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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 3, 2016

Glad I didn’t have to watch any of that. I don’t understand why Philly’s record is so bad, every time I pay attention to them they play great. Some tweets floating around that Smith’s stuff looked very good, despite the results. Thoughts?

Definitely some positives to take from the comeback, the bombs, the 2 SB’s from Span…..

Big start for Cueto. He’s been bad since the 2nd half re-start.

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  1. blade3colorado said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    Pfffttt! Fucking Nunez.

  2. bassbaldy said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    Uncle!

  3. gianthead said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    It is officially Noonan from now on..F!!!

  4. snarkk said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    “Nunie” looks like he’s got an iron glove so far…

  5. blade3colorado said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    Anyone want Duffy back now?

    • Lurker John said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:11 pm

      Maybe the Rays will reconsider and take Panik instead.

  6. willedav said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    wow another f-up by nunez. At least this one can’t cost 4 runs.
    Ball game. 4 more hours of suckitude.

  7. zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:10 pm

  8. Lurker John said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    Gee, who didn’t see that coming. Please tell me this is rock bottom.

  9. unca_chuck said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    Wow. We suck. Bochy fucked this one badly.

  10. Bozo said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    That my friends, is the bottom.

    • bassbaldy said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:47 pm

      I thought the triple play was the bottom, then last night’s debacle was the bottom. Now this! Ugh! When will it ever end?

  11. Macdog said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    A phuckin’ nightmare.

  12. Lurker John said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    I thought Nunez was supposed to be good defensively. Psych!

    • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:13 pm

      He played that one like a rookie. There was never going to be a play at second base. Rookies are always fishing for stuff where there’s no fish. But he’s not a rookie.

    • bassbaldy said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:19 pm

      Well, a few days ago I had mentioned that I had heard otherwise from what I thought was a decent source and got thoroughly scalded … I will shut up now … goodnight all.

      • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:24 pm

        You questioned his arm strength, which was not an issue on that play.

      • bassbaldy said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:28 pm

        Wrong! I mentioned his arm strength as part of the overall topic of weak defense … obviously from ladt nights error his arm is strong, but accuracy may be an issue.

      • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:36 pm

        My memory of it is that BF was talking about Nunez’s arm-strength. I guess we disagree.

      • Lurker John said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:37 pm

        Something Duffy has no issue with. That’s right, I’m still harping on the ill-advised Duffy trade.

      • bassbaldy said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:43 pm

        Correct, BF was speaking specifically of arm but, at the time, the general flow of the thread related to overall defense abilities. My input was summarily dismissed.

      • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 9:21 pm

        The issue was the way you said it, showing zero respect for the guy whose blog it is.

      • Flavor said, on August 4, 2016 at 6:36 am

        you specifically questioned my comment about his arm strength, like I was making it up. Go back and re-read the thread and don’t give me any of your bullshit about the “general flow of the thread”. My main issue with you that day was the fact that you basically called me a liar. I stated my source (Gladden) you hazily cited some writer in Minnesota who said he had a bad arm. I said I stand by what Dan Gladden says (ABOUT ARM STRENGTH, NOT DEFENSIVE ABILITIES) but also noted that he might be a homer like Kruk and that we would ultimately see if he had a strong arm or not when he played. And the disagreement was 100% related to arm strength on defense. Your *input* was not summarily dismissed. The fact that you were suggesting I made something up was the problem. And as I said that day, you can stick your “oh reallys” up your ass.
        And then you start sqawking last night like you were somehow proven correct by the Nunez error. You’re aware, I hope, that last night’s error didn’t have anything to do with arm strength, right? Regardless, I don’t care one fucking whit about whether he’s got a strong arm or not. But I’m not gonna stand by silently while you fuck with me about the validity of my posts. Gladden said it, I repeated it. I do not lie, got it?
        I told you to drop it and we were moving on and then you fucking bring it up again last night. WTF is wrong with you. DROP IT AND MOVE THE FUCK ON…..
        And that last point is an important one. I haven’t said a single fucking thing about our dispute since the moment I told you to drop it and move on. I dropped it and moved on. Then you fucking bring it up again last night and the kicker was that you weren’t even clucking about the dispute correctly! Arm strength dumb ass, not defensive ability, THAT was our dispute.

  13. snarkk said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    This isn’t a slump, it’s a nosedive.
    Bochy is starting to wear this shit, HOFer or not…

  14. wilcojoe said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    It might be time to get a look at Arroyo. It can’t hurt.

    • Bozo said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:29 pm

      Ain’t happening until September..

  15. djloo27 said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    At least it’s only 11:12 PM here – not 2:12 AM…

    • snarkk said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:13 pm

      Early cratering is better, you can drink more…

      • blade3colorado said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:14 pm

        lulz

    • wilcojoe said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:14 pm

      Silver linings!

    • Bozo said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:29 pm

      Agreed, Loo.

  16. unca_chuck said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:13 pm

    Duffy is still out. Not sure how he makes that play.

    • snarkk said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:14 pm

      Skeeter may have better paws than Nunie’s hands…

    • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:14 pm

      Good point. Duffy wouldn’t have been in there anyway.

      • Lurker John said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:17 pm

        But Skeeter may have better paws than Nunie’s hands.

  17. gianthead said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    How he handled Cueto in the 8th makes me think of his old half sober days in the dugout…

  18. snarkk said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:17 pm

    It’s obvious this Pen is so inconsistent, Bochy hasn’t figured it out. It’s easier to be a genius manager of the Pen when the Pen as a group gets guys out consistently…

  19. unca_chuck said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:18 pm

    I get not trusting the pen, but still you can’t leave the guy out there after 2 bombs in the 7th a walk and a single in the 8th.

    • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:21 pm

      At a high pitchcount, that seemed pretty weird.

  20. zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    Yeah, when the starting pitchers were doing real well, it made the bullpen tolerable; but with the starters struggling now, the bullpen is not tolerable. The starters have to get better again.

    • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:22 pm

      Or the season is toast.

    • unca_chuck said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:23 pm

      When we hit the pitching sucks. When the pitching is on we don’t hit.

      I know, it wont fit on a fucking tshirt.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:40 pm

        in small print

  21. unca_chuck said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    Just saw the replay. Cueto tried to bunt for a hit in the 6th? WT bloody F?

    • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:23 pm

      He might have been safe, but the Giants couldn’t challenge it, having wasted a challenge earlier.

  22. unca_chuck said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:25 pm

    Fuck the challenge, why is he pitcher bunting?

    • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:33 pm

      That stuff looks cute when he’s winning.

  23. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:26 pm

    Bochy is at his best when he manages in the post-season. He needs to start looking at every game as “the post-season”. They just have to get there, and winning it all is real. But dude needs to start managing like every game is big, or they might not even get there. Maybe he already is, who knows. Just doesn’t look that way. Peavy said last weekend he thought Bruce would be managing more like that from now on… hmmm…. Of course, it’s still ALL on the players, they must perform. If everyone does their job, they’ll be fine. Not really doing their jobs at the moment….

    • Carstie Clausen said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:30 pm

      Had Bochy simply thanked Cueto for an excellent performance through six and for giving up nothing more than those two singleshots in the 7th and THEN gone to the pen to start the 8th (preferably laying down the Law followed by Casilla in the 9th) we might be celebrating a Giants victory right now.

      • Lurker John said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:34 pm

        I think everyone here was expecting it to go that way.

  24. blade3colorado said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:27 pm

    Carlos Gonzalez goes deep twice as Rockies are now an MLB best 14-5 since All-Star Break.

    • willedav said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:32 pm

      top 4 in LU scored 8 and drove in 10 I think. Best news of the night they lit up the Dodgers call up kid.

  25. Carstie Clausen said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:27 pm

    Way i see it is that there are two possibilities: Either Bochy is suffering from an advanced case of dementia praecox or there is some big Vegas money involved ~ like that fat toad who operates outta the Sands and has his fingers dipped into half the prostiticians in sight as well as playing patty-patty with Beijing in his Macao casino operations. The two possibilities are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

    • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 9:24 pm

      No offense, but, you’re joking, right?

  26. Lurker John said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:33 pm

    Rox are only 7 games back with L.A. and S.F. rapidly going in the wrong direction. Head-to-head games with that club are going to be huge. It feels to me like the Giants are teetering on the brink of collapse. I’ve no idea how they are still in first place.

  27. Bozo said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:33 pm

    No one is mentioning Romo?

    • gianthead said, on August 3, 2016 at 9:17 pm

      I threw a Friend Bomb Romo’s way…he may need toast as well as Javier…

  28. pawliekokonuts said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:38 pm

    What a fecking clusterfeck. Nunie. Eat me raw. Romo too. And Kontos. The whole gang. What a dreadful trip. FORFEIT. Stay home!

  29. blade3colorado said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:43 pm

    Dodgers ace Kershaw was moved to the 60-day disabled list earlier in the day, and right-hander Louis Coleman (shoulder fatigue) and left-hander Adam Liberatore were also placed on the DL.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:48 pm

      won’t matter if the Giants don’t right their own ship

      • blade3colorado said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:49 pm

        Dat be true Satchmo.

    • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 9:28 pm

      Liberatore, too? That’s huge.

  30. blade3colorado said, on August 3, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    This is how long it has been since the Rockies were relevant in August – six years. For the first time in six years, the Rockies have a winning baseball team in August, 54-53. Wow! The only problem is that they are barely above .500 at home and they have 2 contenders coming into town after the Dodgers. Not certain how that will turn out, but take this for what it’s worth – they have clearly outplayed the Bums the last 2 nights.

  31. snarkk said, on August 3, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    This is looking like a max 2 win roadie…

  32. wilcojoe said, on August 3, 2016 at 9:17 pm

    Other than Atl, SD, and Ari, the rest of this seasons schedule is no joke. If you haven’t taken a look, do yourself a favor and don’t.

  33. gianthead said, on August 3, 2016 at 9:22 pm

    Noonan is looking a lot like Leake and not stepping up in the spotlight. Is Moore going tomorrow???? Let’s see how he performs.

    But some guys melt under the pressure as Leake did last year and now I a. Would during about Nunez. That was absolutely atrocious. But what is unforgivable as the team has been going since the all-star break and they got way lucky to have the reversal on the safe call in the bottom of the 8th that made the second out as runners advanced. With two runners on in scoring position and the tying run at second, there is absolutely no justification having Cueto pitch there…just basic managing. If your pen blows it there then Fuck your pen, but you got to make the move to the pen.

    • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 9:30 pm

      All of that is well said.

    • snarkk said, on August 3, 2016 at 9:31 pm

      You make that move, unless you don’t trust your Pen…

  34. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on August 3, 2016 at 10:05 pm

    Well, if it’s true that Bruce doesn’t trust his relievers (which of course we’ll never know), then that’s on management for not giving him what he thinks he needs. I said of the 3 recent moves that I thought management did its job, and now it was up to Bruce to manage well and especially up to the players, old or new, to do their jobs. Maybe its arguable that management didn’t really do its job if it didn’t get the right people, but I don’t think so, I think those 3 moves *seemed* pretty solid. From here on, it all comes down to what happens on the field between the lines. We all keep thinking this is just a dip, a correction. Might take a few games for the “new” team to find its footing together. At any rate, yeah, it’s flippin’ amazing this team is still in 1st. Still time to put it together. How odd to think we might have to be watching the Rox rather than the Dogs sneaking up on us….

  35. zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 10:49 pm

    Wow- what an HR swing from Nelson Cruz on the highlights tonight. The feet don’t move; the power is generated from hip movement.

  36. Macdog said, on August 3, 2016 at 10:52 pm

    It started as a pleasant enough night: Ideal weather, no humidity at all, nice breeze. There was even that rare sighting — a first-inning lead by the Giants. And a couple more runs.soon after. But then came a Pagan DP that squandered another scoring chance, and that was the first sign — 4 runs that should’ve been more against an absolute chump pitcher. And then it happened: The offense disappeared, as if thrown off the Walt Whitman Bridge to the bottom of the Delaware River, never to be seen again. Still, Johnny C was rolling along and it looked like would be 4 enough — until, of course, those two bombs in the 7th.

    And now we get to Bochy, because when a pitcher well over 100 pitches walks a .200 hitter with the top of the order coming up isn’t enough indication that Cueto may be done . . . let’s just say I’m still shimmying and shaking my head over that one. At that point, it wasn’t a matter of it but when and how. And what a how it was, Kontos konking out as usual and our wondrous new 3B handling another grounder like a greasy cheesesteak. My saving grace in the late innings was getting an occasional whiff of the weed being enjoyed by the guys in back of us.

    • Macdog said, on August 3, 2016 at 10:59 pm

      ‘wasn’t a matter of if…’

    • zumiee said, on August 3, 2016 at 11:05 pm

      Awesome post, Mac.

      • Macdog said, on August 3, 2016 at 11:37 pm

        I do seem to recall the Giants actually getting a runner in scoring position during one of the extra innings, but this could have been my imagination running wild from the strange smell wafting from behind.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 4, 2016 at 5:57 am

      Great post and the “visuals” are spot on, e.g., “greasy cheesesteak.”


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