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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on April 25, 2016

I missed most of yesterday’s game catching some of it on the radio. Each time I tuned in Jon Miller was doing a different type of flabbergast at the hitters and their inability to drive in runs when presented with the opportunity.

A quick check of the team stats? Sounds like a plan. Stats that stood out:

Trevor Brown has more RBI’s than Buster Posey (7>6).

Brandon Crawford has 1 more RBI than Jeff Samardzija (4>3).

Eh, I’m not in the mood to keep going.

How’s Steph’s knee?


Happy Birthday Unca Chuck!

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  1. snarkk said, on April 25, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    Friggin Kemp is on fire. Last year, wasn’t he dogmeat?…

    • zumiee said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:01 pm

      He had a good second half.

  2. unca_chuck said, on April 25, 2016 at 10:59 pm


  3. zumiee said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    The game has changed so much for starting pitchers. Can you imagine Marichal or Gibson handing a 5-2 lead over to the bullpen?

    • snarkk said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:00 pm

      Gibson would probably Strangle Strick…

  4. chipower9 said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    Generous strike…I will take anything right now…

  5. blade3colorado said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    Fuck Casilla . . . Just throw strikes. This is blind Melvin Fucking Upton. I don’t care what he has done previously to you. Throw strikes.

    • chipower9 said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:01 pm

      Blind Melvin Chitlin…LMAO…

  6. unca_chuck said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    Hooo. That was a crap location.

  7. unca_chuck said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    Another hanger.

  8. chipower9 said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:02 pm


  9. unca_chuck said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:02 pm


  10. Macdog said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    Got ’em!

  11. chipower9 said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    Fuck, that was reminiscent of 2010! Giants baseball – TORTURE! G’night girls…

  12. snarkk said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    Dang, that was brutal.
    This Pen has a ways to go to come together. Maybe we’ve been spoiled the last 5 years…

    • chipower9 said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:04 pm

      I think the pen is pretty decent, sans Strick, and whichever Casilla shows up.

  13. snarkk said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    Adios, Flappers…

  14. unca_chuck said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    Right at closing time, Mac!

    • Macdog said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:09 pm

      Not quite yet, I need a drink after that one.

      • unca_chuck said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:17 pm

        Hah! Well,maybe a quick little birthday shot before bed time.

  15. blade3colorado said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    Dollars to donuts, Strickland is sent down. Can’t happen soon enough IMO.

  16. alleykat69 said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    Casilla sure makes me uneasy to say the least.
    Don’t know what Upton was looking for but that was right down Broadway!
    Just win baby! And Casilla gets his 100 th save ..

    • blade3colorado said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:06 pm

      Fucker is blind AK . . . I would put money on you striking that MOFO out.

  17. zumiee said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Nice to see Bum get the win.

  18. bassbaldy said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    Pure unadulterated TORUTURE .. Sure, it’s a win but damn, we should be beating these mothers easier than this! WTF is going to happen when we face some good teams? Another runner left in scoring position.

  19. unca_chuck said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    No shit.

  20. unca_chuck said, on April 25, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    I just wonder how much longer they leave their hottest hitter batting last in the order. Span is still scuffling.

  21. bassbaldy said, on April 26, 2016 at 3:37 am

    Can’t sleep .. So, here is a late night rant that I hope helps you ‘early-riser’ types greet the morning!

    Yep, Span IS scuffling. Yet, with the exception of Pagan, aren’t they all scuffling? Other than Pagan, who would YOU trust in the clutch? Myself, I’d probably go with Panik; not Pence, not Belt, and certainly NOT Posey! Maybe Duffy (especially since he now seems to be straightening himself out a bit), or possibly Craw. But, if I couldn’t have Panik for some reason, my secondary leaning would be toward the White Shark coming off the bench. Someone posted earlier today a wonderful comment about him .. something to the effect that he’d probably “play for free” So true that! In the big picture, Blanco has mostly been a very dependable & consistent Giant.

    I’m sensing that Span is going to come around. I’m not the most patient, positive, or optimistic person. However, I do believe that certain injuries that require a particularly long absence from the game and specifically fussy modes of healing, can really mess with a baseball player.

    Of course, a player’s character & temperament can be a powerful arbiter in how fast they regain their form. Case in point for our current roster of Giants is Messrs. Span & Cain. On the periphery of that idea is Pence. I believe that The Reverend hasnt fully recovered from the time he missed last year. Yet, he is such special kind of maniac, we tend to forget that he was ever gone, or at least I do. Belt & Panik also missed considerable time. I think all those guys are presenting such a peculiar and obviously inconsistent manner of play, I’m figuring it must be attributed to them adjusting to being back full time. Therefore, I’m going to give Pence, Panik & Belt another couple of weeks to pull it together. Panik seems to be coming around quicker than the other two. He is almost there. I think we are all in agreement that this is the year we want Belt to, first and foremost, remain healthy, and secondly, step up his offensive output a notch or two.

    Anyway, back to Span & Cain … I truly believe that the nature of the injuries these two have suffered asks that we be generous with our patience towards them. I read somewhere (maybe here) that the actual length of Cain’s throwing arm has changed. Can you imagine what that must be like for a pitcher? As for Denard Span, I’m buying into the idea that he is a very solid and complete baseball player and we will eventually have the distinct pleasure of witnessing his emergence. Having stated that, I’d still like to see Boch flip him with Pagan .. put him in the nine hole. I’ll give him another month.

    I’ve heard that Matt Cain is not a very likable person, a real asshole in fact. I don’t really care. We all know what kind of pitcher he was. He may never be that guy again but I think he is just the right kind of a sonofabitch that ain’t going down without a fight. I understand that 3 innings of decent pitching followed by a tenuous 4th & 5th, then out, is unacceptable. Yet, I feel wthat the Matt Cain we are currently experiencing is a vast improvement over last year’s model. Each of Cain’s outings could have been so much more compellingly fragrant if it wasn’t for the indecent stench left by the collective ineptitude & bed shitting of our bats, gloves, and so called ‘stoppers’! I’m giving Cain another month too.

    That brings me to Posey .. Oh boy … whatta can-o-worms! I realize Buster is ‘the guy’; the face of franchise. But, more & more, I’m losing faith in him .. and I’m not sure why exactly. My disenchantment dates back to last year. I’ve not reviewed any particular stats, however, I have the distinct sense that … hmm, how can I say this? … that Buster rarely comes through in the clutch. Sure, he’ll knock in few and end up hitting for more than decent average by the end. Yet, I cannot ignore or escape my perception that most of Buster’s offense comes when it’s inconsequential and at those specific times when we really need him to step up, he’s does not. This guy has got to start getting it done, set the pace, be consistently productive, and lead by example, especially when it is crucial to do so. If not him, then who? I’m not cutting Posey any slack. He gets enough rest. I want to see him start earning that superstar salary of his. We need him, like 2 weeks ago!

    There is something about this year’s Giants that just seems off. Kinda like what Frank Zappa said, many years ago, about jazz: “Jazz ain’t dead, it just smells funny” This version of the Giants does seem flat .. oh so very, very flat, and deathly tepid. And what makes it all so very weird is the intensity of spirit we saw and felt at the outset in MIL and especially here at home vs LA. Of course, we knew we could not sustain that kind of energy every game. But, man we looked really terrible in many of those next games with COL & LA and we have looked even worse recently. I mean, a couple of those ARZ games were beyond belief .. talk about the “walking dead” .. you could tell we were going to lose by the end of the first inning .. I even predicted the sweep at the end of the first game! And that final loss to MIA and the way we squeaked by the Pads last nite, a game with our ‘ace’ on the mound … Ugh … this team smells like ass!

    • chipower9 said, on April 26, 2016 at 9:40 am

      Great post, Lisle. I tend to agree with most everything you wrote.

  22. blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2016 at 6:13 am

    Awesome post BB . . . I still have jet lag, so wondering around the house like the Walking Dead.

  23. unca_chuck said, on April 26, 2016 at 7:33 am

    Posey’s hitting a ton of grounders to short. As in trying to pull everything. He’s being pitched away. He needs to go the other way.

    Like I said earlier, I have more faith in the pitching coming around. Pence is Pence. He can slump with the best of ’em. And catch fire. Panik is on his way back. Posy is my biggest concern as well. Belt will do what Belt does and quietly put up decent numbers.

  24. Carstie Clausen said, on April 26, 2016 at 8:38 am

    Truly an uninspiring win vs a poor team. Seems like the Giants often play to the other team’s game. Those LOB’s keep building up to the point where its looking like that stat is the one where SF will lead the league for sure. At an official 0 for 1, three walks and a pair of runs scored it looks as if Belt is trying to tell us something. Last year i suggested both leadoff and the 2-hole. After Pagan BB9 has the highest OBP on the team, has scored plenty of runs, but has not driven in as many as one would like from the 6 or 5 spot. Why not switch him and Panic in the lineup ~ at least for a trial run.

    Agree with several posters from last night that Strickland is buying himself a ticket to Sactown.

    • chipower9 said, on April 26, 2016 at 9:41 am

      I like the suggestion to flip Belt and Panik for a while to see how it goes. Truly makes sense to me, Stix.

  25. Macdog said, on April 26, 2016 at 9:13 am

    A little irony: In a game where the Giants got screwed after two replays, the most egregious being the one that cost Duffy an RBI single in the 8th, they scored what turned out to be the decisive run on Buster’s HR after the
    ump blew the call on ball 4.

    • blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2016 at 9:30 am

      Good observation Mac . . . By the by, I posted info regarding our seats at Yankee Stadium. Do you know anything about that area of the stadium where Chi and I are sitting (shade, sun, sight lines, etc.)? Thanks.

      • Macdog said, on April 26, 2016 at 9:31 am

        The only game I’ve been to at the new Yankee Stadium I sat in the right-center bleachers — the cheap seats — so I have no clue what your tix are like.

      • blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2016 at 9:38 am

        Ahh . . . OK, I actually remember now that you said this the other day. Thanks anyway.

      • chipower9 said, on April 26, 2016 at 9:43 am

        Not going to sweat it (literally and figuratively). Hat. Check. Sunscreen. Check. Cold beer (or lemonade for Blade). Check.

        Probably the only game I will ever attend at YankMee Stadium, so just having good seats, it will be a special day. Thanks again for scoring these, Blade. I will be dialing us in with Giant-Boston tix soon.

  26. dirtnrocksnomo said, on April 26, 2016 at 9:42 am

    Nice post bassbaldy. Watching them play last weekend I was thinking that Pence and Peavy were both walking a tightrope of either producing or completely falling off. Peavy turned in a good performance in his last outing and Pence has since taken off a bit. Right there with you on Cain. The results aren’t there but he had a no hitter going through 4 a couple of starts back. It seems like the second and third time through the LU has been tough. Maybe he’s just needs to get better with inning to inning adjustments. If Peavy can pitch decent to well I can live with Cain struggling through to right the ship. Span is a guy that sort of perplexes me. He’s picked it up the last couple of weeks but he doesn’t seem to hit anything with authority. Just a bunch of ground balls. I checked his spray chart at fangraphs and this is pretty much his m.o. so I may as well get used to it. He uses the whole field so there’s that.

  27. chipower9 said, on April 26, 2016 at 9:46 am

    Pence has always been streaky as hell. So, I am not going to trip on him.

    RE: Cain, perhaps Bochy should do what (I believe I got this right) the Rays do, and third time the LU is coming up, they go to the pen. I am not saying do this for every starter, but WTF…I would give it a whirl with The Horse.

    • blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2016 at 11:35 am

      Chi, Days Inn across the street from Yankee stadium @ $131 a night. What say you? Leave a message here or email (going to lunch with a friend).

      • unca_chuck said, on April 26, 2016 at 2:09 pm

        Stayed at the Holiday Inn under the LF light standard in Boston that was fine.

      • chipower9 said, on April 26, 2016 at 2:30 pm

        Blade – if it works for you, works for me. Based on the prices I have seen for Boston, that sound pretty damned reasonable. Is that through Priceline (name your price)? Thanks for the info on Boston, Charlie.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on April 26, 2016 at 2:29 pm

      Unless Cainer picks it up in the next couple starts it might be a good idea to give him 4 or 5 depending on how he’s doing ~ maYbe twice through the lineup. Then the longman starts the next frame. Of course i’m also somewhat intrigued with hanging with the Horse till maybe 3 weeks into May and if he has not come around call up Blackburn and make Matt the new longman.

  28. wilcojoe said, on April 26, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    As much as I love visiting NYC, it’s next to impossible to get a decent room without breaking the bank. I stayed at a Hyatt Place (Hyatt’s version of a Courtyard by Marriott) in midtown on business a couple years ago. $375 dollars a night before taxes. That’s the going rate for a Ritz Carlton or Four Seasons in just about any other major city (SF included).

    So that’s a pretty good rate. I would just check a site like Yelp or Tripadvisor for a review of the property. I have seen some pretty bad Days Inn’s especially in high crime ridden neighborhoods in major cities. Just be careful guys.

    • wilcojoe said, on April 26, 2016 at 1:45 pm

      Nowadays most newer ballaparks have completely revitalized their surrounding neighborhoods. So you really can’t go wrong with any nearby establishments. I would imagine the Bronx neighborhood near the new stadium is no different but our east coast flappers will obviously know best.

      • djloo27 said, on April 26, 2016 at 2:28 pm

        The South Bronx ain’t the Old Fort Apache anymore. No one’s gonna bother you.
        There’s also a massive police presence before, during and after games.

    • chipower9 said, on April 26, 2016 at 2:32 pm

      Good stuff Wilco and Loo. I appreciate your feedback. Looking forward to this trip!

      • blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2016 at 6:58 pm

        The photos of the place are ok . . . Sounds like a good deal and it’s within walking distance of the park.

  29. bassbaldy said, on April 26, 2016 at 2:21 pm

    Hey Guys .. I found this except of a Scott Miller article quite interesting …

    “Clint Hurdle always has been sort of an avant-garde manager, and one of the ways he tracks offensive production is by a very different measure: The Pirates keep track of “productive team plate appearances,” which are measured in one of eight ways per at-bat:

    A productive plate appearance can be a hit, a walk, getting hit with a pitch, a sacrifice bunt, moving a runner from second to third, scoring a runner from third, a plate appearance of eight pitches or more and, finally, catcher’s interference.

    Hurdle and his staff want a minimum of 15 of these productive plate appearances per game, figuring if that happens, the victories will pile up.

    Through Pittsburgh’s first 15 games last week, Pirates hitters reached 15 productive plate appearances in a game 12 times, though they went only 7-8.

    Hurdle credits Zack Rosenthal with creating the idea when he was managing in Colorado. Rosenthal is still with the Rockies, now their assistant general manager of baseball operations. Rosenthal, Hurdle said, hatched the idea after being influenced by former NFL coach Dick Vermeil’s philosophy that teams win 70 percent of the time when they produce 50 or more plays per game that net positive yardage.

    According to Hurdle and the Pirates’ analytics department, a baseball team with 15 productive plate appearances per game should win 67 percent of the time. Stay tuned.”

    • chipower9 said, on April 26, 2016 at 2:35 pm

      Interesting. I would add to the list of eight, making it nine, that a productive AB is also when you move a runner from 1st to 2nd (scoring position).

    • djloo27 said, on April 26, 2016 at 2:45 pm

      Lisle baby, you’re working too hard. Relax a little – have a beer – enjoy the game…

      • chipower9 said, on April 26, 2016 at 2:57 pm

        lulz…have a COUPLE of beers, Lisle.

      • bassbaldy said, on April 26, 2016 at 3:48 pm

        Yeah, you are right … However, as much as I hate to admit it, this IS the way I relax … I find such solace in baseball!

  30. unca_chuck said, on April 26, 2016 at 2:49 pm

    Meh. It’s putting the cart before the horse.

    For baseball, what does it mean to ‘want it’? I’m sure Bochy wants 6 home runs per game. Situation dictates strategy anyway. If you are down by 5, you aren’t going to waste an out moving a runner over just to satisfy the productive number theorem.

    For football, one would think Blaine Gabbert did better than Kappy based on strictly completion percentage. Truth is, Gabbert completed a shitload of 3rd down passes that did not yield first downs. Check-downs. Which do no good. Sure, they gained positive yards, but not enough yards. Add them up and you still come up with squat.

    • chipower9 said, on April 26, 2016 at 3:03 pm

      Well, and remind me exactly how much success the Rox have had, even under Hurdle? 😉

  31. chipower9 said, on April 26, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    And again for those who love the P in the 8 hole…

    1. Denard Span (L) CF
    2. Joe Panik (L) 2B
    3. Matt Duffy (R) 3B
    4. Buster Posey (R) C
    5. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    6. Hunter Pence (R) RF
    7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    8. Johnny Cueto (R) P
    9. Angel Pagan (S) LF

    Go Dreadlock Dandy…GO GIANTS!

  32. dirtnrocksnomo said, on April 26, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    I’m sort of surprised Sabevans hasn’t brought Morse back on a minor league deal yet.

  33. unca_chuck said, on April 26, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    P-ing in the 8 hole sounds vaguely dirty.

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