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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on March 21, 2017

Checking in on some of our colder bats this spring….

Span is hitting .161 with no stolen bases and no home runs. He’s about the worst although Jimmy Rollins, who is completely done as a major leaguer, is a little worse at .103 (although he does have a bomb). Pence is hitting .125. I’m just glad he hasn’t hurt himself yet. Ruggiano, another pointless spring training invite, is hitting .200 with a bomb. Morse has hit 2 home runs and done literally nothing else…..

This was a pretty amazing tweet about the Seattle closer. Wow. Barry Zito should write a song about it.

Edwin Diaz threw an intentional walk pitch 87.5 MPH… Harder than any pitch Jered Weaver threw all last season (87.1 MPH)

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  1. unca_chuck said, on March 21, 2017 at 7:12 am

    Yeah Chuck sad news about Clark. The 49ers have a strange record with ALS. 3 guys on the team in 64 and 65 died of ALS. LB Matt Hazeltine, FB Bobby Waters and QB Gary Lewis.

    • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 7:47 am

      Truly sad…and Clark is such a class guy.

      • djloo27 said, on March 21, 2017 at 9:26 am

        Look up the football Giants and “Cancer Alley”

      • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 1:15 pm

        Wow…I had not heard about this, Loo. What a trip. And I guess, from what I read, that most of the cancer and illnesses are related to a landfill, correct?

  2. Bozo said, on March 21, 2017 at 7:45 am

    And Span’s expected backup, Gorkys Hernandez is hitting .139, with 1 SB and 2 CS.

    Nunez has had a so so Spring, seemingly just trying to stay healthy, while Gillaspie (.409, 2 HRs 7 RBIs) and Hwang (.313, 3 HRs, 8RBIs) have just killed it. Ryder Jones also showed well, taking his .385 average to minor league camp.
    Maybe they should try Nunez in CF and keep the double Ds, Dizzy and the Donger at Third.

    • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 7:52 am

      Dude only has like 20-something lifetime starts in the OF, and NONE in CF. But as fucked-up as our OF is, I would be tempted to roll the dice on that…

  3. chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 7:46 am

    Yeah, our OF could be a concern if guys don’t find their hitting shoes. Parker has all but locked-up the starting LF position, IMO, and I believe Gorkys, enen though he has been sucking wind, has one of the additional OF spots all but locked-up. That too is a testament to the ineptitude of the Giants OF.

    I truly thought the Warriors game last night would be a contest. What an ass-whoopin’ and all without Durant. How long is OKC going to play their cute little cupcake theme (rhetorical question)…Cupcake this, motherfuckers. 😉

    Very entertaining WBC game last night, but damn, they really have to do something about the length of these games. Not sure the answer, but regardless, a fun game to watch. Puerto Rico remains undefeated in this year’s tourney and turned like 109 double plays last night…some stellar D.

    And as Zumiee alluded on the past thread, Pagan has had a really nice tourney. And yes…he will get a job before Kap.

    We have a concert in Davis tonight, so will miss the Japan-USA semi-final game (will try to follow via my phone). Would love to see the US finally win one of these, and it would be especially sweet to do so against Puerto Rico, who has ran the table to this point.

  4. willedav said, on March 21, 2017 at 8:29 am

    Not my thing, but I think this is good for baseball. Seems like guys that are in it are fired up, and I can see how it helps them prepare for reg season better than exhibition games with and against a lot of players who aren’t going to be around once season starts. We all know ST is way too long anyway, for everyone.

    And it’s great for fanbase of Carib and Asian markets who are truly into it. Cueto talked about heat he got back home for bowing out early round to take care of his Dad. Fans actually filled Marlins park for once.

    Maybe at some point talking heads get together and figure out a way to make it work out better in terms of when/where games get played.

    • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 8:37 am

      That is my biggest beef. I wish they could find a time during the year when each country would have access to ALL of their players, and also, that the players would be down with this. It is good baseball already, but can you imagine a USA team that had Bum, Kershaw, etc. and the best of the best at every position (for all teams).

  5. Flavor said, on March 21, 2017 at 8:30 am

    Chuck, you follow Olbermann on Twitter? Seems like it would be a good follow for you. Dude does a 5-8 min vid for GQ everyday, usually always very interesting.

  6. chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 8:39 am

    Man – I keep seeing these mock drafts that have the Niners drafting a QB with that second pick. Fuck, I hope not! Trade down and get another first round pick, and look to draft a QB later, or even next year (much better pool of QBs next year). The Niners have so many fucking holes to fill, and this year’s QB class is less than enthusing. This will be Lynch’s first true test, IMO.

    • Flavor said, on March 21, 2017 at 8:57 am

      there’s no way they draft Trubinsky. There is zero pressure on them to take a QB at #2.

      • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 9:21 am

        Well, you keep seeing exactly that in some of these mock drafts…hopefully all of those dipshits are WRONG.

        No fucking way I want Trubinsky with the second pick. Hell, I am not even convinced he is the right QB for this team.

  7. chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 9:27 am

    For some reason Stix popped into the old gourd this morning. I have a video that I want to share as somewhat of tribute to our North Woods farmer.

    Here is a backstory on the video (unless you have hillbilly blood coursing through your veins, you may not be able to discern many of the words here):

    Story of a young man whose pops and grandpa are moonshiners. After they get popped by the law, the young man joins the Army at 18 and does two tours in Viet Nam. He comes home with a “brand new plan,” which is sowing seeds from Columbia and Mexico up in the hollow of Copperhead Road. The line about a DEA chopper in the air was the line that created the association with Stix, in my mind.

    BTW…not sure if Xoot shared, but Stix’s lawyer recently asked that he be released from jail while awaiting trail, due to health issues, and him not being a threat, etc. That request was denied. I sent Stix a letter a couple of weeks ago with some baseball reading material, but have not heard back from him.

    Enjoy the video. Steve Earle – Copperhead Road, live.

    • xoot said, on March 21, 2017 at 11:09 am

      One of my favorite songs, Chi. Definitely in Stix’s world. There’s an old Letterman youtube version that’s really good, too, taped back when the album was on the charts. And yes on the hillbilly blood. My father grew up at the mouth of a holler named after one of his uncles. I’m monitoring Stix’s court docket. Next big thing will be scheduling the date of trial. Apparently the court will make that decision sometime in the next month or so.

  8. willedav said, on March 21, 2017 at 9:44 am

    F/G is doing positional rankings by team, with Giants #1 at C and #6 at 1b.

    On Posey, they say his walk rate is up and so is exit velocity, and he threw out 37% of baserunners and is best framer in the game. Also noted how many innings he has caught and that C is incredibly weak position for all of baseball. Therefore, having the best is a significant advantage even if Posey posted lower offensive numbers last year.

    Teams ahead of SF at 1b include Cubs AZ Atl and Reds in the NL (Dodgers and AGon ranked in middle of pack).
    Have to toss this one in, end of synopsis quote on resting Belt vs. LHP: “…28% better than league average vs. lefties. He can take a walk and has improved his power over the years…just another case of his skillset being undervalued.”

    • willedav said, on March 21, 2017 at 9:46 am

      of course, not vs. Opie.

  9. willedav said, on March 21, 2017 at 10:11 am

    B-day of couple blues legends— delta guitarist Son House 1902 and pianist Otis Spann 1930.
    I’m gonna hit youtube for Muddy Waters “You Can’t Spend What you Ain’t got…”

    • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 10:47 am

      Very cool. I have quite a bit of Son House stuff…not as familiar with Otis Spann’s work. I love the Delta blues but especially like the North Mississippi hill country blues (Mississippi Fred McDowell, Junior Kimbrough, RL Burnside, Jessie Mae Hemphill, etc.). Good stuff…

    • willedav said, on March 21, 2017 at 11:31 am

      used to have LP of Fred McD, with the great talking intro. Spann was Muddy’s piano player for long time in Chicago with Little Walter etc. It’s great so much of this music lives on in vids.

      • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 12:48 pm

        Agree. I have a very diverse taste in music, but the blues are right near the top for me…

    • Bozo said, on March 21, 2017 at 12:49 pm

      PBS has a program called Reel South and they just aired a great documentary on Mississippi Fred McDowell titled “Shake ’em On Down”. Some great footage and stories. He used to hang out at his local Stuckey’s so when someone wanted him they had to call Stuckey’s. I highly recommend watching it if it airs out West.

  10. chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 11:12 am

    Mac mentioned (yesterday’s thread) that Smith came off the mound with the trainer. Here is the follow-up, post-MRI…not good news for TFL…


    • gianthead said, on March 21, 2017 at 11:33 am

      Where is Crawford ranked for Ss?

      • gianthead said, on March 21, 2017 at 11:35 am

        And looks like the boys Osich and Okert are both in…Melancon, Strickland, Law, Kontos and one long guy is the pen…

      • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 12:51 pm

        I don’t know about Osich. I mean with the Smith issue, that may help, but Osich got hit pretty hard again yesterday. I just checked, and his ST stats don’t look too good. He has been in seven games with 6.1 IP:

        7.11 ERA, and WHIP of 2.21.

  11. chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 11:20 am

    Not sure if you all have seen this, or if it was discussed…Bonds joins Giants front office in an official capacity (special advisor to Baer)…


    I like the move. About time they made it official…

    • Irish Kevin said, on March 21, 2017 at 12:02 pm

      As long as he is not allowed in the club house or the dugout, I am fine with this. Just keep him away from the players.

      • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 12:53 pm

        Are you fucking crazy, Kev. If you read the article Bonds has said he cannot wait to see and work with the players again (he will be in camp for a week):

        “Bonds will represent the organization at community and organizational events in San Francisco and will spend a week in camp. During the season, he will visit the organization’s minor league teams to work with prospects.

        “I am excited to be back home with the Giants and join the team in an official capacity,” Bonds said in a statement. “San Francisco has always been my home and the Giants will always be my family. I look forward to spending time with the team, young players in the system as well as the Bay Area community.”

        Why in the hell would you keep Bonds away from the players? He is one of the greatest hitters of all time, if not the absolute greatest (and yes, much of his ass-kicking took place well before steroids became mainstream). You think he is going to try to push some juice along to them?

  12. djloo27 said, on March 21, 2017 at 11:20 am

    Maybe Javier wants to un-retire…

    • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 1:08 pm

      Hmmm…not a bad idea the way things are going with our lefty relievers…

  13. gianthead said, on March 21, 2017 at 11:25 am

    I just caught the comment from two days ago on Spam…Im ready to move on. Nunez taking any CF reps? If rather stick Gorkys if not Nunez and let’s see what Donger brings as a starting 3b…F the Spam…

  14. gianthead said, on March 21, 2017 at 11:27 am

    Pagan healthy enough for CF???? Gorkys as a defensive replacement?

    • willedav said, on March 21, 2017 at 11:57 am

      mm, I think that’s the main drawback to his current job status, which I’m sure will change once WBC is over. Pagan in LF might be OK, but CF no.
      Gorkys I don’t think is a ml baseball player. Classic good field no hit. Small sample size, but he actually had worse slugging pct than Adrianza last year. Ouch.

    • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 12:54 pm

      I am down on Pagan…and always have been. I guess the push is that the Giants wanted to offer him a one-year minor league deal, and he is looking for a major league deal in excess of one year. Dude has looked pretty damned good in the WBC…

  15. Macdog said, on March 21, 2017 at 11:55 am

    Some more injury news from Pav: Morse (hamstring) said to be out “a while.” Brutal break for him, he was on track to be on opening day roster.

  16. zumiee said, on March 21, 2017 at 12:51 pm

    Pagan made a really nice defensive play last night in leftfield. A game saver. A double off the wall bounced to him, and he fielded it with his bare hand and fired a strike to Correa, who fired it home to nail a runner by an inch at the plate, to keep it a tie game, which Puerto Rico eventually won in extra-innings.
    Although, after Pagan made the play, I had the thought in the back of my mind: I wonder if he pulled anything making that play. I just don’t have any confidence in him anymore to stay healthy for long periods of time on the field.

  17. Macdog said, on March 21, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    Hundley bomb today.

  18. unca_chuck said, on March 21, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    Shit, where did my post go? Mac, the only track Morse was on was the train to Palookaville. I sure was hoping he didn’t take up a spot and this pretty much guarantees it. Next is Rollins.

    I’m just disappointed that we didn’t do a LOT more to address the anemic outfield. Pence is getting real brittle, Span is Old Man River, and Parker is a possible black hole.

    Pagan could very well walk into the starting LF spot should he sign on.

    • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 3:05 pm

      I agree with being disappointed that Evans and crew did not do more to shore-up the OF.

    • Macdog said, on March 21, 2017 at 3:29 pm

      That was Pav’s commentary, not mine.

      • unca_chuck said, on March 21, 2017 at 4:14 pm

        Ahhh. Pav thought Morse was going to make the team? I never did. Unless he actually did something.

  19. Irish Kevin said, on March 21, 2017 at 2:52 pm

    Chi, the Giants didn’t get great till he was gone, he was a premadonna in the club house, who could not work with rookies and young players, why do you think Will Clark left. He was quite possibly the worst teammate ever. Could you image Bonds letting the Panda take his glory?? You don’t believe that Bonds attitude didn’t influence managements decisions on who to bring onto the team?? I would not let him near the current roster.

    • chipower9 said, on March 21, 2017 at 3:02 pm

      Well brother, thank goodness you are not calling the shots. LOL. Look, we all know that Bonds was an ass during his playing days, but he was also right there as the best player in the game, and didn’t get paid to be charming. His brusqueness has seemed to mellow with time, and he has said he enjoys working with the young players. To that I say giddy the fuck up.

      Also, I was curious, so I had to go look this shit up. During Bonds 15 years with the Giants, they had winning records nine of those years (three first place finishes and six second place finishes). Also, that beauty of a ballyard was build on the back of Barry Bonds. One more thing…I love Clark. One of my all-time favorites, but Clark’s last year with the Giants was also Bond’s first. Not like they had a ton of time as team mates.

      I’m done. Next.

  20. Macdog said, on March 21, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    Two bombs by Hundley today.

  21. unca_chuck said, on March 21, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    Hey, I’m all for Bonds coming in to talk to the players. From all I’ve heard, most players not named Jeff Kent said Bonds was a nice guy in the club house.

    • Flavor said, on March 21, 2017 at 4:23 pm

      I freaking LOVED these commercials. Bummed they canceled him.

    • wilcojoe said, on March 21, 2017 at 4:53 pm

      I’ve never seen that before. That is hilarious! “Where the hell is Barry going to play.”

  22. Flavor said, on March 21, 2017 at 4:22 pm

    Andrew Baggarly‏Verified account @extrabaggs 6m6 minutes ago
    Bochy said Will Smith’s MRI showed a strain and a sprain.

  23. Flavor said, on March 21, 2017 at 4:35 pm

    Chuck– here’s an example of Olbermann. This is the one he did today. I am not an Olbermann fan btw but I like how worked up he gets by the end of them. If you don’t want to watch the entire vids, just fast forward to the last 30 seconds, it’s good comedy.

  24. alleykat69 said, on March 21, 2017 at 4:43 pm

    Think it was Willied mentioning the passing of James Cotton the other day, truly saddens me.
    Had the pleasure of seeing him live at Winterland back in 73.James Cotton Blues Band tore it up.Cotton bluesy edition of Rocket 88 on harmonica was pure joy!RIP James!
    Side note: They opened up, followed by Wishbone Ash, and to close out the powerful evening was Johnny Winter,Guess appearance by Edgar Winter& Rick Derringer! God I loved Winterland,the best of the best always rocked that place..

  25. Flavor said, on March 21, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    Voggy just got released. Hey, weirder things could happen to our #5 spot than Voggy returning to fill it…..

  26. Flavor said, on March 21, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    dumbass kid on his phone

  27. zumiee said, on March 21, 2017 at 6:20 pm

    Aoki is batting third for the Japanese team tonight. That is not awesome.

  28. zumiee said, on March 21, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    Tanner Roark is the U.S. starting pitcher tonight. Meh.

  29. wilcojoe said, on March 21, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    Why am I hearing drums and bagpipes? That’s going to get old real fast.

  30. djloo27 said, on March 21, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    I was just thinking how even during the crappy years (the Randy Winn era as I think of it), I don’t remember the Giants ever being sellers at the deadline. I could be wrong…

    • wilcojoe said, on March 21, 2017 at 6:47 pm

      The closest I can come is them trading Ray Durham. Though I don’t know if you could consider Milwaukee a “buyer” on that deal.

    • Macdog said, on March 21, 2017 at 7:07 pm

      There was no one for the other teams worth buying?

  31. zumiee said, on March 21, 2017 at 7:49 pm

    Firstbase ump doing what all firstbase umps do: they just guess on the close plays. A firstbase ump is pretty much useless. They have the worst view of the plays of anyone.

  32. zumiee said, on March 21, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    Arenado has sucked in this tourney.

  33. zumiee said, on March 21, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    Nate Jones gives up an HR.
    THE Nate Jones. Surely you’ve heard of him, right?

  34. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on March 21, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    Just about all of us Flappers said all off-season that the team MUST fix the ‘pen and the OF. One very key arm added to pen, that’s it, and nothing in the OF. Yeah, Parker will likely and should likely get the nod in LF, but lack of production from Span, even Pence, and Gorkys as well, will probably require an in-season pickup in the OF. On *my* roster, Marrero is in as 5th OFer, why not. And somehow Hwang and Dizzy should make the IF roster as well. I couldn’t believe Evans was done after signing Melancon. Maybe there’s still another plan in the works.

  35. unca_chuck said, on March 21, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    Shit, if you didn’t hear it, TFLR looks like he might need TJ surgery. His UCL is messed up. Regardless he’s out for ‘months’.

  36. unca_chuck said, on March 21, 2017 at 8:57 pm

    Soooooo, yeah, pen help is back on the table.

  37. zumiee said, on March 21, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    Arenado gets the golden sombrero. Four Ks.

  38. unca_chuck said, on March 21, 2017 at 9:08 pm

    Got to play this one. It is the BEST!!!

    • Flavor said, on March 22, 2017 at 5:42 am

      I would pin this to the front of the blog if I knew how to do that. I could have this commercial on loop 24 hours a day in every room in my house and it would be cool with me.

  39. xoot said, on March 21, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    Buster and Brandon C sure are stoked. WBCs ok this year

    • xoot said, on March 21, 2017 at 9:35 pm

      Interview with Crawford had one good moment what’s the wbc like? Well it’s not like spring training. (laughs) It’s sort of in between the regular season and the post season.

  40. djloo27 said, on March 22, 2017 at 4:47 am

    Giants have been luckier than most when it comes to their ML pitchers avoiding TJ surgery. I can’t even think of one. I believe the Beard had it in the minors…

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