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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on January 31, 2017

Unless I resort to haikus, the last defense for a thread in the middle of winter is a trip to mlbtraderumors.com to see what they got cookin’. Today’s current lead headline does not inspire.

Market Notes: Profar, Utley, Francoeur, Masterson

So force yourself to comment on that headline or come up with something else.

It’s January 31st for what that’s worth….

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  1. chipower9 said, on January 31, 2017 at 7:27 am

    Lucky 13!

    Only 13 daze until pitchers and catchers report. Giddy up and play ball!

  2. willedav said, on January 31, 2017 at 8:15 am

    Well, what battles are out there in ST? How many of the invites such as Rollins, Morse, Ruggiano do you think actually make the team, barring injury of course?
    How many pitchers on staff at opening day? Usually there are extra days off at start of season (tho i’m unaware of April sched), and since SF seems to have at least 5 SPs, do you need 11 or 12? that is if you are bochy.
    If he’s not gonna start and Cain is, what do you do with Blach? Do you keep him stretched out or pencil him into late inning relief role?

    • chipower9 said, on January 31, 2017 at 9:15 am

      I think a lot of the “who makes the team” conversations cannot realistically be answered until we see what transpires in ST. On the number of pitchers to start the season, there are three off days in April: 3rd, 17th, and 20th. We all know Bochy likes a lot of bullets in his bullpen.

      I think that unless Rollins just absolutely sucks, and it is apparent he is done, he will get a shot at making the roster.

  3. alleykat69 said, on January 31, 2017 at 8:35 am

    Maybe we give Masterson a cup of coffee look in ST, so we can hear his walk up lyric
    “Back when the west was very young,
    There lived a man named Masterson,
    He had a cane and wore a derby,
    They called him Bat,Bat Masterson

  4. zumiee said, on January 31, 2017 at 9:12 am

    There aren’t as many foggy days in the Central Valley as there used to be, due to a variety of factors, including climate change and more land getting paved over; but today is pretty foggy and gloomy. The air is like breathing cold steam. The Valley cries out for baseball season to get here!!

  5. zumiee said, on January 31, 2017 at 9:16 am

    I saw “Thunderbolt and Lightfoot” again last night, when I saw it had just started as I was flipping channels. Kind of an underrated film, with lots of good acting performances in it. The plot line is actually pretty thin, but the actors really make those characters feel like real people, who have lived actual lives. And I even noticed Gary Busey in there in a real early appearance in his acting career. The film was funnier than I remembered from a long time ago. It’s more of a comedy than I had realized.

  6. Flavor said, on January 31, 2017 at 9:25 am

    I hope Rollins has something left. He’s got that reliable vet presence, the same way Ellis Burks or Gallaraga or Dunston had. Who am I forgetting? Chris Speier? Who else? I like having at least one of those guys around for spot starts and good vibes on the bench.

    • chipower9 said, on January 31, 2017 at 10:07 am

      Renteria was one of those guys, IMO.

    • alleykat69 said, on January 31, 2017 at 10:10 am

      Reggie Sanders was always a bit of a badass reminding me of Ellis Burks both with power both with attitudes.

  7. zumiee said, on January 31, 2017 at 9:46 am

    Ty Blach doesn’t score high in any of the prospect lists in baseball media, but that dude came in during the heat of the chase for a playoff spot last season and pitched great. I wonder how many of the top pitching prospects on any of the teams could have done that.

    • alleykat69 said, on January 31, 2017 at 10:16 am

      Agree Z,
      And if they weren’t paying Cain a zillion dollars 💵 I would like him to get that 5th slot in the rotation! 3 lefties in the rotation especially against the Dogpile is the right call..

  8. Bozo said, on January 31, 2017 at 9:53 am

    Going into ST, my guesses are –
    the OF will have Parker and Williams battling for the starting LF job, Parker probably gets the edge because he’s out of options which would send Mac to Sac. Hernandez (out of options), Ruggiano and Morse will probably battle for the OF bench.

    For the infield, I’d imagine the vets, Rollins and Gillaspie currently have the bench edge, Specs still has options so he’d be a long shot.

    Pitching – unless Cain completely breaks down in the desert he probably has the edge for the 5th slot, Suarez probably gets the long man role. I figure non-roster invitee Bryan Morris gets a long look and Blach probably starts for the River Cats.

    Catcher – Hundley over Brown

    • chipower9 said, on January 31, 2017 at 10:09 am

      Good synopsis, especially from a clown. 😉 But seriously, I am with you on most of this, John. Will be interesting to see if this is how it all shakes-out this year. I am bummed that I am not going to ST this year. My daughter and I need to get back on that rotation next year.

      • Bozo said, on January 31, 2017 at 10:17 am

        It’s probably good to take a break. You might not want to be like me though,the last time that I went to ST was in 89, doh.

      • chipower9 said, on January 31, 2017 at 11:50 am

        Ha. All good. I dig the ST vibe and it has always been a way for me and my daughter to get away and have a few days together that focuses on baseball.

  9. chipower9 said, on January 31, 2017 at 10:12 am

    Wonder if G-Head is unconscious on the Florida beach from too many Mai Tias (or too much of the Trumpster’s kool-aid). 😉

    • willedav said, on January 31, 2017 at 10:33 am

      we disagree but he’s the one with all the mouths to feed. Raising a family pretty expensive these days; shot at a govt job ($$ + benefits) would be high on most people’s list.

      Btw, someone unearthed convo btw Sessions with Yates in 2015 about the integrity she needed to have in DOJ to defy Obama directives he disagreed with. Of course when she does it to Trump shoe is on other foot…

  10. unca_chuck said, on January 31, 2017 at 10:43 am

    Shit, Willie, we all have to try and get through this political hellscape. I hear DeVos passed through and was on her way to becoming sects of education.

    Dawg and Flav don’t you guys work in the school system? How do you feeel abou her? Every teacher I know thinks she’ll fuck things up royally and institute Christian based education across the board.

  11. chipower9 said, on January 31, 2017 at 10:45 am

    Just read where John Wetton, bassist for King Crimson passed today. Loved the early King Crimson stuff. RIP.

  12. unca_chuck said, on January 31, 2017 at 11:31 am

    Saw that, chuck. With Greg Lake that’s 2 guys from the band. Saw the Fripp/Belew/Levin incarnation back in the early 80s. Incredible stuff

    • chipower9 said, on January 31, 2017 at 11:51 am

      Yep…they were ahead of their times.

  13. Flavor said, on January 31, 2017 at 11:42 am

    Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 9s9 seconds ago

    joe nathan gets $1.25m on nats minors deal. gives them another closing option.

    He wasn’t that bad last year. Wish we had given him this deal.

    • chipower9 said, on January 31, 2017 at 11:51 am

      For that coin…I would have brought him back. Another swing-and-miss by Sabevans?

      • Flavor said, on January 31, 2017 at 11:59 am

        I’m not sure it’s “swing and miss” territory but it would be nice to see them continue to try to make the periphery of the team better. They did that with the Korean so I’m not grading them out too low for this off season. I’d put them at a C+ right now.

    • Bozo said, on January 31, 2017 at 12:18 pm

      Damn, I was really hoping they’d give him another shot this year.

  14. Flavor said, on January 31, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    It’s finally over……
    Joe Salvatore ‏@radiojoee 5m5 minutes ago
    ICYMI on ex- #SFGiants …Ehire Adrianza claimed on waivers by #Brewers

    • chipower9 said, on January 31, 2017 at 2:32 pm

      WOO HOO! Sayonara, Agent Zero…best of luck, and don’t let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out.

    • snarkk said, on January 31, 2017 at 4:52 pm

      Brewers officially suck…

  15. willedav said, on January 31, 2017 at 12:46 pm

    wow collective sigh of relief there. I understand Triple O was only supposed to be Craw’s back up at SS, but yeow just didn’t cut it and took up roster spot.

    Over on F/G in the Hardball Times section I saw column on OF defense. Guy raved about Royals OF D before they got to the Series, and Cubs D last year with Heyward. What he talked about was how OFs defended line drives and hard hit balls he labels “barrels.” Turns out 5 of 10 playoff teams were in top half of D stats here.

    Giants were near the bottom; in another section he graded CF only and again Giants near bottom of ml ball.

    What he’s talking about: “On toughest hits to track down a look at which teams protected most against severe damage.”

    As to Giants lack of proficiency here, he says, “Denard Span had a rough go in 2016 and his wingmen weren’t much better. In an OF as big as ATT–the Giants saw the second most barrels in play 2016, presumably because of their huge home OF–having strong defenders can be mighty beneficial.”

    Interesting argument, and one I’d never thought about before.

  16. unca_chuck said, on January 31, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    Thought you might like this one, Flav

    • Flavor said, on January 31, 2017 at 2:34 pm

      top 20

    • djloo27 said, on January 31, 2017 at 5:22 pm

      Famous for one phenomenal game and his unusual facemask…

  17. Flavor said, on January 31, 2017 at 2:38 pm

    Raiders deal getting torpedoed and it’s too funny. Fucking Davis can’t hang at that negotiation level. Adelson just finally said “fuck this guy”.

  18. djloo27 said, on January 31, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    I don’t have a very good feeling about the Giants this season.
    Seems to me that a lot would have to go right for them just to be around .500…

    • zumiee said, on January 31, 2017 at 6:09 pm

      I’m excited about the start of the season, overall; but, yeah, this is the least confident I’ve been about the Giants’ chances in quite a while. I think we’re looking at fighting for a Wild Card, and how many times can we expect Bum to have to win that Wild Card game? At some point, sheer probability math would indicate you can’t win the Wild Card game every time.

      • zumiee said, on January 31, 2017 at 6:14 pm

        But having said that, it’s a long season with a lot of highs and lows, and if the Dodgers have some key injuries, then maybe it’s a different story.
        The thing about the Dodgers is, it will probably be the same story we’ve seen for the last 4 years, they are going to really beat up on bad pitching again.

      • djloo27 said, on January 31, 2017 at 6:27 pm

        And it is the year of the rooster…

  19. gianthead said, on January 31, 2017 at 5:36 pm

    I am back Chi.. I stuck to coconut rum and pineapple!! I had my orientation today and world domination tomorrow…of course I like this Supreme Court pick but I had liked the Wisconsin jurist Sykes to add another woman to the court but also a conservative female voice…

    • snarkk said, on January 31, 2017 at 7:27 pm

      I’m hoping for a 4 year filibuster until the next election so that the people have a chance to speak…

    • Flavor said, on January 31, 2017 at 7:36 pm

      day after tomorrow spring Stix?

  20. gianthead said, on January 31, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    This is worth reading just for opening shot at Mark Davis…

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/columnists/nick-canepa/sd-sp-canepa-raiders-san-diego-20170131-story,amp.html

    Hilarious that they mucked up the Vegas deal but San Diego is the perfect spot for them to get out of the Bay Area…

  21. snarkk said, on January 31, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    RE: this thread’s heading — is Jeff Francouer still going to play in MLB? There has to be a supply of better OFers than that retread…

    • Flavor said, on January 31, 2017 at 7:35 pm

      it’s amazing. This guy was decent for like 2 years and that was a decade ago. And yet he keeps scoring gigs. I don’t get it.

      • djloo27 said, on January 31, 2017 at 7:50 pm

        Cody Ransom somehow hung around for 11 seasons…

      • snarkk said, on January 31, 2017 at 7:51 pm

        I thought he was beyond washed up when he was with the Giants 3 or 4 years ago, or was it 5?…

  22. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on January 31, 2017 at 8:38 pm

    I’m with Loo about “a lot would have to go right for this team” as currently constructed. The OF situation is just brutal, IMO, one misstep, turned ankle, hit by pitch, etc. away from being a disaster. I insist the front office cannot possibly be “good to go” about that, still think we might see a trade before the start of the season once spring training shows us something (or not).

    • alleykat69 said, on January 31, 2017 at 8:48 pm

      Sure like to see a move too P/A
      Cause are OF stinks and getting older with no speed! Then you add a possible Michael Morse to butcher balls in LF some games and it really gets depressing..,

    • snarkk said, on January 31, 2017 at 9:53 pm

      Agree, Paul. This current OF is fair, teetering on crap with an injury…

  23. unca_chuck said, on January 31, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    There’s (farfetched) talk the Chargers may move back, GH

  24. unca_chuck said, on January 31, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    I think we’ll get someone at the trade deadline to get shit straight in the OF. The season will be fine with the pitching til we stock up in July.

  25. unca_chuck said, on January 31, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    Paul, how many times has ‘as currently constructed’ finished the season that way?

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on January 31, 2017 at 9:10 pm

      Yes, Charlie, obviously the team that takes the field on opening day will not resemble the one even just a couple months later. Oddly enough, a couple of years there (including last year), the team played very well the first half but then tanked after moves were made (or, like last year, after the “regulars” returned from their injuries). Wouldn’t mind 2017 seeing an ok first half and then some moves and to pour it on and hit the post-season with some hearty momentum.

    • unca_chuck said, on January 31, 2017 at 9:15 pm

      Yeah, I think they’ll do the usual pickup of pieces around the deadline. Like everyone else, I think pen help is in order.

  26. unca_chuck said, on January 31, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    Thunderbolt and Lightfoot is a great movie. Saw it at the Fox Theater in San Mateo . . .

  27. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on January 31, 2017 at 9:39 pm

    Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, as you know by now, is the son of Anne Gorsuch, Reagan’s “head” of EPA back in the day, whose main purpose was to destroy the agency and its “glut” of business-killing regulations. Her appointee to head the Superfund program was Rita Lavelle, who had no experience at all in that area, had been a former Reagan speechwriter. I was working at that time for a publishing company that printed newsletters on environmental issues. I had the pleasure of interviewing both Gorsuch and Lavelle, and they were both total idiots, on a mission to gut the EPA. Very similar to the climate in DC we’re suddenly seeing now…

    • snarkk said, on January 31, 2017 at 9:55 pm

      Good story. Betsy Devos got out of committee on a strict party line. Maybe the most clueless Cabinet nominee in modern times. Now it looks like she may have plagiarized some responses. Ben Carson and Rick Perry are just behind her on the idiot meter…

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on January 31, 2017 at 10:16 pm

        Yeah, it would be nice to think that cabinet picks don’t really have a lot of power to influence things dramatically, but… they do…. that Reagan EPA mess, combined with James Watt “revolutionizing” the Dept. of Interior, at the same time, was unbelievable.

    • willedav said, on February 1, 2017 at 7:45 am

      great story. The kool aid of course is that loosening regulations does zero to create jobs; its primary benefit is to corp bottom line profits, as it is intended to be. Funny to hear GOP going off about restoring coal industry jobs–even the Chinese are finally hip to how destructive coal production is to their environment.
      Bush 2 did the same thing in Texas as gov then as prez as the great Molly Ivins pointed out in “Shrub.”. He made it impossible to sue big biz over environmental issues such as Erin Brockovitch did. Again, to whose benefit?


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