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Dark Day

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 13, 2016

It’s days like today where you appreciate baseball being there every day in the Summer. Anyway, just popping up a new thread.


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  1. chipower9 said, on July 13, 2016 at 3:18 pm

    Baseball is Life. The Rest is Just Details.

    Well, not really, but you guys understand.

    • djloo27 said, on July 13, 2016 at 3:24 pm

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 13, 2016 at 3:48 pm

        Was staying the night with an antiquer couple who did the same show circuit as myself and later co-invested in a 1923 100′ by 60′ brick shithouse (old school) right out there on U$ 2, which my cousins in Montana know as the “High Line”, following as it does, the original James J. Hill track-run of the Great Northern Railroad. Ramblin Robert and Madame Toots had set up for a spell in a town “somewhere east of Omaha” for the Christmas antique season with his general junk and her lines of jewelry and vintage clothing. Town was a mile south of the Interstate about an hour east of Omaha and a couple west of Des Moines.

        They popped my “Field of Dreams” cherry on the DVD that evening. Can’t rightly tell that my eyes were dry throughout the episode.

      • chipower9 said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:38 am

        Great share, Loo. Agree, Stix. Have seen the movie a number of times, and it still tugs at my heartstrings big time.

  2. chipower9 said, on July 13, 2016 at 3:21 pm

    The one constant through all the years Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It’s been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past, Ray. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.

    • djloo27 said, on July 13, 2016 at 3:26 pm

      How about that, Chi? Didn’t see your post till after I put up the video…

      • chipower9 said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:39 am

        Great minds think alike, Loo!

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 13, 2016 at 3:41 pm

      “Sunny days and Willie Mays and chocolate candy bars”.

  3. wilcojoe said, on July 13, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    Speaking of lack interest in something sports related, I applaud Rory Mcilroy for his blunt comments about why he isn’t playing in the Olympics. He said exactly what I have been thinking the whole time in regards to why so many golfers not to mention NBA players are deciding not to head to Rio. It has nothing to do with the threat of mosquito bites or kidnappings. The bottom line is athletes in those two sports just don’t give a rats ass about the Olympics. And why should they?

    As he aptly said, put the focus and attention on the swimmers, track and field athletes, and all the other competitors whose lifelong dream is to win a gold medal. To think that a PGA golfer or NBA baller should actually care about the Olympics is asinine. Well done Rory! In fact the Olympic officials should be much more concerned about the deplorable conditions that exist in those shitty waters they call Olympic venues.

    • sandog said, on July 13, 2016 at 5:25 pm

      Totally agree. In fact, for me, the Olympics in general are a colossal bore. The mainstream sports are meaningless like you mentioned and even sports like swimming, where rich kids in their 30’s are still able to compete for gold medals hold no interest for me either.

  4. zumiee said, on July 13, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    Waiting for the baseball games to start again….

    • chipower9 said, on July 13, 2016 at 3:26 pm


      You ARE the MASTER, Zume.

  5. chipower9 said, on July 13, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    Just went back and caught the last comments on the previous thread. I believe the pitching match-ups listed by Zume are pretty accurate (based on last I had heard). I heard that Cain is lined-up to pitch the game Blade and I will see in Beantown. And if Zumiee’s prediction holds true, we will see Bum in NYC! BOOM!

  6. Carstie Clausen said, on July 13, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    Sorry weak for horsehide heads ~ except for a few always polly Giants fanatics who are licking their chops for the weekend series when the Dagos fly to the venue they dread the most.

    Of course, in life, as in baseball, things don’t always go as anti sip ated. Or as Robbie Burns inimitably laid it out “the best laid plans of mice and men gang aft agley and leave us naught but grief and toil for promised joy”. There, the “dark day” caveat for the courtly types.

    That all said, i remarked on the presence of our pitchers a couple days ago. Not a lot of resonance on the Flaperverse. That resulted in Cueto serving up some enchiladas ( i know they don’t do them in the D.R.) but it still sounded ok to my ears) at PetCo. It’s like that flight of the butterfly, now that Cassius in casketed. Miss the man. He was a hero to our times. In a way it was a time which segued into our times as boxing almost completely oozed outta public consciousness and interest a bit before the holy matrimony between the NFL and video programming chewed a big chunk outta America’s Pastime.

    Baseball connects, collects and corrects. What other sport can make that brag? Only one little letter separates loser and looser. Margins and subtleties bespeak baseball. Drama Queans and bloated couch crunchers have other preferences. So do litterbugs and nutritional nitwits.

    So not a whole lotta interest in Giants pitching. That’s another dimension where our sport does not jive perfectly with the direction of popular culture. Pop Kultsch, i call it. Don’t care one bit for the popkultsch interjections into the Friday and Saturday NYT crossword puzzles. They are challenging enough as it is for one who essentially eschews P.K.

    But then there’s baseball. Can we really call it part of the P.K. mindset these days? You see, pitching well is all about run PREVENTION. Defense, particularly the entirety of infield D, all five of them and you might could consider a relative handful of hurlers in that dimension; can make a pretty good to better than average pitcher into a master on the mound, so long as he generally gives those boys with the wood in their hands a basic choice of pounding it into the ground or swinging at sailboat fuel. The Carolina Cattleman, going again Friday night, will shoot for placing bookends around the ASG. He’s gonna be relying on an infield defense which he assumes will rebound to its previous pinnacle of highest excellence within weeks. That August minefield of strong teams and hot, humid venues, may require (and likely get) that infield excellence for a month which will test stamina and may challenge the small layer of fat between SF and the LaLaLanders.

    Giants hitters are good. Their 596 strikeouts bottom the National League. Soon they will be facing another wave of heavy hurlers in the back and forth series with the Nats. Nasty-assed bullpen in Noo Yawk. Baahstin is no place for RH flyball pitchers facing LH sluggers who love to loop em. We don’t have many of them per se, but who knows but BB9 might tempt the Sox to offer half their team for him if he can make a short series switchover from slash hitting XBH’s. Nah, let him do what he does best. Giants have a nice share of portside swingers.

    Baseball? Only if you love it.

    • chipower9 said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:44 am

      Baseball? You bet your sweet ass I love it! Great post, Stix. You are a master with the written word.

  7. wilcojoe said, on July 13, 2016 at 5:25 pm

    Betcha guys never would have guessed Casey Mcgehee made the all star game. Yep, that’s right, the AAA All Star Game which is being played on MLB network right now.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 13, 2016 at 5:43 pm

      Good guy. I still recall how he assisted Matt in all facets of the game, including cheering him on, despite losing his own 1st string 3rd base job and being relegated to the bench . . . and eventually being released. A better person than a ball player.

      • chipower9 said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:46 am

        Yes! I remember the story. The Giants were on the road, and Casey said to Duffy, come into my office. He pulled the kid into a broom closet, and with tears welling-up in his eyes, basically that Duffy was doing exactly what he is supposed to do…take McGehee’s job, and told Duffy that he was there for him. Class act, all the way! That is the Giant Way!

  8. sandog said, on July 13, 2016 at 7:10 pm

    If you have any interest in the NBA and come across the 30 for 30 on the Orlando Magic, I recommend it. Great story. I forgot how close they were to becoming a dynasty. Shaq leaving them for the Lakers reminds me a bit of Durant coming to the Warriors.

  9. snarkk said, on July 13, 2016 at 8:34 pm

    If Scotland follows thru and leaves the UK, then when they hold the British Open in Scotland like this week at Troon, will it still be the Brtish Open, “the Open” or something else?…

    • unca_chuck said, on July 13, 2016 at 9:25 pm

      The Scottish Open?

      Carstie, don’t know if I’m the only one that caught the Rocky Horror reference.


  10. Paul Sorensen said, on July 13, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    Tom, is Scotland really thinking about leaving the UK? I thought it was just possibly leaving the EU. All those Mel Gibson type wars on films never got Scotland out of the UK….

    • snarkk said, on July 13, 2016 at 11:34 pm

      Yeah, almost immediately after Brexit happened, the Scottish top politico lady declared that another Scotland vote to leave the UK was back on the table due to the radical change of conditions since the Scottish vote to leave the UK failed recently. Scotland by a large polling margin does not want to leave the EU (Scots voted 62/38 margin to Remain in EU), it gets lots of money from the EU. Plus, it benefits from Scots working elsewhere in the EU, and appears to have a net positive impact on its economy of other EU citizens moving freely to Scotland to work. This could very realistically lead to a vote in Scotland to decouple from the UK, and become a separate member of the EU. It has an population about the size of Norway, but per capita GDP about only 2/3 of Norway. The Scots would stand to take control from London over what’s still left of their North Sea oil and gas. Here’s a related link (Telegraph is a conservative leaning paper)

      • eddacker said, on July 14, 2016 at 3:22 am

        My take is Yes, Scotland voted to remain as did many areas of the UK, conservatives everywhere and people over 40. The London vote (funny how those enjoying living in the midst of a thriving market can only see up) and the under 40s who see mobility as a factor affecting their future voted to stay.
        the more working class areas (West and East Mids, Yorkshire, Humberside) put the vote over. Biggest turnout (at 71%) since 1992 at the polls and margin of victory was barely 4%. The misconception that sold the BRexit was immigration. Job lost by lower paid foreigners ruining the lives of working class Brits. Or, in a word, hate fostered by fear.
        To put my money whence I speak, 2 weeks ago I bought $12,000 of sterling. It is in everyone’s interest to negotiate the terms of the exit. If not my gains will be modest. but I do not plan on being in the UK for 2 years. So I can wait.

        last year the Scots voted to stay in the UK. The North Sea money is mostly past and try and spend a Scottish note anywhere in the UK (where it is legal tender sort of) much less the EU.

        I think both issues revolve around renegotiating for the future. I trust those negotiations will be helpful for all.

        BTW only Americans call it the “British” Open. Not that there is anything wrong with that. So it will most likely stay ‘The Open’.

        And because I value book reviews more than financial news I read the Guardian.

  11. eddacker said, on July 14, 2016 at 3:27 am

    Did anyone catch our Giants (the organization) winning the ESPN humanitarian team 2016 award? Junior Giants a big part of that. The Giants will be able to direct a $100,000 grant from ESPN to the Giants Community Fund.


    • chipower9 said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:50 am

      Yes I did. Very cool! The Giants are the class of the class when it comes to community involvement.

  12. gianthead said, on July 14, 2016 at 6:18 am

    Ed answered the question on The Open. But the question then becomes what us obnoxious Yanks will call it if the Scots depart the UK?

    Will give us something to banter about on a Dark Day…I say we call it the The Open Gov’Na…

  13. gianthead said, on July 14, 2016 at 6:21 am

    Looking forward to the new 30/30 on Doc and Darryl. The Magic one was great as well, but if we win 3 titles with Durant as the Lakers did Shaq, so be it:)

    But if Durant leaves for the Lakers in a year and they win 3 titles…I am going to be fucking pissed::)…

  14. blade3colorado said, on July 14, 2016 at 6:46 am

    Doesn’t Trump have a course or courses in Scotland? Knowing him, if he becomes the Prez, he’ll push for the Open or British Open being called . . . The Trump Open. Problem solved.

    • wilcojoe said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:11 am

      Yeah, Trump owns Turnberry which has always been a mainstay in The Open’s course rotation. However I think I read recently where the R&A (their version of the PGA) has announced that it will not host the Open as long as Trump is involved.

      • wilcojoe said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:18 am

        I should correct that. The Royal and Ancient (R&A) would be on par (get it, par) with the United States Golf Association (USGA).

      • blade3colorado said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:27 am

        So, what your saying is that Trump would have to take over Scotland, i.e., send the military there – defeat the Brits and Scots . . . Then slap this on the course, right?

      • gianthead said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:50 am

        Trump Force 1…

  15. willedav said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:36 am

    Edd, had a laugh yesterday ‘s Chron story re: Cameron leaving10 Downing. Treasury Chief Osborne and new Prime Minister May “cited Cameron’s achievements including legalizing same sex marriage, reform of schools and an increased minimum wage”—-the same things American conservatives in GOP here are resolutely against.

  16. gianthead said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:46 am

    What bothered me about adding golf to the Olympics is that they got rid of wrestling…one of the actual original Olympic sports. I think that is kind of outrageous. Plus being half Turkish, the wrestling was one of their only avenues ever medaling…

    • alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2016 at 8:30 am

      Not sure about that GH,I see the wrestling in on the schedule in Rio along with weight lifting and Turkish hookla smoking competition..

  17. chipower9 said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:51 am

    FUCK! One more day without baseball…sigh.

  18. chipower9 said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:52 am

    Stix – I received an email from “ Email titled “American Pravda: The Legacy…”

    Is this from you? Just want to make sure it isn’t some weird-ass phishing attack.


    • blade3colorado said, on July 14, 2016 at 8:27 am

      Stix has a tendency to send only links . . . I have told him more than once to put some verbiage before the link whereby I am able to confirm it is from him. I get these things all the time from him and if he doesn’t take the time to explain what I am linking to, I do not even open it.

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 14, 2016 at 10:55 am

        Mea maxima culpa. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that i forward between 3 and four dozen individual sends per day ~ on average. As our mass media is totally about mind and perception control (the matrix) by the .0000001%; i feel it behooves me to send out a few red pills. Will do what i can to better personalize forwards to you guys henceforth.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 14, 2016 at 10:52 am

      Mea culpa.

  19. willedav said, on July 14, 2016 at 7:58 am

    B-ball in Olympics is going to be awful. Tony Parker, largely a non factor in NBA at his age, scored 26 for France in a semi Euro game. Nuff said.

    I am sad tho that Brazil, a country that could use some good news, is taking such a thrashing. Btw Zika virus, facilities not being ready or up to par, security for tourists and athletes, traffic and pollution in big cities it’s been all bad pub for them.
    Add in the political crisis of impeaching their leader Dilma Roussef over corruption (wow something new?) amid loss of revenue/inflation, Brazilians are having tough go of it, even in football where the coach of national team (Dunga past star) was fired for poor performance during Copa America.

    History of the region is fascinating to me, and Brazil’s issues and problems, like country itself, are big. Eco tour leader I know very well finds it more fascinating than anywhere in world, particularly the Pantenal region he visited last year where he spotted jaguars, birds and exotic creatures.

  20. Flavor said, on July 14, 2016 at 8:49 am

    nowy wątek
    (new thread in Polish)

  21. zumiee said, on July 14, 2016 at 8:51 am

    For many years I didn’t really understand why Portugal only took Brazil in the Treaty of Tordesillas with Spain in the 1500s. I was aware that the line went all the way around the world, as those two naval powers had the audacity to divide the entire planet in half between them, and Portugal got the spice islands in Asia, and those were valuable. I got that.
    But then I read an excellent biography about Magellan and I finally understood how INCREDIBLY valuable the spice islands were and still are. Cinnamon, pepper, nutmeg, and other spices were astronomically profitable in the European market. If a sailor working in the spice trade could just sneak a bag of spices away from his employer, the sailor was set for life. Spain and Portugal ended up fighting over the spice islands, as Spain began to feel they were screwed by the Treaty. Until…..lots of gold and silver were discovered in the Americas. Then suddenly the Treaty looked a lot better to the Spanish.
    Both Portugal and Spain were dominant powers in the 1500s, but empires have a way of not being sustainable forever, and today Portugal and Spain are quiet European nations.
    And there are a bunch of people in Brazil who speak Portuguese.

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