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Phinal Game in Philly

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 4, 2017

Our battle for last place with San Diego continues to rivet and amaze. You can’t shine a flashlight between us. Two dynasties, battling to the wire.

At least we aren’t getting no-hit. That’s the worst, isn’t it? How did Volquez shut down that Snake offense? I didn’t see that coming.

In other news, Pujols hit #600 and he did it in *grand* fashion. Finally Arte is getting something for his money. He only owes him another 114 million….

Warriors tonight. After the underwhelming Hellickson shuts us down, NBA will be a nice pick me up.

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  1. zumiee said, on June 4, 2017 at 7:54 am

    It was quite a day in baseball yesterday. The no-hitter, and Pujols punched his Hall of Fame ticket. And there were seven grand slams, a one-day MLB record.

  2. wilcojoe said, on June 4, 2017 at 8:10 am

    I think I heard that was the Marlins 6th no hitter in their short franchise history. That seems unreal to me.

    • willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 8:19 am

      not to mention 2 titles since Dodgers have won any. I think that Bour guy at 1b has 15 HRs, unreal

    • willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 8:54 am

      I know he’s a HOF, but enduring memory of Pudge holding ball up after tagging out J T on the throw from Conine the barbarian still bugs me.

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 4, 2017 at 9:12 am

        Agree, and from what I remember, I couldn’t believe Alou hadn’t pinch run for Snow, with a couple speed guys on the bench…. a “John McNamara moment” keeping Buckner in at 1st base in ’86…..

  3. alleykat69 said, on June 4, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Wilco,
    Damm does those Astros ever lose a game’?
    Quite an impressive run so far beating up on everyone! Years of futility is finally paying off with good draft picks that produce are a few key acquisitions as well..

    • wilcojoe said, on June 4, 2017 at 9:38 am

      They are a fun to watch to boot. The most enjoyable team (regular season) I have followed since the ’93 Giants. They still need a legit #3 starter and I do think their lack of starting pitching (due to injuries to McHugh, Morton and Musgrove) will slow them down a bit. Cueto can’t get here soon enough 😉

  4. willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 8:41 am

    shuffling of deck chairs to continue: Pence about to be activated maybe even today, gameface soon too. Mrs. Gameface about to deliver a baby so he’s back in SF. Bochy did mention it’s tough without him to PH as LH if Span Panik Craw Belt are already in the game. Arroyo supposed to be one of casualties, Nunez back to 3b Calixte and Slater to share LF. I think both played some CF in Sac…

    Meanwhile, Hwang HR and sac fly as Sac wins. Since May 22 he has 9 XBHs, 3 each double triple HR batting .278 played 1b last night. hmmnn what are the waiting for?
    Jones had triple and HR in the 7-5 W, played 3b.
    Beede iit up again for 8 hits 5 earned in 6, ERA 4.28
    Oh, and Crick got the save with scoreless 9th, his 6. If Strick or someone else goes, he next?

  5. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 4, 2017 at 9:10 am

    Crick for Strick, sounds good. And also would greatly welcome Hwang for … um… dang, just about any of the dang dead weight…

  6. djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 9:19 am

    I’m looking forward to seeing a definitive list of contending teams needs along with their top prospects so we can start formulating some realistic deals here…

    • wilcojoe said, on June 4, 2017 at 9:52 am

      There was an article in today’s Houston Chronicle about the ‘Stros #3 prospect (#74 in MLB) an OF named Derek Fisher. I guess he is tearing it up in AAA. He is blocked by their #3 prospect (#23 in MLB), also an OF named Kyle Tucker. Problem is their current OF is so full that even Jake Marisnick (a premier defender with some pop) can’t get enough AB’s.

      Too bad they can’t find a good trade partner for all of those outfielders.

  7. djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 9:41 am

    I wonder if the Giants and Dodgers ever talk trades.
    The rivalry is not exactly red hot these days…

    • djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 9:49 am

      I had thought Candy for Trevino was the last one, but research shows that in 2007 Mark Sweeney was shipped to LA for a PTBNL who turned out to be Travis Denker…

    • xoot said, on June 4, 2017 at 1:59 pm

      I bet the bums would get rid of Puig cheaply. $9 M salary now, arb for 2019. By comparison, Span’s guaranteed over $11M through 2019.

  8. unca_chuck said, on June 4, 2017 at 9:57 am

    Belt and a yeti for any one of those prospects. Or 2.

  9. unca_chuck said, on June 4, 2017 at 9:58 am

    Huh? Cueto becomes yeti to autospell?

    • Lurker John said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:20 am

      You can turn that off.

  10. willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 10:04 am

    hmmnn Sunday getaway LU:

    Span CF
    Nunez 3b
    Belt LF
    Posey 1b
    Crawford SS
    Hundley C
    Panik 2b
    Calixte RF
    Moore SP

    • djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 10:08 am

      Not the usual Sunday forfeit group.
      I was expecting a Gorky – Slater – Calixte outfield…

    • willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 10:29 am

      right Loo. I read somewhere (Baggs I think) Giants will face 6 RHPs in a row, so all the LHs should be in there and no gorks yada yada. Still nothing on Pence in Arroyo out?

  11. wilcojoe said, on June 4, 2017 at 10:06 am

    I found an article the USA Today did this week (on my phone so I can’t post it) but they listed the top 25 potential trade deadline targets. No Giants were on the list. From a starting pitching perspective they mention Santana (Twins won’t deal him since they are contending), Archer (not likely to be moved), Quintana, Vargas, Gray, Cobb and possibly Gerrit Cole.

    Assuming Santana and Archer aren’t moved, if I am a contending team, I would take Cueto over all of those guys.

  12. wilcojoe said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:00 am

    Any trade value Matt Moore might have had to begin the season has taken a gigantic dump. What a POS!

  13. wilcojoe said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:02 am

    I went in heavy on a $50 tournament with Moore as my SP2. What a mistake.

    • willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:08 am

      mm didn’t look like he got a lot of help from OF. Calixte misread Herrera rocket and Span just out of reach Kendrick blast. they hit some rockets in first themselves, so maybe they can rough up Hellickson and get Moore a W.

  14. willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:18 am

    Oh F Lopez just warned about first pitch and there it goes.

  15. Macdog said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:23 am

    Moore serving up that Galvis HR won someone from Pennsauken NJ $100 in a Phillies Home Run Jackpot thing.

  16. unca_chuck said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:24 am

    Storage Wars is looking pretty good right now. Lopez compliments Moore on a 2-2 curveball out of the strike zone that Hellickson (!) didn’t swing at for a ball. I guess you have to look for the good somewhere.

  17. unca_chuck said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:25 am

    Moore is playing himself out of the rotation. Belt with a ‘look what I found’ moment.

  18. sandog said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:27 am

    My look-alike for Callixte is the Wesley Snipes character from “The Fan.” Kind of a weird call as I never actually saw that movie.

    • wilcojoe said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:51 am

      Serious? That’s a must see for any Giants fan. I am sure it got terrible reviews but I thought DeNiro was terrific. The acting around him was abysmal, especially the ever annoying John Leguizamo and an extremely dull Ellen Barkin. Benicio Del Torro as the “Pedro Felizish” Juan Primo. Snipes, was obviously a Bondsian rip off, but he made the role enjoyable.

      Fun fact: Jack Black plays a very minor part as a KNBR producer in one of his earlier big screen roles.

      • djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 12:02 pm

        I’ve always thought of Primo as a Latino Jeff Kent…

      • wilcojoe said, on June 4, 2017 at 12:29 pm

        In terms of the internal rivalry between the two teammates, you’re right Loo. I just always thought Pedro Feliz somewhat resembled Juan Primo.

      • sandog said, on June 4, 2017 at 12:39 pm

        Ok, you guys have hooked me. I will check it out.

      • djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 12:57 pm

        It is a must-see for a Giant fan, San Dog, but except for a couple of good moments it is an absolutely awful movie…

  19. willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:30 am

    Moore has now given up 30 earned in 32 road innings.
    ERA at home in 35 is 2.57. Guy is a vet, came from tampa where he had to pitch in Fenway Camden Yard yankee and blue jay stadiums in that division. wtf is wrong with this guy?

    • djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:43 am

      Pence/Arroyo is done, Willie.
      Phillie announcers raving about Nevin as a future manager…

      • Macdog said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:56 am

        Also found out from these guys Nevin was an expert sign stealer as a batter.

  20. snarkk said, on June 4, 2017 at 11:54 am

    On pre-game Bochy, he said they activated Pence and he arrived very late last night, so they aren’t going to play him today, but sent Arroyo back down. What? So, you fly a guy across country on a red eye, but don’t play him by choice, so now you’re down one player to the oppo? Does that make any sense? Why not just fly him to Milwaukee for tomorrow’s game, and Arroyo stays today to keep the roster full at 25?…

    • Flavor said, on June 4, 2017 at 12:04 pm

      Lurie said he was tired from multiple plane trips or some shit.

    • djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 12:04 pm

      Phillie announcers said Captain Video is available to PH…

  21. Macdog said, on June 4, 2017 at 12:02 pm

    Giants no longer playing down to level of competition, they’re already there.

  22. Flavor said, on June 4, 2017 at 12:30 pm

    bullpen entry this early? This game gonna get ugly. Matt Moore sucks.

    • wilcojoe said, on June 4, 2017 at 12:33 pm

      Yeah, that POS is probably going to cost me some money. -1.80 pts on DK. Had he given me just a mediocre start, I would easily be in the money.

  23. willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    compost. gotta go.

  24. djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    When Gearrin is on, he may have the best stuff in the pen, if not the whole team.
    Trouble is he usually ain’t on…

  25. willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    just me or is Kuiper way more into it with Lopez doing game with him? Just sounds more enthusiastic and interactive. I mean this is June game with 2 crummy teams trying to give the game away to each other.

  26. snarkk said, on June 4, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    OK, so Giants Pen is in, look out…

  27. willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    wow fundamental f-up by the kid. never raise the bat angle on a bunt right? argggh

  28. djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    The Doughy Fuck strikes again…

    • djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 1:52 pm

      and again…

  29. zumiee said, on June 4, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    Willie, I agree about Kuiper. What I think happened this series is that Javy doesn’t talk as much as Krukow or Affeldt, so Kuiper is in radio mode on TV this weekend. Kuiper is more energetic on radio.

  30. djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    What are you waiting for Mac?
    Law-ful!

  31. willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    Friday morning I mentioned that Herrera Franco and Galvis weren’t hitting much.
    Here’s Flav’s response at 8:01:

    “You watch. These guys will wake up against us.”

    Dude all props these guys have killed Giants last 2 days.

  32. snarkk said, on June 4, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    Battle of bad Pens, looks so far like Giants win for the “worser” prize …

  33. snarkk said, on June 4, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    Giants are really testing my love of baseball this season. Truly a bad ball club since mid last season. Can’t score, get pitching. Score a lot, even with HRs, can’t pitch. Bad baserunning, fast dudes that don’t seem to know how to bunt, often and weirdly unable to score a decently speedy dude from second on a single — they pretty much cover all the bases of Bad…

  34. wilcojoe said, on June 4, 2017 at 2:11 pm

    Stix picked a good time to be incarcerated.

    • xoot said, on June 4, 2017 at 2:17 pm

      His trial, in federal court in Duluth, is scheduled to begin three weeks from tomorrow.

    • Flavor said, on June 4, 2017 at 5:17 pm

      lol, so true. Who knows, maybe he gets off on some technicality although I guess that’s a longshot. I know nothing about stuff like this.

  35. snarkk said, on June 4, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    Phills had lost 10 straight series — until the pitiful Giants rolled into town. What positive can we get out of this lost season?…

    • zumiee said, on June 4, 2017 at 2:23 pm

      Blach.

  36. xoot said, on June 4, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    Execrable. Just the worst. Club level seats will be cheap on stubhub this summer, and there will be a lot of elbow room, too

    • zumiee said, on June 4, 2017 at 2:25 pm

      The Giants ticket market in the second half last season crashed like the ’29 stock market.

  37. snarkk said, on June 4, 2017 at 2:24 pm

    At current course and speed, Giants headed for 64-98…

  38. snarkk said, on June 4, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    Shocking.
    Post-game gab, Kuip and Flemm complimenting Belt on his defense and baserunning…

    • willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 3:09 pm

      certainly not on the game ending K on pitch in the dirt and the pop ups. I’m disappointed he hasn’t used left side of diamond more vs. the shift. they had it on while he was up with bases loaded and he wouldn’t chase outside pitch and wound up with a walk and rbi. but, as either Kuip or Lopez said, base hit that way into wide open spaces where D isn’t might have scored 2.

      Like to see him show he’s a better hitter than .238. Looking at original LUs he had more HRs than any Phil, but 4 of them had more rbis…and Phils are dead last in runs scored and OPS.

  39. zumiee said, on June 4, 2017 at 3:18 pm

    The Dodgers lost, that’s something.

    • djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 4:32 pm

      If your Colorado or Arizona it is…

  40. zumiee said, on June 4, 2017 at 3:45 pm

    A slight criticism of Lopez, to help make him a better broadcaster- he needs to stop calling a 2-1 count a “cripple count.” He did that all weekend, and it was a little off-putting, IMO. I’m not trying to be the political-correctness police, but I think he needs to stop doing that. Some ballplayer phrases just don’t work in the broadcast booth.

    • djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 4:32 pm

      I’ve been hearing the term “cripple count” forever and I still don’t even know what it means…

    • Flavor said, on June 4, 2017 at 5:15 pm

      agreed

    • Lurker John said, on June 4, 2017 at 7:17 pm

      The word cripple does actually have meaning beyond whatever limits the PC crowd has assigned to it. I see no problem with it at all.

  41. unca_chuck said, on June 4, 2017 at 4:33 pm

    The thing that struck me about ‘The Fan’ is how terrible the baseball shots were.

    The game? At least they lost excitingly…

  42. unca_chuck said, on June 4, 2017 at 4:35 pm

    Steve Kerr is coaching for the rest of the series. At least health willing. He’s coaching tonight anyway.

  43. unca_chuck said, on June 4, 2017 at 4:36 pm

    Not crazy about this decision. They should just let him get healthy. But what do I know?

    • djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 4:46 pm

      Hey Chuck, did you see the Chiefs cut Maclin?

    • unca_chuck said, on June 4, 2017 at 9:32 pm

      Yup. Not too bad. We could have used him 2 years ago.

  44. willedav said, on June 4, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    Snarkk I would say one positive is some of the bats woke up a bit (in 2 of the games they produced 17 runs, only winning one of course) Span Nunez Craw. Span hit a couple long outs today pretty hard and was on base a lot this series, Nunez with the big double Friday and HR today, Craw driving ball to left side for HR.
    Still have to get a few others to hit, and next venue is another where Giants are going to have to score more often to win.

  45. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 4, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    MLB post-game story, referring to potential solutions to the team’s “challenges”, quotes Bochy: “We’ve had meetings…. I got nothing.” On many levels, so it seems.

    • djloo27 said, on June 4, 2017 at 7:17 pm

      Sounds like a beaten man. Maybe time to go.
      If they’re not brilliant or lucky at the deadline we could be looking at many sad seasons ahead…

      • Flavor said, on June 4, 2017 at 7:47 pm

        i don’t know about *many* sad seasons ahead. They still have a good core infield and Posey at catcher. They have Bumgarner. It’s not a full rebuild

  46. zumiee said, on June 4, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    Green, what a frustrating player, at times. Terrible foul to get his 4th foul, and then he acts miffed about the foul call. You get the sense that the Cavs know they can pull his chain.

  47. xoot said, on June 4, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    Dramond’s cooler this year than he was last year. I think he learned his lesson. Steve Kerr can barely sit in the chair to answer questions in the post-game press conference. He’s in serious pain.

  48. Flavor said, on June 4, 2017 at 8:35 pm

  49. zumiee said, on June 4, 2017 at 10:13 pm

    “The word cripple does actually have meaning beyond whatever limits the PC crowd has assigned to it. I see no problem with it at all.”

    Some people with physical disabilities consider the word “cripple” a slur, and I’m guessing some of them find the word painful no matter what context it’s being used in. The same way many little people don’t like the word “midget.”
    That doesn’t speak for all of them. But, I think, Lopez, as a broadcaster, needs to be aware that the word could be painful to some of the TV viewers. I’m not disabled, but the word kind of jarred me every time he used it. Otherwise, he did a fine job. Broadcasters need to have a seamless style to them. They can’t have something that kind of sticks out like that, IMO. I just think he’s better off finding a different phrase. This is all just my opinion.
    When Krukow first started he would say “the batter swang at the ball.” He eventually stopped doing it. Someone had talked to him about it. It improved his broadcasting.

  50. zumiee said, on June 4, 2017 at 10:25 pm

    The Rob Neyer article was interesting. The evolution of language is always ongoing. Broadcasters can get in hot water if they’re not careful.


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