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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on January 25, 2017

New thread. I got tired of looking at Tito’s tired eyes. We brought Hundley on board. The Korean, too. I can’t find much enthusiasm to banter around either pick up. Glad we have them. Next.

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  1. gianthead said, on January 25, 2017 at 5:10 am

    I didn’t see the Hundley contract terms. Any one have that? They won’t go three catchers right?

    • Flavor said, on January 25, 2017 at 5:33 am

      i think they gave him 1 yr, 2 mil. Something like that. Where are we with you busting Stix out the clink? Trump seems to be signing an awful lot of shit lately. Just slip one extra sheet in there and let’s make this happen already. The pussies are getting hungry.

      • gianthead said, on January 25, 2017 at 12:12 pm

        If I get close to the West Wingm..count it done. I am still awaiting security clearance:( umsmiley face.. they keep mentioning something about a blog named oneflapdowm77….and certain elements…lulz..word!

      • gianthead said, on January 25, 2017 at 12:14 pm

        And great terms on Hundley and good bye Jose Bautista’s replacement Ehire Adrianza…

  2. Bozo said, on January 25, 2017 at 6:45 am

    Not bad, MLB Columnist Jim Callis rates Christian Arroyo at number 4 on his top 10 3rd base prospect list.

    http://m.giants.mlb.com/news/article/214061862/2017-top-10-third-base-prospects/

    • gianthead said, on January 25, 2017 at 12:15 pm

      One of the two best hitters in the minors…what I like to hear…

  3. willedav said, on January 25, 2017 at 7:19 am

    Evans said he’d like to see one of the kids win the LF job outright and not go platoon. Williamson is the one who still has options, so Parker has the edge there. And leaves door open for Ruggiano/Morse RH pop.

    Dunno where I saw it (mc chron maybe) but read that the OOO move makes it easier for J Roll to make the club; also that Bochy likes him very much and has for long time. Hmmnn.

    What sense does it make to take your GG level 1b and throw him in LF with all the other options? I get Posey can benefit behind the plate a little less often, but imo it only makes sense vs. tough LHP. If SF can’t find a LF to hit better than a back up C like Hundley does they are sunk.

    And as Loo mentioned long time ago, there is zero precedence for someone moving from1b to the OF. Other way around sure, but I’d say less time Belt is in LF the better. Leave the guy where he is, he’s dang good at it.

    • Flavor said, on January 25, 2017 at 7:58 am

      He’s a great first baseman. I am of the opinion that he could be a very good left fielder. Maybe not gold glove because he doesn’t have the speed, but he’s got the skills to be a very good left fielder.

      • willedav said, on January 25, 2017 at 8:14 am

        Adequate I could see, but he’s pretty slow. While Posey is OK at 1b, he’s not near as valuable there as Belt.
        But who is at C? It can’t be Hundley full time with Brown as his back up–imo this is total downgrade to what you already have penciled in.
        Until Giants find a legit ml level full time C, all this moving Posey stuff is fantasy island.

      • chipower9 said, on January 25, 2017 at 12:39 pm

        I am inclined to agree with WillieD on this one.

  4. willedav said, on January 25, 2017 at 8:28 am

    The whole reason SF signed Hundley in the first place is because they have a bunch of stiffs behind Posey that are clearly not full time Cs. Which has been ongoing theme since Big T was dumped off to Texas.
    You had the Prez and Stewart, poor Susac, Hacktor, now Brown and Pinto.

    Posey at 1b is not going 30/100/.900 OPS—he just isn’t that type of hitter. I can see BA consistent .280 plus for years with the singles to RF. At another park where he can rock bombs over or off a RCF wall he’d dominate, but not at ATT.

    So you can play around with moving him and Belt, but I don’t see value gained til they find a C that can hit.
    Meanwhile, you’ve got other OF spots to fill soon too.

  5. blade3colorado said, on January 25, 2017 at 8:57 am

    Total myth that Belt isn’t fast. Yes, he got caught stealing all 4 times he attempted a SB last season. However, he is working on this and other aspects of his game in the off season (see link). ALSO, HE HAS SHOWN THE ABILITY TO STEAL BASES BEFORE. Similarly, the Giants (not me) have suggested that Belt can play left field. In short, they know he has the athleticism to play the position or why talk about it?

    http://etfinalscoretest.cms.falconocp.com/ET-Baseball+Softball/468658/san-francisco-giants-brandon-belt-working-on-speed-power-at-apec-aiming-for-more-in-2017

    Hey, I have said on numerous occasions previously that I disliked Belt . . . However, he finally showed me last season, where I actually said, “He is untouchable.” I still feel that way. I also want to see Bochy experiment with Belt in the lead off position. See what happens and give it more than 1-2 frickin’ games Boch!!!!

  6. Flavor said, on January 25, 2017 at 9:10 am

    I think Belt has adequate speed and he used to be a better base stealer. He doesn’t have that quick first few steps you want to see in a gold glove outfielder.
    And WD, I don’t think they are going to put Belt in LF for good. But for a half a dozen games a year I don’t see the problem. And you’re right, the Giants haven’t had a true mlb level back up catcher for so long I can’t remember the last one.

    • chipower9 said, on January 25, 2017 at 12:41 pm

      Spot starts in LF I am down with, but not a significant chunk of time. Belt’s primary role should remain the first-sacker.

  7. djloo27 said, on January 25, 2017 at 9:11 am

    The only scenario that I can see Belt leading off would be as a shake up if the team is really slumping or has some injury problems. Like I’ve said, I wish he would learn to pull the ball down the 307′ line instead of losing a dozen homers a year in triples alley…

    • unca_chuck said, on January 25, 2017 at 9:22 am

      Nooner is still my favorite to lead off. Because he can steal. Whether we run him remains the issue. I floated the Belt leadoff a while ago mainly because of his walks. At least he gets on base. Span isn’t getting younger and isn’t running much anyway.

      As far as Belt goes, Loo, Posey should hit 30 to LF. Easier said that done. They need dead pull hitters, sure.

      • djloo27 said, on January 25, 2017 at 9:25 am

        Seems like one of those hitting gurus a few years back (Charlie Lau?) made it illegal to be a dead pull hitter…

  8. Flavor said, on January 25, 2017 at 9:36 am

    The great and all powerful and all knowing and wondrous Nunie will be our leadoff hitter and I expect him to be very good at it if allowed the opportunity to run whenever he wants. I just like kicking the idea of Belt at the top around because I think he’d be a very good lead off hitter and would provide power at a spot that I wish more managers would consider.

  9. Flavor said, on January 25, 2017 at 9:59 am

    Blade, this sucks, yes?
    Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 7m7 minutes ago
    More
    Greg Holland close to deal with #Rockies, per @JonHeyman. Had COL pitching coach Steve Foster as his bullpen coach in KC.

    • blade3colorado said, on January 25, 2017 at 10:11 am

      Yes. The Rockies have been talking about upgrading their bullpen and per the local media here, they had Holland on their radar. Wish we would have grabbed him . . . sigh.

      Flav, again thanks for your support about our unborn child. Others here too. Just spoke to Linh last night (her day) and she had just visited her physician. Baby’s gestation growth back on track (normal) and I am obviously a bit more relieved about this. Just posted a video of the unborn baby (sonogram) on FB. Yep, a proud to be daddy. lulz.

    • djloo27 said, on January 25, 2017 at 10:20 am

      Steve Foster is also the composer of Swanee River…

      • Macdog said, on January 25, 2017 at 2:14 pm

        I thought it was Ed Norton.

  10. alleykat69 said, on January 25, 2017 at 10:27 am

    Giants probably wanted Al Holland back are Terry Muholland before Greg Holland meh..

  11. unca_chuck said, on January 25, 2017 at 10:52 am

    Would you believe Mike Remlinger?

  12. djloo27 said, on January 25, 2017 at 11:17 am

    Kind of surprising that Pagan, Romo, and Lopez are still unsigned…

    • gianthead said, on January 25, 2017 at 12:20 pm

      Being sarcastic Dracalu??? didn’t Lopez announce his retirement??

  13. blade3colorado said, on January 25, 2017 at 11:21 am

    Still not seeing the Holland to Rockies trade confirmed yet. Checked all over and the only thing besides Rosenthal Tweet, is this:

    “The Washington Nationals and Colorado Rockies “may be” among the finalists to land former Kansas City Royals closer Greg Holland, according to FanRag Sports’ Jon Heyman. Heyman notes that a mystery team is also in the mix.”

    • blade3colorado said, on January 25, 2017 at 11:30 am

      Ahh, just confirmed at ESPN.

  14. zumiee said, on January 25, 2017 at 11:35 am

    I can’t see the phrase “tired eyes” without thinking of the Neil Young lyric:

    “Tired Eyes”

    Well he shot four men in a cocaine deal
    And he left them lyin’ in an open field
    Full of old cars with bullet holes in the mirrors
    He tried to do his best but he could not

    Please take my advice, please take my advice
    Please take my advice
    Open up the tired eyes
    Open up the tired eyes

    Well, it wasn’t supposed to go down that way
    But they burned his brother, you know
    And left him lying in the driveway
    They let him down with nothin’
    He tried to do his best but he could not

    Please take my advice, please take my advice
    Please take my advice
    Open up the tired eyes
    Open up the tired eyes

    Well tell me more, tell me more, tell me more
    I mean was he a heavy doper or was he just a loser?
    He was a friend of yours
    What do you mean, he had bullet holes in his mirrors?
    He tried to do his best but he could not

    Please take my advice, please take my advice
    Please take my advice
    Open up the tired eyes
    Open up the tired eyes

  15. djloo27 said, on January 25, 2017 at 11:48 am

    Mary Tyler Moore has passed away.
    Here we go…

  16. sandog said, on January 25, 2017 at 11:54 am

    We signed Nick Hundley? I’ve called for us bringing him on board for years. Dead pull hitter. Good fit for ATT. Love the signing.
    …..and now I see Loo’s post about MTM which blows my high completely…..

    • sandog said, on January 25, 2017 at 11:59 am

      and Brent Musburger is shutting it down on Tuesday? More bad news.

      • unca_chuck said, on January 25, 2017 at 1:56 pm

        Good news to me . . . Pusburger anyway. Loved thre MTM show back in the day. Bob Newhart was right after IIRC.

  17. gianthead said, on January 25, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    Mary Tyler Moore…my first crush!!!

    I would expect the days Posey starts at first will be often against lefties and would expect Belt is not playing much left against lefties…I really like Hundley coming aborard.12 homers I think is possible as a backup…

    • gianthead said, on January 25, 2017 at 12:24 pm

      And I can see Nats jumping in late on Holland. Didn’t Harper snidely comment about Nats mgmt being more focused on spring training sites than adding players like Holland by name?

    • alleykat69 said, on January 25, 2017 at 12:43 pm

      Personally GH..I might have went with Farrah Fawcett,Bo Derek are Linda Evans
      But anyway RIP Mary Tyler Moore!

      • gianthead said, on January 25, 2017 at 3:21 pm

        Kay, I may be a little older than you then. I became aware of MTM first…

  18. chipower9 said, on January 25, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    Only 20 daze until pitchers and catchers report, girls. Play Ball!

  19. chipower9 said, on January 25, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    Catching-up from yesterday…I like both the Hundley and Hwang moves.

    Like the rest of FU, I wish they would have signed Holland.

    • alleykat69 said, on January 25, 2017 at 1:21 pm

      YeahChi,so would could have the law firms of Hundley Hawg&Holland to go along with Posey Pence& Panik…

  20. unca_chuck said, on January 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    Zumie, I thought the exact same thing re: Neil Young and tired eyes. It’s a curse my mom gave me. Everything somehow remonds me of a song.

  21. Macdog said, on January 25, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    For you music guys:

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. – Drummer Butch Trucks, one of the founding members of the Southern rock legend The Allman Brothers Band, has died. He was 69.

    And there’s a baseball connection: Butch’s uncle was major league pitcher Virgil Trucks (1941-58).

    • chipower9 said, on January 25, 2017 at 3:06 pm

      Just saw that. Allman Brothers were one of the bands I cut my teeth on. RIP.

    • djloo27 said, on January 25, 2017 at 9:10 pm

      I think Virgil Trucks has some connection to Mays that I am trying to remember…

  22. Macdog said, on January 25, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    Looks like Holland to Rox for 1Y, $7M.

  23. giants54 said, on January 25, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    Giants will need that $7m at the deadline.

    • Bozo said, on January 25, 2017 at 7:13 pm

      Exactly.

  24. snarkk said, on January 25, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    Damn, Mary Tyler Moore gone. This is a shock; I am quite melancholy about this loss.
    The DVD and MTM shows were each a staple of my youth. Reruns for DVD, MTM in real time. She filled out a pair of capri pants like no other. Her eponymous show was a classic of all time, one of my favorites — unforgettable characters and great writing. I remember her first MTM show. Lou Grant was interviewing her. He said after a bit: “You’ve got spunk. I HATE spunk!” She was a role model for ’70s women; for me I could see her as a type of woman I would like to be with. Dick Van Dyke is nearly 90, still in good shape. I’m sure he is sad tonight.
    Shortly, some bourbon must be dispatched in Mary’s most gracious honor and memory…

    • djloo27 said, on January 25, 2017 at 9:21 pm

      It was a fictional character. There are no women like that…

      • eddacker said, on January 26, 2017 at 12:18 am

        I know someone like that. Although she is neither clumsy nor can dance like Laura P. She loves her husband cleans house, gardens, cooks, bakes, raised 2 boys, was a scout master, laughs a lot and is the CFO for a large firm. Plus she is still good looking. And loves cowboy poetry.


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