Crawford, Panik are in that group. Posey gets days off, why not the others — help prevent fatigue and injury…

  72. Flavor said, on October 4, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    Giants led the NL in batting (.267) for first time since ’93. I don’t really keep track of team stats, certainly not batting average, so this surprised me. What does this say about overall quality of batting in the NL? Or looked at another way, what does this say about our hitters?

    • snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 5:21 pm

      Runs scored this season in NL. 4th through 8th: Pirates, SF, Cubs, Mets, Dodgers.
      The difference has to be the pitching. 1st through 5 ERA: Cards, Bucs, Cubs, Mets, Dodgers. Giants 7th…

  73. mrsprtdude said, on October 4, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    We are 7th in pitching? Now that surprises me. They showed a quote by Arrenado. re AT&T..I love to play here. Atmosphere is great, always a full house, and the fans are into it” I’m paraphrasing, but cool none the less.

  74. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    Shocking. Pat Murphy will not return to manage the Pads.
    There will be a good handful of manager spots open this off season. If Wotus doesn’t get one of those this year, it seems more unlikely he ever will. How much longer is Bochy going to manage? Who is on the short list to take over from him? Wotus? Decker? Rags wouldn’t get it, would he?…

  75. snarkk said, on October 4, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    Central div final standings:
    Cards 100 W
    Bucs 98W
    Cubs 97 W
    Giants better get some pitching…

  76. pawliekokonuts said, on October 5, 2015 at 6:17 am

    Since I’m not a sideline reporter, and since I do not watch a lot of football, I am not overly embarrassed to ask: A. Were those oxygen tanks? B. Is that standard? or C. Were they indeed playing on Mars?

  77. pawliekokonuts said, on October 5, 2015 at 6:18 am

    Feel kind of empty without baseball. I know, I know. There IS baseball. But not for me.

  78. willedav said, on October 5, 2015 at 7:30 am

    mm, still not down with more playoff games, tho I’m sure it’s coming. Pit and Chi would not mean much travel, but how about last year?
    As a Giants fan would you have wanted 3 game playoff (with Hudson/Peavey/Vogs after Bum), with travel btw SF and Pit? Hou and NY could potentially have meant 5 days of games/travel too for this season.

    And few teams would benefit moneywise from shorter sched/more playoffs, esp the small market ones losing revenue dates.
    Another great idea I can’t see owners ever voting for.

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