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So Where Do We Go From Here

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 1, 2017

I am generally a pretty positive person. I just don’t ignore reality. I’m trying to find something to hang on to that looks like hope for the 2017 Giants season and I’m just not seeing anything realistic to grasp.

Marty Lurie likes to do a show where he has caller finish sentences. I think he does this to focus them and lessen the chances they go on some dumb fan-tangent. One of the sentences he floated yesterday: “The Giants still have a chance this year because….” One person said “because there are still 136 games left.”

Sorry, that one doesn’t work for me. That’s just a fantastic opportunity to go 36-100 the rest of the way.

In order for optimism to bloom there has to be something the team is good at. Even one thing. Let’s take a look at what we aren’t good at. It’s pretty encompassing.

  1. We are slow. We are last in the NL in SB’s with 11 and now that Nunie is jogging the bases instead of flying around like his helmet’s on fire I expect that number to sit quietly where it is.
  2. We are weak. We are last in the NL in HR’s with 16.
  3. We don’t get on base. We are 2nd to last in OBP checking in at a pathetic .289. We are ahead of only the Padres who have been kicking the shit out of us this year….
  4. We are bad at pitching. Our team ERA is 4.45. That is 10th in the NL and behind the Brewers and the Phillies. Think for a second how bad our pitching has to be to be BEHIND those 2 homer happy parks.
  5. We lead the NL in blown saves with 5. So even if we do some how luck our way into a lead we blow it.

And there you have it. There are 136 games left. How many would need to be left for us to win 90 games if these 5 points hold true? 220? 500? More?

 

 

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  1. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    Jesus. Gift is right.

  2. dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 1, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    Nunie heating up. It’d be nice to chase Kershaw this inning.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on May 1, 2017 at 8:59 pm

      I would be slightly hesitant to describe our offense as ‘heating up.’ More like a 3 on the electric stove dial.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:00 pm

        4 runs is a fucking explosion for this club.

  3. Lurker John said, on May 1, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    I can’t remember the Giants roughing up Opie like this in a long time, if ever, plus they’ve got his pitch count way up. That tee shot had to feel good to Nunie.

    • Flavor said, on May 1, 2017 at 8:56 pm

      all we had to do is laugh at the prospect of it happening and it happened. Easy.

    • James said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:00 pm

      6 IP, 3 ERs, quality start!

  4. Lurker John said, on May 1, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    A lot of good AB’s tonight, a lot of pitches fouled off.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:01 pm

      there must be an algorithim of pitches fouled off divided by runs scored times potential runs averted added to real runs imagined versus the summation of runs accumulated squared

  5. Flavor said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    all right guys, I gotta get up at 4am. Hopefully Nunie stays white hot, the Dough Boy gets another hit and That Doughy Fuck has a shutdown inning.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:02 pm

      g’night; 4am ET or PT?

  6. blade3colorado said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    Well, the Giants brain trust dropping Sergio, he of the 9 plus ERA, seems like a wise move.

    • James said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:14 pm

      7 walks in 8 innings . . . . he’s pitched whole seasons with fewer BBs. His fastball is still 86-88. I wouldn’t write him off yet.

      • James said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:17 pm

        Ok, I just checked, one season — whew.

      • blade3colorado said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:18 pm

        lulz

  7. blade3colorado said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    Frickin’ Turner.

  8. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    Kershaw was getting shittier pitches than that.

  9. willedav said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    curse of Nunez at SS strikes again.

  10. dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    Cueto’s still better than anything coming out of the pen.

    • James said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:29 pm

      Need to save the lefty for the extra innings.

  11. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    Blehhh. Shitty pitch there. Nooner started it with the E tho. This is the problem with moving guys all around the field.

    • blade3colorado said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:31 pm

      What error? They didn’t score it an error.

      • unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:33 pm

        That was the definition of an error. A Gon takes 20 seconds to get to the bag.

      • willedav said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:40 pm

        it was one hop smash from ancient Agon. Nunez had all day and couldn’t even get off a throw.
        Yesterday in 9th, same thing, dribbler he comes in on, hits him in the glove but he can’t get off a throw.
        Both times first guy up in the inning, who winds up scoring.
        Bottom line, he makes that play yesterday, Giants win.

      • blade3colorado said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:46 pm

        No problem with the one yesterday. My point is that they did NOT score it an error on the play tonight. That being said, Nunez is nothing but a utility player, that they are forced to play. When you have more crappy players than him, you have no choice but to play him.

        However, this is me talking, not Bochy . . . Knowing him, as soon as Craw is back, Nunez goes back to 3rd and Arroyo will sit.

      • willedav said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:52 pm

        yes Agon gets credit for a hit but Nunez had a good chance of getting him out imo— but rushed it needlessly and fell.
        I sincerely hope when Craw comes back Nunez is permanent back up, mostly OF.
        And I think Arroyo could handle SS…Giants have some options like Hwang and Gillaspie that would provide more offense than Nunez at 3b. I’d look into a Craw trade if I were Evans.

      • blade3colorado said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:01 pm

        Down with everything you said. However, I doubt they get rid of Crawford for this reason . . .

        Same thing for Posey and Bumgarner, i.e., they are the face of the franchise.

  12. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:33 pm

    Jesus. Nice catch by Nooner there. Yikes.

  13. pawliekokonuts said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    Way to go, Okert Winfree.

  14. willedav said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    One more reason for a Craw trade—he’s always gonna be screwed as LH at ATT. He has very average speed but gets double figure triples, go figure because those ones he crushes won’t leave the yard here as they would anywhere else.
    Give me RH guys with pop, more the better. Arroyo already has as many bombs as Craw does in his 76 ABs.

    • blade3colorado said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:03 pm

      As I said above, I wouldn’t mind it, but he isn’t going anywhere.

  15. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    Oooooooooooh boy. One clean 9th?

  16. Lurker John said, on May 1, 2017 at 9:58 pm

    Wow, no Melancon for the 9th.

  17. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    Jeeebus. That was close.

  18. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    Lefties coming up I would guess.

  19. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:02 pm

    Aaaah. Now that IS odd. Law? Does Bochy think it’s the 8th?

  20. willedav said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:03 pm

    Yeah! an L for Opie and Okert and Gomer put them away. Couple bombs too, unbelievable.
    F-Puig too, guy sucks.

  21. Macdog said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:03 pm

    A W! Okert got the real save, whatever.

  22. Lurker John said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:03 pm

    Ballgame!

  23. djloo27 said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:03 pm

    • blade3colorado said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:05 pm

      Clint?

  24. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:13 pm
    • Lurker John said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:14 pm

      lol

    • blade3colorado said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:15 pm

      Holy shit! A stix gif.

  25. blade3colorado said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:14 pm

    GH, you around or are you working overtime draining the swamp? Just wondering about your boss, Trump.

    He said that Andrew Jackson, the President with whom he has begun to claim political kinship, had strong thoughts about the Civil War — even though he died 16 years before the conflict broke out. Specifically, he said, “He was really angry that — he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War, He said, ‘There’s no reason for this.’ ”

    Earth to Trump? Come in please?

    • snarkk said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:38 pm

      The dude is a certifiable idiot…

  26. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:16 pm

  27. pawliekokonuts said, on May 1, 2017 at 10:36 pm

    Blade, where’d you get that photo of Craw as a kid? Epic.

  28. Macdog said, on May 1, 2017 at 11:01 pm

    Royals beat White Sox tonight to end a 9-game losing streak. Their last win? April 19 vs. the Giants.

  29. mrsprtdude said, on May 1, 2017 at 11:36 pm

    A quality win. Good start. A few homers, and a bullpen that held a one run lead for 2 innings. Nice.
    Trade Craw after a month? Get serious. Top 5 ss in all of baseball. Gold glover. What happened to you guys??
    Arroya hopefully will be good, but stick him at 3rd and play our homegrown if 5 for a few years more…
    PS How much money in a bar bet Strick would finish april with era of 00

  30. willedav said, on May 2, 2017 at 12:13 am

    If you can’t trade Craw, who will be 31 next year and more than likely see the D begin to slide along with O as his salary increases, then Belt has to go. The Giants are NOT fixing the OF by trading Nunez Span or anyone else.
    It’s Belt by default to bring in what the minors cannot—a legit every day player for the OF that can hit for average and some power and he has to bat RH. Other than a cheap controllable pitching prospect like a Beede (absolute NO), who else can Giants deal and expect to bring back an OF of quality?

    . Anyone else notice how teams load up with LHP vs. Giants, even out of the pen? With Span or Parker in LU there’s 4 LHs in there every day. That can’t last, because ATT will drive down their production. And you can’t keep running Gorkys and Stubbs out there either because they are all glove and zero offense.

    1b can be filled by dang near any RH bat including Posey in a year or two. Yes there will be a defensive drop off, but what could be gained at the plate I can see making up for it. Morse seems fine for right now–he hit the hardest ball all game yesterday, line shot off the wall to RF.

    Look who beat Opie, Giants long time nemesis, tonite—no Craw no Belt no Gillaspie no Span/Parker. HRs from Posey and Pence and good ABs from Arroyo and even Nunez and Gorkys.

  31. djloo27 said, on May 2, 2017 at 4:58 am

    It’s hard to make trades even if you want to, especially if you’re trying to move a long term contract. Even in their down years, the Giants have never really been sellers. I may not agree with it, but I guess the strategy with just 1/6th of the season gone is to hang tough, get everyone healthy, and as usual try to fill their needs at the deadline if they’re somehow within striking distance. Otherwise, it’s just wait till next year…

  32. blade3colorado said, on May 2, 2017 at 6:30 am

    Paul, the Crawford kid photo has been publicized in the bay area since he came up, especially by the Giants. Again, as I said earlier, they will NEVER deal him (until it’s too late and he has zero value). Same deal with Posey and Bumgarner. “Faces Of The Franchise” types are NEVER dealt until it is too late.


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