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Losing in Ohio(!), Winning in Louisville?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 6, 2017

The Reds aren’t very good but as I said in the last two main threads, we were doomed to have trouble with them. They have speed and they have power, two things that elude us. Plus they know how to play in that park. And walking them 12 times? Sorry, but that is just pitching scared, pure and simple.

Derby Day. I have a fairly sizable outcome from the futures if Irish War Cry wins. So while the masses play him at what I think might be the post time favorite, I have him locked in at significantly higher odds. I also really like Thunder Snow. Who you like Trotter? Who you like?????

What a day this is. Favorite day of the year…..

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  1. Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 7:45 am

    these just never get old.

    • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 11:17 am

      I personally remember that one.
      It sucked…

      • alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 11:28 am

        Never felt I was in Hawaii eating that pile of crap..
        I only could barely muscle down the chicken one with the apple cobbler lol 😂

    • Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 3:30 pm

      LOL

  2. willedav said, on May 6, 2017 at 8:41 am

    When I first started playing a lot of softball late ’70s I wore 3 ring Pirates hat backwards, ran well and was pretty skinny (25 lbs ago)…so my buddies called me Omar.
    I always dug guys like that who could outrun a ball even if they didn’t judge it properly and terrorize basepaths.

    Today tho they all seem to have less value, primary reason being they don’t hit well enough for the speed to make a noticeable impact on runs scored. Fowler is hitting .225 for the Cards and I’d be surprised he comes anywhere near last year numbers, for avg power and OPS. And you have to wonder given how he is doing so far if he’d have changed Giants record much if at all.

    Jury is still out on whether Hamilton will be a better hitter than what his career of under .250 in 3 years/1500 ABs has been or if he goes the way of the once feared Michael Bourn

  3. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 8:44 am

    Literally the only way I ever know the Kentucky Derby is coming up is when it’s talked about on the Flap. Horse-racing is far off my radar. 🙂

    Today is the 80th anniversary of the Hindenburg disaster. Giants fans can make their own analogies to this season.

    • Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 9:04 am

      that could be my tickets at the end of the day. We’ll see!

    • djloo27 said, on May 6, 2017 at 11:25 am

      And life went on the next day as War Admiral kicked off his Triple Crown by winning the Derby.
      And happy 86th, Willie Mays. He was 31 the first time I laid eyes on him…

      • zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 12:01 pm

        It’s too bad so little baseball TV footage was saved from the ’60s. The networks just didn’t understand the historical treasure trove they had.

    • Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 3:32 pm

      Still a spectacular sight, to this day. The power of the hydrogen atom at work.

  4. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on May 6, 2017 at 10:02 am

    Agree, WillieD, who knows. You said “… you have to wonder given how he (Fowler) is doing so far if he’d have changed Giants record much if at all”, and the answer is probably not much. But also have to wonder how he would be doing so far as a Giant. Could be a completely different player (better or worse, really), but who knows. I would still take him over any of the team’s current options in CF and LF.

  5. snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 11:23 am

    I’ll have to make a mint julep today in honor of Derby Day.
    I actually think of horses once a month.
    When Mrs. snarkk tells me she’s cutting a check for the older snarkkette’s never ending riding lessons.
    Nowadays, this snarkkette talks to the nags more than to me.

    But, BF, you bet on futures? I thought futures were available only on the stock market and Bordeaux wine.
    So, I’m hoping your steed comes in first and it’s Ka-Ching ! for you !…

  6. djloo27 said, on May 6, 2017 at 11:27 am

    Good luck, Flavor. I never had so little interest in a KYD. I’ll root for you…

  7. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    The Giants brought up Ruggiano, but I didn’t catch who’s getting sent down.

    • Macdog said, on May 6, 2017 at 12:19 pm

      Stubbs DFA’d.

      • djloo27 said, on May 6, 2017 at 12:20 pm

        He went from DOA to DFA…

      • zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 12:21 pm

        Stubbs couldn’t stick with this outfield. He’s gotta ponder that.

      • Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 12:21 pm

        Stubbs was a hologram of a hologram…

  8. snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 12:36 pm

    This is pretty ludicrous, when you step back and think about it.
    A top 5 revenue MLB team, claiming hundreds of sellouts in a row, is running AAAA and has-been OFers in and out to see if any of these stiffs can actually play. This is not spring training, these are real games pretty early on. The season is on the line.
    Next DFA candidate — Ruggiano. I thought that was cheese.
    This is a straight-on ClusterF by Giants management — it should be begging fans for forgiveness…

    • Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 3:34 pm

      LOL. Yeah, a smelly limburger cheese more than likely.

  9. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 12:44 pm

    Ruggiano is 34 years old. Yikes.
    Have we hit the bottom of the dumpster yet?

  10. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 12:49 pm

    “Yeah,” Evans said when asked by Brian Murphy if there was a miscalculation. “I mean we certainly didn’t count on (Jarrett) Parker getting hurt and his rough start wasn’t good either. At the same time I don’t think that left field is probably my biggest concern. I think that overall I want to see the veterans of our lineup producing at a level that allows left field to evolve and hopefully get a Parker back eventually. But miscalculate is probably a fair assessment. I think that I was hoping our guys would do more around left field so that even if the left fielder is a player that’s going to struggle, that we would have enough offense everywhere else to cover for it.”

    • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 1:10 pm

      Can only blame injuries so much. They sucked at the start when the outfield was healthy. If you don’t have OFers in the minors who at least aren’t an embarrassment to cover a few injuries at the big team, but have to rely on scrap-heap pseudo MLB ex players, then WTF are you doing as an organization? You have to KNOW that some of these OFers are going to be hurt. We all here knew these stiffs like Stubbs, Marrerro, now Parmesano will last only until their stats and play are too horrendous to stomach anymore. Them coming up thru the swinging gate means that NONE of the young OFers down on the farm at AAA an AA other than Mac and Parker are worthy of a shot? How is that even possible?…

  11. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    “Ruggiano. I thought that was cheese.”

    He is.

  12. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 1:04 pm

    The Yankees drafted Aaron Judge with the 32nd pick in the ’13 draft. Every other team passed on him. The Giants picked Arroyo with the 18th pick, and that looks to be a solid pick. Kris Bryant was the 2nd pick.
    But a lot of other teams really whiffed on that.
    To be fair, Judge wasn’t looking that good last year.
    I know drafting is a difficult thing.

  13. snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 1:29 pm

    Not sure whether I’m sickened by or intrigued about the Kentucky Derby…
    https://tinyurl.com/mvu4ltm

    • zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 2:35 pm

      Looks like those rich people need a tax cut.

  14. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    Meanwhile OF Darren Ford is playing for the Jackalopes in the northern reaches of North Dakota! On the Giants radar if radar reaches that area..

    • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 1:55 pm

      At least he’d make outs faster…

    • Macdog said, on May 6, 2017 at 2:21 pm

      Ford currently plays for the Somerset Patriots in New Jersey.

  15. djloo27 said, on May 6, 2017 at 2:17 pm

    2B Kelby Tomlinson (R)
    1B Brandon Belt (L)
    RF Hunter Pence (R)
    C Buster Posey (R)
    3B Chritian Arroyo (R)
    LF Justin Ruggiano (R)
    SS Eduardo Nunez (R)
    CF Gorkys Hernandez (R)
    P Ty Blach (R)

    • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 2:31 pm

      Murdered Row…

      • djloo27 said, on May 6, 2017 at 2:33 pm

        The Big Dead Machine…

      • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 2:51 pm

        Live and Let Down…

    • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 2:47 pm

      Eight’s Not Enough….

    • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 2:50 pm

      Have Popguns, Will Unravel…

      • Macdog said, on May 6, 2017 at 2:58 pm

        WKRAP in Cincinnati.

      • djloo27 said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:22 pm

        The Squid From Left Field…

    • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 3:01 pm

      The Young and the Listless…

  16. Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    You guys are on today, well done. Ok, go IWC, if he can’t win let’s see thunder snow storm home the winner. really tho, there are 12 horses that have a shot. And watch it be won by one of the other 8. Ba ha.

    • Macdog said, on May 6, 2017 at 3:13 pm

      That’s Jersey-bred IWC, I’m pulling for ya!

      • Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 3:23 pm

        I bet that fucker back in December when he was 100-1. Now he’s the derby fav. I take great pride in my handicapping skills regardless of the outcome. Loo will tell ya, that ain’t easy to do

      • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 3:37 pm

        I assume you put more than $10 on this one?…

  17. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    Since I’m Irish ☘️I have to with Irish War Cry all the way to the winners circle!
    Second place in a real eye opener since the horse 🐴 is missing it’s left eye I have to with Patch, what a great story that would be to try and get the win down the stretch, but since it’s his left eye not sure 🤔 if he can sense if Irish 🍀 War Cry is on the rail are not..
    Ohh muddy track that could hamper Patch more, what if a shit load of mud flies into his right eye and then he’s basically running blind?Hmmm

  18. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 3:56 pm

    Wow the favorite actually won!
    Always Dreaming nice ride🐎🐎🐎on the rail!!!

  19. wilcojoe said, on May 6, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    Is that six years in a row now for the favorite?

    • djloo27 said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:05 pm

      I think 5, WJ…

  20. wilcojoe said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    So much for the longshots in the mud. I had a little bit of money on each of the horses 20-1 and above.

  21. xoot said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:09 pm

    C e Morgan’s novel The Sport of Kings depicts two KY derbies from the insider’s view. Both are great. At the end of one the track was so muddy spectators couldn’t tell who won until the African American jockey exulted in his signature way. The other derby, early in the book, is so unsettling one main character, an owner, stumbles into the VIP parking lot afterward and has trouble finding his car amid the huge school of silver Mercedes sedans. Helluva book.

  22. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:21 pm

    That didn’t take long, 4 pitches into the game and down 1-zip..

  23. djloo27 said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    Baldy’s boy strikes again…

  24. Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    Duvall has to be loving this shit.

  25. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    Make that 2-zippo on a bomb.
    Thank you Courtesy of x-Giant Adam Duvall who of course management decided he stunk with little power are future to help the club..

  26. snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    Hey, down only 2-0 in the first, things are looking up…

  27. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    The Giants wouldn’t try Duvall in leftfield because they believe leftfield is rocket science, and must be taught in a process lasting years.

  28. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:30 pm

    Buster might be the lone Giants All-Star Game member this season.

  29. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:33 pm

    Arroyo got a haircut. It has to be an improvement.

  30. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    Geez a Gorkys clone!

  31. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    Rough night for the Reds’ RF.

  32. djloo27 said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    Tremendous catch by all-world Hamilton off all-knowing Nunie. He made it look easy. That thing was scorched…

  33. djloo27 said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:39 pm

    Gorky is a no tool player…

  34. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    Wanna get away 🚶 that Reds Right fielder must feel like that right now.
    Oh great base running by Dorky Hernandez there! Can anyone play this game the right way anymore???

  35. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    Gorkys….(face-palm)

  36. snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:42 pm

    After Ruggiano, in the minors they have:
    Mike Manchego
    Lim Burger
    Frank Fontina
    Brock Wurst…

    • alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:56 pm

      I can go with a Brock Wurst and a pint 🍻 over that Polynesian Swanson Dinner anytime Snarkk..

  37. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:43 pm

    Everybody has the yips in this game..

  38. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:52 pm

    2 unearned runs so far. Should be 3 outs.

    • Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:54 pm

      Yes, because, why, Panik needed to rest against the left hander? Tomlinson has made plenty of these kinds of errors in the past.

  39. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    Hamilton is fucking terrorizing the Giants!!!

  40. Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    These guys make the Keystone Kops look as serious as a heart attack. What a clusterfuck.

  41. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:00 pm

    For the first time in decades…..a Yankees team that I actually like. They’re a fun story.

  42. djloo27 said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    I’m about ready to take the 3 titles and last year’s WC game and pack it in…

    • willedav said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:32 pm

      I’m with you. I’d rather watch about anything else esp while playoffs are on in two sports.

    • Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:41 pm

      don’t pack it in. Just don’t spend any $$$ on tix to see them and only watch when it’s convenient. That’s what I’m doing…..

  43. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    Only the derby 🐎 winner has good dreams.
    The Giants are “Always Dreaming” about ever winning in Cincinnati..

  44. Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:04 pm

    This is fucking bullshit. Some heads better to roll, and soon.

    • alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:20 pm

      Like the guy in the tower in TopGun LJ,
      after Maverick &Goose do their illegal buzz the tower, the guy screams out “I WANT BUTTS” as he leaves a door and bumps into another dude who spills a coffee all over him. Goddamitt I want BUTTS!!

  45. Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    well, the Derby was a letdown….
    Have we gotten Billy Ham out yet? But we don’t want him on our team cause he sucks, right? No place for a guy like Billy Ham on our team, right?

    • Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:37 pm

      He’d be consumed by the black void if he became a Giant.

  46. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    Ok I’ve seen enough of this pile of steaming shit😡!! Jimmy Davenport might be smiling in his grave knowing this squad might break his record of losses in futility..

  47. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    I’ve resorted to watch “The Rifleman”reruns, far more entertaining then the Giants..

  48. Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:28 pm

    I’m only following this game via boxscore but why is Bochy leaving Blach in this game? If Blach wonders what the brass thinks of him….well, he just shouldn’t wonder anymore….

  49. snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    I was just in the brew pub talking at the bar with a younger woman with strawberry colored hair. She wanted the Dubs to lose tonight. Why? Because, she has season tix, and if they lose tonight, they’ll have a game 5 and she can sell her tix and make some money. Season tix holders have the first two rounds of playoffs included, then the next round(s) they have first shot at their tix, but have to pay up. I did not know that. So, lotsa season tix holders sell their first/second rounders to pay for seats for the conference final and finals…

    • Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:37 pm

      these NBA playoff games have been a snooze fest. Every game is a blow out. But I will watch this game will a thousand yard stare and a ear to ear smile on my face as long as I don’t have to watch the Giants play in Ohio anymore. The Reds are exposing all our weaknesses. No power and no speed can’t hang with a team like the Reds in their yard….
      Maybe Sabean wakes up and trades a reasonable package to Cinn for Billy Ham. He wouldn’t change our season but he’d make the team infinitely more interesting to watch, right?

      • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:39 pm

        Giants have no energy, no speed, no power, nada. I think Bochy and his management need to be replaced next season, and start fresh with as many minor league dudes can make it on the roster. The string has run. Cueto surely has to be traded at the deadline for prospects. They are getting real close to the point of pissing this season away…

      • Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:42 pm

        Shit, snarkk, I thought they already passed that point.

      • Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:43 pm

        Trading Cueto should be a no brainer but I wonder what his no-trade option is? Did he work that into his deal? We need to trade him for something tho, before he opts out or, worse, decides to stay……

  50. Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    BF, the Derby may have been a letdown for you hardcore horse racing guys, but I always like watching the ponies run. About the only time all year I watch is the Derby

    • Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:42 pm

      it was a letdown cause I lost but I never take a Derby for granted and love every second of it.

      • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:43 pm

        If U love it that much, some year you should go, if you haven’t already…

      • Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:44 pm

        I’ve been to Keenland, it was incredible. This is going to sound silly, but I made a pact with my best friend when we were 12 that our first trip to the Derby would be when we have a horse running in it (that we own). That’s unlikely but the dream needs to stay in tact…..

      • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 8:56 pm

        Great dream.
        Don’t wait too long to get it done…

    • Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:45 pm

      I get that, just saying watching thoroughbreds run for me is always a treat. I really don’t know squat about it beyond that.

      • Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:46 pm

        I guess you like to gamble on the horses?

      • Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:48 pm

        Disregard my 5:45, I misread your post.

  51. Lurker John said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    13-3 yesterday, 11-2 in the 5th today. WTF.

  52. Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:51 pm

  53. wilcojoe said, on May 6, 2017 at 5:57 pm

    Ownership better be praying that the market doesn’t take an epic dump in the next year. A thriving Bay Area economy is the only thing that will keep people coming to the yard. Even that may not be enough with this shit fest.

  54. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 6:11 pm

    Just don’t buy a nag BF, it would remind me too much of the Giants!

  55. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    “don’t pack it in. Just don’t spend any $$$ on tix to see them”

    Oops. I already bought some tickets for July.
    The Giants might be 20 games out by then.

  56. Macdog said, on May 6, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    I’m still going to Wednesday’s game. It beats being at work, at least that’s what I keep telling myself.

    • zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 6:34 pm

      I do totally agree. I’ll still enjoy a trip to the ballyard in July.

  57. Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    I love Draymond but he needs to SHUT THE FUCK UP

    • alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 7:09 pm

      Kinda like Jeremy Alfedt in the booth. But to his credit he heard the heat from fans and others and has toned it down.Even mentioned on air I believe that I rambled on too long! No shit Maynard!
      Besides lately why speak at all? theirs little to no excitement to get the vocal chords moving like a “Teddy Rupkin bear 🐻 “

  58. Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    Parmesan Cheese did get a walk today. Not bad for one of our outfielders.

  59. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    I pity those guys doing the hour-long post-game show.

    • Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 7:20 pm

      I honestly don’t know how Marty Lurie gets through these shows. He goes FOREVER taking the same idiot callers saying the same dumb things who are coming up with the same inane ideas. Look, the Giants stink. In all facets of the game, they stink. This isn’t too hard to figure out and you certainly don’t need to call up a radio show with your “take.” There is no quick fix here.

  60. alleykat69 said, on May 6, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    Zumie your 8:44 post of “The Hindenburg” is spot on for today’s latest disaster!!🔥🚀

    • Flavor said, on May 6, 2017 at 7:18 pm

      pretty spot on for my derby tix, too

  61. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 7:45 pm

    The radio pregame show was good. With Laskey and Blue, I think it was Mike LaCoss. They kept referring to him as Mike, and he was on the Giants in the mid to late ’80s. He was hilarious, laugh out-loud funny. I was driving around, laughing, probably looking insane to other drivers.

    • snarkk said, on May 6, 2017 at 8:59 pm

      It was LaCoss. “Buffy”.
      He was hilarious. They could not shut him up, but I didn’t want him to shut up.
      Need to get him on again.
      That story of how he hit Will Clark in the elbow in Spring Training — he had no clue why all the fuss ensued — was very funny…

      • djloo27 said, on May 6, 2017 at 9:30 pm

        Great nickname but I dreaded his starts…

  62. zumiee said, on May 6, 2017 at 11:33 pm

    Tim Flannery posted this on Facebook tonight. I guess he felt the need to defend this year’s team. And he may have downed a few adult beverages before writing it. He always wears his heart on his sleeve on his Facebook posts, and sometimes gets mixed reactions from people. I always appreciate his passion. The photo he posted was of his hand, wearing all 3 championship rings.
    “Ok…I’m crazy tonight, but I have something to say. In 2007 we were asked to come to San Francisco to create a team. I left everything my family, my job, everything to sleep on someone’s floor in the fog to believe we could put something together to win. After all the Giants had been in San Francisco for 56 years and never won. So after developing an environment for a team to grow, we become tough, 7 elimination games, 3 World Championships, amazing energy, amazing run…it takes its toll. I had to retire I gave everything I had. We must have made it look easy, when it’s demanded every even year. If it was that easy why didn’t you demand it in those 56 years when it was never done? All you needed was to yell and demand?

    Where’s Lincecum? The list goes on and on, the names will go down in history , the teams will go down in history, you can’t take that away, but to think there was this magic formula we tapped into to make it happen is absurd. We had 3 magic sacred seasons that the gods of baseball let it happen. Yell all you want, demand all you want, name your rats and dogs Buster, we won because it was our time, not because you screamed and demanded. It might happen again, it might not, the Cubs had even Year magic..1908…. it’s that fucking hard. So enjoy the game, enjoy transition, players who come and go, teams that win and lose, players you will never forget, some you can’t wait to forget, I hear fans screaming at this team, ” we can’t stand it”, my thought always is ” you should try it for a living, “it’s killed friends of mine I had to bury, the game is a beast. This might not be your favorite team, but it’s a beautiful sacred game, and you all got to see 3 World Championships. It takes new players, scouting , development , time…because ” time changes everything”. Go Giants ,with you no matter what.”


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