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Bomb to Value Ratio

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on January 12, 2017

I’m fine with the Gillaspe signing. You need guys like him hanging around. And 1.4 million is pretty close to the 1.1 million the Giants gave Ishikawa. At least now we know the value the Giants put on hitting epic post season bombs.

Nunie/Gillaspe combo is my kinda approach. It doesn’t have to be an either/or. They are both major league players (although one of them is great and all knowing). My issue with the Giants is when they back up the starters with minor league replacement players…..

“he had a rake….”

lqtm……

djloo27 said, on January 11, 2017 at 8:27 pm (Edit)

Kind of a shame that the brilliant “he had a rake” only hastened his ejection…

 

 

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  1. Flavor said, on January 12, 2017 at 7:31 am

    I’ll kick this thread of with the best picture you will see all day.

  2. willedav said, on January 12, 2017 at 7:49 am

    Thx. Went over there after seeing pics on top of page (Allen, Pops, etc.) and the rest of the pix as you scroll down are great too. Pretty funny one about Berman.

    • Flavor said, on January 12, 2017 at 8:10 am

      I think the Berman pic was from the super70s twitter acct.

      • willedav said, on January 12, 2017 at 8:15 am

        yeah, plus Ralph Garr, mutton chop sideburns duo, etc. Great stuff.
        My hero Connie Hawkins used to have that look when he was with Phoenix Suns (alongside Oaktown’s Paul Silas): Fu mustache down to chin, sideburns all the way down but not quite touching the stache.

      • djloo27 said, on January 12, 2017 at 9:21 am

        Did you read “Foul”, Willie? I loved Hawkins and read it about 100 times in the early ’70’s when it came out in paperback. I still remember word for word Howard Cosell’s classic review of the book which was printed on the back cover of the paperback. You have to read it in Cosell’s voice to fully appreciate:
        “Puts to rout forever the propagated notion that sport is a sacred cow and the only milk it emits is pure”

  3. Flavor said, on January 12, 2017 at 8:21 am

    I’m actually kinda bummed that there are so many new 70’s twitter accounts popping up. super70’s does it best. The rest just kinda muddle it. But that pic of the ’75 NL all stars is rad.

  4. chipower9 said, on January 12, 2017 at 8:22 am

    Only 32 daze until pitchers and catchers report. Play ball!

    ST tix go on sale today to the general public. With other trips I have T-d up this year, I unfortunately will not be making my annual trek to the Valley of the Sun. I do plan on going to opening day to keep my string of those alive.

    • sfsarge said, on January 12, 2017 at 8:26 am

      Hey Chi, you going to opening day too? Awesome brother we’ll have to meet up again!

      • chipower9 said, on January 12, 2017 at 11:31 am

        I am, and if you are going to be there, I will gladly buy you a beverage of choice my brother.

      • sfsarge said, on January 12, 2017 at 11:33 am

        I will be there, and I will be buying. I do believe you bought the last round.

      • chipower9 said, on January 12, 2017 at 1:14 pm

        Either way, looking forward to seeing you my friend. Happy New Year!

  5. willedav said, on January 12, 2017 at 11:13 am

    Yes Loo “Foul” was a classic. First time I saw the Hawk Warriors were playing at old SF Civic and he reached up and grabbed a one hand rebound off a long J, brought it down and held it below waist as he looked down court. That did it.

    Suns had cool uni too, the purple with the orange boiling sun on the hip. Silas was beast too. but Thurmond used to mess up Neal Walk. I remember him sending one of those sky hooks right back over his head.

    • willedav said, on January 12, 2017 at 11:21 am

      Loved the Warriors PA guy Dick Callahan from those days. Hawkins always got the final intro like best players did: At 6 foot 8 in his 8th year from the University of Iowa, number 42 the Hawk Connie Hawkins.

      Whenever someone scored he always gave name and number, and me and my buddies used to say this shit all the time: 44 is George Gervin or Number Two is Alex English. Fun times.

      • wilcojoe said, on January 12, 2017 at 11:54 am

        Dick Callahan was the best. When I was a kid, I used to try and impersonate him all the time. ” Chris Mullin at the line, shhhhhhooooooting twoooo.” Nowadays all the NBA PA guys, sound like they should be DJ’ing at a strip club.

      • unca_chuck said, on January 12, 2017 at 12:55 pm

        Yup. Loved that . . . .

      • djloo27 said, on January 12, 2017 at 2:44 pm

        I’ll take the late John F.X. Condon of MSG over Zinkoff or anybody else…

  6. zumiee said, on January 12, 2017 at 11:50 am

    “Puts to rout forever the propagated notion that sport is a sacred cow and the only milk it emits is pure”

    TF’s father despised Cosell’s broadcasting style. His father is quoted in one of the broadcasting history books as saying he hated how Cosell’s style strove to bring attention to himself, and that should be a cardinal sin for sports broadcasters.
    I didn’t like Cosell being in the booth as game broadcaster color-analyst. In dramatic moments, especially in playoff games, he would always break in and steal the call from the play-by-play guy. It probably drove Keith Jackson nuts, but Jackson never said anything about it. Cosell was too big a star in those days.
    I would agree that Cosell was important in bringing a more critical approach to sports reporting and broadcasting, and taking on sacred cows. But it was done with a massive ego, unfortunately.

    • zumiee said, on January 12, 2017 at 11:57 am

      This one actually kind of makes me LOL. It could have been Jackson’s moment to make a great call, and maybe his slight hesitation became Cosell’s cue to jump in. Or maybe Jackson figured, what the heck, why even start making a dramatic call, because Cosell’s going to break in anyway.

      • zumiee said, on January 12, 2017 at 11:59 am

        It’s hilarious watching Chambliss have to run through the mob of fans just to get around the bases.
        A whole different attitude about stadium security in those days.

      • zumiee said, on January 12, 2017 at 12:02 pm

        Between second and third base, Chambliss realizes he’s going to have to get mean with the fans, if he’s going to make it around the bases. He doesn’t want to do a “Merkle’s boner” type of thing, and not make it to homeplate.

      • willedav said, on January 12, 2017 at 12:08 pm

        thx zum, typical Howard in his bombastic cadence. Jackson was excellent at college football.
        I remember Cosell going off on MNF one night as a QB threw an interception and ranting about what the QB was doing throwing it right to the DB and Don Meredith tells him, “Aw Howard, sometimes they’re the only guys that are open.”

      • chipower9 said, on January 12, 2017 at 1:16 pm

        LMAO…Merideth had that sense of humor that was drier than Texas sand…

    • wilcojoe said, on January 12, 2017 at 12:00 pm

      Keith Jackson was outstanding doing college football. In his later years, he worked with Dan Fouts and they were terrific together. I saw Keith in the booth as a guest during the Rose Bowl this year and he didn’t look very good at all. I hope he is ok.

      • Flavor said, on January 12, 2017 at 12:40 pm

        he’s got to be 90 years old, he’s a long way from being *ok*

  7. unca_chuck said, on January 12, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    Get a load of the guy jumping out of the stands to get the ball. Got to be a 12′ drop. Prolly broke his leg.

  8. unca_chuck said, on January 12, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    And yeah, Howard dicked that all up.

  9. unca_chuck said, on January 12, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    “That’s a FUMBUUULLLLE”

    “Major Ogilvie runs through the line and scores! And he’s only a soph-o-more. ”

    These were running jokes with my buddies for years.

  10. djloo27 said, on January 12, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    There were no rules in NYC in the ’70’s.
    Take it, drink it, smoke it, fuck it, steal it, kill it……..nobody’s lookin’

  11. alleykat69 said, on January 12, 2017 at 2:28 pm

    Oh man I dug Keith Jackson growing up, he is Mr. College Football in my book with his southern twang/ drawl just cracked me up!
    Welllll we got a barn burner shaping up today, The Texas Longhorns are coming into to Norman Oklahoma taking on the Sooners who are circling their wagons and Texas mascot Bevo and his longhorns is honery and looking to knock a wagon over before this game gets on its way!!Jackson is such a great storyteller imo..

    • wilcojoe said, on January 12, 2017 at 2:34 pm

      That’s spot on Kat. Only thing missing is “should be a dandy” and “whoa Nellie!”

  12. zumiee said, on January 12, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    I’m so proud of the Cubs for this. They’re doing their White House visit in the next few days, before Obama leaves office. That is so cool.

    • zumiee said, on January 12, 2017 at 3:26 pm

      It’ll be interesting to see how championship visits to the White House play out in the next 4 years, across all the various sports.

      • djloo27 said, on January 12, 2017 at 4:34 pm

        You don’t think they would have done the same thing if the douchebag thief was elected?

    • unca_chuck said, on January 12, 2017 at 3:34 pm

      Very cool.

  13. Flavor said, on January 12, 2017 at 5:24 pm

    that CHambliss HR video is amazing. I vaguely remember it and probably saw a replay of it somewhere along the way. But this one was very good quality, you really get a sense of what it was like on the field. Guys are just out there getting blasted into.

  14. djloo27 said, on January 12, 2017 at 5:40 pm

    I remember that night so well. It was brutally cold for baseball.
    Maybe in the 30’s…

    • Flavor said, on January 12, 2017 at 5:59 pm

      were you at the game?

      • djloo27 said, on January 12, 2017 at 6:23 pm

        Nope. Watched it in my best friend’s basement (still is today).
        Black & white TV…

      • Flavor said, on January 12, 2017 at 7:36 pm

        that’s awesome.

  15. willedav said, on January 12, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    wow Stanford blowing up Wazzu to climb out of cellar. Cal already won, gotta cover at home in league.

  16. chipower9 said, on January 13, 2017 at 7:13 am

    31 daze until pitchers and catchers report. Play ball, bitches!

  17. chipower9 said, on January 13, 2017 at 8:20 am

    Not a big hoops fan, but Saturday has a number of very good college hoops games
    T’d-up. The best game of the day will be my Alma Mater, St. Mary’s at Gonzaga. Go Gaels!

    • willedav said, on January 13, 2017 at 8:35 am

      tough one, Zags are loaded with size and shooters plus a graduate UW guy Goss as PG to add leadership. There will be rematch down here so see what happens round 1. Gaels playing well lately tho.

      • chipower9 said, on January 13, 2017 at 8:51 am

        Yeah, I will be very surprised if St. Mary’s wins up in WA. It will even be tough to win at home. Of course, it all means little. St. Mary’s swept the series last year, and won the WCC during the regular season, but could not get it done in the conference tourney, and didn’t make the cut for the NCAA.

  18. willedav said, on January 13, 2017 at 8:33 am

    Btw I can’t zoom in close enough to see, so who are the Giants in that great 75 AS pic? Is one of them standing next to Braves guy, couple over from Stros Bob Watson?

  19. unca_chuck said, on January 13, 2017 at 9:11 am

    Would love to go to that St. Mary’s game.

  20. pawliekokonuts said, on January 13, 2017 at 9:24 am

    Maybe it was the mention of Ishikawa here. This morning, at breakfast, I popped in the DVD of the 2014 Series. I always get them. (Listen to me, like it’s a given.) I hadn’t even opened this one up. Why not, for a January morning? 1. I forgot about the YES chant and hand sign with raised forefingers. Pence said it started with Tyler Colvin. Tyler Colvin. There’s a name. 2. Man, oh man. The homer by Morse and then by Ishi in the NLCS clincher — are there any homers more thrilling in the SF era? Not many, not many. I cried. Like Sabean did. Morse just muscling the ball and exaltingly rounding the bases. Ishikawa rounding third and throwing his helmet in fury and triumph. Somehow, somehow, more powerful than winning a World Series.

    • Flavor said, on January 13, 2017 at 10:26 am

      The Ishi *helmet slam* was epic. It was like he was unloading all the shit that had gone wrong in his career, his life, in one violent smash to the ground…….

    • chipower9 said, on January 13, 2017 at 2:45 pm

      For me, right up there with any that was part of our three WS titles, was the HR by Brian Johnson (bottom of the 12th) against the hated bambinos. Giants had battled back. Shooter Beck had worked out of a bases-juiced no out jam, and then Johnson hit his HR. Part of that being so special for me was that I was there. And while it tied us with the bums (Giants went on to win the West), it was a regular season game, and it was pure pandemonium…it was truly like a play-off atmosphere. The only HRs I have personally seen that rank up there is when Bonds broke the single season record, and also Aaron’s record. I was there the night he broke the single season record.

      • unca_chuck said, on January 13, 2017 at 4:18 pm

        I saw 72 and 73. Some Dodger knuckleballer was throwing. They rescheduled that game because of 9/11 and that series got pushed back to the end of the season. I’ll never forget the scrum that lasted 20 minutes trying to get the ball.

  21. Bozo said, on January 13, 2017 at 10:28 am

    The 1975 NL AS team? Bobby Murcer was the lone Giants rep and Henry Kissinger threw out the first pitch (I had to look it up). I don’t even remember Murcer being on the Giants, for some reason I thought he was a Yank for life.

  22. alleykat69 said, on January 13, 2017 at 10:45 am

    Bobby Murcer was traded to the Giants for Bobby Bonds another unpopular trade in Giants history..

    • djloo27 said, on January 13, 2017 at 11:08 am

      And then for Madlock, i believe…

  23. Flavor said, on January 13, 2017 at 12:39 pm

    the big news of the day
    John Shea ‏@JohnSheaHey 5m5 minutes ago
    Will Smith is signed, so all arb-eligible Giants under contract.

  24. Flavor said, on January 13, 2017 at 12:42 pm

    I haven’t been huge on collecting baseball cards since I was probably 10-11 and I don’t have any of them anymore. But this is the first baseball card I recall getting.

    • djloo27 said, on January 13, 2017 at 1:28 pm

      Nice of the photographer to squeeze Murcer into the picture…

    • djloo27 said, on January 13, 2017 at 10:14 pm

      Just in case you forgot, my favorite banner ever was unfurled by 2 kids at old Yankee Stadium some 50 years ago:

      “FOR BETTER OR WORSER, WE LOVE BOBBY MURCER”

  25. pawliekokonuts said, on January 13, 2017 at 1:14 pm

    Got Murcer’s autograph, as a Giant, at Shea. Real gentleman. Don’t know where it is; don’t care for autographs anymore, but he was cool. “I’ll sign for everybody.”

  26. pawliekokonuts said, on January 13, 2017 at 1:15 pm

    Been looking at the 2014 DVD some more: my boy Gregor Blanco played a nice role. Some big hits, good running.

    • Bozo said, on January 13, 2017 at 4:10 pm

      I wouldn’t be surprised if the Giants resigned him and that wouldn’t bother me a bit.

  27. blade3colorado said, on January 13, 2017 at 2:58 pm

    I think Mark Trumbo’s agent has totally screwed up in negotiating a contract for him (i.e., asking for too much), that ultimately, the Rockies or maybe, the Rangers will benefit. Fans in Sherpaland are pissed because they feel the Rockies overpaid Desmond. Worse, they want to put him at 1st base. Just about every day, I see articles suggesting that the Sherps are not finished fine tuning their roster.

    Anywho, I think the Orioles think Trumbo is radioactive now and want nothing to do with him. Added benefit – they would be given draft-pick compensation if Trumbo signed with another club.

  28. zumiee said, on January 13, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    The guy performing the national anthem in this video clip is wearing the Seinfeld puffy shirt.
    The performance is pretty different, but kind of interesting.

    • wilcojoe said, on January 13, 2017 at 5:25 pm

      Seinfeld puffy shirt…That is awesome!

  29. willedav said, on January 13, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    MAAC battle featuring first place Rider at Manhattan Jaspers live on ESPN U. Noticed Monmouth on a roll lately and Hall playing well too. Saw stat that said Rutgers since joining Big 10 is 3-38 in conference. Ouch.

    If Murcer was the AS, that ain’t him next to the Braves guy near Bob Watson. ?

    • Macdog said, on January 13, 2017 at 6:32 pm

      MU actually was slumping, lost three in a row — including in-state to Rider and (Hey) St. Peter’s — before winning last two. Hawks hoping not to fall at Niagara tomorrow.

      • willedav said, on January 13, 2017 at 6:42 pm

        blasted Iona tho as shooting came back around, right? Announcer said Manhattan (which doesn’t look very good) just got first league win vs. Niagara so Hawks should be OK. I think next week they go at Canisius, also near top.

        Where is the league tourney this year?

      • Macdog said, on January 13, 2017 at 6:49 pm

        MAAC tourney is in Albany (Siena home), where it’s been held for a while now. Yep, MU has upstate NY trip to Niagara and Canisius (Monday).

    • djloo27 said, on January 13, 2017 at 6:39 pm

      I don’t see him in the picture, Willie. Maybe he’s out of frame to the right of those Pirate reserves.
      I looked it up and he did play (0-2)…

      • Macdog said, on January 13, 2017 at 6:44 pm

        That make sense, since it looks like the players starting with the Braves guy are lined up in alphabetical order by city.

      • djloo27 said, on January 13, 2017 at 6:49 pm

        Excellent, Macdog…

        Did you guys see (or care) that they moved the Steeler-Chief game on Sunday to prime time (here) due to weather reports?

  30. Flavor said, on January 13, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    here’s what that National Anthem dude sounds like now

    • djloo27 said, on January 13, 2017 at 6:56 pm

      And I laid traps for troubadours
      Who get killed before they reach Bombay

      • Flavor said, on January 13, 2017 at 6:58 pm

        Stones. Nice. I’ve heard that song 10,000 times and never bothered to wonder what a troubadour was. Learn something every day here.

      • djloo27 said, on January 13, 2017 at 7:02 pm

        I’ve heard it 20,000 times and don’t know what a troubadour is…

      • Flavor said, on January 13, 2017 at 7:12 pm

        apparently they are suckers who fail to reach their intended destination.

      • djloo27 said, on January 13, 2017 at 8:29 pm

        Well, they sure ain’t makin’ it to Bombay with Jagger on the case…

  31. pawliekokonuts said, on January 13, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    Just because of Loo, I’m rooting for the Chiefs.

    • djloo27 said, on January 13, 2017 at 9:17 pm

      Thanks, Pawlie. Good to see you back here…

  32. djloo27 said, on January 13, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    • djloo27 said, on January 13, 2017 at 10:09 pm

      The Chiefs last appeared in a Super Bowl 5 weeks later…

  33. snarkk said, on January 13, 2017 at 10:20 pm

    I never considered Bobby Murcer a Giant.
    By most accounts, neither did he…

  34. snarkk said, on January 13, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    Cal hires Wisconsin D-coordinator Justin Wilcox as head coach for football.
    Dare I say, meh? I’ll give him benefit of doubt, he’s got Pac 12 history and connections, but surely there isn’t going to be a mass migration immediately of 4 star and 5 star studs to play for this guy. Best word I’ve read is they fired Dykes because of two things: a roving eye for other jobs, and ticket sales are way way behind even last season, and those weren’t good. Wilcox will drive ticket sales? Looks like another few years of mediocrity, will hope for the best. Now, maybe we’ll have a good D, but can’t score. Niners great Dave Wilcox’ son. Well, at least the Bears have a really nice stadium…

  35. zumiee said, on January 13, 2017 at 11:49 pm

    Cool video clips of Schustik and Altamont. Very interesting.


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