Well, we are about to find out what the hybrid of Parker and Williamson can do. I don’t see either of them wrestling the job from each other but a successful platoon could be in the offing. Oh Adam Duvall, where for art thou? lol.
I’m always bellyaching about our offensive offense — so much that I’ve even been suspected of being a troll! The absence of Pence is only going to exacerbate our ineptness. Thanks BF for acknowledging “my guy” … to that I say, Amen!
I would never think of you as a troll, Lisle. A Doomer? Absolutely, but not a troll.
I was under suspicion at one point awhile back .. I think it was Zumm that proposed the possibility I was trolling the site .. BF came to my defense. Yes, you are correct in assessing me as a ‘doomer’ … I’m a ‘baby doomer’. It is simply based on my life experience man, bad shit happened a lot. As an artist, life has been an intense struggle with extremely small material reward … but my days have been my own.
It is all good, IMO, Lisle. I like what you bring to the table. It is nice to have a mix on the blog (doomers and pollys, like me).
1. Denard Span (L) CF
2. Joe Panik (L) 2B
3. Matt Duffy (R) 3B
4. Buster Posey (R) C
5. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
6. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
7. Jarrett Parker (L) RF
8. Gregor Blanco (L) LF
9. Madison Bumgarner (R) P
I have no expectations that the two headed monster can provide anywhere near the production that Pence has. Hopefully, they can contribute, and the rest of the team steps-up and the Giants continue to win more than they lose.
This is not encouraging news, shared by my friend Mike (Rain Man):
Giants lost Pence to a reinjured wrist a year ago today. They were 30-24 at the time, then went 12-18 in 30 games he missed.
Has Pence become injury prone??
I don’t think so, he just goes too hard and he’s getting baseball old. He’s too driven for his own good and he doesn’t give himself the proper recovery time. Which, as a person who in their late 30’s can attest to being a tough pill to swallow. That you’re not as young as you used to be. This is when age starts to creep in and give you some not so gentle reminders that you are no longer in your 20’s.
I agree. Pence just needs to dial it back a bit. Can he do that? I don’t know, but management needs to encourage him to do so.
Yea, I am 61 and have a hard time admitting I can no longer do somethings!! Ha ha like I can’t do a lot of things like when I was 20!!!
Bad news about Pence. I looked at his spray chart over on fangraphs and he’s got 6 infield hits so far this year. Hustling is nice and all but he’s got to learn to dial it back a bit. The club needs his D and HRs more than hustle singles.
Belt is 10 for 21 over the last 7 days. If he can stay hot and Posey picks up the pace maybe they can weather the storm.
bass, I remember the comment insinuating that you may be a troll. Don’t worry about it. This place can be sort of insular sometimes. I don’t mean that as a comment at anyone in particular. I just think it is true and new people often get unnecessarily blasted or ignored.
Thanks so much Dirt! That really makes me feel better. Thanks to Chi too, who is always very supportive!
I appreciate it. Even though I’m probably older than many here, I don’t have the pure baseball knowledge that most have on this blog. I try to stay humble and learn as much as I can from y’all. Bottom line is I’m a Giants fan through & through and I’m fanatical about baseball.
Just saw you made the same comment (about Pence dialing it back) as I made in regards to Sarge’s comment. Cannot agree with you more.
I said in the off-season (before signing Span) and spring that I would be happy with the young guns filling in as needed in the OF and adding a needed bat at the trade deadline. But that was assuming Pence would be and stay healthy. Pagan was already discounted to half season.
I don’t think we can sit on out hands with Parker and Mac . But what is available in the market? Francouer? We’ve been there and done that. Ethier is still hurt and too big of a contract. Other options???
After re-reading the Duvall reference, h ow about Jay Bruce? He has got to be available…
Aaron Hill another idea…obviously he is versatile enough for the OF and gives us some insurance if Duffman struggles second half…
Bum with the jack.
That made Blair turn his head.
Dan Patrick was talking about how many Homers Bum has hit just yesterday…that was a tater…
Panik in Atlanta!
Panik with the jack.
Buster with a jack.
Well this is impressive….
GH, the only OF that I hear is being talked up as trade bait is Ryan Braun and the Brewers want maximum return. Consequently, he probably wont be dealt until the trade deadline. Interesting that Braun is lights out in the hitting department again. PEDs?
Fuck that…I do not want Braun…especially if they want “the maximum return.” Brewers can go fuck themselves in that regard.
Tell us how you really feel about Braun, it wasn’t quite clear to me…ha ha ha ha
MadBum might get another AB this inning…
So much for that.
Ok here is a decent poll…Flappers, who should the Giants pursue out of these possible options:
A) Jay Bruce – Reds
B) Aaron Hill – Brewers
C) Colby Rasmus – Stros
D) Steve Pearce – Rays
E) Steve Souza – Rays
F) Mike Trout – Angels…ok last one is a joke. I don’t think we have 10 minor leaguers that would be tempting enough to entice the Angels.
I like the pop Pearce or Souza could bring from the right side. And can’t imagine it would cost much in talent to land either…couple cases of Charles Krug cab???
Good thing Marlon Byrd is no longer an option.
Yeah blade, I would not touch Braun with a 10 foot Sammy Sosa….
You just mentioned another guy I hear being talked up. Jay Bruce. I like him, but his power would be wasted here, low BA, and very low OBP. In Cincinnati’s band box, he’s a stud.
Agree…no bueno on Bruce. He Ks 3.5 times to every BB.
Statcast has Bum’s HR at 411 feet. Very impressive.
I hope they don’t make a run at Braun, it isn’t the PEDs for me, I just don’t like the guy.
I’m becoming less and less of a fan of Parker each time I see him.
Williamson may work out over time but imo he isn’t ready yet (maybe throwing him into the fire a second time will work?)
Right now I figure if the Giants try to make a trade they will have to overpay, maybe it won’t be so bad at the deadline but right now they would probably get fucked. You could probably get Rios by offering a Major League contract, I wouldn’t mind trying that out.
Alex Rios is a great idea .. How much worse can he be that what we already have?
Since there really isn’t much of a chance to get a guy with the same production as Pence, If I was going to make a trade I might try for Suzuki. Someone who could keep the conga line moving.
Bozo, I don’t think the Rays could hope to get much for either Pearce or Souza. Marlins would hope to if they put Osuna on the market, which I suspect you would be right and it would require the overpaying. Reds would likely be happy just to get rid of Bruce’s remaining contract….
Salary dump? They only owe him what remains of the 12.5 he is making this year. Club has an option at 13 mil for next year, with a 1 mil buyout. But no way I want Bruce, for all the reasons mentioned above.
Except right now the Giants are dealing from need not want, and other teams know it. I just think the other teams would try and exploit that.Although, you might be right about the Reds and Bruce if the Giants are willing to pick up the contract.
Exactly chi..dumping his current salary
Yeah, don’t get me wrong – I despise Braun. However, him and Bruce (the guy GH mentioned) are the only players I know are actively being talked about as trade bait. Moreover, in my opinion, we don’t have the minor league currency to cut a deal for a stud outfielder. So, the guy you mentioned – Rios, who I think is way over the hill, is achievable and wouldn’t cost much either. Yep, both Parker and Williamson are just guys to me.
Now regretting getting rid of Tommy Joseph and Adam Duvall. 🙂
Parker has some pretty big holes in his swing. The thing I do like about him is he is an above average fielder, and he does have some pop. If he could get his K rate down/OBP up, I would be more open to him being around for the long-haul.
Dodgers/Cubs game is on the MLB Network today.
I’ve got the Giants game on it right now.
Anyone else having problems following the game with MLB Gameday ?
Blade I used to go to this site a lot but all the pop ups and some bug that got installed on my Mac finally forced me to stop using it … do you think it has gotten cleaned up a bit recently?
Are you sure this is the site? No pop up ads at all. You close one message that refers to an ad. You must be thinking of VIP. That one I use occasionally, but the quality is poor versus this one, which is HD and I always do a scan due to the popups.
My GD is running ok .. maybe a bit slower than usual .. I did have problems getting the radio feature to work today, but I tuned in on the real radio and follow the details along on GD .. That’s how I normally roll.
Btw- the AMC Network had a very good mini-series, The Night Manager. I had it DVRed and finally watched it. Based on a LeCarre novel.
That looked pretty interesting, Zumie.
It’s excellent. Highly recommended. The actors are terrific, and the story grabs you and hangs on.
How many fricking stadiums have the Braves built and left?
Shout out to Bozo . . . Suzuki is having a Renaissance year. So, I am down with that. In fact, I have him in a DFS LU today. lulz.
I like the idea as well, I think he’d fit in and when one of OFers comes back he’d be great off the bench. Just a thought.
He’s essentially playing full time due to injury and moreover, his outstanding play. I have always liked him and the Giants, who don’t have to learn from anyone, could actually learn how to prepare better by watching Suzuki, who always is in excellent shape.
Isn’t he a catcher?
Brainfart. I’m thinking Kurt, not Ichiro . . .
lulz. Umm . . . no.
No surprise here, as sad as it is, but the “Minnesota Star Tribune” is reporting that Prince died from an opioid overdose.
Heroin, or pills?
Pain medication. He had back pain issues, I think.
so glad they pulled bummie and didn’t let him bat.
Oh shit, they didn’t. I’m batting .000
I’ll shut up now.
It shouldn’t go unnoticed that the ballpark organist works in clever little ditties. Yesterday, before one of Tomlinson’s ABs, the organist played some of Bowie’s “Space Oddity.” For the Major Tom connection, I assume. That was cool.
Very nice observation Zum!
Zum Night Mgr. was a good one, I like LeCarre a lot…endings often not what you would expect.
Stix called this one yesterday, Mad Bum dominating with a big blast and 11Ks.
As far as Cavs go they haven’t played anyone near as talented and efficient offensively as GS.
LB is a load and more than Green can handle, but they can’t shoot from perimeter consistently well like Warriors.
Stratton back in there!
Yep. Good call Stix!
Yeah, Willie, I think Westbrook and Durant are better collectively than Bron-Bron and Irving. LBJ will get his points, but it is limiting the rest of those guys. Channing Fry is going to launch a thousand 3s.
Key, as we saw so much in the previous series, is limiting the fuck out of 2nd chance points, and avoiding foul trouble for Bogut and Green.
Barnes just needs to get out of the clouds and get his head in the game. I’m sure Kerr is going to start Iggy since Barnes appears to be space-walking his way through early possessions.
Ballgame. *sigh* A split is fine but it shoulda been 3 of 4. What a clusterfuck of a series. Good riddance to Turner field #4.
Given the circumstances — Pence’s injury, another Casilla meltdown, the favorable pitching matchup, the crappy opponent, and Cards, Red Sox, Bums looming — I’d say this was a must-win game. And they won.
Cubs lead 2-0.
Bum’s ERA is 1.91.
I’m sure Ichiro would be OK for a year here but I’d rather not get a stop gap guy.
Pagan is gone, Pence is proving less durable than originally thought, Span is no kid either. Loo mentioned this a week or so ago, Giants need to address the entire picture, soon.
For now I think the sum of the parts of the whole team (pitching defense et al) can handle short term adversity.
I’m not into blaming anyone for Pence injury. Medicos ask questions about what hurts/where and how things progress with treatment but they aren’t mind readers. Bochy had him in there few days running and he seemed fine. If he’s OK why wouldn’t you play him? Only he knows how he really is.
And how do you tell a guy like him to dial it back?
I read where Pence said it was feeling so good he was starting to push it. Apparently he tried to decline treatment before the game but the trainers gave it to him anyway. Hopefully he’s not out very long, otherwise we will have a very hard time keeping that even year streak going.
There is a lot of the season left, so no way do I see Pagan as “gone.” He will be back on the 25 as soon as he is healthy. Agree on the part about the medicos and Pence.
Yeah, this is somewhat of a Flap myth in my opinion that these guys don’t know their stethoscope from a hole in the ground. I’ll bet you any amount of money they are better than the Kaiser Voodoo Doctors I have in Colorado.
Zum and others, my only issue with Night Manager was how they had to wrap everything quickly. Little too predictable and don’t you think everyone’s bells and whistles would have gone crazy when he reappears in Cairo. But entertaining and well acted.
Really disappointing season of the Americans…super dull.
I just think we need more pop than Ichiro brings in my most humble opinion bozo-san…
Oh and Prince had major hip pains after hip replacement as well…these idiots like Heath Ledger and Phillip S. Hoffman add in some cold medication while already f’d up on opiods and that is all she wrote…
Sorry to hear your take on the Americans .. I haven’t seen the new episode but in general I enjoyed the series.
After the first season was so good Baldy, the show was one of my favs. This season, they should have changed the name from The Americans to A Bunch of Ruskies Sipping Tea In a Room…
Must win is in the books. After the Casilla fiasco #4 and the fadeout of the offense after Pence went down, the team needed a boost. It was our good fortune that the MAN on the hill happened to be the redass Carolina Cattleman who won the game more ways than one, in the second place by plastering that pitch to break the ice and essentially shame Panik and Posey into matching his two for one. Doesn’t matter that Bumgarner’s W-L record isn’t quite as high as a handful of others or even that his ERA is not quite as low as another small batch. Important thing about this guy is that he is simply indomitable. He does not give up or give in. One more time: We are looking at the premiere big-game pitcher in MLB and he saved the Giants ass once again.
“.. and essentially shame Panik and Posey ..”
Well put Stix! Today, as I was lamenting the loss of Pence and the impact it was going to have on our already feeble offense, I was set to post that at least we can rely on our starting pitchers to generate some offense … Then Bum did his thing … How many single handed wins do they have for us? Is it 3?
Great post, Stix.
Just read it . Chris Haft has a VERY nice piece on Bumgarner’s performance on MLB.com. It’s all too easy for us fans to take this guy for granted. Better to take him for granite.
Well, nice to get the win, and no way in hell we should have split with the Bravos. They just flat out suck. Giants should have went 3-1, and IMO, you can hang that on Casilla. I am getting so tired of this cat. I just cringe when he takes the hill, now.
Gearrin’s stock seems to have risen a lot. Why not go closer by committee for a while?
Absolutely, Zume. I find it hard to believe that it would be worse than Casilla and his blowing 25% of his save opportunities.
Casilla would be butt-hurt about it, but so what?
Generally, I’m much less patient than you Chi with just about every aspect of the performance of the
Giants. Reviewing my ‘game log ‘ I see I have entered scathing remarks about Casllia’s performance going all the way back to early April. That stupid routine he pulled a couple of weeks ago when Boch yanked him before he could fuck up another game for us was the final straw for me.
Yes, and I am sure if you went back through the threads here, you would see that I have been all over Casilla’s ass for quite a while, too. I am DONE with this motherfucker. Close by committee, and if Casilla gets all butt-hurt, tell him to take a fucking hike, and not to let the door hit him in the ass on the way out.
Urias’ ERA is now 9.39.
Urias Heep of shit…
Love the reference. I rocked my ass off to some Uriah Heep in high school…
And forgot to add…GO DUBS!!!
Casilla is turning into Armando Benitez now but unfortunately the org is not gonna run his sorry ass out of town Pfffft,,,
Not a good guy to be mentioned in the same sentence with. Easily in my top 3 least favorite Giants (Benitez). But who do you replace Casilla with?
Go with closer-by-committee for a while. Gearrin, Casilla, Lopez, etc. Mix and match. And maybe Casilla becomes more consistent, or someone else shines above the rest.
I will 3rd Zum’s proposal & Chi’s 2nd of the closer-by-committee idea … Make it so Boch! … Jeez, if it were only that simple.
I think we really should find a way to lobby the Giants to at least consider some of the ideas tossed around here in the Flap Nation.
Agree, and I would also throw Strickland into the mix. Strickland has to develop another pitch or two that he can throw with consistency. If he does this, he will be deadly.
Maybe Romo when he returns.
Him and Casilla swapped roles before, I think…
That is true Loo, they have shared/alternated/exchanged the closer role in the past.
Fun stat that I haven’t double checked, but still thought I’d post it.
Bryce Harper, Last 190 PA: 11 HR
Mike Trout, Last 190 PA: 11 HR
Madison Bumgarner, Last 190 PA: 11 HR
You gotta be shitting me! WTF!!!
I know, right? But like I said, I didn’t double check the numbers.
Heard this on KNBR this morn during my drive in. Big Country getting it done, in more ways that one! I love this cat! I would still take him in a WS game seven over ANY pitcher in the game!
Matador “D” by the Cavs as Clyde would say…
How in hell are we 5.5 games up?
Going 22 – 12 against the West helps.
That Tina Fey commercial is so fuckin’ annoying.
I’d like to just mash my balls in her face to shut her up…
Curry is not playing well and has slipped into is playground mode, loose ball handling. After a decent start, he’s shooting like shit. He just doesn’t look involved in the game. Let’s hope he finds it in the 3rd quarter.
Thankfully you can have an “off night” by Curry and Thompson, and it doesn’t mean squadoosh. Where the Warriors truly differentiate themselves from the rest of the league is with their bench. Livingston had a MONSTER game last night…that is one he will remember forever, and share stories about with his kids and grandkids. It all brings true meaning to “STRENGTH in NUMBERS.”
My favorite play of the first half: Love getting called for an offensive foul while doing a perfect imitation of most of Lebron’s inside moves.
LeBron is doing a lot of shoving on Warriors away from the ball. Those should be fouls.
Looks like football out there. Delly doing his usual goon work…
Tom, I am trying to call you . . .
You can forget those fouls being called. James is a star and gets the benefit of the doubt most of the time. W’s in trouble right now.
Don’t look like their in trouble now WJ..
Bench play his carrying them tonight, no doubt Kerr got in their grill at halftime and his ticked off with the clip board breakage was epic..
Timmy in AAA tonight: in 3 innings so far, 3 ERs, 3 hits, 2 walks
Game updates at the Salt Lake City Bees website.
Ya think Timmy was nervous at the start? … Single, double, walk & a balk! .. In that order in the 1st.
Or rust. He got through the 4th inning OK.
Huge hoops by Livingston.
I could be wrong, but it seems like OKC was better than the Cavs.
No doubt about it. I would take Durant and Westbrook over LeBron and Kyrie all day long, and twice on Sunday. OKC was definitely the most worthy adversary the Warriors have seen to date.
Yeah, 5.5 game lead, how have they done it? Similar questions were asked back in 2010. This year, seems like a pretty simple answer, although perhaps too simple: the 5.5 game lead is brought to you by the estimable Lay Down the Law Firm of Bumgarner, Cueto, and Smarge-Yeah……. But the Giants seem to be entering a new stage of the season that will be tougher than it’s been, especially in Pence’s absence. Would be great to see them avoid the June swoon of past seasons. I’m really interested to see how active management is in replacing needed parts. They often kind of wait things out. This year, they could be more aggressive and put this sucker away early, but remains to be seen if they will. Not questioning their strategies of seasons past, but would be tickled pink to see some boldness. June’s a good month for it; 2010, didn’t Buster and Bum come up in June? Changed everything, forever….
Awesome post, Paul. You nailed it brother, and I agree…would love to see some boldness on the part of the Giant’s front office.
Timmy, 5 innings, 3 ERs so far.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Timmy do *ok* over the next 2 months, and then come near the trade deadline, the Angels will be out of contention and they trade him to SF for a bag of balls so Timmy can either a) catch lightning in a bottle in SF again down the stretch, or b) retire a Giant…..
Had not seen your post, but I somewhat agree. My vision is Timmy does fair to good, and in the off-season the Giants ink him. That’s my vision…and I am sticking to it. Great to see you back, Paul. You need to drop in more often my friend. How is life in VN?
Flav, I want to hear Vern’s explanation. Bottom line, from 1 pt Cavs lead to down 20, on a rare night when neither Curry nor Klay were shooting near what they are capable of.
Too much depth and creative offense. Cle is a lot of iso standing around.
Sure every game might be different, but I’d agree Zum Cavs cannot score like OKC can and Iguodala might repeat that MVP role.
Finals might have been over last week.
Agree on all points, and yes, I think the Warriors basically won the championship last week. The eastern conference in the NBA sucks in comparison to the west.
Ayesha Curry is my goddess. That commercial where she is meditating, lifting, working out and throwing stuff in the blender and tapping her heart at the end is great.
I obviously have been too kind to the Sherpas this season, as the normally hapless Reds again destroyed them this evening. The mountain men annual cratering in June got an early kick-start. In a four-game series, the last-place Reds won three by scoring a combined 33 runs. Butler was their last victim. In a blown-up fifth, the Reds sent 11 batters to the plate and scored six runs. After the first four reached base, Eugenio Suarez nailed a three-run homer. By the by, Mr. Who’s Dat (Saurez) also hit another bomb in this Kathmandu showdown.
“Time of possession wasn’t real good,” Walt Weiss said. Hilarious.
Those former AFC West rivals Seattle and San Diego playing a wild one at Petco. Pads had a 12-2 lead, but the M’s put up 5 & 9 and now lead 16-13 in the 9th.
Late touchdown and FG by Seattle?
Looks like willied nailed it. The OKC-Dubs series looks like the real final. If this first game is any indication, the Cavs can’t win 4 in 7 from the Dubs if they had 7 guys playing against 5 Dubs. Boring ass offense, isolation with Kyrie and LaBron. Yuck. Dubs defense stifling, beat them going away, with Curry and Klay basically doing near nothing on offense, which they won’t do again in this series. Dubs bench outscored the Cavs bench something like 45-8 or some such. Even Barbosa looked pretty good. If Dubs win on Sunday, then this sucker may be done in 5….
Bonds, Ortiz, Bryant, Jordan, Harper . . . All great players, but give me someone like Steph every day and twice on Sunday.
“When Curry was asked Wednesday if he had surpassed James as the NBA’s favored visage, he rejected the premise. “It’s really annoying for me,” Curry said. “That’s not what I’m playing for, to be the face of the NBA or to be this or that or to take LeBron’s throne or whatever. You know, I’m trying to chase rings, and that’s all I’m about. So, that’s where the conversation stops for me.”
His humility outshines anyone in any sport I can think of.
The kid is humble, he’s smart, well spoken, respectful, and will cut your heart out on the court. On his way to HOF top shelf status…
Agree whole-heartedly with both of you, Blade and snarkk…he is a once in a generation talent, and we are so blessed to have him playing right here in our backyard.
BTW, someday somebody is clean the clock of the Cav’s Delly the Goon for his S-disturbing, football like play that has injured several players. That from behind groin chop job on Iggy should have been a Flagrant I foul…
At least. Draymond got a flagrant 2 for his.
lulz. At one point I thought I was watching a rugby scrum…
Here ya go boys. Some coverage on Timmy’s first minor league start with the Halo’s minor league club…
I still say/envision that Timmy has a good year, and the Giants sign him in the off-season. That’s my story, that’s my vision, and I am sticking to it!
In the gym this morning saw highlights of the game Mac talked about. Pads did blow 10 run lead and lost 16-13.
Couple nights ago they also gave up 16 and the C (Bethancourt) wound up pitching 2 thirds of an inning and playing 3 different spots including 2b. He got replaced by another IF (Ramirez or Amarista).
Kind of hard to laugh off where the Pads are, 21-34 12 and a half out.
Greinke shut out Astros, but AZ has lost 7 of last 10 and are only couple games ahead of SD.
Braves btw, are at the Latrine this weekend. This time next weekend, Dogs are here.
Bum has as many home runs (11) in his last 190 plate appearances as Bryce Harper and Mike Trout. Put him out in right field on his off pitching days a la Babe Ruth. Outfield problem solved.
Hmmmm…let me dig up Bobby Evan’s phone number…you might be on to something, Steve!
I am going to start beating the bushes hard for my airline tix this weekend. That will be the final piece of the puzzle for our journey to the motherland, where all things Giants were born. I am SO looking forward to this trip! Cannot wait to pluck my ass down in a seat in Fenway and YankMee stadium.
I am going to put it out there right now…I am going to plan a trip to Wrigley next year. Any Flappers interested? Let’s make it happen…
Yeah Chi, I can’t wait. Hoping Loo, Pawlie, and John (MacDog) can join us. Bozo too.
Just saw a note that Giants promoted one Austin Slater, OF hitting .317 in Eastern League, to Sac to take Mac’s place.
Anyone got the scoop on him?
I meant Pagan would be gone next year in earlier post. As Chi mentioned he is due to come off DL and should return right away fwiw. I’m still not in on stop gap guy, unless they think Ichiro has another year or two left.
I know they are guys here high on him going back a ways; I just hate to see a HOF first ballot guy hit .260 and struggle.
Would you rather see Mac daddy hit .225 and struggle?
Heard another crazy stat that Bum has the same career number of HR’s (13)as Babe Ruth did pitching in the same amount of innings pitched..
Just saw the Bummie home run highlight. Looks like about 1,200 people showed up for the game.
As empty as I’ve seen a stadium in years.
Are you coming to NY for a Yankee game, Chuck?
You said there was a slim possibility, right?
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I’d take The Outfield over our outfield.