Super Mad Bum
I’ve watched the clip on the internet, maybe you guys saw something additional. All I can take from this is that Bumgarner is a dick. Chill out. It’s spring time. Birds are chirping. Not every sniffle from a batter needs to be the impetus for launching you off the mound looking for a fight. Save a fight for something bigger. Or, you know, actually fight. All he ever does is strut and lean and flap around. He’s like a circa 2009 Splash blogger.
Madison Bumgarner, Jason Heyward Nearly Fight Over Misunderstanding (Video)
I’d love to see Bryce Harper try out one of his newly choreographed celebration dances after blasting one off Bumgarner. Lol. He’d get murdered.
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“He’s like a circa 2009 Splash blogger.” LMAO…that is pure gold, Flav (and hey, I remember a few of those!).
I agree with your thread. I love MadBum, and am happy he is a Giant, but the dude does need to learn to chill, and determine the appropriate place to pick your battles. Come on…it is spring fricking training…save that Buckwheat Headlock for some knucklehead who really deserves it, like Puig.
Didn’t seem like much. Kind of odd for Heyward to be asking Fowler about the pitch which apparently is his explanation for staring in Bum’s direction. Chron story says Fowler gave him the wrong tip from 2b on pitch location…doing this in ST also seems kinda funky.
I understand being a little nervous about how rotation is going but Arrieta got his ass kicked too, one third of an inning 4 hits 2 walks 5 earned. He might not be as good as last year but I doubt that happens again.
I find it mildly annoying. Almost as annoying as the whole Reverend act. Whatever, if it helps him keep an edge then carry on.
That’s it. Bum is spitblood! Yeah, he needs to calm down with all that nonsense. For such a redass, he gets offended awfully quickly.
Redass? True. Likely mostly pissed at himself for not being near the top of his game yet. He then takes it out on opponent who rubs him wrong. Righetti, Gardner and maybe Peavy should maybe have light chats with him from time to time. Too bad Hudson is retired. Maybe not BB15’s role just yet.
Laughing…not sure Peavy is the right guy…he can be a tad bit intense himself…
MadBum can do no wrong in my eyes, so screw the Cubs, especially after all the crap that went down with the HBPs last season, starting with Pence in spring training and then Arrieta beaning Aoki.
agreed. what was heyward doing? who was he staring at? He got called out on strikes by home plate ump, wtf does that have to do with staring at your teammate on 2b? I saw something on Chicago trib sight about this and fowler and heyward explanations don’t make any sense at all. If it was sign stealing thing then work out your signals on your own in the dugout or btw innings, not on the field after you’ve struck out.
Agree MacDog,
Fuck the Cubs their’s gonna be bad ass stink eye between these teams all year!
Bring it on!!
I’m 100% AGAINST baseball players overreacting to stupid shit they perceive to be happening on the field. You wanna fight? Do it over something real. When Thrill went in hard to 2nd base and Ozzie Smith and that other pussy were smacking him in the helmet, fuck yeah it’s time to throw down. But because someone “looked at you.” Fuck that.
In Bumgarner’s old-school mind, it’s not the pitcher’s role to run at the batter. The pitcher can give the invitation, “here I am, come on out if you want to,” and it’s up to the batter to rush the pitcher. So far, no takers. The batters look out at the mound, and see a big strong country boy who works with farm animals, and they’re all “yeah, I don’t think I’m going out there to take on Paul Bunyan.”
I heard a pundit say, last year, that Bumgarner has brought macho back to starting pitchers. He’s a throw-back to the 1960s. I doubt he’s going to change. You have to take the whole package. The same red-a## behavior he has when a batter breaks some unwritten old-school rule is the same fire that enabled him to pitch 5 innings of relief on 2 days rest in Game 7 of the World Series.
I don’t have a big problem with his old-school attitude. Probably because he’s OUR guy. If he was on another team, maybe it would bother me. 🙂 But when you win championships, you get big lee-way from the fans.
haha, ninja’d me zum. (grin)
Great post…I agree with ya, Zume!
All I know is Bumgarner didn’t mad dog or challenge anyone when he went 5 innings for the save in game 7 of the 2014 WS so I guess he keeps it in check when the stakes are highest. If anyone should be burning his arse its the official score keeper for that game. He does seem to have gotten more belligerent since then though.
It does seem that his “unwritten rules” radar is much stronger when he’s not pitching well. It becomes an outlet for his frustration.
This post from Schulman describing Bum’s minor league ejection in 2010 is pretty good. Nice to see Huggy Bear get some ink.
http://blog.sfgate.com/giants/2010/06/08/bumgarner-goes-ballistic-gets-ejected/
Haha dirt. I remember reading about that when it happened. And I remember not wanting him to get called up if he was gonna act like that.
I remember not only reading about it day after, but also seeing a video of the whole thing…including Bum chucking the ball into CF. Good stuff…thanks for the share and rekindled memory, Dirt.
Pitchers don’t take kindly to sign-stealing. Real or imagined.It was a pretty odd thing to do.
Back in the day, you’d get ear-holed for your trouble.
who steals signs in spring training? I doubt that’s what was going on. It didn’t seem to help him much if he was doing that.
I didn’t catch Krukow on KNBR this morning. Was it stealing signs OR was Bumgarner tipping pitches? Probably both.
He kept saying it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks, Bum’s feelings are all that matters. He was extremely supportive of Bum doing whatever the fuck he wants to do.
The Giants play a split-squad game against the Dodgers tonight, but as far as I can tell, it’s not being televised locally.
Just read SI’s take on the Giants in their baseball preview issue, and saw this in the “How They Can Win” part of it (which they have for every team):
“For the Giants to end their long World Series drought, they’ll have to keep Span on the field.”
This has to be some kind of tongue-in-cheek joke, right? Except everything preceding and following it is very matter-of-fact straightforward. I haven’t found a writer’s name attached to this, so who knows.
Maybe they put a soccer writer from Italy on the baseball beat…
I have not seen Alan Black write many pieces for the Chron of late, so maybe he penned this piece.
I’ve said before that Bum’s tendency towards red-assery is dumb. And, I’ve said before I like emotion shown on the field, if it’s genuine. I don’t think the two are contradictory. Bum’s a very good pitcher, but nobody appointed him the local sheriff of unwritten rules. If somebody gives him grief intentionally, he’s got every right to his emotions and fire back in a legitimate way, as long as nobody gets hurt. But, his frequent rants seem to me to be usually out of line, and not commensurate to the supposed affront. This event wasn’t much of anything, Hayward was clearly jawing, but to whom is a mystery. While he was jawing, his teammate at 2b was walking back to the bag, wasn’t even looking. Anyway, Bum’s rants usually happen when his pitching in the game isn’t going so well. I think we’ve all noticed that when he gets pissed, and a bit out of control, he tends to give up some hits and dingers. If he weren’t on my club, I might call him a big jackass. Since he’s on my team, I’ll just say he should tone down the red assery and pick his spots better for the rants…
Well said
Yep…I love the dude, but agree with picking your spots. Love him the way that I loved Barry Lamar, and we know how he was revered throughout the non-Giant baseball world.
Bumgarner is better than Kershaw when it really counts.
Cueto, batting in this game, just laced a little liner to RF and his former Royal teammate out there tried to throw him out at 1B. Cueto beat the throw and laughed about it.
Belt with another majestic bomb to put the Giants up 4-2. lulz.
Belt’s all “I’ve got your ‘slumping shoulders’ right here.” 🙂
Love it when Some Flappers rip Belt a knew ass hole and he goes out and smokes up another huge spring. Hitting .429 5 bombs 16 Rbi’s..
Of course then the regular season will start and slumping shoulders and injuries start up, God I want a full season out of him, are ill have a lot extra Belts watching him in frustration..
If Belt were with the Dbacks, he’d probably hit 35 dingers a year playing down there in the desert…
Up that? Maybe. In a really good year he might add another 5-7.
When BB9’s first dinger of the 162 flies out, i’ll celebrate with either a Grain Belt Premium or a Grain Belt Nordeast. Friendly and smooth beers. For me to drink an IPA either a Premo or a Nordeast goes down first.
Don’t know what those are, but I’d like to try ’em…
Snarkk: Minnesota regional beers. Doubt whether they have distribution much past the Dakotas. Grain Belt was an old Minneapolis beer which fell on hard times, collapsed in the face of the major nationals in the 70’s or 80’s and got resurrected by the Schell Brewing Co. in the old pre-Civil War, very German burg of New Ulm in the late 90’s or early Oughts. They are not insipid like Bud Blight or Miller Swiller. Neither are they knock your socks off hoppy like some of the Coast IPA’s like that Des Chutes, Oregon brew i had yesterday.
Hey, I’m down with some smooth, tasty, quaffing brews. I like IPAs, but I’m not wedded to ’em at all. Only those that are on the lower to middle end of hopping. Those IPAs that taste like sucking on tree sap are not for me…
The jawing wasn’t what this was about. To me it was the look to the guy on2nd.
Like Heyward was either mad that the sign he got was wrong or he was questioning the pitch. Either way he got pissed. Far be it from me to question why he gets mad or what motivates him.
Exactly. I thought Bum had the most intelligent comment, “If they are gonna do that be a little more discreet.”
No big surprise- Cueto started the KC game, and Blackburn got the Dodger game. It may seem like over-gamesmanship, but the Giants often keep divisional opponents from seeing their starting pitchers in Spring Training.
The guy pitching for the Dodgers, Frias, is in the battle for their #5 spot.
Vogey got roughed up today vs. the Red Sox. Not sure he’s locking down a rotation spot for the Pirates.
When I saw Heyward’s explanation I thought he was doing a Richard Nixon impersonation. The dude fucked up, he either let the Giants know they were stealing signs or he showed up the umpire by saying he was asking Fowler if it was a strike. Either way, the Giants and the Ump will remember that.
Blackburn ain’t ready for primetime.
Mavs trying to run with the Warriors = LOL.
Pavlovic asked Cueto about the RF trying to gun him down at 1B and Cueto was still laughing about it. Interesting personality for such a fierce competitor. Meanwhile, agent double O zero put in some innings in LF at a camp game. He’s now played every IF position but catcher and LF. Looks like a super utility slot for him. So right now it looks like 4 OFs only, Ehire and Buddy Holly on the bench, Brown behind Posey, and 13 pitchers to start April.
Good article/interview with Bill Walton in the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/27/magazine/bill-waltons-long-strange-tale-of-nba-survival.html?ref=sports&_r=0
Zum, thx for the Walton link. Let me know what you think of Martin bio. He’s such a big character; his Yankees years alone probably worth a book by themselves.
Stanford has new men b-ball coach Jerrod Haase from UAB who seems like great hire. But I hear two entirely distinct messages that seem not to work together in today’s world of college b-ball:
First, the AD says, “I have no doubt Jerrod will soon lead our program to Pac12 championships and that we will be a regular participant in the NCAA tournament.”
Second, the coach says, “We will compete for championships by doing it the right way and graduating young men…”
Um, not in the Pac 12 you aren’t. The league’s elite teams are full of one (or two years) and dones, including Cards most hated rivals that just went from completely out of the tourney a year ago to league contender this year when they added 2 of them to the program. Is that the kind of kids you plan on recruiting to Stanford and having them graduate? If you don’t have the best players in the league, winning it all is gonna be tough.
I mean, Oklahoma has 3 starters who are seniors and they’re probably going to the Final Four. Stanford needs better players and they’ve proven they can attract some of the best talent in the world.
Due to all the turmoil with the starters, it looks like we are starting the season with 13 pitchers. Again.
Yippee . . .
And that means probably neither Parker nor Williamson makes the cut, which is a bummer. The bench will probably be Tomlinson, Adrianza, Blanco, and Brown, which is kind of meh.
It’s super-meh.
Giants/Cubs is on MLB Network at 1:00 PM Pacific Time, Samarge and Lackey pitching.
Adrianza just baffles me endlessly. Is he Brian Sabean’s bastard love child?
He does this thing, it seems like every season, where he hits .300 in ST and they start believing in him again. The problem for Adrianza is that, in the regular season, he often is needed for pinch-hitting late in the game, and he’s just so over-matched against quality relievers. He’s basically a worthless pinch-hitter.
And when the bench is four guys, the problem is bigger.
I saw the movie “The Fan,” was playing on a cable channel, and got drawn into watching some of it again, mainly for camera shots of Candlestick. The De Niro character’s descent into madness is hard to watch, though. Not a pleasant movie.
Last week my seven year old begged me to let him watch The Fan, mostly because DeNiro (whom he loves from the Meet The Parents movies) played a Giants fan. Despite it not being the most appropriate movie for his age, I caved and gave in. He enjoyed it but like myself, had issues with some of the technical flauxs (Giants wearing road jerseys at home games, Candlestick switched out for Angel Stadium, etc…)
Anyway, last night at his baseball practice, he was hitting everything thrown at him. He had been struggling to make contact since practices started last month. On the walk back to our car, I asked him what he was doing different. Without hesitation, he quoted Wesley Snipes character , “I just stopped caring.” I laughed my ass off all the way home.
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The acting performances in that movie are great.
Shows how observant I am, I didn’t even notice shots of the Anaheim stadium used.
DeNiro was great in GFII, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull in particular. The other stuff later — pretty much always gangster stuff, he could sleepwalk through those parts — Goodfellas, Casino — even others he’s played the guy ready to go off on somebody. Other stuff he’s been collecting checks, IMO. Not one of my favorite actors…
that’s freaking awesome.
Agreed, I don’t get this Adrianza thing. The guy passed waivers before, so it’s not like the league thinks this guy is particularly good. Tomlinson can play SS, he’s not the greatest, but he’s more than competent over there for an extended period. Zumie hit it, Adrianza has been hopeless against late inning flamethrowers. So, unless he’s hit the HGH basically he’d be on the 25 as Crawford insurance. I think that’s ridiculous. Put him through waivers, and if he gets picked up, good luck to the team that wasted a claim…
I’m going to be guardedly optimistic that Agent 000 is on the juice this year and that bump will get him over the hump—or at least give him a fighting chance to make contact against a late inning flame thrower. 🙂
So, Coach K caught in a lie, on the post-game Oregon-Duke matchup, where Oregon walked all over the Dukies. This coach has a long history of success, but I think he’s gone past his expiration date. Plenty of stories out there how he’s got feet of clay. Now, he’s telling kids on the other team how to behave. What? His own team gave up in those last seconds, wasn’t even defending, so the Oregon kid natually took a shot before the shot clock expired. There were still several seconds more on the game clock past the shot clock, so what is the kid supposed to do — just turn the ball over to Duke on a shot clock violation? That would be stupid, so of course he took a shot. It happened to go in, and he jumped around some celebrating as the game ended. Like I’ve said before, that’s natural emotion. Nothing wrong with it. He didn’t waggle a finger in a Duke kid’s face. Lying Coach K lied when he said did not scold the kid, so he was effectively calling the kid a liar. Coach K can stick it…
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/new-audio-proves-coach-k-scolded-oregon-s-dillon-brooks-062457455.html
I don’t remember any opposing coaches scolding Duke’s Grayson Allen for all the players he’s tripped this season. Good riddance to Duke.
Think you are having a bad day? This is one for the weird books . . .
Milwaukee Brewers reliever Will Smith, along with the actor name connection, suffered a torn lateral collateral ligament in his right knee on Thursday. “I was standing on one leg, trying to take the shoe off and I pulled hard and it stayed on,” Smith is quoted as saying. “My knee just went up and popped. It sucks.”
how old is this guy, 102?
He must be on the Jeremy Affeldt training program…
I wonder how many HRs Belt will hit today… 😉
listening to the game on radio, Pagan and Duffy both stole bases in the first inning. Could there be another dumber or less useful endeavor than the spring training stolen base?
No speedgun on the Giants broadcast; a viewer gets used to seeing those numbers.
Technically, it’s the Cubs broadcast.
Sandoval out for a few days with back soreness.
Carrying too much weight and weak stomach muscles is not good for the back…
And he’s got a younger player breathing down his neck for playing time, Travis Shaw.
what’s amazing about the Sandoval fall from grace is that literally every single Flapper predicted this.
The Red Sox said all the wrong things. They totally bought into “free the Panda.”
Duffster HR!
Crisp, clean game by the Giants so far.
Puig has a sore hamstring.
Ruh roh.
Samarge has terrific stuff so far.
Who’s this new pitcher for the Giants? I haven’t seen him this spring.
How about that Lincecum showcase that hasn’t happened yet.
Not good (for him.)
Yeah right? He’ll be lucky to get a minor league deal if anything at all. He needed to pitch this spring to have any chance of a major league deal. Can’t say I’m too sad as I’d rather not see him pitching for anyone else.
I heard his dad on KNBR the other morning, his usual insufferable self.
Basically said Timmy will be ready when he’s ready. Which seemed to me to mean he’s not ready… 😉
I had never seen or heard his dad until someone shared that interview he did with Comcast last month. I didn’t know whether to laugh or feel immense pity for Timmy, knowing this clown was his dad. Insufferable to say the least. It looked like the interview took place on the patio of a Scottsdale restaurant. The way he kept looking around, as if to ensure that the public noticed his presence in front of a camera, talk about an attention whore. Just a total pompous ass. It’s amazing Tim turned out as well as he did, considering who his dad is.
Hey, Samardz throwing Ok so far through 4…
Perfect game until just now.
The guy kinda looks like a somewhat smaller, slightly better looking version of the Big Unit…
Anybody ever listen to that 95.7 FM sports show in the morning? The only good thing is they occasionally have a decent guest. It is hilarious listening to Lorenzo Neal, ex NFL fullback, try to explain baseball and make comments on Giants and A’s. He tries to explain everything as if they’re playing football, he doesn’t know jack about baseball. Hilarious at first, then after about a minute, so bad it’s time to change the station…
I take casual carpool to get to work, and sometimes I’m in the car with an A’s fan or a faders fan and they listen to that insufferable drivel. 95.7 was actually really good about 3 years ago, so good in fact I stopped listening to knbr. But after they canned the rise guys it was awful again. Listening to Lorenzo Neal talk about anything other than football, he is clearly in over his head.
It doesn’t have a strong signal. I can’t get it in the Central Valley. Whereas KNBR can be heard in Utah.
Yeah, at night in Phoenix I could hear KNBR on the car radio, beginning right after sundown; fairly strong signal…
Nice to see smarj get out of it.
Pawlie-come-lately. Just watched the clip. If my star pitcher needs to be a hot-head to be at the top of his game, fine. It all seemed tongue-in-cheek to me; rather funny. Just trying to show who’s boss.
Henry Schulman @hankschulman 13s13 seconds ago
Tell you what. Don’t think I’ve seen a pitcher raise stock as fast as Jake Dunning in just a few days. Arm is back. Filth. High on radar.
Put Dunning in for Cain — though his stock probably could fall fast, too.
A woman friend and her husband spent a week down in Phoenix, went to 4 games, several Giants tilts. She was appalled at the way the players ignore the fans, especially kids. She said Posey and Cain were the worst, wouldn’t even acknowledge the fans asking for autographs, kept their heads down, not even a hand wave. Pence obliged somewhat, she said. Shawn Dunston was really nice, apparently, but he’s a coach. Sorry to hear this, but it’s not the first. These guys are making too much money, that’s the deal. I don’t get it. Fans pay your freight, you don’t have time for a few hellos and an autograph for those dumb or young enough to want one? If some are autograph jockeys looking to make some dough, so what? Seriously, these guys aren’t curing cancer. Acknowledge the fans a little…
The whole autograph thing is beyond me. Always has been. I think it was discussed here not too long ago. I have some but al things given to me.
Oregon perfecting the pac12 face plant.
Nice start by AlphabetSouperman today. So now our #’2 and 3 starters appear ready for the season. Peavy seems to be coming along. Redass ace may recover once he’s outta Arizona and into the heavier air. As for Cain, who can say at this point. Heston makes for a very nice insurance policy. Hitting is not gonna be much of a concern if the regulars stay healthy. Duffster joining the blast-off battalion lengthens that lineup considerably, what with Pence and Belt going heavy in the desert.
That April schedule looks daunting and with the probable need for 13 pitchers starting out, the bench appears to be about the only sore-spot. If the team can grab early leads in say, 60% of their starts, things should be looking rosy.
The Giants surely feel comfortable with Heston as #5 if Cain needs more recovery time. Heston ran out of gas in the second half last season, but that was to be expected. And maybe a AAAer emerges this season.
Kazmir left a Dodger split-squad game today with “abdominal discomfort.”
Grandal, whose body broke down in the second half last season, is now doubtful for the start of the season due to pain in his forearm. I don’t know what’s up with that. I know he had arm surgery of some kind in the off-season. This was something the Padres were negative about- his lack of durability, for a catcher.
Leake was so-so today for the Cards. 5 innings, 4 ERs
I’d take Smarge over Leake all day long this season. And every season going forward.
Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 49s50 seconds ago
Scout on red sox prospect Sam travis: “the next Paul goldschmidt”
Panda — the next El Gordo de Oro…
OK, so what is the name we need to use for Samardzelous? Smarge? Sami? Samz? Let’s figure it out — no way I can type all those letters all season, need something short…
Jeff?