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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 15, 2016

Baseball FINALLY starting again and of course I am missing it. I’m flying down to Del Mar today for one of the greatest and best days, each year, in American sports history: Opening Day, Del Mar. If I was a little younger and a little better at planning trips, I would hit the Giants game, too. Alas, I am neither of those things. Honestly, I am nearly as excited to see San Dawg and his damn van than I am for Opening Day. Will tweet out many pics, follow me @1flapdown77 if you’re interested in seeing the day.

Later.

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  1. blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 6:20 am

    Phil Mickelson with guns? Who knew? Last time I saw him, I thought he was trying out for the role of Pillsbury Dough Boy in the latest Ghostbusters remake.

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 1:18 pm

      Is he spitting into his hand getting ready to rub one out?! lulz

  2. blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 6:49 am

    Tom, loved your story about the Swiss ski trip on the previous thread! I really hate getting hosed while traveling. Rarely happens, but when it does, you often times don’t have a choice, right?

    Related to a day of skiing, I think the worst thing that happened to my exwife and I, was locking our keys in our car at Shasta Ski Park. We had just enjoyed a wonderful day on the slopes and were dead tired . . . Back then, both of us were in fantastic shape and we would milk every minute out of the ski day, often getting in 30 plus runs. Especially true at Shasta, where it was a hidden secret and not many people would visit versus the Tahoe or Bachelor slopes. Consequently, the lift lines were short. Anywho, it took about 2 hours for the (#$%@#%^& tow truck driver to show up and open our car doors. Both of us were exhausted and cold. We still had to drive back to Old Shasta, near Whiskeytown Lake, where we lived. Ugh. Bed time was never so welcomed as when we arrived home.

  3. wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 7:19 am

    Have fun gentlemen. I can only imagine how nice the scenery is going to be. Cant wait to hear how many Cougars you corral in to San Dawg’s van.

  4. chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 7:44 am

    Have a great time, Flav, and we will be looking for picts of you, SanDiggity, and of course, the van!

  5. willedav said, on July 15, 2016 at 7:47 am

    Curious why the Pads would dump Pomeranz, having a great season, making only a mil and under control for another year, for a prospect. Yes the kid is highly rated in Sox system but still only in A ball.
    Huh? Now TBA is listed as Pads SP for Sunday, vs. Cueto.

  6. chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 7:49 am

    Catching-up on the last thread. I am with the lot of you that says trade-away the prospects to load-up on some pitching. Agree with WillieD, I would be inclined to go with late-inning help, and not Chapman (closer).

    And as Zumiee said, the time is right to strike. We need to go for it while this team is in its prime…this team is primed for a deep run, and bullpen help, IMO, will significantly help their chances.

    Also to WillieD’s point, I too hope Parker is in the Giants long-term plans. You can go back over the previous threads this year and see that I have been high on this kid (well, he isn’t THAT young), even when he struggled. Have said many times when the debate was who should go down to Sacto (him or Mac), that Parker should stick, and also that Parker should be out there almost every day until Pence returns.

    Mrsportsdude – have reached-out a few times now, but getting nothing in return. It seems you too are headed for Boston? Will you be there for the Giant-Sox series? If so, let Blade and I know…would be cool to meet-up.

  7. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:30 am

    This is the entrance to Del Mar that I am expecting. Make it so dawg.

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:57 am

      lulz

  8. willedav said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:49 am

    Lot of posts lately on skiing a sport I never tried. Big story yesterday in Chron about low snowpack (only 87 pct of avg in Sierra this year) in Calif this year and what it means for water and the ongoing drought. “This was followed by swift melt off of snow that is expected to produce only 3 quarters of the water that normally flows from the mountains through July.”

    Also mentioned how extent of snow over entire Northern Hemisphere equals 2012 “for most paltry in decades.”
    Further, “..extent of sea ice in the Arctic at record lows during most of first half of the year.”

    Meanwhile Trump announces VP choice from Indiana that is big coal industry champion and like T climate change denier.

  9. wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:05 am

    This is a sneaky smart pick for Trump. He needs someone that can appeal to the mid-America states and a big name like Gingrich or Christie would have been too similar to himself, personality wise. He’s got the south wrapped up and this could push him over the top in the Midwest.

    This pick scares the hell out of me. If this guy somehow balances Trump out (i.e. Mild mannered, more in line with traditional republican values, etc…) I think Trump pulls this off. Whatver happens, the next four months are going to be the most interesting times in political history.

  10. wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:18 am

    There was an interesting article in the New York Times that suggested that Trump could in fact step down after winning the presidential nomination. I actually could see that happening. I truely believe he see’s this race as nothing more than a game. Winning the presidency and then saying “you know, as much as the free world loves me and I just pulled off the greatest upset for the most powerful position in the world I really don’t feel like doing all of this dirty work. It’s beneath me. I am done.” The article went in to great detail on how the timing of his resignation would impact who gets his seat. Intersting article, I would post if I wasn’t on my phone.

  11. unca_chuck said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:39 am

    I seriously doubt that happens, Joe. Trump is in heaven what with all the attention he’s getting and the distinct possibility of him running the free world.

    It may have started as a lark, but this shit is dead serious now. I’ve been saying all along that we are one Ill-timed snafu from Hills to have El Doosh as prez.

    Thing is, even if Trump wins he’ll end up with more obstructionists around him than even Obama. Both parties will be shotgunning his ludicrous actions from day one. Another 4 years of stagflation.

    • wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:47 am

      You’re absolutely right. One can only hope that he will eventually see that he will actually be powerless once in office, and that he will have no where to go but downhill in terms of his legacy and public perception if he indeed takes the hot seat. That may be our only hope.

  12. wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:42 am

    Lot of concerned Astros fans regarding the direction of ownership and the front office. Everyone expected them to call up their top prospect (#8 in baseball)Alex Bregman. Bregman a SS in college and thus far in the minors is absolutely tearing it up. That includes huge games in both the AA all star and futures game last week. He has the natural size and ability to play 3B, a current weakness for the big club and of course they have Correa entrenched at SS.

    Unless they are considering trading him as part of a blockbuster deal for a front line arm, it is unfathomable as to why he isn’t in Houston or at least starting every day at 3b in the minors.

  13. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:46 am

    If Trump somehow got elected, then many of societies institutions will have failed. The political system, the news media, arts and entertainment, the educational system, religious institutions, and a few others. To have come this far as a nation, historically, and then elect a fascist would be a colossal failure of these institutions.

    • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:54 am

      Nate Silver’s 538 site currently has Trump at a 35% chance. Lower than Romney and McCain, but as several of you have said, there’s still a few months to go for more bizarreness to happen. For one thing, Hillary just isn’t all that good of a campaigner. You’d think she’d have learned something from Obama over the years, who had two masterful campaigns. But the Clintons, in general, tend to be arrogant and not open to outside ideas.
      She’s still way better than Trump, overall, though, IMO.

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:25 am

        Though in many ways personally loathsome, Trump is waaay less likely to get us involved in a humanity-ending nuclear war than the Hildebeast. He likes making deals. Meanwhile, there is a long trail of dead bodies haunting the Clintons.

      • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 11:29 am

        I am with Zumiee on this one. I was a UGE Bernie supporter. Monthly contributions, one-off contributions, etc.

        Trump must be stopped at ALL COSTS.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:10 am

      Bear in mind, Zumiee, that every single ONE of those institutions is corrupted, some totally so. They have been corrupted by private ownership of the Federal Reserve Bank and the consequent ability of its trillionaire owners to buy just about every potential minion out there. Name me one institution you named which you consider to not be corrupted.

      • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:25 am

        Yeah, I can see your point. Although not all of them are to the same degree.

      • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 11:30 am

        May be true, but it does not change the fact for me that Trump must be stopped at all costs.

  14. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:59 am

    The Dodgers have ended up with a big stockpile of pitchers. Just like the Giants with all these fill-in position players, the Dodgers will have some tough roster decisions to make as guys start coming off the DL soon.

    • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:02 am

      Both teams could lose somebody trying to sneak them through waivers to AAA.

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:12 am

        That’s where creative trades might come into play ~think pizza menus of prospects plus waiver bait.

  15. unca_chuck said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:13 am

    Zumie, the biggest thing that have directed the country down this path of blase ignorance and absolute corporate greed, at least in my head, is the fact that Citizens United passed, corporations have rights, health care becoming a business rather than social service, drug companies given the green light to market their prescription products, deregulation of just about everything, and news becoming entertainment rather than being journalism.

    Throw in the fact that Congress and the Senate have no term limits, and therefore have no accountability to anyone but the lobbyists and PACs and corporations shoveling money to them, leads to a situation where the government isn’t doing anything for their constituency. Their full time job is to gather money to stay put. The disconnect is real and getting worse.

    This has taken a long time, and many different things happened to get us here, but it has created a situation where important things that the populace needs to be informed of gets lost in the noise. I give this model 10 years before there is active backlash. The current model of the rich getting richer and the government only looking out for themselves at the cost of the middle class is what brought France down all those years ago.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:22 am

      10 years is rather optimistic, Chuck. Just yesterday i read at Unz Review an essay titled “Prescription for Genocide”, where working class whites, particularly in the Rust Belt and in devastated New England post-industrial towns as well as declining Appalachian coal towns, have in huge numbers been dying from prescribed opioids, massively profiting Big Pharma, long the primary province of the Rockefeller Crime Family.

      The corruption is everywhere. Baseball remains one of the few refuges where the corruption is still relatively minimal ~ even when compared with the other major sports.

    • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:33 am

      Yeah, I agree that things can’t continue as they are. The strong feeling is growing ever stronger amongst people about how much they’re getting ripped off by the super wealthy, who have stacked the rules in their favor.
      I read a thing that said that the baby boom generation isn’t saving enough money, like their parents did.
      Well, criminy! Our parents didn’t get gouged for everything like we do. My parents paid a pittance for a middle class house after WWII. And groceries, gas, healthcare, and all the other stuff wasn’t so gouging in those days. So, yeah, it is harder for the later generations to save money. No kidding.

      And the Founding Fathers never visualized people would make a career out of serving in Congress. The Founders should have put term limits in for those positions. But now it won’t happen, because Congress will never vote to give itself term limits.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:47 pm

        I hope you don’t mind – I used your quote (last paragraph) in a FB comment post. I did attribute it to a “friend,” but did not mention your name. Great post!

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 11:32 am

      You nailed it with Citizens United, Charlie. That shit MUST be overturned. Get the fucking money outta politics. That will be a START.

  16. unca_chuck said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:57 am

    Yeah, people are living longer and therefore NEED more money to retire on. Then you get Congress pushing SS benefits out a few more years, and it gets insane.

    Healthcare costs alone are the single biggest thing causing bankruptcy in this country. One illness can wipe out 2 generations of savings. And this when you ARE insured. I had hope for healthcare reform, but we didn’t get shit with Obamacare. Yeah, it’s great that the millions without insurance are now covered, but without reform in the healthcare INDUSTRY, all they are doing is passing the buck to those insured. Now that everyone HAS to be insured, part-time workers are getting royally hosed. To the tune of $800.00 a month for insurance and up.

    Insurance that doesn’t cover shit.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 15, 2016 at 1:42 pm

      Chuck: All civilized countries have governmental single payer. It could probably be financed simply through a modest tax on stock market transactions.

  17. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 15, 2016 at 11:07 am

    I’m pretty excited for the 2nd half of BASEBALL. Just sayin.

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 11:33 am

      Me too, Dirt!

  18. blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 11:29 am

    If Trump gets elected, I’ll probably be in Vietnam with Paul. Shit, I may be there regardless of which imbecile gets elected. One thing about Vietnam is that they don’t tolerate bullshit, e.g., people in trucks running down children or shooting guns in theaters, schools, gay clubs, or anywhere else. A great communist country, which loves capitalism, but without the aforementioned bullshit. Plus, they love Americans.

  19. bassbaldy said, on July 15, 2016 at 12:21 pm

    FYI … Nice interleague match up today with the Cubs hosting the Rangers … Damn, I missed baseball!

    I see Maddon has juggled the LU slightly moving Addison Russell up to the 5th spot (wondering if his AS selection influenced Maddon in making that move) batting in front of Heyward who has been moved down … Russell just knocked in a run with a 2b .. 1-0 Cubs, going to the 4th.

  20. wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 12:32 pm

    I just caught a glimpse of San Dawg’s van on Flav’s Twitter and I have to say I am a bit disappointed. It looks like a half way decent minivan. It’s not a full view, so it’s hard to tell. I was expecting some early model, ford econoliner, child molester van with no windows. But they did valet!

    • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 12:41 pm

      “Bruce Berry was a working man, he used to load that Econoline…..van.
      And late at night when the people were gone, he used to pick up my guitar and play….”

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 1:21 pm

      Let’s see some picts here…not everyone tweets (and I have no desire)…

      • wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 2:24 pm

        I am not signed up to Twitter nor Facebook for that matter. If you just type in the address Craig listed in his entry post above, it will take you to his page.

      • wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 2:25 pm

        Unca posted it below.

      • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:10 pm

        Did not know that, Wilco. Thanks!

      • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:12 pm

        That link (that Unca posted) is not SanDiggity’s van. I think his is more a “soccer mom” van. Gotta see some picts…

  21. chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    Just tee-d up my next game, post Boston-NYC. My daughter and I are going down to catch our boys play the O’s on August 14. All Black and Orange match!

    Will be a first – we are taking the ferry from Vallejo to the ballpark. They serve cocktails! WHOOP!

    • unca_chuck said, on July 15, 2016 at 2:19 pm

      Yeah, if I lived closer to Alameda/Oakland, I’d much prefer the Ferry to Bart.

      • sfsarge said, on July 15, 2016 at 2:56 pm

        The ferry is cool, but they only run one back. I went with my middle daughter on a freezing cold night. The night we took the pic for my avatar, and she wanted to leave early because she was freezing. Instead of freezing inside the park, we froze by the dock waiting for the boat to leave.

      • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:15 pm

        Well, it will be August, but one of my coldest days in the City was a double header with the cubbies at the Stick. We were right under the overhang, first base line. It was so damned cold that between innings people would get out of their seats and walk down and stand in the sun. So, no guarantee it will be balmy next month. We’ll be prepared (layers).

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:13 pm

      Will by my first trip via the ferry. Looking forward to it! T-up a bloody mary and enjoy the ride.

  22. unca_chuck said, on July 15, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    Cool as ever . . . indeeed

    https://mobile.twitter.com/1flapdown77/status/754031534202556417/photo/1

    Is that Diggity in the pic? Or the valet? Shit, or is that flav?

    • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 2:55 pm

      Could be the Dawg.

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:30 pm

      That’s Diggity! That’s bad ass. We need some more picts of the van, boys. Cannot really get a good read on her in that pict. Also need a shot of the speedometer with the hole drilled in it!

  23. unca_chuck said, on July 15, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    This is what I pictured in my head . . .

    Want Some Candy?

    Some friends of ours that lived in Hawaii had an ’85 Aerostar Minivan that was beat to hell, and a manual trans to boot. Drove like a champ but 15 years of sea spray took a toll on the body. This aibn;t it, but it’s close . . .

    • wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 2:22 pm

      That’s awesome!

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:32 pm

      I spent a little over 100 days on Guam with the air force. You could rent cars from folks easily…peopled called ’em Guam Bombs…and they were always absolute rust buckets!

  24. wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    Bonds doesn’t seem to be getting any mention for the Marlins offensive success in the first half. Of course, hitting coaches never do. It is interesting to note that the Marlins have 3 of the top 7 league leaders in batting (Prado, Realmuto and Yelich) none of which were household names coming into this season. Throw in Giancarlo Stanton and that is a damn fine lineup Bonds has in south Florida.

  25. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    Bochy’s going with Blanco instead of Parker tonight. Drives me nuts.

    • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 3:29 pm

      Cashner might have thrown a meatball to Parker.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 3:47 pm

        Cashner is a gas can waiting to happen. If they weren’t playing in that mausoleum down south, I would have a stack of GMen players this evening in DFS (especially our lefties with the platoon advantage). As it is, I am going with Craw at SS, with the best WAR in the NL (yes, better than Seager). I almost pulled the trigger on Belt too – his walk rate is unfrickingbelievable, so you always get at least a few DFS points with him. However, I had to take Ortiz playing in NY, with that short right field porch, especially against Pineda.

    • djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 3:53 pm

      djloo27 said, on July 12, 2016 at 8:14 pm (Edit)

      I feel like Parker is not in the Giants future plans.
      Not sure why I feel that way…

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:33 pm

      I hear you. As I have said many times…until Pence is back, Parker should be in there almost every day.

  26. alleykat69 said, on July 15, 2016 at 3:38 pm

    God I work with a bunch of “DUMBSHITS””” that’s all I’m gonna say!!!!

  27. blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    Shocked that a military coup is happening in Turkey. Three short years ago, I was in Istanbul, one of the most beautiful cities I have ever seen (e.g., Hagia Sophia, Blue Mosque, Basilica cistern, Grand Bizaar/Spice Bazaar, and Galata Tower).

    Now, I wouldn’t even go to Europe, much less Turkey. Frickin’ terrorists have everyone fearful of what’s next (fill in the blank).

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 15, 2016 at 4:21 pm

      Good coup. “Sultan” Erdogan is totally a NWO Islamist shithead and has played a major role in supplying and facilitating ISIS, including an oil trade for petroleum they stole from Syria and Iraq, in which his family has made million$ upon million$.

      • djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 4:26 pm

        Hard to believe 20 years have passed since Hulk Hogan shockingly joined the NWO…

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:35 pm

      Agree. I have no desire to travel overseas. That is why I bought a travel trailer brother. I am going to run that fucker all over the US and parts of Canada. Glad I got my opportunities to spend some time in the UK, Asia, and mainland Europe, but no way in hell I want to travel overseas, now. Maybe a trip to the Caribbean or New Zealand, but that’s about it.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:03 pm

        Chi, you should go to Vietnam. They know how to deal with assholes. Shit, I have no problem walking the streets there at 1am . . . Ask Paul. Safest place on Earth.

  28. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 4:12 pm

    Smoltz: “I don’t think you at home realize just how great a play that was.”

    Bite me, condescending broadcaster.

    • djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 4:13 pm

      I’ll always despise him, Maddux and Glavine…

      • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 4:17 pm

        I generally like Smoltz as a broadcaster, but once in a while he really annoys me.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 4:23 pm

        It didn’t get out in the media too much, but Maddux was a gasbag extraordinaire. Some of the pranks he pulled, were some of the crudest imaginable and often involved shit . . . literally. A bigger douche I don’t think can be found.

  29. unca_chuck said, on July 15, 2016 at 4:13 pm

    Yeah, some people I work with just missed out on all this mayhem. One wa sin France during the soccer thing and said it was insanity. She said Marseilles was destroyed by rioters and all the restaurants in town stopped using glass glasses and served everything out of plastic cups. Said the streets were literally covered in broken glass.

    I feel lucky we got through our trip to Italy last year without any weirdness.

    • djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 4:29 pm

      Finnerty’s served Guinness to me and MacDog in plastic cups at the 2014 trophy viewing…

      • wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 5:04 pm

        Lulz!

      • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:37 pm

        Hilarious! Some classy shit there…

  30. gianthead said, on July 15, 2016 at 4:34 pm

    Carstie is dead on about the dictator Erdogan…I was just telling you Flappers I am half Turkish. And my family there are very much stringent anti-Edroganists. But the evil scum is a populist dictator not much like Hitler or Mussolini. His roots were in Islamic politics and he has torn down Ataturk’s secular traditions ..I fear the coup is going to fail with poor planning and poor execution. They had to grab Erdogan as the first step.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 7:16 pm

      I hope they don’t damage or destroy any antiquities. Like I said, Istanbul is a beautiful city. A shame if force is used.

  31. djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    For some reason Met announcers have digressed to discussing this great day in my life:

    http://tinyurl.com/h3dl3h9

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:39 pm

      How did you become a Chiefs fan, Loo? Maybe a story over a beer (or two) while I am in NY…

  32. wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    MLB extra innings package is free this week, I think the same is true for mlbtv.com

  33. alleykat69 said, on July 15, 2016 at 5:34 pm

    Jeremy Affeldt cracks me up.He was just talking to Tom Tolbert and they were shooting the shit about when the catcher goes to the mound and he mentioned a time when Bentio Santiago came out to talk to him on how he wanted to throw to David Ortiz and Jeremy said I’ll start him out with a curve, Bentio said ok,goes back behind the plate and puts down the numerous uno fastball down and away.Affeldt’s laughing to Tommy “How the hell can you forget what we just talked about in 60ft??? Just classic!

  34. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 6:10 pm

    The Padres decided to be annoying and start the game so late.

    • willedav said, on July 15, 2016 at 6:25 pm

      maybe they’re still pissed about 2010.
      Or Cody Ross.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 15, 2016 at 6:54 pm

      Wow! Just checked and it’s 20 to ten real time ~ speaking from a CDT perspective. Crazy nuts. As left coasters you guys are more than aware that most national media post everything from an EDT angle. That might have made sense 50 years ago. Nowadays, the national population center is 20 miles or so SW of St. Louis and continuing to migrate southwestwards. It would make sense if the media would get off their eastcoast bias and go by Central Time. That would set the East back an hour, the mountaineers ditto and you folks out in the far West only two instead of a miserable 3 hours.

  35. djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 6:25 pm

    Span
    Pagan
    Belt
    Posey
    Crawford
    Gillaspie
    Blanco
    Peña
    Bumgarner

  36. gianthead said, on July 15, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    I mean I missed a political discussion today????

    Sorry to tell you all Citizens United is not the problem. Any individual or corporation should be allowed to spend whatever they want to defend their interests. I’m telling you all most of the money spent on lobbying is spent on trying to stop being screwed over by the government. i.e. playing defense. The great abuse of special favors being done was mostly based on politicians sneaking things in through the appropriations process through earmarks. Well those special earmarks have been done away with in recent reforms.

    Citizens United was also a reaction to McCain-Feingold which put bigger limits on the political parties. So the game switched from where the parties had greater power to a system to where corporate/personal interests spend what they think they need to spend to to defend their interests. Corporations have interests. That is just reality. After McCain-Feingold passed but before Citizens United, George Soros was spending millions of his own dollars trying to influence elections. Why was he allowed to do so but not corporations? So people on the politocal right/corporate side just followed what Soros had done first and that lead to Citizens United.

    The biggest problem in my humble opinion is that elections have become so expensive that these Members in the House who are running every two years spend literally all their time trying to raise money. My solution is to cap all elections at $2 mill per House seat, $1 mill primary and $1 mill general and raise the contribution level to $50k per contribution. Senate seats will have different caps based on population. And no fundraising within 30 days of an election.

    So if I am Joe Schmo and need to raise $1 mill, I can do that with 20 contributions and maybe that takes me a day or two to raise. As long as all those contributions are completely and immediately transparent, the voters can judge on their own who is trying to influence their vote and vote in reaction.

    For those politicians who run against multimillionaires who self-finance past what I would suggest as a cap, the millionaire can’t lend their campaigns any money within 30 days of an election and the opponent can then raise money past the cap level and also within 30 days of an election to allow them to match what a millionaire pours in.

    • gianthead said, on July 15, 2016 at 7:22 pm

      I’m not necessarily against the concept of public financing of campaigns at that cap level I suggested. For those that have to run against millionaires, they should be exempted to then raise money over the cap to match what a millionaires spends on their campaign.

      The problem with single payer health care is that a ton of the best doctors in our country are going to retire to avoid dealing with govt run health care, so then those of us who would have to rely on govt health care will have less qualified doctors and many who would have been trained in non-US schools. Solution is to beef up ObamaCare to let, or force if need be, insurance companies compete nationwide and money an individual insurance company loses on treating pre-existing conditions and other severe health conditions is treated as a tax write off for those insurers.

      • gianthead said, on July 15, 2016 at 7:24 pm

        Now I’m going to bed..this coup has exhausted me…go Giants

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:47 pm

      You have got to be kidding me, Head! Citizens United is the worst thing that EVER HAPPENED to democracy. I absolutely disagree with your comment “Any individual or corporation should be allowed to spend whatever they want to defend their interests. I’m telling you all most of the money spent on lobbying is spent on trying to stop being screwed over by the government.” You are entitled to your opinions, and I appreciate that we live in a country that allows such. But, on both points I vehemently disagree. First, big money, whether from an individual, but ESPECIALLY from corporations, should NEVER be allowed in politics. Second, the lobbyist are just about as big a problem as the dirty money. Actually, the lobbyists are the ears, eyes, and mouthpieces of all that corrupt money. Both need to go, IMO.

  37. mrsprtdude said, on July 15, 2016 at 7:29 pm

    Good thoughts Ghead…

    • gianthead said, on July 15, 2016 at 7:47 pm

      Thanks friend…of course I’m pretty good friends with Mike Pence, former neighbor. Moved back to Indiana when he ran for Governor. Now have to swallow my tongue when it comes to Trump:(

  38. Macdog said, on July 15, 2016 at 7:41 pm

    When’s this game start? I guess the Padres aren’t anxious to get the second half started.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 7:48 pm

      lulz

  39. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    Blanco swung at ball 4.

  40. djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:17 pm

    Pena’s a keeper.
    Baggs is now touting Huston Street – about 3 weeks after I did.
    Everyone reads this thing…

    • ewisco said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:27 pm

      H street is so not the answer. What is needed is someone to fill that “fireman” role that Jeremy affeldt so brilliantly filled in 2010 and 2014. Who would you trust to full that role in the 2016 post season?

      • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:37 pm

        (crickets)

      • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:47 pm

        They need to get someone.

      • djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:49 pm

        You never really know with most relievers. The Giants don’t have a lot to offer. They have to take what they can get. That’s why I think it’s gonna be Street…

      • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:26 pm

        Miller from the YankMees. Problem is I don’t think the Giants would deal any top prospects (Arroyo, etc.), but I think that is what it would take to make that deal fly. As I believe Flav said earlier, Shaw isn’t going to get that deal done.

      • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:27 pm

        You have some great insight, Loo, but I hope you are wrong with Street.

  41. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:36 pm

    That 3-1 pitch to Pagan called a strike. A great argument for automated ball and strike calls.

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:24 pm

      lulz. We’ve had that conversation here a couple hundred times. I would be down with a trial of it, or have them trial it in the minors, or during ST. Some games it is so bad, it makes you want to scream for an automated strike/ball caller (robot).

  42. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    Gillaspie’s fielding is not awesome.

  43. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    Bum’s stuff isn’t his A stuff tonight.

    • djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:52 pm

      There was no need to start him tonight. Who was the last Giant to start consecutive games?
      “Iron Man” McGinnity in 1835?

      • Macdog said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:05 pm

        MadBum did it in 2014, won both games.

  44. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:51 pm

    Miller and Kuiper were pretty gentle on Gillaspie. A lot of thirdbasemen would have made that play.

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:18 pm

      Yeah, I disagree with the official scoring on that one. I think that is a play a 3rd baseman should make. Not an easy play, but a makable one, IMO.

  45. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 8:59 pm

    Bum’s slider is getting raked.

  46. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    Who’da thunk Cashner would be real sharp tonight?

  47. blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    Krukow on assignment? What does that mean? He must still be in Reno gambling. lulz

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:17 pm

      Every week one of them is “on assignment.” Who knows what the fuck they are doing, or if it is just a way to cover a planned day off.

      • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:21 pm

        Days off, except for Fleming who sometimes has an ESPN gig.

    • wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:28 pm

      I find the “on assignment” line somewhat patronizing. So the Giants and Comcast/KNBR have assigned Fleming a gig with ESPN? Really? They need to come up with a better line.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:34 pm

        It makes no sense. Empty line, as they will not follow up on what this mystery “assignment” is.

      • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:37 pm

        They act like it’s something sneaky for them to get days off in the middle of the season. Who cares? No one cares. Just call them days off.

      • djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:44 pm

        It’s like when you call someone’s office and the receptionist says “he stepped away from his desk”
        As opposed to what? He just left on a fuckin’ pogo stick?

  48. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    Cashner didn’t do jack vs. the Dodgers last week.
    Myers didn’t do jack vs. the Dodgers last week.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:23 pm

      Yeah, he got killed against the Dodgers – negative 10 points in DFS. That’s worse than terrible. That’s baseball for you.

  49. chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    Well, there is still a lot of ball left, so our boys could still pull this out, but it sure as hell is not looking like a W for Bum. I suppose if we went on a tear here, that could all change. Giddy up boys!

  50. blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    Bum has zilch. I have to agree with Loo’s comment before the break about adjusting the rotation to give Bum and Cueto a break. Fairly obvious that Bum could have used another day or two off. Too many innings for both him and Cueto in the 1st half.

  51. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    Hat trick for Belt.

  52. djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    If this team is ever fully healthy, Duffy and Span should bat 7th and 8th…

    • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:44 pm

      Span is looking like a dud signing. And 2 1/2 years left on the contract.

      • wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:47 pm

        Can you imagine how grey that beard is going to be by the end of his contract?

      • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:47 pm

        Mine, too. 🙂

      • djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:06 pm

        ♫♪Waste big money at Denard’s♫♪

      • djloo27 said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:17 pm

        Span in his final contract year:

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:49 pm

      LMAO. Haven’t heard the “Duffy needs to move down” comment in a while. Welcome back old friend. And I have not changed my tune either, Loo…I still think he was fine where he was in the LU. Another conversation to be had over another cold one…

      • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:01 pm

        Agree. However, I’m a die hard Duffy fan (Pagan too . . . HAHAHAHA).

  53. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    The Padres start a righthander tomorrow night. I really hope Blanco is not starting tomorrow.

  54. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    Starting both Span and Blanco together is brutal.

  55. chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    You know at one time (especially right after Pence went down) there was talk that the Giants needed to go get an OFer as much as they needed some relief help. I think they will be fine, but they need to…well, I have only said what I have to say about Parker about 147 times already today…let that dog lie for now.

    • zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:59 pm

      Parker’s on-base is .365, with power. It’s not like we could have used that tonight….

  56. chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    Man, this game just gets uglier and uglier. I think it is time for a cold beer and a hot tub…

    • wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:04 pm

      Man, that sounds great. What’s the low temp up in the foothills about now, 60 degrees or so? Shit my pool is basically a hot tub. It’s about 90 degrees during the day. We are lucky if our lows get under 80 degrees at night.

  57. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    And now our awesome bullpen….

  58. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    Great play, Craw. He never stops competing.

  59. Paul Sorensen said, on July 15, 2016 at 9:59 pm

    Yeah, Chuck, I know I was one of us who said that (really should go out and get a “real” OFer), but once it was clear they weren’t going to do that, I was also fine with giving Parker and Mac a good look-see. But they’re not really giving Parker or Mac a good look-see. I remember one year, must’ve been the last year Aurelia played, and at that point, he was just a back-up, did not feature in any near or long-term future plans, and Bochy penciled him in to start the first game after the break. The future is now, gentlemen… either play those “kids”, or go get someone real. Then again…. it sounds like Pence might be back sooner than was originally anticipated, so, there’s that….

    • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:05 pm

      Did you see my FB post? My mom sent me an email this evening, saying that my theme song should be American Woman. She also gave me the lyrics in case I didn’t know them or forgot them. I posted them on my FB post. Hilarious.

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:07 pm

      Yes, both Pence and Panik are supposedly ready to start re-habs now. But I hear (and agree with) what you are saying, Paul. I have leaned more towards Parker between him and Mac, but both should be getting a bunch more playing time. And I would start Pagan almost regularly and let Span figure his shit out. To Span: “You’re killing me Smalls!”

  60. chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    Span sucks. I hope he can turn it around some, but I am not holding my breath!

  61. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    Mr. Gray-beard Rally-killer.

  62. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    Like Rowand, he has a stupid batting stance that doesn’t work.

  63. blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    Mustard?

    • wilcojoe said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:16 pm

      Cheese wiz from nachos.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:22 pm

        Ahh!

  64. Paul Sorensen said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    Yeah, Steve, just saw that. Very funny…. 🙂 Nice little party at Vinyl last night, the Heineken girl’s birthday. Always fun.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:16 pm

      I will return . . . Like MacArthur

    • chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:19 pm

      A part of me is certainly jealous, fellas (remembering my days in SE Asia with the AF). But I wouldn’t trade my current gig for anything. Life is good…and I am sure it is good there, too!

  65. Paul Sorensen said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    As for Span, I had hoped when we got him that he would turn out to be another Reggie Sanders ala 2002. A final piece that really put it together that year. Turns out (so far) not at all to be the case. Management took a shot with Span, and now we’re wondering what the hell to do with that. Too much money to eat, but he’s really not helping. How ballsy will Sabevans be in the next 2 weeks? I’d like to see some mucho ballsy….

  66. zumiee said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    Belt with the golden sombrero.

  67. chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    Good to see Belt get all passionate! Hell, Bochy may as well blow-up, too!

  68. chipower9 said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    What an ugly game. Wash that shit off and go get ’em tomorrow! Okay…that cold beer and hot tub is definitely in order, now! Later, FU.

  69. blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    I don’t think Belt or Bochy got their money’s worth. This guy got his money’s worth . . . Especially love the hand grenade throw.

  70. unca_chuck said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    Blehhhh. No whelm yet from D (P) – Span.

    Yeah, I’m with Chuck. No term limits, Citizens United, and a health care industry gone totally full-greed mode is killing this country.

    More people are wiped out financially by something that should be if not free, at least affordable. I need shoulder surgery, something I had done 10 years ago. 10 years ago that cost me ~$400.00. Now the same surgery is going to cost me $3,500. That ain’t inflation.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:27 pm

      My 2008 shoulder and bicep costs were $200 ($100 for the MRI and $100 for the surgery). Thank God for retirement health benefits. By the by, I would go to Panama city, Panama Chuck for your shoulder surgery. Quite a few major US hospitals located there and most of the physicians have been trained in the U.S.

  71. Paul Sorensen said, on July 15, 2016 at 10:49 pm

    Steve and Chuck, same with some of the major international hospitals in SEAsia. A lot of “medical tourism” packages. Bumrungrad Hospital in Bangkok is amazing, like a 5 star hotel, efficient, excellent international doctors, fraction of the costs in the western world. I guess Singapore and even Vietnam and also Malaysia have some good ones, but I go to Bumrungrad when I have a problem….. Had a friend in China who needed by-pass surgery a few years back. Going back to the US to take care of it would’ve cost over 100,000USD *with* insurance. He had it done at Bumrungrad for under 5000USD, cash. It’s all pretty much cash and carry “over here”, very few expats I know even have insurance. Although I’m starting to look into have expat insurance, just getting to that age when things… start… happening…

    • blade3colorado said, on July 16, 2016 at 7:08 am

      Good points Paul . . . Almost forgot, in Vietnam I’ve had thousands of dollars of dental work done (2 front tooth porcelain caps, 2 wisdom teeth removed, and 2 cleanings for about $365 total).


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