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Less Zeros Please

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 8, 2016

Pffffttttt…. If not for a lone Coner Gillaspie swing, we’d be working on 18 straight zeros. I guess that would have been impossible since we don’t play the Cubs if we don’t score a run in New York. But even for an offense that showered us with impotency all season, this is a little surprising. KNBR gives away 5K if a Giant hits a grand slam in, I think, the 5th inning. They should offer up 50 million for that to happen. 5K should be the payout for an extra base hit….

Speaking of Gillaspie, he’s our third baseman for the rest of the season. Nunie couldn’t beat Posey in a sprint right now. I’m actually a little surprised that Bochy used him in a PH role last night. He doesn’t play for 2 weeks, he’s cold on the bench all night and you send him up there to face Chapman? If he had crumpled to the ground running to first would it have been a surprise? I suppose when you’re travel 2mph there’s little chance for a crumple.

Even with this almost unreal inability to score runs, tonight isn’t a must win game. It’s awfully close to a “pretty please, with sugar on top, win the fucking game” game but with Bum going in 3 and then another home game with Matty Moore, tonight isn’t mandatory. Nobody needs to tell these guys how to come back from a 2-0 deficit anyway…..

So let’s see them loosen up a bit tonight and have some fun. Contrary to what those 17 zeros suggest, this team can score runs. Just go out and do it.

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  1. mrsprtdude said, on October 8, 2016 at 7:24 am

    Amen Craig. I was hoping the bats were alive again after watching the dodger series. Nope.
    Pence is the key. Even Vin Scully said he had never seen him in all his years swinging so wildly….

  2. willedav said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:17 am

    Cubs did have best pitching in entire league. Combine that with all the power, good enough combo last night.

    Missing Nunez does hurt, but if you look at what he did for Giants (not the Twins), he was just about dead equal to Gillaspie, and Pagan right around 100 OPS+. Nothing wrong with having him PH (have a better option?) he gave good AB. If he got on they’d run for him.

    I’m sure tonight’s LU looks more like what we saw last couple weeks, with Span leading off and Panik back in there 7 spot. Good move to give other guys some ABs, which they might need off the bench.

    • gianthead said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:53 am

      Williedav, if Nunez hits one to right he will probably be thrown out….not that we have of better options on the 40-man pre-Sept roster for right-handed bats…

  3. dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:19 am

    Tough loss last night with Cueto having pitched so well. He’s a grinder. I’m a bit surprised to see the sudden confidence in Moore. Until the last two series of the season, the Giants struggled to put together 3 game win streaks. I see tonight as a must win.

    • Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:39 am

      Dude, I’ve been a Matty Moore backer since Day 1. Trading Duffy for him was the steal of the year.

      • gianthead said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:50 am

        I totally agree. When we go Bum-Cueto-Moore-Smard-Blach through the NL next year, we will be flipping over backwards about that rotation over a whole season…then we spend all that dough we have coming on a closer, other bullpen needs amd a frickin power hitter in left…

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:55 am

        I thought you glossed him little game Matty at one time thinking he would shrink from expectations. Regardless, I was a big Duffy fan and I agree that the deal was a good move. Especially for next year. This made me go look at Duffy’s stats. He finished decent enough in Tampa but with Arroyo coming they were going to do something anyway..

      • Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 11:08 am

        i did notice that he came up ant-small in that Dodger game but his body of work since he got here has been impossible to deny. He was a fantastic pick up for now and for the long haul. People that trip on losing Duffy are forgetting how much more valuable a stud lefty starter is than a guy who plays third base who does everything “pretty well” but nothing outstandingly well

  4. willedav said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:40 am

    Speaking of zeroes tho, bum put 9 of them on the Mets and Cueto 7 of his own with only 2 hits allowed before the fateful 8th.
    Even if Smardz can’t come through tonight, you’d still have Bum Moore Cueto.
    Interesting stat line—last 6 vs. Cubs SF has been outscored 13-11, total in losing 4 of them. Giants are right with em.

  5. gianthead said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:46 am

    We faced premier pitching forntwo games and we have had premiere pitching. One bloody bad mistake from Cueto catching too much plate woth scrubs coming up behind in the order. They should have not given Baez much there.

    I am shocked after seeing Nunez run that he is even on the roster. Are you allowed a replacement player for injury during a series???

  6. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 8, 2016 at 9:20 am

    Critical at-bat for Pence there at the end. I love Pence at the Fence, but he just seemed to completely guess wrong that whole at-bat. In a short series like this, they really will need the timely hit in a spot like that to move on. Cueto, man, what a stud. One mistake. Smarge must come up large….

  7. alleykat69 said, on October 8, 2016 at 11:14 am

    Simple in baseball really,
    We score we win
    We don’t score we lose
    As thrilling a game is was to knock off the Mets with Conor’s ball breaking HR,the Cub game was just the opposite in frustration,however I really like how the Giants matchup against this team and they’ve proven it all year against them playing them tough and a lot of 1 run game deciders so the battle will continue with some exciting ball still to be played..

  8. djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 11:40 am

    I think Duffy will be a decent major leaguer, but I don’t regret losing him. He has no upper body strength. Reminds me of a guy they had in the early 90’s named Mike Kingery. I’m also suspicious of his sudden flashes of power last year when the guy admittedly hadn’t homered since Little League.

    And Pence really needs to get it together in a hurry. I posted last night that he seems to never get a late inning clutch hit. He looks lost all over the field now. He surrounds fly balls, too…

  9. djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 11:42 am

    And I thought the TV coverage was God-awful as well. Like the director was on ludes…

  10. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 11:50 am

    Cubs are a better squad than the Giants. That’s plain. Their LU kills our lineup. But, superior pitching evens that up. Giants are now onto their secondary quality starters, not superior. Don’t know how the wind will go tonight, but I’m hoping it’s blowing in, because SF can’t out-homer the Cubs…

  11. alleykat69 said, on October 8, 2016 at 12:01 pm

    Yeah I’m hoping the winds blowing in as well.With Snarkabomb tendencies to give up the jack the wind blowin end could be his only friend..
    Really thought Moore should of started this game with Shark pitching at home where he’s more effective..

    • djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      Wind 4 MPH blowing out according to Rotowire…

      • snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 1:07 pm

        Not good…

  12. Bozo said, on October 8, 2016 at 1:56 pm

    Bring it.

    • Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 2:43 pm

      hey how are you holding up? Is it worse than you thought it was going be?

      • Bozo said, on October 8, 2016 at 3:29 pm

        Right now it’s just raining and a bit windy, nothing like the storm the Giants are going to bring to the Cubs.

      • djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 3:34 pm

      • Bozo said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:30 pm

        Do it for Stix.

  13. djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    The Giants can’t out-homer the Cubs over a season but why not for a game or 3?

    Denard Span (L)
    Brandon Belt (L)
    Buster Posey (R)
    Hunter Pence (R)
    Brandon Crawford (L)
    Angel Pagan (S)
    Conor Gillaspie (L)
    Joe Panik (L)
    Jeff Samardzija (R)

  14. pawliekokonuts said, on October 8, 2016 at 3:54 pm

    Gonna watch with Mike & Rhonda Cabrinha and Sam Piraino, local Giants dudes. We’ll have fun. The Giants should too.

  15. djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    We’re gonna stomp the piss out of ’em!

  16. djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    Can someone explain the Jaguar commercial with the severely handicapped man in the wheelchair?
    I am completely baffled…

  17. Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:28 pm

    Ball game?

  18. zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:39 pm

    I’m a nervous wreck during Giants playoff games. I can’t say that they are ever really enjoyable to watch, unless it’s a blow-out (which have been rare over the years.) Re-watching a recording of a victory is much more fun.

    • Lurker John said, on October 8, 2016 at 7:08 pm

      Zum, I know exactly what you’re talking about.

  19. zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    Big Game Smardj he’s not looking like.

    • zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:42 pm

      Heyward, seriously?

  20. djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:44 pm

    Smdja will get yanked if it get gets to 3-0…

  21. gianthead said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:45 pm

    This was why I did not want Smardjaramjam starting…

    • zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:47 pm

      Yeah, Bochy’s non-golden touch in the second half of the season coming back to bite yet again.

    • John Gibbons said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:49 pm

      Thought the same .

  22. zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:48 pm

    How about Smardj not even bothering to back up homeplate. His head is out of it.

    • djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:50 pm

      He’s done for the night even if he survives the inning…

  23. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:49 pm

    Flap was pretty much against Smardj at Wrigley, and Bochy did not listen…

  24. eddacker said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    Do you think. Bochy told Jeff I will give you a game. Do well or it is your career ?

  25. zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    You can’t let guys like Fowler and Heyward beat you in a series like this. You have to make hackers like that go 2 for 16, or something like that.

  26. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:51 pm

    Get him the F out of there…

  27. djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:51 pm

    Pence should make that catch…

  28. wilcojoe said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:52 pm

    Pence has gone from the Reverend to snake oil sailsman.

    • snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:58 pm

      He’s probably still not 100% back from that hammy…

  29. djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:56 pm

    Smdj sucked but wasn’t exactly shelled. The hardest shots they hit were foul balls…

  30. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    Well, what a story it would be to come back from 4 runs down. Unlikely as hell with this lineup. Need at least one HR, maybe two, to come back…

  31. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    I would take Samardz out now. He’s at risk of giving up dingers, IMO. Time for Pen to have all hands on deck — in itself, scary…

  32. Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    A fucking run!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!!

  33. wilcojoe said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    That’s better!

  34. djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    Here we fuckin’ come!

  35. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    Kuiper — “I can’t remember the last time Gregor Blanco got a hit!”
    LMAO…

  36. Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:02 pm

    Smarge in the paper today said he appreciated Bochy’s confidence and “I won’t let him down..”

    • snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:09 pm

      I think this was another Bochy “confidence” thing that ignored all signs going in the oppo direction that pitching Smnardj at Wrigley was a bad idea. Similar to continuing to bring in Casilla in the 9th against all signs contrary. This is Bochy’s major failing this season…

      • Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:17 pm

        I thought Smarge would be ok today. Wind blowing in, pitching well, last time he was in Wrigley he got dinked and dunked to death. Tonight wasn’t that much different.

  37. zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:25 pm

    A twist in the plot.

  38. wilcojoe said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    Looked like Maddon was a bit ticked that Kendricks couldn’t toughen that out and stay in there.

  39. zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:38 pm

    Kontos having to keep that ’16 bullpen legacy going.

    • zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:40 pm

  40. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    Flemm and Kruk saying that hey, Wood can really hit for a pitcher before he comes up.
    So, Kontos throws him a first pitch cookie that Wood turns on for an HR. How is it that the announcers have a better approach to the guy than Posey and Kontos? Fucking Cubs pitchers are outhitting the Giants position players…

    • zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:43 pm

      Posey positioned himself on the outside corner, but Kontos threw it down the middle.

  41. zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    If the Cubs win this series, and keep doing curtain calls after HRs, I kid you not, that could get me rooting for the Dodgers over them.

    • gianthead said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:47 pm

      Let’s not get crazy now Zumiee…

      • zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:51 pm

        I said it “could.” 🙂

  42. gianthead said, on October 8, 2016 at 6:46 pm

    Nice rope from Bum but the others need to stop watching pitches and start swinging…

  43. Irish Kevin said, on October 8, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    I guess Botch is throwing in the towel, how else do you explain Casilla in the game??

  44. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    Fuck Bochy, with Casilla. Fuck Bochy, in spades.
    This dude is not even in Spring Training next season.
    Did I say Fuck Bochy enough?
    This team is still in this game, 3 down in the 6th. And, he’s dicking around with Casilla again. This is insane…

  45. Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 7:17 pm

    unreal that he’s in this game. That pen is rested as fuck, there is no explanation or reason why to use this guy tonight. I don’t care what the score is, unless he’s completely given up

  46. unca_chuck said, on October 8, 2016 at 7:27 pm

    Boring fucking game.

  47. Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 7:30 pm

    I’m tired of Costas already…

  48. djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 7:39 pm

    I hate how Wrigley looks at night…

  49. djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 7:55 pm

    Sucks

  50. unca_chuck said, on October 8, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    If we’re out I could give a fuck about it. Might as well be the Indians…

  51. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    I thought the Giants had a shot at going 1-1 at Wrigley, and likely the Cueto game. Cueto did his job. This squad just cannot score runs consistently, and has virtually no power. Maybe Bum can get ’em back on track Monday at home, and they can find a way to score 3 or 4 runs for him…

  52. Irish Kevin said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:06 pm

    The Giants have had chances to score. But this year runs are just too hard to get. They will probably have a break out game on Monday and then nothing again, that is the way it has been.

  53. Irish Kevin said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:07 pm

    The Cubs have two closers and the Giants have none. Sad but true

  54. Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:07 pm

    lame. Whatever, come home and win game 3, everyone feels good again.

  55. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    Can they win 3 straight? Sure. Will they? Unfreekinlikely…

    • djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:18 pm

      • zumiee said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:26 pm

        That is……something.

  56. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:21 pm

    It may not matter much, but Bochy missed by a foot or two being called out again for Casilla mad-love. That would-be home run didn’t miss being out by much. Casilla should not even be on the roster. I don’t freekin’ get this Casilla love by Bochy. The guy comes in and just gets hammered, yet, here he is — Bochy waiving him in to a playoff game still in doubt. I don’t want to see this dude on the mound any more, under any conditions. Kruk keeps saying he’s got some of the best “stuff” in the Pen. Horseshit– great stuff doesn’t get clobbered consistently — unless the guy throwing it has cotton between his ears and his dauber down at his ankles…

  57. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:25 pm

    Trying to remember how I was feeling after game 2 of NLDS in 2012, needing to go to Cincy to win 3 in a row. I think I felt like it was a lost cause, mostly because the Reds, if I remember correctly, blew out the Giants in game 2, and the team just looked *done*. Then the Reverend Underpants revved ’em all up and they never looked back. Bum, Moore, and Cueto are going to need to throw near-shutouts to win this series. As Tom said, possible, but not likely. But wouldn’t that be sweet. And, I’m still feeling that Bochy should retire at the end of this season, win or lose.

    • snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:29 pm

      Yeah, theoretically they can win three in a row. It’s been done.
      I just don’t see this team having the cojones, the bones, to get it done like 2012.
      The big bats, the guys making big coin, are doing nothing at the plate. Can’t rely on Kelby and guys like Gillaspie, or expect them, to get it done offensively. 2 runs in 2 games ain’t going to get it done…

  58. Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:26 pm

    “guys did a good job scoring 2 to get back in it.”– Bochy.
    What a joke that we’ve been conditioned to nod in approval at something like this. Fuck that. Two runs? That’s doing a good job? I need to stop watching Bochy post gamers, it’s not good for my blood pressure

    • snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:31 pm

      Definitely need an offensive re-tool in the off season. Next year, the rotation looks like nails. Need an offense to support it and get 90+ wins. This team is getting old. Need youth and power in the outfield…

      • djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:37 pm

        Yep. See what Panik, Belt and Strickland can bring back.
        Posey goes to first base. Get a ball blocking catcher.
        Give Bum a major league contract. Sign a closer.
        This is a recording…

  59. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:33 pm

    Meanwhile, what is Noonie doing on this roster. The guy can’t run. If he doesn’t hit an HR, he’s useless on the bags. I’d rather have Parker in there, he’s at least healthy, and might run into one. He can run, that’s a plus…

  60. snarkk said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:36 pm

    Yeah, after these pathetic offensive performances, it is not healthy to watch Bochy pressers. Not to get political, but the nonsense factor he provides is near Trumpian…

  61. Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:41 pm

    Maddon sounds about 37 times smarter than Bochy.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:47 pm

      He must be, how else would he keep getting voted best manager in baseball without having never won a ring?

  62. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    After 2002 and that fairly devastating World Series loss, I knew Dusty would not come back. Kent too. It was just time for a change. Speedy Oil kind of change. Kinda feel the same way about Bochy now. I just can’t even imagine he would want to come back, he looks tired and like he’d just rather be fishing. But who knows. We’ll see what happens next week.

  63. Flavor said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:54 pm

    one of the mlb network guys with a bad hair dye job just suggested Bochy bat Posey lead off. How do these guys get these jobs?

    • djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:57 pm

      Alston used to say that about Mays and did it in All Star games…

  64. djloo27 said, on October 8, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    Bochy is signed for 3 more years. Cott’s doesn’t say how much.
    Unless he has real health issues, he ain’t retiring.
    The man is a baseball lifer…

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 8, 2016 at 9:00 pm

      I think he could *retire* from managing. They would definitely keep him on in some role, and that would be great, he’s a Giant institution at this point.

  65. willedav said, on October 8, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    Tremendous comeback by Cal, down 17in 4th Q to tie it up and go OT. As always take the over.
    Cards meanwhile will have to make comeback of their own vs. Wazzu.

  66. Macdog said, on October 8, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    Wasn’t able to post tonight. I guess Blach looked good. snarkk’s 6:39 says it all: Fucking Cubs pitchers are outhitting the Giants position players…

  67. unca_chuck said, on October 8, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    I can’t find the fucking Cal game on my dish. Snodfart is laying down like hurt puppies. At home. To Wash State.

    Posey Lead off? I’d rather bat the pitcher 1. That is utter stupidity. Then again, we did bat Bummie as our PH. In the 6th. There’s some faith in the bench. Not that I really disagree, but Jesus. Buster and Pence are ghosts. Belt is Leading the top 6 with 1 RBI.

    • willedav said, on October 8, 2016 at 11:05 pm

      was on pac 12 net. They scored 20 points in a row to take lead in OT with a FG, then gave up TD to the QB and lost 47-44. Boring they ain’t.
      QB for the battling beavers is grandson of longtime NBA ref Darrell Garretson. Beavs first conference win after 12 consecutive losses. They had 300 yrds on the ground in 3 qtrs. Cal ran ball well too, Watson and Muhammad with TDs.

  68. eddacker said, on October 8, 2016 at 11:46 pm

    Theo E and his doppelgänger Jed and an unholy alliance in San Diego have built quite a team. After quashing the curse in Boston and now set to walk on water in the windy city I think back. Some of the players the Gmen went after that ended up in cubbieville. Chapman, Lester, Zobrist, Russell? and Foster (I am sure there are more). What a difference any one of those would have made in Orange and Black to this series. Foster I consider a special case in that he is not much of an upgrade over span but not having him bat against Jeff is another of baseball’s intangibles. Just like either one of span’s fouls landing fair in the first inning.

    Baseball is a game of inches and we have the coconuts so get ’em tomorrow and hot stove some offense in the off season.

  69. mrsprtdude said, on October 9, 2016 at 1:24 am

    Sigh.. 3 in a row here we come!
    If Cubs win it all does that put Epstein a group of the best GM’s ever??
    I would say yes….


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