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Not Making It So? What?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 28, 2016

When I heard The Great Zumiee was going to a BRAVES game I thought, “Jeez this isn’t even really fair to the Braves.” It was like a fastball right down the middle to Barry from Mulholland or Smoltz or Maddux or Park or Shilling (yes I worked a rather easy trivia question in there).

And then I saw that ragtag line up we were trotting out. But it still didn’t matter. Cause it’s the Braves. Going against The Great Zumiee.

He’d never a lost a game….

And as the boredom of that game unfolded I started feeling bad for Zumiee. All I had to do was change the channel or go find something else to do. But he was stuck there having to watch whatever that was.

The POTD says it all. I’m not a gif finding person. Maybe one or some of you or even the Gif Lord himself could find one that appropriately describes what it was like for Zumiee to have to sit through last night’s nonsense……

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  1. Flavor said, on August 28, 2016 at 8:09 am

    i’m assuming there was a lot of this last night:

    • willedav said, on August 28, 2016 at 8:48 am

      Wonder how much the dozen phone obsessed babes paid to get in the yard so they could do this.
      Just about everything wrong with this pic.

  2. willedav said, on August 28, 2016 at 8:17 am

    According to J Shea, Parker was in the yard last night and took BP but didn’t suit up, Giants have until 2 PM today to put him on the roster or send him back to Sac.
    If they option Suarez back to Sac, they could make this happen. Makes you wonder why on Gorkys, except as back up CF. Nice throw last night but that was the C he gunned down.

    Posey to C Bum today, Belt probably back in LU.
    Pence supposed to be ready to go Tuesday after off day tmw.
    And, um, Cain scheduled to pitch Friday at Cubs if he feels OK. Started last night in Fresno: 5 innings 6 runs 4 earned 10 hits 1 HR struck out 4 threw 105 pitches.

  3. Flavor said, on August 28, 2016 at 8:29 am

    anyone hear anything about what Joe Nathan is doing in the minors? Asking for a friend….

  4. dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 28, 2016 at 8:34 am

    • Flavor said, on August 28, 2016 at 8:38 am

      yeah, I had trouble getting them to post too lulz

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 28, 2016 at 8:47 am

        It’s always more difficult when using the tablet for some reason.

  5. Macdog said, on August 28, 2016 at 8:46 am

    Nathan in Double-A Richmond: 4 IP, 2 H, 0 R 0 ER, 3 K, 1 BB.

    • willedav said, on August 28, 2016 at 8:56 am

      wow 4 innings/great line, impressive. wonder why they would do that…if he threw that many pitches when would he be available? Guess Richmond would be closer to Chicago too, where they go for 4 starting Thursday.

  6. blade3colorado said, on August 28, 2016 at 10:13 am

    You know things aren’t going good when you glance at the Flap and there are only 52 posts total. Worse, one of your top hitters is the pitcher call up (Saurez). In fact, Crawford, who homered and doubled, and Denard Span, who singled and doubled, were surrounded by mediocrity.

    I’m also beginning to wonder if we traded the wrong “home grown” player. Joe Panik, with another “ofer” 4. He was in the third spot of the LU and had two at-bats where he left runners in scoring position. Meh.

  7. willedav said, on August 28, 2016 at 10:35 am

    I had Nunez #s wrong last night as a Giant but they are still ugly—20 for 91 .220/.290/.374 .664OPS 77OPS+.
    That pus him down with Gillaspie and Brown, and worse than any other reg.
    guy should be better than this and gets pretty reg pt. Like to see him break loose before call ups like Specs show up.

  8. Flavor said, on August 28, 2016 at 10:46 am

    Law just hit the DL with an elbow prob

  9. Macdog said, on August 28, 2016 at 10:50 am

    This is not good news: Derek Law going on DL with right elbow strain.

  10. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 11:57 am

    The intransigence of Bochy to not play any small ball is infuriating to me. This popgun lineup isn’t going to hit the 3-run dinger anytime soon. The Conga line ain’t forming lately. Anytime somebody gets on 2nd base with no outs, he should be pushed to 3rd by any means possible. The starters have been good lately. Get an early run or two, and the odds favor a win. Callers to the talk shows, including Lurie mention this constantly, and most are knowledgeable fans. The answer to why won’t Bochy do this? Uh, that’s just the way Bochy rolls. To me, a HOF manager recognizes a LU’s weakness and rolls the way he needs to, not hopes to, score runs and win the damn game…

    • gianthead said, on August 28, 2016 at 12:27 pm

      The old dog is set in his ways…..

  11. Macdog said, on August 28, 2016 at 12:24 pm

    A.J. Ellis 2-run double in Phils debut to give Philly 3-1 lead over Mets.

  12. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 12:24 pm

    Re: the photo starting this thread.
    Those girls are a typical reason that these games are always “sold out”. Being there, they’re helping pay Posey’s enormous salary, and keeping this organization competitive. That’s a good thing. We had decades of 5000 die hards at the Stick freezing their asses off, and what we got with that was decades of crap teams, with an occasional whiff of playoffs. So, if these cute chicks want to go to the game just to hang with their BFFs, and take selfies, I’m more than fine with it…

    • gianthead said, on August 28, 2016 at 12:30 pm

      I take it these chicks were at a Douchebags game in AZ. They look AZ or AZ State sorority girls…

  13. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 12:43 pm

    Speaking of Dbacks, they are absolute merde right now. Front office and on the field. If the Giants don’t sweep their upcoming series with them, then it will be ridiculous…

  14. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    Parker added to roster with Law going onto DL. Parker up here about a month late, IMO. Law thing sounds ominous, hope its not a TJ thing. Bochy says possibly another Pen move right before the game. Sounds to me like a Gorkys trip to Sac in exchange for an arm replacing law…

  15. unca_chuck said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    Gorgeous day. Bring it homebummie

  16. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    This Blair guy for the Braves is gawdawful. The league is beating this dude like a drum. He was banished to the minors, was so-so there, now back up. Gyros should friggin’ win this game going away. Should…

  17. unca_chuck said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:01 pm

    Surprised but glad to see Parke.r

  18. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    Bochy said Cain “looked OK” last night in his “rehab” start in Fresno. OK means he gave up 10 hits in 5 frames, 4 allowed with 2 earned. Sounds like the usual crapfest 5 innings from Cain. On Friday night, Blach continued a fine second half with Sac — he pitched 7 full frames, 3 hits, 9 Ks, no runs allowed against the same Fresno team. Why they would not pitch Blach as #5 over Cain at this point is beyond me…

  19. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    Productive AB from Parker.
    Who could have predicted that Gorkys wasn’t the answer in rightfield? Nobody could have predicted that.

    • snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:40 pm

      If that’s Blanco, he probably Ks looking, after taking a first pitch called strike while faking a bunt…

      • zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:55 pm

        Like just about everyone else I’m mystified why we didn’t get Parker sooner.

    • willedav said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:54 pm

      I read that Williamson hit another HR for Sac last night If he’s healthy, no reason for Gorkys to be up, ever.

  20. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    Belt, Panik, alright. Let’s pound this guy…

  21. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    About yesterday, I’ll say that any time at the ballyard is always a cool thing, regardless of score.
    And it was a nice chance to get out of the Central Valley heat, and take in the cool, crisp coastal air. I try to remember to appreciate that I’m blessed to be healthy enough to take that beautiful Bay-walk from the BART station to the ballpark, and walk back after the game. I talked a lot of baseball with folks in the group I was with, and other topics as well, history, politics, movies, etc. It was a fun time. The game could have been better. But I appreciate that Crawford continues to have a stellar season, and a few other guys performed well, too. The scrubini lineup just couldn’t match up to Folty’s “A game.” Do other teams have as much trouble with the curveball as the Giants? Doesn’t seem like it to me, but it’s probably not sabermetrically true.
    There was a funny moment before the game when Renel was announcing the Giants batting order. The fans started cheering as they always do, but when it got to Gillaspie playing firstbase and batting fifth, the crowd kind of went “oof” and the crowd noise dwindled as the rest of the lineup was announced, and had fizzled out completely by the end. A kind of foreshadowing.

    • snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:53 pm

      Even those ASU chicks in the stands could tell that lineup was DOA…

  22. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    OK, Span doubles to start off, and Pagan doesn’t get him over. As usual, no bunt attempt, no drag bunt, hits direct to the pitcher. And, with Posey on deck. Play to get the damn run in…

    • zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:59 pm

      That’s a good point. Time after time during the last month, lead-off doubles have died with no run scoring. It’s time for Bochy to give up the “big inning” mentality and play for single runs. And those single runs add up over the course of the game. He needs to adjust to what his players are actually capable of, at this point.

      • snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:04 pm

        Crawford followed Posey getting hit with a fly out, that would have probably scored a fast Span, had he been pushed by Pagan over to third. 3-1, instead of 2-1. That gives Bum some wiggle room if one of these Braves smokes a solo dinger, which several are capable of. It’s total bullshit managing, and I’m not the only one tired of it, based on sportstalk I hear…

  23. willedav said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    Blade with reverse hex on Panik, as he said works every time on Belt.

  24. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 1:56 pm

    Another leadoff double wasted !…

  25. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    I would love Parker to mash one today, preferably into the Cove…

  26. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    Parker singles, Panik with the follow dinger. Get a guy in the stretch, things happen. Nice! …

  27. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:11 pm

    Gee, Giants, thanks for saving the varsity lineup for the Sunday game. đŸ™‚

    • snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:14 pm

      Bochy figured you were the Ace in the Hole…

  28. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:16 pm

    This is good. Span getting into some dinger action. Too bad Nunie made the bad baserunning choice. Like they should, the Giants are pounding this guy like the rest of the league…

    • willedav said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:18 pm

      Yeah. No small ball today.
      Greinke and Cueto Tuesday, see what happens.

    • willedav said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:20 pm

      but I do agree with you. Inability to move runners over, even with productive outs, maddening and not good baseball.

      • willedav said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:21 pm

        That’s the thing I loved so much about Scutaro. Even as a RH, 2 strikes, he could do that.

      • snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:23 pm

        He was automatic almost at moving the runner at 2nd over or get a hit — he could inside out that swing and push the grounder to the right side…

  29. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    Cubs are struggling against the Dodgers again. The Cubs are kind of over-rated.

  30. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:30 pm

    The give-away item at last night’s game was kind of fun and cute. It was a baseball shaped item that opens up to reveal the inside halves are speakers. And there’s a little cord to attach to electronic devices. It was billed as “Sergio Romo speakers.” I always appreciate something new and original in the give-away items.

  31. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:33 pm

    The Dodgers’ starting pitcher Brock Stewart has been hit hard by other teams this season.

  32. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:37 pm

    Second game in a row that the Dodgers didn’t start Reddick.

  33. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    I know Belt Ks a lot, but up 5-1, why not hit and run there with Craw on first…

  34. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    Man, Freeman is strong.

    • zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:48 pm

      And the HR bug vs. the Giants continues….

  35. djloo27 said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:49 pm

    Amazing play by Nunie!

  36. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:49 pm

    The Giants’ D has really picked up lately. Nunez is part of that.

  37. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    Giants need to add on…

  38. Macdog said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    That was a really good play by Panik, and then Nunez topped it with his play.

  39. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 2:56 pm

    Not surprising, but MLB reports LA has put Puig on waivers. We’ll see if there are any takers. I suspect LA will pull him back, then they won’t call him up, they’ll let the minor league season end, then him sit him so he doesn’t get hurt, and since he’s poison in the LA clubhouse in a stretch run. He’s mashed in the minors, so somebody will take a flyer on him in an offseason trade…

  40. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    Nice game by Bum, he wasn’t that sharp — really only made that one mistake to Freeman. IMO he’s arm weary. Could use a skipped start, he’s 2nd or 3rd in NL in IP. Now, let’s add on so this Pen has more cushion…

  41. Lurker John said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:29 pm

    How the hell does a 5′ 6″ 165 pound guy have a slash line like this:

    .355 BA .415 OBP .981 OPS 21 HR 87 RBI AND 92 runs scored.

    And he’s going to reach 200 hits barring some kind of disaster. He has 182 right now. Altuve is amazing but you really hear about him from the national schmucks because he plays in Houston, not one of ESPN’s approved franchises.

    Those numbers are just sick.

    Trumbo hit HR #40 today, the ridiculous Arenado hit his 35th. ML HR leaders Trumbo (40) Encarnacion (36) another guy you rarely hear about., then Bryant and Arenado, each with 35. RBI leaders, Arenado (111), Encarnacion (106), Pujols (101?), Ortiz (100).

    Remind me why Ortiz is retiring? Is he tired of having so much fun playing baseball?

    • zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:31 pm

      He said he has a lot of foot pain, and he’s ready to move into the next phase of his life.

      • Lurker John said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:34 pm

        I’d hate to see his numbers if his feet didn’t hurt. First ballot HoFer.

  42. Lurker John said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:31 pm

    Clutch knock by Parker.

  43. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:32 pm

    Parker with a triple and single. Yeah, we couldn’t have used him in the last few weeks.

  44. Macdog said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    That’s great to see from Parker.

  45. djloo27 said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    Gotta retaliate for that – helps bring the team a little closer…

  46. Macdog said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:43 pm

    Maybe the Braves should try a no triples defense.

  47. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:50 pm

    Flemm going crazy that Gorkys did not score from second on that Crawford hit. 2 outs, you go on contact. Apparently he got the stop sign? Anybody see that? Is Kelly drinking beers over there in the coaches box? WTF?…

    • Flavor said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:59 pm

      ah, you and I heard the same thing

  48. Lurker John said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    Kuip said he did it so as to not pile on the Braves.

    • Lurker John said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:54 pm

      By that logic, Belt should’ve intentionally struck out because the Giants don’t want to hurt the Brave’s feelings.

      • zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:57 pm

        Yeah, Kuip’s blowing smoke on that. Teams don’t stop trying to score. Baseball is different than football and even basketball in that regard.

    • snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:56 pm

      Kuiper must be on drugs then. That goes against everything players are supposed to do at every level. If statement has any truth whatsoever by Kuiper, I am dumbfounded by it…

  49. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    Yeah, zum.
    Parker with single, triple, 3 RBIs, knocked in one of ’em with the productive out. Meanwhile he’s in Sac, Blanco is going about five for 35 post-Break, with a secretly bum shoulder. Seriously. Parker could easily have helped win a couple of those close games that they lost. I just do not get that. It blows…

  50. djloo27 said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    K & K said he shoulda scored easily. No mention of a stop sign.
    I don’t think he was serious with the “piling on” comment. He said Craw wouldn’t be happy about losing the RBI…

    • snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:59 pm

      I’d really like to know what the hell happened there. Flemiming rarely goes incredulous — he was speechless as to why Hernandez did not score. If that was truly a Kelly stop sign, the beat writers need to ask about it specifically. Crawford should be pissed he didn’t get an RBI…

    • Lurker John said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:00 pm

      Then Kruk followed up with, “He (Hernandez) gets it.” You don’t stop playing baseball because you’re worried about hurting the other team’s feelings. The Little Leaguers finished up this morning. This is MLB. Somebody fucked up, Gorkys or Kelly.

  51. Flavor said, on August 28, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    I was listening on the radio and Flem was incredulous that Gorkey’s didn’t score and then it *sounded* like he watched a replay because he said “Oh, it looks like he got the stop sign.”

    • snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:01 pm

      Yep, that’s what I heard. WTF? That cannot be real. The beat writers should ask Bochy directly WTF was going on there. Flemm sounded like that was a gimme score, he friggin couldn’t believe it…

  52. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:00 pm

    Trevor Cahill doing what he can to personally help the Dodgers win today.

  53. Flavor said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:00 pm

    I see you guys were just recently discussing this above. Snarkk and I heard the same thing, Flem couldn’t believe it. But as I said, after about 30 seconds of going off on Gorkey’s he said “it looks like he got the stop sign.” I took that to mean Flem saw a replay that showed it but can’t confirm that.

  54. Lurker John said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    WTF Zobrist.

  55. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    Well, they certainly added on.
    But, if Kelly intentionally gave Gorkys, a fast runner, a stop sign on a gimme score to home, because it would be “pouring it on”, that is just stunning to me. If true, I’ve never seen or heard of such a thing in watching MLB for over 45 years…

  56. Lurker John said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    If Kelly did stop him, that should be the last straw for the guy. Meanwhile, the fucking Cubs just handed the Dodgers the game, if they can’t come back in the ninth.

  57. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:08 pm

    Cubs completely gave the Dodgers a run, without a hit. Bonehead plays all over the place.

  58. Lurker John said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    Check that, the play was on Baez, not Zobrist, who was 40 feet off the bag playing the shift for AG. What a fucking boneheaded play.

  59. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:13 pm

    At this point, I’d let Pence rest his leg for a few more games. Parker is hitting the ball, Pence isn’t…

  60. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:17 pm

    Well, the Cubs got a reality check this weekend, after beating up on tomato can teams. This Cubs team is far from a juggernaut. Yes, the Cubs didn’t have their two best starting pitchers in this series, but the Dodgers weren’t exactly throwing Koufax and Drysdale out there, either.

    • Lurker John said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:22 pm

      They look pretty good to me and It’s not like the Dodgers suck. The Cubs lead the Majors in team pitching and are third in team batting. They’re doing something right.

      It’s their 19th place fielding that bit them today, with an inexcusable brain fart by their backup third baseman.

      • zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:25 pm

        All true, but I think in a playoff series, they’re vulnerable against good pitching. Two hackers in the outfield, Fowler and Heyward, could really disappear in a short series. And Trevor Cahill brought into a tight game in the 8th inning. What’s up with that? That guy’s a stiff.

      • Lurker John said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:31 pm

        Any team is vulnerable to good pitching. The Giants have proven that 3 times. It will be interesting to see how they (Cubs) fare in the post season when things really clamp down. The Giants have proven they have the mettle to thrive in that tense atmosphere, the Cubs have not. It really is a whole new season in the playoffs. Everything is magnified.

        If the Giants can find a way into the show, maybe they can do their thing again.

      • zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 4:41 pm

  61. willedav said, on August 28, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    giants aren’t going to hit like this, but D was very good and the 4 SPs have been pretty good lately, Bum actually being the shakiest.
    I think their pitching and defense will be calling cards, hopefully better than Dodgers at least.
    Stat I remember seeing is how rarely team with best record wins it all.
    In NL it was Cards last year. Love to see it happen to Cubs this year. Everyone starts playoffs 0-0.

    Stix would have loved this one—hope he’s OK.

  62. Flavor said, on August 28, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    good to see Clint again. And I agree with you about the Cubs. If they had been to the post season already once I’d worry more about them. But you can’t take that collection of players and just say “yeah, they’ll do the same thing in the post season.” It doesn’t work that way. Maddon is the main thing they have going for them.

  63. djloo27 said, on August 28, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    Pretty good day for us in the WC race…

    • willedav said, on August 28, 2016 at 6:14 pm

      everyone in NL west won, A’s won to take 2 of 3 (I think) from STL. Even the Angels won taking 2 of 3 in Detroit according to ESPN guy doing the game I hope both teams lose.

  64. zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 6:30 pm

    Yeah, the division title would be nice, but they definitely need to at least scratch and claw their way to a Wild Card spot.
    On to Arizona, and Goldilocks and gang.

  65. James said, on August 28, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    2 games out . . . Flemming chose the poor MadBum gets no run support angle to lament that the gap wouldn’t exist if only the Giants had scored a few key runs for him during the worst of the skid. The truth is, those mini-tragedies have been balanced out by a few starts where Bum “didn’t do his part.” There are any number of ways to play the game: if only Belt had stayed consistent, if only Pence and Panik had picked up for Belt, etc. the team would have a few more Ws right now.

    To my mind the one true, season long structural deficiency you can point to is the Cain/Peavy starts. If those starts had produced replacement level numbers, we’d be up on LA by a game or two, even with the terrible slump.

  66. snarkk said, on August 28, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    Law’s elbow not messed up other than scar tissue from previous surgery. No ligament damage; good news…

  67. Flavor said, on August 28, 2016 at 8:27 pm

    RIP Dan Mulvaney. I’ll never forget you, dude. Don’t bother googling him, I doubt anything shows up. Dan was the shit. That is all.

    • zumiee said, on August 28, 2016 at 9:10 pm

      So sorry, BF. It’s tough losing people. Always a hard thing.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 28, 2016 at 9:48 pm

      Sorry for your loss, Craig.


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