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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on April 16, 2016

Last night? Just wash it off, it was too much of a 1-off to fret over. And don’t have any day dreams about Tomlinson getting sent down. With Adrianza on the shelf we don’t have another utility guy on the 40 man. And sending him down would be a brutal message to send. Have a bad game, you’re gone? Bad idea. And one we aren’t really in the position to execute anyway….

I though Panik’s flub was worse. Of course, Specs did have the recent botched dp from last week and he had some shaky throws last night. He’s obviously fucked up in the head right now. That will pass as soon as he gets out there again and has some success…..

Warrior Game today. I sure hope the players aren’t so tired from playing basketball that they sleep through their alarms and miss the start of the game…….


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  1. Lurker John said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    we needed that one

  2. Irish Kevin said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:44 pm


  3. unca_chuck said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    Fuck me. That ain’t the pitch you want to throw.fuck

  4. snarkk said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    Hey no problem, had it the whole way…

  5. djloo27 said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    Pagan catches fly balls like babies tossed from burning buildings…

    • Lurker John said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:45 pm

      lol. Nice visual.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:46 pm


  6. ewisco said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    Just like u draw it up.

  7. Irish Kevin said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    Happy Birthday Bochy!!

  8. pawliekokonuts said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:45 pm


  9. snarkk said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    Cueto looks like he’s earning his salary so far this season. The rest of the pitchers? — other than Samardz, they need to withhold their paychecks…

  10. Lurker John said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    Mr. Cueto is 3-0. Not bad. He looked sharp tonight.

  11. pawliekokonuts said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    San Francisco values.

  12. snarkk said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    Good defense tonight. Belt’s glovework on that Craw throw late in the game was a key…

    • Lurker John said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:50 pm

      I was thinking the same thing. Play of the game that nobody will talk about. I saw the throw go low and about shat myself. Great pick.

  13. chipower9 said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    Whoop! I was having a brew with a friend earlier before the game, and we were talking about how EVERY win is a key win. Lots of folks think a loss (if the Giants had lost tonight) this early in the season is no big deal. Nope. Every game carries as much weight as any other, unless it is an elimination game, IMO. Great win! Fuck the Dodgers!

    Shark tomorrow for the series. Stay Victorious My Friends!

    • Lurker John said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:50 pm

      Good point. They all count in the end.

    • snarkk said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:51 pm

      Dos Equis is retiring the Most Interesting Man in the World. There’s gonna be a new guy this year…

    • bassbaldy said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:53 pm

      That was one of my first posts this year Chi. I hate it when people say “oh, it’s still early … etc ..” A loss is a loss, and when we miss the post season by 3 or 4 games, it’s those stupid losses I look back to. And when make the playoffs by the same margin, it’s games like tonight that are imperative no matter what month it is.

  14. bassbaldy said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    Funny Fact (or scary weird) .. First game all year that we’ve had the early lead and held it.

  15. willedav said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    Well Strickland got his guy out tho I might have left him in just to see.
    Osich K’d AGon.
    Casilla got 2 outs with guy on 3rd and sent SanDawg home happy.
    I’ll take Giants pen over Dodgers hands down.

    And I still like the Grizzlies.

    • bassbaldy said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:55 pm

      Hey WD .. I responded to you morning Odeon Pope post.

      • willedav said, on April 16, 2016 at 10:21 pm

        yeah thx man. I’ll have to look into more of O Pope’s music. Jymie Merritt was on all my fav Blakey stuff–either he or Reggie Workman. Listened to Along Came Betty this morning from Moanin’, just beautiful.

      • bassbaldy said, on April 16, 2016 at 10:36 pm

        I know Reggie .. he let me sub for him on some gigs. Wonderful human being, and needless to say, beyond brilliant bassist and historically important musician. The great quartet of Oliver Lake, Gerri Allen, Reggie & Andrew Cyrille!!! Incredible band.

      • willedav said, on April 16, 2016 at 10:52 pm

        Lisle I have a wonderful Coltrane DVD from Jazz Icons series of 3 different live Euro sets. The best one is from Germany in 61, with Dolphy and Reggie Workman, Tyner and Jones. Best version of Impressions I’ve ever heard.

      • bassbaldy said, on April 16, 2016 at 11:07 pm

        Wow man! I’ve not heard those particular recordings of Trane! Putting it on my bucket list right now!!mThank You WD!

    • snarkk said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:56 pm

      Lopez failed right after Cueto got pulled. Huge.
      He didn’t look good in ST, and he’s throwing 84-85. If the pitch isn’t perfectly placed, it’s smokeable. Oppo managers will pull their lefty when he comes in; the RHBs will wear him out…

    • bassbaldy said, on April 16, 2016 at 9:57 pm

      Have you been watching the pen lately? They do NoT inspire much confidence lately. Law was excellent last night but other than him …?

  16. Macdog said, on April 16, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    Not the cleanest of games — very little clutch hitting, leaky ‘pen — but after three straight L’s, I’ll take it. The Javy Lopez situation is sad. This guy’s been a great reliever, just about automatic vs. lefties, but yeah, it might be time for him to join Jeremy Affeldt at the retirement center. Utley and Howard probably would celebrate as if they’d won the pennant.

  17. willedav said, on April 16, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    I heard Wotus earlier in the week talking to Radnich and Krueger. re:Arroyo, fwiw he said he thinks the kid is going to grow some more and get bigger and his best spot would be 3b. Said they are trying to move him around some at AA.

    Duffy tonite did the same things I saw him do vs. Rox–let a strike go by and then swing at non strikes. Everything he did hit were weak grounders.

    Sharks beat Kings again 2-1 on the road. If they can only win at home, they will be tough.

  18. gianthead said, on April 16, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    7 down 98 to go….

    Sharks…2 down 14 to go…

    Dubs…1 down 15 to go…

  19. snarkk said, on April 16, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    Give Duffy some time. Hell, our fair haired boy Posey has got an 0-15 going on. Duffy was good all last season until he hit a wall late, due to just not being used to playing that many games. He’s got talent, maybe his season slump is early, and he’ll be strong from May through October. Span looks like he’s waking up at the plate. In the field though, the dude has a rag arm…

    • bassbaldy said, on April 16, 2016 at 10:41 pm

      As I said earlier, I think Duffy is afflicted with whatever it is that has plagued our 3rd basemen in the early months of each of the past two seasons .. Panda was terrible out the gate in ’14, McGhee last year, and now Duffy.

  20. willedav said, on April 16, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    I think Casilla will be fine. Yes tonight he gave up a double but pitched out of it with the game on the line–ground ball pop out fly out, nothing hit very hard. He can still throw 94 with tough breaking ball and is death on RH ala Romo.
    Osich and Strickland both did their jobs. I’d like to see if either of them, esp Strick can go a full inning regardless of facing LH or RH in late game situation. Maybe that will evolve as season rolls on.
    Notice Bochy brought Lopez in earlier and saved Osich, who got the always dangerous AGon later.

    I also believe you have to throw out what happens at Coors–it’s just not real baseball.

    • bassbaldy said, on April 16, 2016 at 10:48 pm

      Casiilia did pitch in Colorado and blew the save at home against the LA. He got the save the night before but had a 3 run lead. I don’t know, I just don’t trust him. He get anxious and overthrows. Kontos maybe the only guy that seems ‘ok’ and that I don’t get nervous as hell when he comes in.

      • bassbaldy said, on April 16, 2016 at 10:49 pm

        Sorry meant ” did NOT pitch in Colorado”.

  21. bassbaldy said, on April 16, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    Reading about everybody raving on the incredible Nats! 9-1 .. What an amazing job Dusty is doing. The only teams they’ve played are two series against Atlanta; because of a rain out they split a two game series with Mia; now playing 3 with Phi which they’ve won 2 so far. Hardly a test, I’d say.

  22. Carstie Clausen said, on April 17, 2016 at 3:54 am

    Whew ! That one got a bit too close. Tepid offense lately with only Belt, Pagan, Crawford and Panik showing many signs of life. Add that leadoff single and SB by Span and we got just enough early on to make it a game. No signs of life vs a very questionable LaBumbo pen.

    Noted it the other day that we may have a loogie problem. Lopez may be on the ropes. Yes, a bit early to be sure about it,, but so far he has been all too hittable…from both sides of the plate.

    Cueto appears to be the real deal. Superb performance. Could be he is truly a fit for the Giants. He knows now how critical a good defense behind him can be to the final results.

    This one was a critical win after three straight losses. It should have been easier as Kazmir kept slipping out of situations and quickly developed a near-lethal pitch count. Buster and Duffy need to start coming around and Pence needs to pick it up as well. Hard to have a dynamic offense with the core of the lineup not doing their duty.

    SamWhatAm comes through this evening and the team should be ready for Arizona. Beat the Bums !

  23. eddacker said, on April 17, 2016 at 6:46 am

    Two outta three in LA, make my day.

  24. willedav said, on April 17, 2016 at 9:01 am

    Stix idea of reviving old fireman role is intriguing. I think biggest issue would be the fact that so few SPs these days last more than 6 innings. Yesterday for example only half dozen SPs out of 30 went 7 or more. Couple of those were in AL with the DH; games were close but mgr didn’t have to worry about LU.

    No one throws complete games anymore. Marichal had what, 200 +? Bum had a couple all last year iirc.
    Cain and Peavy at back end of rotation would mean most days at least one of them would be done around 6th inning. Fireman likely would have to come in with guy(s) on base and shut things down. If he were to try and finish or go multiple innings he’d soon be unavailable and be overworked. Maybe Stix could elaborate on how that might be handled and what SF could do there. And given how roles are structured it would be big change.

    I can see where Osich and Strickland could grow into the stressful late game situations role and do that, hopefully no matter what side of plate a hitter was on. And over time maybe they could be stretched out to get 4-6 outs. Maybe Kontos too. Haven’t seen enough of Gearrin or Law to know how much they could be trusted in late game/close game RISP type situations.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on April 17, 2016 at 10:49 am

      The role of the fireman is simplicity itself: Get your team the hell outta the inning. My guesstimation is that time for this specialization would be the middle innings, maybe starting with the 4th, maybe no later than the 7th. If the introjection is early on then Heston, the longman would take over with the next inning. Should it be as late as the 7th, then the 8th on automatically goes to your setup guys. Fifth and 6th innings are where the crisis would happen most often. Then we are looking at the likes of Kontos and Gearrin to assume duties in the following frame.

      Firemen are strictly one inning specialists and may well be needed in successive games ~ like perhaps with Peavy and Cain in the desert next week.

  25. zumiee said, on April 17, 2016 at 9:49 am

    Duffy needs to get back to what makes him special- hitting more balls to the opposite field. Last night, with the bases loaded, he tried to pull an outside pitch and grounded into a double play. He needs to not worry about HRs.

    • ewisco said, on April 17, 2016 at 10:50 am

      I was thinking that he was over-thinking things, resulting in at-bats where the first pitch strike goes by and then wave at the next two out of the strike zone, and trying to pull things. so your point is well taken, quit trying to “do” something and hit it where it’s pitched. one of his early fouls in one at bat was a hard hit ball that was foul down the right field line. maybe if he gets a couple of those to drop in it will restore his confidence.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on April 17, 2016 at 10:52 am

      Good point. We faced this for several years with Blanco, a guy who finally may have come to understand that though the longball may be a chick-magnet; it does not get the job of driving in runners more often than a blip going the other way. Hopefully, the Duffster is a faster study and is learning his lesson to not be led into temptation.

  26. Flavor said, on April 17, 2016 at 11:11 am

    I’ll get a game time thread going later today…..

  27. zumiee said, on April 17, 2016 at 11:34 am

    The Giants haven’t faced Maeda yet, so we know how that usually goes. He tends to go only 6 innings, though.
    Smarge’s biggest game with the Giants so far. Playoff atmosphere, for sure. ESPN, national audience.

  28. bassbaldy said, on April 17, 2016 at 11:44 am

    Willedav – here are some recommendations for further Odean Pope listenings … Btw, ‘Odean’ is the correct spelling of his name. Anyway, two recordings from the Odean Pope Trio, 1980 & 82: Out for a Walk; Almost Like Me. I had the drummers name wrong .. It is Cornell Rorchester not Kenny Washington. I could never remember the bassist’s name so I had to look it up … Gerald Veasly. YouTube would be good place to start. The music is 30+ years old but still holds it power after all this time.

    • willedav said, on April 17, 2016 at 1:24 pm

      thx. To listen to the live program I heard try and scroll over to link for jazz night in America, hosted by Christian McBride. Forerunners group led by Michael Merritt on electric bass, 2 saxes/keyboards, drums/percussion. Recorded in Philly recently I believe.

      Btw, that Jazz Icons Trane DVD has him playing a set with miles rhythm section Wynton Kelly Paul Chambers Jimmy Cobb (but no miles). First cut out the gate is Green Dolphin Street. I love that tune…nothing tops Miles with Bill Evans and Cannon/Trane but this is real nice.

      • bassbaldy said, on April 17, 2016 at 2:16 pm

        Green Dolphin St. Is one of my all time favs to play .. It’s a classic that is extremely malleable, lending itself to so many possibilities for interpretation. I was at The 55 Bar in Greenwich Village – a tiny dive bar & infamous musician hangout – a few years ago and heard former Miles guitarist, Mike Stern, doing a version of GDSt … Freakin Amazing!!! The bassist was a young Cameroonian cat named Richard Bona (played with Herbie Hancock among others) .. a bonafide breath-taker-awayer! Wanted to have my hands amputated after hearing him. At one point in the evening the drummer plays this great solo, then Richard, the bassist, starts to solo and at a certain moment flips his bass guitar over and starts drumming with his hands on the back the instrument … he outplayed the drummer (and that dude was excellent) hands down .. so to speak!

  29. snarkk said, on April 17, 2016 at 12:42 pm

    Hey, SF is at 7-5 to start the season, after playing at a historically bad venue for them (Coors) and two series with their nemesis. At worst, they’re 7-6 after today’s final Doghair game at the Latrine. They’re finding their way with new players, and a starting rotation trying to figure it out. I’d say that’s not bad. IMO though, they can’t continue starting Cain and Peavy consecutively, much longer. Too much toll on the Pen with those guys going five innings back to back…

    • Irish Kevin said, on April 17, 2016 at 12:46 pm

      I would say Cain did a better job than Peavy. Cain had a really good game just the typical Cain game of no run support. We will see how he does with his next start

      • bassbaldy said, on April 17, 2016 at 12:55 pm

        Exactly my sentiments IK.

      • Flavor said, on April 17, 2016 at 3:05 pm

        It wouldn’t be too hard to produce a performance that was better than Peavy

      • chipower9 said, on April 17, 2016 at 4:04 pm

        It was not just a lack of run support for Cain. He was gold for a few innings, and then he had a meltdown inning, and that has been his model of late. That shit has to change. He has to be able to close out those tough innings without letting the other team put up a big crooked number.

        I agree with Craig, one of these guys has to right the ship, or you have to juggle the rotation, exactly because of the points made by Flav.

  30. wilcojoe said, on April 17, 2016 at 3:23 pm

    Hey Flav, I am in pretty good position so far in an afternoon tournament on DK (thanks to Tomas and Drury) and I have a few positions to fill for tonight’s Giants-Dodgers game. Who do you take at the following postions: C, 2b, SS, and one OF. I never like the Giants chances against a guy they haven’t faced. But on paper the Giants have an obvious advantage at the infield positons, so they should be the higher owned. I really don’t like any of my OF options. I am in 14th place (as of now)out of 9000, so I don’t want to fuck this up, even though I always do.

    • Flavor said, on April 17, 2016 at 4:11 pm

      who do you have in those spots now? 14th with 4 players still to go? You could start some Flappers and probably still win. There’s only one game left.

  31. Flavor said, on April 17, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    New thread.

  32. unca_chuck said, on April 17, 2016 at 7:10 pm

    This woman is an idiot. Puig was our by5′ with a decent throw.

  33. unca_chuck said, on April 17, 2016 at 7:10 pm

    Fuck me.

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