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Losing is Fun!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 10, 2015

What Dodgers blog do you guys go to when you re-post those sad-sack, depressing, nervous, angry posts from their fans? Because I can’t believe they were too stoked to see Kersha come out in the 7th at 113 pitches. Isn’t he your dominant beast? And don’t you have like the worst bullpen in the land?

DeGrom’s performance was *Timmy-like* vs Atlanta although incredibly he had 14 K’s, one more than deGrom, in his masterpiece. Lincecum had 43 strikeouts in the 2010 postseason and this image of him is my favorite from any sport, from any time period…..


just below him, Velez can be seen 50 years in the future on his front porch telling the neighborhood kids about the time he won a World Series and what a bomb-ass stud Tim Lincecum was……

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  1. Carstie Clausen said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:21 am

    Well, well, well. Look at who loses yet another playoff game. Somehow, Opie usually manages to get outmatched in the post-season. Though i don’t care for the Mets, it sure makes one feel good to see the LaBumbos become stumblebums at the Latrine.

  2. willedav said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:55 am

    When Mets were here they won 2 of 3 as I remember, strictly on pitching. Getting Wright back to form a huge plus; of course Cespedes and the kid Conforto added a lot. Surprised to see how many HRs they hit—27 from Duda, 16 from Wilmer Flores, 7 guys with more than 10 in that yard.

    Blogger on cbs site brought up interesting point—would Greinke have been better choice than Op for Game 1?
    Now it’s on him (and Dodger hitters) to salvage their season…or “heads will roll.”

  3. willedav said, on October 10, 2015 at 9:00 am

    Took a look at Card 70 blog, where he previewed yesterday game. Good read in its own way—haven’t yet come across the word “sphincter”, but nothing compares to here.
    Previous posts were from other team bloggers, including KC Mets and LA (did this last year with flav, right?) and asked them set questions.
    One of those was what would be minimum for a successful season. Both LA and KC bloggers said winning at least one series and going deep into next one—KC guy being a lot more hopeful than Dodger guy.

    Kinda funny but Giants season almost seems like success just to get as close as they did.
    Pirates fans already singing blues and ultimately only one of 8 teams left will go home happy. Cubs Cards hate each other so one of them will be royally pissed and if Mets dump LA DTT is probably toast, Greinke bails Kendrick is FA Puig could get dealt yada yada while they spend off season to buy a heart.

  4. xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 9:11 am

    Great flashback post + pic. The first and last games of the 2010 PS are two of the best in Giants history.

  5. eddacker said, on October 10, 2015 at 9:29 am

    It was nice to see the doggers lose and I was one who was surprised Opie started game one. I felt it was an ego boost for him, maybe he needed it. Anyway, to listen to DTT in the post game: “Kershaw was a little out of sync in the 7th” ha!
    Most ffans know, pitching can dominate these short series and it is so far. I am not much into it, but it is baseball and I am a baseball lover. High and tight, baby.

  6. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 9:46 am

    It’s a cheery group at the TrueBlueLA blog:

    damn. the game played out how we feared our weaknesses were. crap bullpen options, check. an offense thats overrated that needs home runs cause it cant hit with risp.check. and elite velocity kills our hitters. mega check.
    well the only thing that didnt go like the regular season was kershaw. 7th inning is his trouble inning. guess teams used to his offspeed, fastball not good enough that late i guess. granderson was really comfortable up there, like the announcers said didnt even flinch when they saw a curveball.

    by ClayDavis on Oct 9, 2015 | 10:07 PM reply

    Dont be so surprised then. I thought this was an even series but i didnt think the dodgers offense could score enough to beat the mets starters.

    by soolongfrankie on Oct 9, 2015 | 10:12 PM up reply

    That is what I thought
    We don’t have the big bat. AGon is aging and possibly hurt. Puig was a big disappointment and can’t hit the hard one and is rusty anyway.

    by LA Native Matt on Oct 9, 2015 | 10:21 PM up reply

  7. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 9:54 am

    That Timmy game 1 masterpiece against the Braves was a complete game; Kershaw has never (so far) taken his team on his shoulders like that. For all of his regular season greatness, Kershaw’s playoff performances have been lacking. It’s hard to explain, but he seems to wilt later in the games.

  8. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 9:58 am

    Kershaw’s playoff record is now 1-6, 4.99 ERA. It’s one of the biggest mysteries in sports.
    And maybe just fluke-ish. As Willie wrote the other day, it seems highly likely that Kershaw will get it together in the playoffs at some point. Hopefully not this year.

  9. snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 10:11 am

    DTT is getting ripped by LA fans just because they can. Kershaw has a history of losing it in the 7th in playoffs, he just walked 3 guys, 113 pitches in, it was hotter than hell during the game — any other manager would have pulled the guy. Maybe the Pen choice was not the best, but Kershaw was done. DTT was probably afraid of a salami from Wright.
    BTW, not sure why, but I’m having to log into WPress every friggin time the last two days…

    • Carstie Clausen said, on October 10, 2015 at 10:20 am

      Seems to me that the best offense against top hurlers like Opie is to draaaaaw out those counts as far as you dare ~ unless he somehow happens to groove one. That is why Buster and Belt are such a great back to back combo. They make the pitcher work. Tomlinson seems to have the same M.O. and to a somewhat lesser degree, both Panik and Duffy. Pence is our only out and out free-swinging hacker and to a lesser degree, Crawford. Great thing about the go-slow/ draw them out/death of a thousand nicks approach is that it gets pitchers off their game-plan and not infrequently off their stride. If this crew is 90% healthy next season they will put on some demonstrations of how to demolish an ace, brick by brick.

  10. Lurker John said, on October 10, 2015 at 10:16 am

    Classic image forever indelibly etched into the psyche of San Francisco Giants fans. The difference between deGrom’s dominating performance and Timmy’s? The Freak tossed a complete game and started the team’s roll to its first WS title as the S.F. Giants. Regardless of where his career is at now, he’s secured his place in the upper echelon of Giants players in any era.

  11. snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 10:18 am

    Yeah, I’m with BF, I’ve often said that photo is my favorite photo in my sports fandom history. Timmy was probably in the middle of an F yeah! we’re Champs!!! yell. One of the reasons I’ve always liked the kid. He wears emotions on his sleeve to some extent. He exulted when it was the right time, and he’s down and wears it when he’s been down. Also from that photo — Willie McCovey does not (at least from a team he was on) have a WS ring — but Count Chocula does. Chew on that for a moment…

  12. snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 10:24 am

    BTW, what is Velez trying to tell Wotus in that photo?
    He’s pointing a finger for emphasis on something.
    I’m seeing in the lower right a side view of what looks like Fontenot — remember that dude? And who’s that guy in front of Fontenot with an upper back the size of a Longhorn bull — is that Uribe?
    I’d like to know who’s toting Timmy on his back — I can’t tell…

  13. xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    High Heat Stats MLB (@HighHeatStats) tweeted at 10:36 AM on Sat, Oct 10, 2015:
    13+ K in post-season debut:
    J deGrom 2015
    T Lincecum 2010
    M Scott 1986
    M Boddicker 1983
    J Candelaria 1975
    J Coleman 1972
    H Ehmke 1929

    Boddicker threw a CG, too, I believe. But all this just serves to highlight the point: Lincecum’s best was among the very best, ever.

  14. Paul Sorensen said, on October 10, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    Yeah, love the Fuck Yeah! spirit that Timmy brought to the team. There they were in 2010, swimming in somewhat uncharted waters, so long since the last good march thru the post-season, and such a surprising team at that, and when Timmy yelled that in the dugout after…. Uribe’s homerun was it? I forget now… it just made it all seemed possible. Also loved Tim’s concentration and focus. I remember in Game 5 of the Series in Arlington, Timmy finished what I think was the 8th inning, and he walked off the mound, figuring that was it for him, and this baby was in the bag. The look on his face was just a quiet confident “yeah, we got this”… Tremendous.

  15. snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    Timmy’s game 1 NLDS 2010:

    Look where his left foot lands on delivery after delivery, and compare that landing position to any more recent video when he’s had his control issues…

  16. snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 1:15 pm

    College football rankings are absolute crap. Oklahoma ranked 10th loses to unranked and heretofore crappy Texas, who lost at home to 23rd ranked Cal just two weeks ago. Ohio State is still ranked #1 going into today, though it hasn’t been blowing anybody away. The only thing that will ever legitimize a “national champion” in NCAA first division football will be at least an 8-team playoff. BTW, Cal IMO has a puncher’s chance in Utah today. Utah is probably the most balanced team across the the Pac 12. For Cal to have a shot today, they’ve got to limit Utah special team’s big plays, and Cal’s offense will just have to score and score, and score some more…

    • Flavor said, on October 10, 2015 at 1:18 pm

      really looking forward to that Cal game. Today I think we really get to find out who they *are*. Utah is good.

      • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 1:38 pm

        On paper, and based on competition each team has won against, Utah should win by at least 2 TDs. Everything has to go right for the Bears to win this one. Win the turnover battle, the defense limits its usual stupid mistakes and penalties in the secondary, and Sonny Dykes doesn’t make stupid calls in the 4th quarter if the game is still in doubt. I hope the Bears kicking game and special teams isn’t called on to do anything “special”, because that would be trouble. I’d expect at least one trick play from Cal today, too. A plus is that Lasco should be in good shape to run today for the Bears. If they get a running game going, that will free up Goff to throw big time…

    • wilcojoe said, on October 10, 2015 at 2:35 pm

      Texas flat out came to play today. That’s what makes college football so great. Games like that ONLY happen in college athletics. They could have beat any team in the country today, As long as the opponents were wearing OU on the helmet, it wouldn’t have mattered. Gotta love a rivalry game. Those kids were tired of getting their asses handed to them and they came to play…Cal has a serious chance to run the table in a weakened Pac 10. Goff is a total stud. He would look great in a Niner uni.

      • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:25 pm

        Niners should just lose out, and pick Goff. Seriously. In the NFL, you are dogmeat unless you have an elite to near elite QB. Problem is, if they got Goff, they’d need to bring in an offensive staff that could teach him and use him properly, and seriously upgrade that OL so he wouldn’t get creamed his first 2 seasons. I think Goff could be the next Elway, if circumstances break right for him…

  17. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 1:30 pm

    Hilarious and awesome- Byrnes and gang on the MLB Network, in the simulated Studio 42 “ballpark,” reenacting the great slide at homeplate in the Texas game. Byrnes going all out on the headfirst slide on that carpet. That is great TV. Cliff Floyd was unable to stop laughing.

    • zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 1:36 pm

      Floyd made the throw, and the show host played catcher.
      What a cool wiffleball ballpark that would be.

  18. xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    btw, anybody notice that Angel Hernandez, Phil Cuzzi and CB Bucknor were behind the plate in three games last night? According to Hank Schulman (who seems to be dealing with his lymphoma chemo pretty well), those umps earned the gigs based on the analyses of their work over the course of the season. The analyses, of course, depended on the new technology that tracks pitches and pitch calls. I guess the message is clear: Be careful what you wish for.

    • zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:03 pm

      I am ready for the electronic homeplate balls-and-strikes ump.

      • xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:08 pm

        I think the pitch-cannon robotic closer has a future, too.

  19. xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    wow. St L was not ready for what was obviously going to occur. Turribul defense. L League-ish.

    • zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:11 pm

      Cubs utilizing the ground-game.

      • zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:13 pm

        And the air-game!

  20. snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    What was that stat the other day on the Flap — the balls/strikes technology can 3D the ball to within 5/8″ inch or something of where the ball actually is in a strike zone constructed for each batter? In real time? WTF are we waiting for? I don’t need the human element of Joe West to call a strike that is 5″ outside the black on Belt, or a strike is 2″ below Posey’s ankle, or a pitch at the belt from Bum is too high. Like I said before, if baseball can’t stomach replacing these dipstick umps calling balls and strikes that are incongruous with the real strike zone under the rules, then give the manager a method to somehow, at sometime, protest a third strike or a 4th ball…

    • zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:16 pm

      Well said.

    • xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:22 pm

      remove the ump behind the plate and replace him with what? Someone in NY with a command of the field via cameras who can be the ump in chief? bullshit. that’s a video game.

      • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:28 pm

        Like I said, if you don’t want balls and strikes called fairly, accurately, with no bias or hidden agenda and within the actual rules of what a strike zone is, fine, keep the dumpire behind the plate. But, give the managers the same chance as they have now at other miscalls, i.e., at protesting a bullshit ball/strike call that erroneously or even with bad intent extends/ends an inning, a rally, or a game. I am no longer willing to just accept as “part of the game” an umpire giving Greinke a strike zone that is not close to the one he gives to Heston because Heston is a no-name rook, or to the one given to Bum, because the ump thinks Bum showed him up in the first inning…

      • xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:54 pm

        If you watch the replay of Cain’s perfecto, you’ll see that the ump in that game gave Matt a lot of strike calls that would’nt’ve been strikes for other umps–especially calls on some FBs on the outside corner, at the belt. Or higher. Cain’s mechanics that night were in sync with that ump’s zone. Does that diminish his accomplishment? (Let’s set aside for now the fact that he was facing then lowly Houston.)

        Baseball games develop, for lack of better words, naturally, organically. Games before, games looming after, weather, injuries, foibles of the players, the coaches, the umps, and the time and the base-running divots during the game and more all factor into the play. The umps are an integral part of it, like the wind, the high sky, the rain. I’d hate to see that go just as much as I hate to see games played in that Tampa dome. Sealed domes and bad astroturf were the advances of the first attempt to impose technological control over baseball. The lesson from that era? Don’t over reach.

      • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 4:10 pm

        There was the “sky is falling” argument against replay before it began. Now, we accept it because we see how many wrong calls it fixes. Same with balls/strikes. I can do without umps having an unfettered ball/strike call, I accept that maybe others can’t. IMO, a protestable option on balls/strikes will keep these rogue umps a little more honest, and maybe more professional. There was a minor league game in Marin this past summer with balls/strikes called by some kind of video technology set up. No home plate ump. Bruce Jenkins saw the game, said he didn’t miss the home plate ump at all. I wouldn’t miss Joe West or Angel Hernandez or Phil Cuzzi for a second. I think it’s crap that I have reason to know their names. The Galaraga missed call costing him a perfect game moved MLB to replay in the first place. I hope something down the road will move MLB on balls/strikes, too…

      • xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 4:29 pm

        that’s not what Jenkins said. If you want an ump in chief deferring to computerized calls that might be subject to manager challenges, fine. I don’t. Here’s what Jenkins said about the Byrnes PR event:


      • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 4:55 pm

        Jenkins said it on KNBR. And, that’s exactly what I want. I want Bochy to have the ability to challenge an absolute bullshit ball/strike call, whether by incompetence, accident or spite. I want the protested call to be shown on the scoreboard video screen, with the strike zone superimposed, so that when Joe West calls a pitch a ball against Bum that is knee high down the middle, it’s there for all to see how incompetent he is, and be overturned. Only then will these dumpires have incentive to call balls/strikes as intended by the rules, without bias and with competence. I’d rather have a computer call the balls strikes, as I’ve said before, and relay the call wirelessly to a hot woman in a black uniform behind the plate who can make the call in whatever style she wants. The result will be better calls, and more entertainment…

      • xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 6:25 pm

        play ball, not video games

  21. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    Lots of Cubs fans in the Cards’ ballpark.

  22. xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:18 pm

    all that pre-game talk about the shadows and the change ups turns out to be horseshit–except for Pedro M’s demonstration of his various change up grips and releases. “And at release this finger tip would flip this seam and give the ball a side ways spin that let me back door righties and . . . .” etc. Beautiful stuff.

    • zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:21 pm

      That was cool. I saw that.

      • xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:25 pm

        made those Krukow pitch-grip previews we see on comcast seem very lame by comparison. and I don’t like to dump on Krukow. But still.

  23. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    Nice play on the 6-3, on both ends. Great D from the Cubs.

  24. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    Those two idiots in the Sonic commercials are kind of funny.

  25. snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    Cubs can definitely hit. At 6-1 they should have this game in the bag…

  26. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    Weekend USA Today lists the salaries of Division I football coaches. Wash. St. guy is making 2.5 million. Who’da thunk it. Cal and Stanford 2 million each. Alabama dooosh makes 7 million.

    • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 5:13 pm

      That’s Coach Doosh to you, zum…

    • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 5:21 pm

      zum, Cal is getting Sonny Dykes at a relative bargain. When Cal fired him, Tedford had 3 years left on his deal at $2.3M per year. They settled it out for $5.5 million…

  27. Flavor said, on October 10, 2015 at 5:25 pm

    you leave the ump behind the plate, he just doesn’t call balls and strikes.

    • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 5:27 pm

      I’m down with that option, too…

    • djloo27 said, on October 10, 2015 at 5:31 pm

      They could probably get a little robot to yell “play ball” and dust off the plate once in a while…

      • xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 6:24 pm

        and the DH and closer could be robots, too.

      • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 6:51 pm

        NO, just the home plate ump, let’s lose the strawman. Players stay players…

  28. Carstie Clausen said, on October 10, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    Cubs win! In the beginning the scored 5 times. Cubbie Conga Line, wouldja believe?

  29. xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 6:28 pm

    A Cespedes for the rest of us

    • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 6:49 pm

      I would LUV LUV LUV Cespedes to be a Giant…

  30. Flavor said, on October 10, 2015 at 6:36 pm

    I am for the *human element* to the game to a point. But listening to Kruk rattle off all his “low ball/high ball ump” bullshit couple with his “you gotta earn it from this ump” nonsense has me 100% behind robot umpires. Fuck these guys, who are they to make the strike zone theirs? K-Zone doesn’t participate in such silly *look at me* endeavors……..

    • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 6:43 pm

      100% agree.
      I’m tired of these Phat “human element” Phucks like Joe West throwing their weight around, with a “look at me” attitude, just itching for Bum to give him a reason to thrown Bum outta the game. WTF is THAT about? You pay $85 – $100 to see Bum pitch in View level, and JOE friggin nobody West can toss him outta the game in the 3rd or whenever for looking cross eyed at West after a ridiculous balls/strikes call? It’s ALL about the players, and the game. Fans could give a rat’s ass about who’s umpiring, so if a computer calls the balls and strikes, so much the better. Unbiased, no axe to grind, no grudges from 10 years back, always accurate, and consistent the entire game long. As long as the power line is plugged in…

  31. snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 6:46 pm

    BTW, Go Bears!…

  32. xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    umps are easy targets. go at it. booing the umps is ok; home town players? Only in very rare cases. William Kennedy had it right in Ironweed. A minor league battery shamed a bad ump by substituting an apple for the ball. The ump called the pitch, oblivious. The catcher stood up, raised the apple to the crowd, and then took a bite out of it. Problem right now is that when you put the umps to the computerized test, the guys who pass turn out to be the assholes. So replace them, because they’re doing ok? Good plan.

  33. snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    Technology can and has made the game more fair and true. If we can show a runner is actually out when he’s been called safe by an ump, the truth is fair to the game. The only errors that must stand are those made by the players themselves. This goes for calling balls and strikes, which are the calls that control an at bat. Baseball is a game that’s fair and true as long as the rules are followed. When umps don’t follow the strike zone rules from one player to another, the players’ skills and the game is cheated. Instead of being subject to players’ skill, it becomes an arbitrary and capricious exercise…

  34. xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    So you want to replace umps with computerized technology. I think I get your point. I don’t want that. “Fair and true” is bullshit. imo. Lie detectors fail, computers fail, cameras miss shit all the time. If you don’t have umps on the field making calls, then you’ll have umps in the video room making calls, double-checking the robots on the field. Now that’s entertainment. Play ball.

    • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:41 pm

      I’ll take the technology over Joe friggin West all night long…

      • xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 8:46 pm

        yeah, my kids hate Joe West too. I think it’s the neck.

  35. wilcojoe said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:28 pm

    Goff looked great on that first drive. Gets a great pass off under pressure and Lawler lets it slip thru his hands.

    • xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:40 pm

      here in North Oakland (South Berkeley, according to some) I can’t get the first quarter on the tv. I still see Lane Kiffen and his visor pacing the sidelines. espn sucks.

      • wilcojoe said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:42 pm

        They moved it to ESPN News, but now it appears to be back on ESPN.

    • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:40 pm

      As usual, Cal making mistakes. They just can’t shake making great plays, then making mistakes…

  36. wilcojoe said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    I get both sides of the umpire vs. robot argument. One thing I have seen lately that I despise is the review of the sliding baserunner taking his body off the bag, ever so quickly and only noticeable under a cameras slo mo eye, being called out upon review. That should not be a reviewable play.

    • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:44 pm

      Agreed. That is ticky tack BS. Should be a way to stop that. If you beat the throw, you’re safe. Only thing is where do you call one play the body is just barely off the bag BS, another the guy has rolled pretty far off the bag because he slid late or some such, and should be susceptible to being tagged out?…

  37. wilcojoe said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    Picture perfect TD pass.

    • snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:47 pm

      Dang, the Niners need this kid tomorrow night.
      Meanwhile, I’ll take him for the Bears. He’s got a gun, and touch…

  38. snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 7:57 pm

    Well, Cal apparently wants to give this one away…

  39. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    Syndedgaard is good, but his secondary pitches still need a little work.

  40. djloo27 said, on October 10, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    That LA radar gun can’t be right…

  41. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    Doesn’t hold runners well.

  42. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 8:36 pm

    Fred Flintstone coming in to pitch now.

  43. xoot said, on October 10, 2015 at 8:43 pm

    utley’s slide was wide and dirty.

  44. djloo27 said, on October 10, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    Cue the Pete Rose/Bud Harrelson video from ’73…

  45. djloo27 said, on October 10, 2015 at 8:53 pm

    Nobody knows the fuckin’ rules anymore…

  46. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    Terrible 0-2 pitch. Missed the location badly.

  47. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    Russell sucks. Why go to him?

  48. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 9:03 pm

    0-2 pitch to Gonzalez right down the middle. That’s the kind of mistake that ends a ballgame.

  49. zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    Oh well; a split was about the best the Mets were going to do in the first two games.

  50. gianthead said, on October 10, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    Utley proven again to be a dirty player…karma will come back on him and the Dodgers as it had with Giants and Scutaro against Holliday and the Cards…

    • zumiee said, on October 10, 2015 at 9:37 pm

      Maybe he got a concussion.

  51. snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    New rule probably coming on these second base slides. Utley didn’t even get near the bag. He slid totally late, sliding only when he was even with the bag, not in front of it. That’s two 2nd basemen now on playoff teams taken out with broken legs from runners sliding a rolling block nowhere near the bag…

  52. snarkk said, on October 10, 2015 at 11:23 pm

    Even under the current rules, he should have been called out for interference. Since the umps aren’t calling it, there needs to be a new rule requiring the runner to slide into the bag. And, the ump should have the ability to throw the runner out of the game if he violates the rule to hit the fielder in a vulnerable position…

    Rule 6.05:

    A batter is out when —

    (m) A preceding runner shall, in the umpire’s judgment, intentionally interfere with a fielder who is attempting to catch a thrown ball or to throw a ball in an attempt to complete any play:

    Rule 6.05(m) Comment: The objective of this rule is to penalize the offensive team for deliberate, unwarranted, unsportsmanlike action by the runner in leaving the baseline for the obvious purpose of crashing the pivot man on a double play, rather than trying to reach the base. Obviously this is an umpire’s judgment play.

    Rule 7.09:

    It is interference by a batter or a runner when —

    (e) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner.

  53. zumiee said, on October 11, 2015 at 5:40 am

    Most teams would have brought in a LOOGY to face Gonzalez. The Mets brought in righty Russell.

  54. Carstie Clausen said, on October 11, 2015 at 6:07 am

    Wonder if the Mets file a protest with the commissioner and call a major press-conference in the process. If Ultley’s slide was already covered by the rules and the umps did not adhere to the book, things could get really messy in a hurry. If the outcome of the game hinged on that action and its lack of consequences as laid out in the rule-book, we could be looking at some further developments.

    At the very least there will now be some extremely bad blood between the Mets and the Dogs.

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