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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 13, 2015

Kuip on radio this am saying he fully expects to big free agent pick ups. Who are your two guesses?

I’m out of town this weekend but I’ll be checking in and will post a new thread if any big news crops up.

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  1. Carstie Clausen said, on November 13, 2015 at 9:04 am

    Looking at the development of Clayton Blackburn, who led the PCL in ERA this past season, my suspicion is that SF will still be in the hunt for a #2 starter but not so interested in a #3. So they may pay big bucks to get a partner for Bumgarner. Though i’d prefer a centerfielder, they might also spring for a leftfielder. It may well be Cespedes. Other needs will be addressed from the pipeline (like Blackburn) or in trades. Byrd would make for a great RH bat off the bench if he would be satisfied with a non-starting (occasionally platooning) role.

  2. zumiee said, on November 13, 2015 at 9:20 am

    Greinke!! (I dare to dream.) 🙂
    Leake. (Not a thrilling pick.)

  3. pawliekokonuts said, on November 13, 2015 at 9:33 am

    I don’t know, but rather shocked that Andrelton Simmons is traded. Why do ‘they’ feel compelled to call him the best defensive SS?

  4. unca_chuck said, on November 13, 2015 at 9:51 am

    Leake and Cespedes.

    • Flavor said, on November 13, 2015 at 9:56 am

      Loo might ruin his computer screen with a giant load if we sign Cespy

      • unca_chuck said, on November 13, 2015 at 10:23 am

        I’m sure he has plenty of plastic wrap.

      • snarkk said, on November 13, 2015 at 9:36 pm

        If the Giants pickup Cespedes, they’ll have to wrap ATT in Saran Wrap for me…

  5. pawliekokonuts said, on November 13, 2015 at 10:23 am

    ESPN suggesting Matt Harvey for Mookie Betts. Meh.

  6. chipower9 said, on November 13, 2015 at 10:25 am

    I am with Unca…Leake and Cespedes. I also think Zimmerman is a possibility, in lieu of taking a Leake…

  7. chipower9 said, on November 13, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    Here is a good trade rumors read, although a bit dated (prior to the team declining Aoki and Byrd’s options). The one guy who I have never heard of that is mentioned as a potential SP signing is Kenta Maeda from Japan. His numbers for the Japan league look good. The dude is of slight build though…being listed at 6′ and only 54 pounds.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/san-francisco-giants/page/2

  8. Macdog said, on November 13, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    Leake (does he count as big?) and either Zimm or Samardalphabet.

  9. Bozo said, on November 13, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    I’m sticking with what I said a couple of days ago-

    Bozo said, on November 12, 2015 at 5:41 am (Edit)

    Get Fister on the cheap and let Rags sort him out.
    Go for Zimmerman, tell Leake to fuck himself.
    Get Upton for LF

    For the record, I would hate to see Leake wearing the SF logo again. I would love for him to be on another team and our pitchers turn him into a Whak-A-Mole game. Fuck him. I hope he ends up in Philly.

    • chipower9 said, on November 13, 2015 at 2:31 pm

      Hey, don’t sugar coat it John…tell us how you REALLY feel about Springing a Leake. LMAO…

  10. alleykat69 said, on November 13, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    Time to open up the pocket books..
    Grienke, Smardzza(however you spell his freakin name)& Cespedes are my picks…

    • giants54 said, on November 13, 2015 at 4:34 pm

      haha….And you despise LA for its profligate ways.

  11. zumiee said, on November 13, 2015 at 3:33 pm

    I really soured on Smorecheeseonmypizza. He seemed not so thrilling this past season. Or maybe that’s just the games I saw him on TV.

  12. zumiee said, on November 13, 2015 at 3:51 pm

    Paris was rocked by a terrorist attack. And the insanity continues.

  13. unca_chuck said, on November 13, 2015 at 4:04 pm

    Multiple attacks it looks like.

  14. giants54 said, on November 13, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    Expect Trump and other republicans to remind everyone the French have some of the strictest gun laws in the world…

    • Bozo said, on November 13, 2015 at 6:30 pm

      I agree G54, but I really hope none of the wannabes use this for their political spew because this is some major fucked up shit.

  15. djloo27 said, on November 13, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    Kimbrel to the Bosox…

  16. zumiee said, on November 13, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    Eric Stephen:
    “Mark McGwire’s name has surfaced as a possible hitting coach in Arizona, where he could reunite with team president Tony LaRussa, who was the manager in St. Louis for the first two of McGwire’s three years as hitting coach with the Cardinals, and who managed the first nine years of McGwire’s playing career in Oakland.
    “Hey, that’s a great name,” Diamondbacks manager Chip Hale said of McGwire on Thursday, per Steve Gilbert of MLB.com. “I’m sure his name would be at the forefront of any list that we’re making for hitting guy.””

    “Hitting guy”? That’s kind of funny.

    • xoot said, on November 13, 2015 at 7:40 pm

      Dave Stewart, Tony LaRussa and McGwire together again? I can just hear them yukking it up as they recall the a’s shooting each other full of roids after Canseco arrived in the late 80s. “The Giants never had a chance! They looked like pencil neck geeks out there. HA HA HA HA!”

      • snarkk said, on November 13, 2015 at 10:58 pm

        Wait a second. LaRussa had NO IDEA and only found out about Mac using ‘roids when Mac courtesy-telephoned LaRussa the morning just before Mac’s “coming out” to the press about being a ‘roider…

  17. Paul Sorensen said, on November 13, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    2 big pickups, Kuip says? I’m gonna say 3 newbies. What my brain wants my fingers to type is Zimmerman, Fister, and Cespedes. What my Giants’ payroll-minded fingers actually type are Leake, Anderson, and Maybin. Excellent, if the former, meh if the latter. Oh, there’s always trouble for me when my fingers don’t agree with my brain…..

    • zumiee said, on November 13, 2015 at 8:12 pm

      Brett Anderson? He just became one of the first three MLBers to ever accept the one-year Qualifying Offer. A cool $15.8 million or so for one year, for the Dodgers.

      • Paul Sorensen said, on November 13, 2015 at 8:13 pm

        Oh, good…. 🙂

      • zumiee said, on November 13, 2015 at 8:16 pm

        Yeah, he was terrible in his one playoff game this past season. He was definitely not “Big Game” Anderson.

  18. zumiee said, on November 13, 2015 at 8:18 pm

    Here’s way more information on Qualifying Offers than anyone probably wants to know, but it is a nice list of free agents available:

    2015 List of MLB Qualifying Offers
    Player Position Team Decision
    Brett Anderson SP Los Angeles Dodgers Accepted
    Wei-Yin Chen SP Baltimore Orioles Declined
    Chris Davis 1B Baltimore Orioles Declined
    Ian Desmond SS Washington Nationals Declined
    Marco Estrada SP Toronto Blue Jays Re-signed with new deal
    Dexter Fowler OF Chicago Cubs Declined
    Yovani Gallardo SP Texas Rangers Declined
    Alex Gordon OF Kansas City Royals Declined
    Zack Greinke SP Los Angeles Dodgers Declined
    Jason Heyward OF St. Louis Cardinals Declined
    Hisashi Iwakuma SP Seattle Mariners Declined
    Howie Kendrick 2B Los Angeles Dodgers Declined
    Ian Kennedy SP San Diego Padres Declined
    John Lackey SP St. Louis Cardinals Declined
    Daniel Murphy 2B/3B New York Mets Declined
    Colby Rasmus OF Houston Astros Accepted
    Jeff Samardzija SP Chicago White Sox Declined
    Justin Upton OF San Diego Padres Declined
    Matt Wieters C Baltimore Orioles Accepted
    Jordan Zimmermann SP Washington Nationals Declined

  19. xoot said, on November 13, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    Stanford basketball struggled tonight against a weak opponent; meanwhile, Cal puts an amazingly good team on the court this season. Their pre-season rank, nationally, is 14. First real game vs. Rice on now.

    • snarkk said, on November 13, 2015 at 9:40 pm

      Go Bears. I’d like to see the two freshmen studs actually stay through their soph years. I’m hoping a Cal appearance into the NCAA round of 32, and then we’ll see what happens…

      • xoot said, on November 13, 2015 at 9:57 pm

        Hard to tell tonight, vs. Rice, but Cal looks very balanced and strong. Wallace will have some influence on the kids.

  20. Macdog said, on November 13, 2015 at 10:34 pm

    NJ’s Monmouth U. (Ed Halicki’s alma mater) just knocked off mighty UCLA in OT at Pauley.

    • snarkk said, on November 14, 2015 at 10:20 am

      UCLA hasn’t been mighty in quite a while…

      • Macdog said, on November 14, 2015 at 10:29 am

        Maybe not, but they were good enough to make the Sweet 16 last season.

  21. snarkk said, on November 13, 2015 at 11:42 pm

    Kobe has done squat w/the Lakers. The Laker implosion is not as much fun as seeing a Doghair decline, but it’s not bad. Kobe is stealing money in this, his last year. He should retire now, and stop the embarrassing move to the cliff that his last year looks like its heading over…

  22. unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2015 at 8:05 am

    Right. Hard to enjoy the farewell tour when you shoot 23% and your team loses by 17 every night.

    They may not win 15 games this year. Love it.

  23. djloo27 said, on November 14, 2015 at 9:06 am

    2 things I heard on the radio this morning:
    Gabe Kapler is now the favorite for the Dodger manager job.
    The Warriors are favored by 18.5 over the dreadful “Brooklyn” Nets…

    • zumiee said, on November 14, 2015 at 9:22 am

      Kapler would be the most SABR-centric manager yet hired in MLB. But he has very little managing or coaching experience. A little bit in the minors, I think. He can crunch analytical numbers in a huge way, but can he manage a bunch of baseball players and make solid in-game decisions? Maybe. I think the Dodgers would be rolling the dice a bit on hiring him, though.

      • snarkk said, on November 14, 2015 at 10:19 am

        Kotter and the Sweathogs are the new LA coaching staff?…

      • zumiee said, on November 14, 2015 at 10:34 am

    • Macdog said, on November 14, 2015 at 9:35 am

      Warriors might win by 60.

      • zumiee said, on November 14, 2015 at 10:28 am

        The Kings actually defeated the Nets last night! The Kings!

  24. zumiee said, on November 14, 2015 at 9:28 am

    The more conservative hire for the Dodgers would be Martinez, Maddon’s bench coach over the years. He probably wouldn’t be a thrilling hire for Dodger fans, but he would have a lot of experience in the trenches.
    The risk is that sometimes a good Number 2 person just doesn’t make a good Number 1 person. Sometimes people are better suited to the assistant spot. The Number 1 spot brings a lot of extra heat and pressure and stress.

    • zumiee said, on November 14, 2015 at 9:29 am

      If given the chance, Wotus might be a good manager; but we don’t know that for sure.

  25. unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2015 at 4:58 pm

    Say what you will about the NFL and penalties and shit, but college football is ridiculous.

    Defense is imaginary. Oregon runs up the middle twice and gains 70 yards.

  26. unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2015 at 5:14 pm

    Stanford is playing like they are 2 guys short. Oregon is averaging 35 yards a play.

  27. snarkk said, on November 14, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    I’ll take the action in college. 2 plays from Kap and the only action is that 2 ball boys on the sidelines get beaned…

  28. blade3colorado said, on November 14, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    More adamant about not signing any of the so-called aces (Price, Greinke, Cueto). All of those MOFOS will be over the hill by year 2 of their gazillion dollar multi-year contracts. Down with “take a” Leake or Zimmerman and/or a trade to improve our pitching.

    • blade3colorado said, on November 14, 2015 at 7:29 pm

      By the by, Price is 0fer in 7 playoff games. Next.

    • djloo27 said, on November 14, 2015 at 7:40 pm

      I wonder if they consider Bumgarner’s feelings when contemplating throwing a lot of money at a SP.
      I actually think they might. Giving it to a legitimate ace like Greinke is one thing, but to have a guy like
      Leake making triple (?) Bum’s money is a slap in the face…

      • blade3colorado said, on November 14, 2015 at 7:55 pm

        You’re right Loo (as you’ve pointed out before). CSN said this,”Bumgarner might be the biggest steal in baseball, with a contract that jumps to just $9.75 million this year. The Giants have him under control through 2019, and while they will one day push to make Bumgarner a Giant For Life, don’t expect an extension until we get closer to the end of the first extension.”

        Realistically, the Giants are flush with cash and will only get richer with that parking lot development deal. However, I doubt they do Bum a favor and rewrite his deal.

  29. Paul Sorensen said, on November 14, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    Agree, no Price, no Smorecheeseonmypizza (good one!), no Cueto…. I would love Zimmerman and would be ok with Leake but only if he’s not “the big signing”… need a #2 and Leake is not a #2….

    • blade3colorado said, on November 14, 2015 at 7:43 pm

      Yep, I agree. Need Leake though. He is a solid 3 and remember, he was injured immediately upon being traded to our team. Love what I just read below from CSN:

      “Matt Cain had a 5.79 ERA but gave up just two hits over five shutout innings in his final start and afterward said he wants to be right atop the rotation with Madison Bumgarner in 2016. Manager Bruce Bochy told reporters that Cain “should take away from that (outing) that he’s back.”

      Jake Peavy missed almost the entire first half with back and hip issues but had a 3.15 ERA after coming off the DL and a 1.96 ERA in his final six starts, five of them Giants wins.”

      So, we add Zimmerman and maybe Timmy has a miraculous comeback . . . and Jesus comes back to earth and starts taking names and kicking ass. 😉

      • Paul Sorensen said, on November 14, 2015 at 7:53 pm

        Jesus who? Does he pitch in the Mexican league? Oh I didn’t…..

      • snarkk said, on November 15, 2015 at 11:25 am

        Not betting on Cain for anything. If he comes back, great. Even if he does, he’s not a “horse” any more. The days of him going 8 and losing 2-1 are done…

  30. wilcojoe said, on November 14, 2015 at 7:56 pm

    Damn, the Pac 12 and the Big 12 should be drinking buddies after tonight.

  31. xoot said, on November 14, 2015 at 8:05 pm

    Dubs seem a bit slow to get started in the first quarter tonight. htf can they lose THIS game?

    • giants54 said, on November 14, 2015 at 8:41 pm

      Only if Curry goes out with an injury. They are toying with opponents.

  32. Paul Sorensen said, on November 14, 2015 at 8:30 pm

    Not sure if ya’ll have seen the interview on MLB.com between Mad Dog and Bobby Evans…. not a lot of news here, but a little interesting. MLB showed a graphic of SF’s *projected* starting rotation (before any new signings, obviously): MadBum, Cain, Peavy, Heston, and Blackburn. Just seeing that graphic alone makes me pine for Greinke and Zimmerman…. And this Mad Dog guy, pretty funny. I’d like to see some kind of debate between him and Suze Ormand, I think they’re siblings separated at birth….
    http://m.mlb.com/news/article/157336556/mlb-rumors-led-by-giants-free-agent-pursuit

  33. zumiee said, on November 14, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    In the ‘new book’ section of my local library, I came across the book “Intangiball: The Subtle Things That Win Baseball Games,” a book about the so-called “intangibles.” SABR’s worst nightmare of a book. 🙂
    It was written by sports author Lonnie Wheeler, who I can’t remember ever hearing of before.
    I ended up checking out the book. I’m curious to see what he does with the topic.
    http://www.amazon.com/Intangiball-Subtle-Things-Baseball-Games/dp/1451696027/ref=sr_1_1_twi_har_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1447564952&sr=1-1&keywords=intangiball

  34. blade3colorado said, on November 15, 2015 at 12:20 am

    Whoa! Rousey totally destroyed and then KOed by Holm . . . shocked!

  35. alleykat69 said, on November 15, 2015 at 12:37 am

    Yeah Blade,
    Holm bitched slapped Rousey from the start and never let up! Very impressive& and a real shocker as well..

    • blade3colorado said, on November 15, 2015 at 3:50 am

      AK, I can’t wait to see a rematch . . . both of them will be rich after that fight.

  36. eddacker said, on November 15, 2015 at 5:56 am

    Interesting development. I don’t follow it much but what I did hear was Rousey just didn’t have another woman in her class with skills and when that happened there would be some good contests. It has happened. And Rousey may be the one that opened the door for Holm’s career. Let the joust begin.

  37. gianthead said, on November 15, 2015 at 7:06 am

    My two picks I FBI had not been clear before: Greinke and Greinke….worry about left-field later. I don’t like the market for hitters so that means over-paying and think there will be more options later. And I was one who argued last off-season that i wanted to trade with the Red Sox for Cespedes but that was with the salary certainty…I am not over-paying for him now….

    • gianthead said, on November 15, 2015 at 7:24 am

      If Blackburn impresses in spring training and we have a #2 signed…I would dangle Heston and see what the market will bare for a left-fielder….

  38. blade3colorado said, on November 15, 2015 at 7:32 am

    In my opinion, Blackburn has zero chance of making the opening day roster. Even Heston will have to impress to earn a spot . . . That being said, I’ve read where Blackburn will be the first call up should one of the starting 5 get injured during the season. Caveat being that he is doing well in the minors.

  39. willedav said, on November 15, 2015 at 8:53 am

    No idea of potential value, but J Zim will not be in Leake’s class for a deal. 5 yrs will cost SF $100+ and had rather pedestrian year last season with 3.66 ERA I believe. I’ve thought all along that there will only be so much interest in the big names but as next best option J Zim in position to drive up the cost and years.

    Nice comeback by Warriors (without Thompson and Barbosa) last night aided and abetted by some dumb end of regulation stuff by Nets and missed 1 footer by B Lopez. Nets did not look like 1-8 team tho and bothered Curry a lot.
    Always liked Lionel Hollins as player, not sure he did great job of coaching at the end to allow GS to shoot a 3 to tie it up.

  40. unca_chuck said, on November 15, 2015 at 4:24 pm

    Yeah, Jim Barnett goes nuts every time that situation comes up and teams don’t foul. The Dubs live on the 3 point line, so giving them one is stupid.

  41. unca_chuck said, on November 15, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    Jarrett Jack had a great game last night. Always liked that guy.

  42. Carstie Clausen said, on November 15, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    NOT a big football fan but happy to see my homestate Vikings trash the Oaktown Degraders this afternoon. Looks as if their defense has picked it up a couple notches since they went down to the 49ers earlier in the fall. I think they would win in a re-match. Seems like it took em a few games to gel.

  43. zumiee said, on November 15, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    With the Niners doing so lousy, I’ve already mostly checked out of the NFL season. (I don’t play Fantasy Football.) And I don’t have any strong feelings about any of the teams anymore. The Giants winning the 3 World Series championships feels like the sporting world has given me a LOT in the last several years, and I just don’t worry about other sports that much anymore. Even today’s Patriots win, with the NY Giants blowing it at the end, didn’t bother me. In the past, the Patriots winning today would have really bugged me, but not today.
    Also, I recently saw the movie “Still Alice,” an excellent movie about the tragedy of Altzheimers, and that movie really puts things into perspective.


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