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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 21, 2015

Anyone believe in that dumb Billy Goat curse? Found out this morning that the goat was named *Murphy*. That’s funny. Reading back on the history is even funnier. The owner said “You are never going to win another World Series again because you insulted my goat!” How absurd is that? It sounds like something said in a dispute between two middle eastern farmers except substitute “cricket championship” for “world series.”

Anyway, today is going to be interesting. A couple of teams might be finding out it doesn’t matter how many wins you pile up in the regular season. It’s all about stepping up in the post season……. #3in5

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  1. sfsarge said, on October 21, 2015 at 9:34 am

    Well the goat curse is sure a cute story anyway.

  2. chipower9 said, on October 21, 2015 at 9:40 am

    Good thread, Flav…

    Baaaaaa…says Murphy…

    And you are right…it is all about timing…getting hot when it matters. Those 162 go out the fucking window and do not mean squat. Crazy game that we all adore and love so much. I love baseball.

  3. sfsarge said, on October 21, 2015 at 9:40 am

    I watched bits and pieces of the game last night. I’ve not been able to watch as much of these games as I would like, but based on the few plays that I did see, the stage seems a little big and the lights a little too bright for the lovable losers.

  4. chipower9 said, on October 21, 2015 at 9:41 am

    Zumiee – thanks for the dodger misery you shared last thread. Love to see the suffering. There is a part of me that kind of feels sorry for them. Just kidding…suffer away, bitches.

  5. xoot said, on October 21, 2015 at 9:43 am

    Great detail on the goat. I hope Murphy blasts another HR tonight.

  6. Bozo said, on October 21, 2015 at 10:20 am

    It was the owner of the Billy Goat Tavern, I think it was the bars mascot or something. I’ve had a burger at the one on Michigan Ave (I guess their first location), it wasn’t that good, but it was fun to hang out there. Besides putting a curse on the Cubs, I think it’s also where SNL got the Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger skit, and yeah, it was a lot like that. Nothing like smelling 50/60 years of grease while sucking down an Old Style.

    • Bozo said, on October 21, 2015 at 10:40 am

      Man, they even keep a curse tote board up on their website “Who Stinks Now? 70 years 0 months 15 days”. That’s pretty harsh.
      http://www.billygoattavern.com/

      • chipower9 said, on October 21, 2015 at 11:21 am

        That is hilarious…thanks for the share (and laugh), John. I am still pulling for those “loveable losers,” but they are running outta time. It is looking more and more like a Mets-Midwest Republitards series.

      • Bozo said, on October 21, 2015 at 12:57 pm

        Yeah Chuck, it cracked me up too. Reminded me of a bar in New Orleans called Molly’s at the Market. Back in the 80s they had a sign on their TV that said something like “If you want to watch the Saints, go to another bar. We only watch NFL games here”. Just brutal for a home town tavern.

      • chipower9 said, on October 21, 2015 at 2:05 pm

        LMOA. Good one. I remember watching a Niner game years ago, against the Falcons (when they really sucked, adn the Braves sucked then, too). A fan in the stands had a sign that read:

        “Go Falcons…And Take the Braves With You!”

        Almost as bad/good as the Aints with their brown paper bags…

  7. Irish Kevin said, on October 21, 2015 at 11:23 am

    Listening to Kruk on KNBR this morning, he commented that the Cubs hitters were hackers and that they need to make the starting Pitcher work, rather than just going up there hacking.

  8. alleykat69 said, on October 21, 2015 at 12:06 pm

    The “Curse of the Murph” will live on!!
    Isn’t today” Back to the Future” predicted the Cubs to win the World Series? So much for that coming true..

    • Flavor said, on October 21, 2015 at 2:02 pm

      it would actually be pretty funny if today was the day they were eliminated from the post season…….

  9. wilcojoe said, on October 21, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    What’s not funny is the lack of offense in this game. I went in heavy on fan duel (way more than I normally do) with both of these lineups and I didn’t expect this.

  10. zumiee said, on October 21, 2015 at 3:19 pm

    I’m fine with the Mets defeating the Cubs in this series, but I’d kind of like the Cubs to win today so that the series isn’t over yet. I just want the baseball season to stretch out a little longer. I’m glad Toronto is winning today, to lengthen the series; but I’m fine with either team winning that series. I prefer KC over Toronto, so KC has a chance to end their 30 year drought. All 4 teams have long droughts, of course.

    • wilcojoe said, on October 21, 2015 at 3:33 pm

      Mike and Mike (maybe ESPN’s only national show that actually gives baseball it’s due) made a good point this morning. They said it would really suck if the LCS’s end today since there would be no baseball for a week. The sport would lose a lot of the enthusiasm that it has generated this postseason. Of course With football and the NBA starting next week, the fall classic may just be an afterthought.

      Manfred needs to change the set in stone scheduling that the MLB currently uses for their post season.

      • zumiee said, on October 21, 2015 at 3:55 pm

        Plus, I was driving yesterday, and the Mets/Cubs game was nowhere to be found on the AM dial. How did it come to this? I remember, over the years, always being able to listen to the LCS games on the radio. That’s just kind of sad what’s happened in that regard. Plus, the TV games being on relatively smaller cable networks, FS1 and TBS.

      • wilcojoe said, on October 21, 2015 at 4:09 pm

        Yep Zum, same thing happened to me. I thought I read where all the games were on ESPN radio, yet the local Houston affiliate was airing their idiot Houston goobers. I guess each station can decide whether to air national programming or their own crap. I got the latter.

  11. zumiee said, on October 21, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    What an odd name, in my opinion, for a ballpark: the Rogers Centre.

    • gianthead said, on October 21, 2015 at 5:22 pm

      How perfectly Canadian though….

    • Carstie Clausen said, on October 21, 2015 at 5:36 pm

      Rogers is a huge, dominant Canuckian cable network.

  12. zumiee said, on October 21, 2015 at 3:51 pm

    Someone had this list of free agent starting pitchers online, in categories. I assume “Shark” means Simardziga? I’m not that into “courting” high-priced starting pitchers again. Last year kind of put me off of that. Yeah, go visit the guy at his house, and offer him over a hundred million dollars, and he signs with someone else. And then, some of those guys didn’t even pitch well in the playoffs. I would offer Greinke a lot, because it also hurts the Dodgers, but I do see the case against offering Greinke that kind of money.

    Tier 1 starters:
    Greinke
    Price
    Zimmerman
    Cueto

    Tier 2 Starters:
    Shark
    Iwakuma
    Gallardo
    Fister
    Kazmir
    Lackey

    Tier 3:
    Leake
    Happ
    Lincecum
    Kennedy
    Masterson
    Simon

    • Flavor said, on October 21, 2015 at 4:07 pm

      I love Iwakuma, but again, not for 100 million

  13. gianthead said, on October 21, 2015 at 5:17 pm

    This is why I bet the Mets in early September. I thought this was a close reincarnation on our 2010 Giants. Just those frickin Astros blew the other half of the bet.

    But I think the Royals will end up beating the Mets in the WS…

    • Flavor said, on October 21, 2015 at 5:21 pm

      what were the odds on all the teams b4 you bet?

      • gianthead said, on October 21, 2015 at 5:28 pm

        Shit I got the Mets – Stros at 22-1 and Stros – Pirates then at 40-1. I just can’t remember the others but obviously in early Sept Dodgers – Royals were the lowest odds maybe 10-1. Then when the Blue Jays finished Sept I think them vs Dodgers had lowest odds but I simply can’t remember. Would guess Royals. Vs. Cubs and vs. Mets was somewhere between 10-1 and 15-1….but pure guess. Rangers were not on a my one’s screen then….

      • Flavor said, on October 21, 2015 at 5:55 pm

        oh, so you had to pair the team to hit, I get it now.

      • gianthead said, on October 21, 2015 at 6:30 pm

        Yeah same bet I hit in 2012 when I hit Giants-Tigers at 16-1. I had Giants-O’s last year at I think 15-1 and Royals f’d that up. But those bets were made at the start of the playoffs.

        But my almost monster hit last year was at the start of the NBA season I bet Warriors – Wizards at 150-1! Wiz were one win from beating the Hawks and getting into the conference finals where they may have given the Cavs a run for the money if they had been healthy. Won’t get odds like that this year with the Dubs…Giants – Stros next year may be interesting….

  14. zumiee said, on October 21, 2015 at 5:22 pm

    Duda!!??!!
    Oh, Cubs, you’re in trouble.

    • Flavor said, on October 21, 2015 at 5:56 pm

      He can start swinging a hot bat out of nowhere.

  15. wilcojoe said, on October 21, 2015 at 6:05 pm

    I like Joe Madden but I get tired of all the love he gets while Bochy wins three rings in five years and still no one outside of SF barely remembers his name. Must be the glasses. Maybe Pawlie has an extra pair he can send Bochy.

  16. snarkk said, on October 21, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    Barring heroics, looks like Cubs will remain lovable losers for at least another season…

    • djloo27 said, on October 21, 2015 at 6:44 pm

      I didn’t find them lovable this season.
      Fuck them, too…

  17. wilcojoe said, on October 21, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    Wow, Stephen Matz plays Alphaville for his walk up music? That makes Josh Reddick’s choice of Wham seem manly by comparison.

    • Flavor said, on October 21, 2015 at 7:05 pm

      this is Schwarber’s walk up song. This made me like him a lot more, I loved this song back in the day

  18. djloo27 said, on October 21, 2015 at 7:03 pm

    Wonder if Bartman is still a fan…

  19. djloo27 said, on October 21, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    Schwarber couldn’t judge a wet T-shirt contest…

    • Flavor said, on October 21, 2015 at 7:16 pm

      I’d trade Posey for Schwarber and one of their A-pitching prospects. I think he’s going to be that good. And obviously, I’m factoring their contracts into that deal.

      • djloo27 said, on October 21, 2015 at 7:24 pm

        Francesa here on WFAN compares him to Thome…
        Ever notice how white athletes are only compared to other white athletes and black to black?
        Most blatantly with NFL quarterbacks…

      • Flavor said, on October 21, 2015 at 7:29 pm

        NFL QB comparisons are the worst—Randall Cunningham, Doug Williams….And then the obvious comparisons to running QB’s. It is blatant racism. Something I’ve always wondered about but haven’t looked into: how bad did the Latin players get fucked on MVP and CY awards in the 60’s and 70’s?

      • xoot said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:12 pm

        Mays and Mantle were compared constantly in the 50s.

      • djloo27 said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:26 pm

        True, there’s the occasional exception, but I’d say they’re pretty rare, Xoot…

      • xoot said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:39 pm

        Barry Bonds/Ruth. Marichal/Koufax/Gibson. But so far I’ve only listed the best of the best. So rare indeed. I’m not disagreeing.

  20. djloo27 said, on October 21, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    Think the Giants have a blockbuster in ’em?

    • Flavor said, on October 21, 2015 at 7:27 pm

      I mean, of course not. Posey is tied into their long term plan, their marketing etc… I’m just saying, I think Schwarber is going to be a beast. How about this for a blockbuster deal: Posey and Bum for Schwarber, Rizzo, and Fowler? None of it works because Posey is so fucked up heavy in salary, but if you think about it, that’s not that crazy of a deal…….

      • wilcojoe said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:00 pm

        I agree the Giants wouldn’t do it in large part due to the whole “face of the franchise” shit. As a fan, I am morphing more and more away from the “Lets lock a guy up so he can be OUR guy until the day he retires” bullshit. No one player is bigger than the collective. They are commodities whose value peak at x date and then its a slow, somtimes quick (Lincecum) decline.

        In twenty five years when we look back on the 3 in 5, there will not be one player we can point to and say “it was all because of him.” Bum’s 2014 postseason was the exception to the rule. He did carry the team on his back for three rounds of play.

        I personally think Bum and Posey should be unloaded in the next two-three years (maybe sooner?) to maximize the return on their investment. In fact in order for the Giants (or any team) to remain competitive in today’s game, knowing the precise moment to deal your (former) blue chip stocks will be what separates the winners from the losers. I for one, have no problem with that whatsoever.

  21. Bozo said, on October 21, 2015 at 7:31 pm

    http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2015/10/21/9585870/sf-giants-free-agent-rumors-trades

    Everything y’all already knew…

    • Flavor said, on October 21, 2015 at 7:37 pm

      still, a really good article……

  22. Flavor said, on October 21, 2015 at 7:33 pm

    I’m so stoked we don’t have to hear about that Back 2 the Future prediction anymore. Uh, assuming they lose….Or is this going to turn into a Back to the Future prediction? I’m so confused……

  23. wilcojoe said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:02 pm

    Murphy’s law! Add that to your list of curses.

  24. xoot said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:10 pm

    Goat Song (i.e. tragedy) for the cubbies. I want to remind the cubbies that the Giants have a Murphy in the clubhouse, just waiting to hex them, too.

    • Flavor said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:13 pm

      ha! just biding his time…..technically he already dropped some hexy juju on them back in ’89

      • xoot said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:27 pm

        excellent call. What about 98? Did Shooter temporarily equalize the spell? Maybe so. RIP. As to the cubbies now, fuck em.

  25. willedav said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    Cubs had a fair amount to do with Giants not making this season, so I’m not upset they’re gonzo.
    I’d also imagine their pitching prospects are off limits given how their SPs performed this post season, Arrieta included. Maddon, imo, is way over rated.
    As is batting the SP 8th.
    As is going off in presser and starting a bean ball war with Cards, something that if he’d done while LaRussa was still mgr. would have gotten at least one or two of his players plunked.

  26. djloo27 said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    Remind me never to go to McFadden’s. Did they look that idiotic in Finnerty’s?

  27. djloo27 said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    You can hear a pin drop outside on the streets of once baseball crazy Brooklyn…

    • willedav said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:50 pm

      what about when Tortorella comes back to town?

  28. willedav said, on October 21, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    Looks like more baseball post season in November. I don’t like it.
    Season starts in April, ST is in March.
    Now you’ve got pro and college football mid season, NHL is half dozen games in and NBA starts next week.
    All this stuff is available on one network or another, every single day of week. TV is tail wagging the dog around.

    Shortening reg season for all of above is a great idea that is never happening, baseball included. Why would small mkt teams ever agree to it? Brewers and Reds are gonna suck and have little or no chance of raking in any playoff money…so why would they ever give up a few home dates and take money out of their own pockets?

  29. unca_chuck said, on October 22, 2015 at 9:58 am

    Yeah, setting the schedule to get all this time off this late int he season is more TV bullshit. Selig bending over to the TV Gods all in the name of money.


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