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Losing Again

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 10, 2017

I saw exactly zero innings of the game last night so I can’t really comment on what happened. The box score looks unkind. If you think a regular guy like Santana shutting us out is bad wait till you get a load of the stuff Berrios has. Bendy shit for days.

Belmont Stakes day so I’ll see you guys later this afternoon…..

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  1. zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 9:48 am

    We lost Adam West today. For me, this show was absolute must-see TV when I was a kid.

  2. snarkk said, on June 10, 2017 at 10:33 am

    RIP to Adam West. As a kid, I really liked that show. My favorite baddy was The Penguin.
    Anyway, the Giants woes have even got me getting ticked at Marty Lurie. I like Marty. But, he continues to go off on a tangent Giants pitching. Really? This team is the worst offensive squad in the league, probably in both leagues, getting shutout regularly. Talking about Moore and pitching in the face of a season long epic face plant on scoring is just kind of silly…

  3. snarkk said, on June 10, 2017 at 10:43 am

    Cards just went 0-7 on road trip, now 6 games below .500. That’s great compared to where the Giants are.
    But, Cards decided this was unacceptable. The GM Mozeliak said “”This is a breakdown on many levels… What today represents is people are being held accountable for what we need to do.” That’s right, they held people accountable. What a concept. They didn’t just throw up their hands and say the canard, “Oh, well, its all on the players — they’re not performing, so we can’t blame any management.” From reports: “The Cardinals reassigned third-base coach Chris Maloney within the organization, and Mike Shildt will move from the quality control coach to the third-base coach box. Bill Mueller took a recent leave of absence, and he will not return to the same role as assistant hitting coach. Mark Budaska will take over in that role. Ron “Pop” Warner will also join the coaching staff.”
    Giants woes are far worse. What do they do? Freakin’ nada…

    • zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 11:03 am

      I hear ya, but I wouldn’t call those big changes by the Cards.

      • snarkk said, on June 10, 2017 at 11:36 am

        I’d call moving the third base coach in mid-season a pretty big deal in baseball. Giants waited until the offseason, tho it was obvious fairly early on last season Kelly had to go. You move 4 guys in mid-season, that’s not nothing. It’s a message to the manager, too. Metheny is basically now on report. Compare — the Giants have been in free fall across essentially a season now, last year and this. They did move Kelly and Hays in the offseason. But, that obviously wasn’t enough. More moves need to be made. Cueto let the cat out of the bag that the clubhouse isn’t right, maybe to leverage the team to trade him, maybe out of frustration. But this free fall can’t be just just on the players. St. Louis realizes this and acted. I’d like to hear from BF’s Cards’ blog guy Shoptaw about what he thinks…

      • snarkk said, on June 10, 2017 at 11:53 am

        This litany of woes sounds like the Giants…
        http://www.cardsconclave.com/2017/06/10/underperforming-people/

      • zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 1:06 pm

        I’m just not sure the changes match the gravitas of calling a press conference and the things the GM said. I guess the biggest thing is putting Matheny on high alert.

  4. alleykat69 said, on June 10, 2017 at 10:53 am

    Adam West RIP Bruce Wayne…Penguin was cool, Liked the Riddler,and Mr. Freeze as well.
    Mr. Freeze kind of like the Giants Frozen offense…

  5. Flavor said, on June 10, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    not feeling super excited about the Belmont today but I will be playing J Boys Echo in all spots. Not sure he can win but think he’s a great longshot play in the exotics (exacta, tri, super). And the race before the Belmont, I’m spotting Ascend in all spots (1-4). He’s got a class issue but will be huge odds and that closing kick looks legit.

  6. alleykat69 said, on June 10, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    Freaking Working!!!
    But I’ll go with the Trifecta San Carlos, Belmont& Palo Alto..

  7. Flavor said, on June 10, 2017 at 12:21 pm

    I understand Pablo is hitting .205 this year but if he can’t get a start against Verlander the Red Sox should just wave the white flag and release him now.

  8. Flavor said, on June 10, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    Pretty sure Kokonuts is in one of these frames if you know where/when to freeze it

  9. snarkk said, on June 10, 2017 at 1:10 pm

    Agent 0 starting at SS today for Twins.
    If he goes 2-4 with an RBI, we better start looking for Giant’s voodoo dolls with pins in them at ATT…

  10. zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 1:17 pm

    If Adrianza beats the Giants with a hit today, just shut the season down.

    • zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 1:25 pm

      Giants announce they will be forfeiting the rest of their games.

    • snarkk said, on June 10, 2017 at 2:00 pm

      Agent 0, over 37 Twins ABs so far, is hitting .297…

  11. Flavor said, on June 10, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    long pants didn’t help Hunter. I don’t know how anyone hits this wiffle ball pitcher, ever.

    • zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 1:43 pm

      He made a mistake to Belt, a low-ish fastball on a 3-2 count. The out pitch there has to be a fastball high in the strikezone.

      • Flavor said, on June 10, 2017 at 1:54 pm

        Belt’s a very good hitter. He can do anything.

  12. snarkk said, on June 10, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    I’m wondering what the baseball equivalent would be of last night where the refs called 22 fouls on the Dubs in the FIRST QUARTER. The home plate ump calling a ball on every pitch thrown by Samardzxxxx to the Twins first 9 batters?…

    • Macdog said, on June 10, 2017 at 2:38 pm

      That sort of reminds me of MadBum’s start vs. the Twins in 2011, when he gave up hits to 9 of the first 10 batters — his only out was the pitcher — before finally getting the hook.

  13. Flavor said, on June 10, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    Agent 000. Predictable.

  14. Flavor said, on June 10, 2017 at 2:42 pm

    I don’t ask for much here but I would like some extreme props for my 12pm post. Ascend just won at 27-1. BOOM!

    • zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 2:48 pm

    • Macdog said, on June 10, 2017 at 2:48 pm

      Just watched it, nice job!

      • Flavor said, on June 10, 2017 at 3:14 pm

        thanks. Whatever you do, don’t bet J Boys Echo. I’ve been on an unreal heater that has to end, probably on him. But besides hitting the pick 3 and trifecta in last race, I’m getting paid on the pick 4 AND the pick 3 in the Belmont on the following horses: 2,3,4,7. Wish me luck!

  15. snarkk said, on June 10, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    Pence is awful at the plate.
    Would anybody take him and 1/2 his salary, and his wife? I’m not really sure I care what the return is. He’s dropped off a cliff in durability and production…

  16. unca_chuck said, on June 10, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    Damn, Flav. Nice payoff. The reffing was fucking ludicrous last night. If we get a game reffed that way in our favor, we’d win by 40.

  17. Flavor said, on June 10, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    well today has been a very, very good day…..

  18. zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 5:24 pm

    The Giants have won 41% of their games since last July.

    • snarkk said, on June 10, 2017 at 6:04 pm

      And, sold out every home game …

  19. zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    Craw’s OPS is in the .600s now. It just seems like a lost season for him. His wife is suffering the trauma of the death of her sister. That’s a mentally and physically draining thing for Craw, too. I cut him a break on that.

  20. snarkk said, on June 10, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    Giants had bases loaded with one out in this game, with Craw and Pence coming up. They both struck out. That’s about the size of this season. Absolute pffffftttt at the plate. It’s not a slump when this has been going on, like zum notes, since last summer. That’s a whole season of pffffffffftttttt. You blow up a team with pffffffttttttt like this…

  21. Flavor said, on June 10, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    I’d like to hear James take on the season. He’s usually so rosey about the offense and all the runs they average per game. He can’t possibly fake his way into believing this team is hitting enough this year. But who knows? Maybe he’d try?

    • willedav said, on June 10, 2017 at 8:11 pm

      I think he did say that if Moore and others have ERAs in 4.50 range, Giants will be in big trouble, which is pretty spot on tho for a different reason.

  22. zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    Pence’s OPS is in the .500s now. Yikes.

    • willedav said, on June 10, 2017 at 8:06 pm

      marty lurie asked a caller, “Is Pence done?” The caller thought he was and has been for a while after his ironman years—hurt, then once he starts to hit he gets hurt again and had to find rhythm all over again.

      As much as everyone loves the guy, Lurie said, “But you have to produce!”

  23. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 10, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    I haven’t yet heard Sabevans actually call this one a bad penny year, but I could see them thinking that way. Really, it’s only a bad penny year because the front office didn’t go out and spend any good pennies where needed….

  24. willedav said, on June 10, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    also heard Lurie voice this concern, while wondering about Posey legacy as he put it.
    He asked callers to weigh in on Posey turning into Mauer, a former C who now plays 1b but with subpar numbers at that position, which obviously makes him look bad.

    Lurie out loud wondered if this is why posey refuses to go to1b full time, as it would ruin his legacy as a HOF C.
    Really surprised to hear him say this but this was during discussion on his lack of rbis, 20 I think as of today here in June while batting cleanup, and how few he has actually driven in with RISP.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 10, 2017 at 8:57 pm

      I didn’t hear Lurie but I’ve been thinking about that lately. Is Posey a legit HOF level player? What about Bumgarner? Maybe eventually they both are but if not has there ever been a team that had a similar 3 in 5 run without at least one HOF player?

      • zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 9:10 pm

        Bochy, of course, will get in. All other managers who won 3 are in.
        Posey has a better chance than Bum, but the key for either the rest of the way is longevity. This lost season for Bum really hurts his chances.
        Posey, if he stays healthy, should make it in.

      • zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 9:19 pm

        Posey has won every major award. What award has he not won? How many catchers ever did that?

  25. willedav said, on June 10, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    wow Roberts takes out his SP Wood with 2 on 2 out 4-1 lead and guy he brings in gives up 3 run bomb to Reds Devin Mesoraco that ties score.
    Bellinger kid hit his 13th HR and the Taylor kid in CF has one running catch to save a double off the wall and another in front of RCF wall. Where do they find these guys?

    • zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 9:15 pm

      They’ve made some nice pick-ups lately. And some guys are having career years this year, like Alex Wood. It’s up to the Dodgers to try to cash that in, finally, this year. The “Kershaw window” won’t be open forever.

      • zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 9:17 pm

        They picked up this Fields guy off the scrap-heap, and he’s pitching lights-out this season.

      • zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 9:24 pm

        Fields flubbed on a pitch tonight, but in general he’s been very good.
        Maybe he’ll start to wear down. They’re using him a lot.

  26. zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    Charlie Steiner is not an awesome play-by-play guy.

  27. zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 10:06 pm

    Steiner said the Dodger pinch-hitters are hitting .288 this season. That’s insane.

  28. zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 10:12 pm

    More insanity:
    Turner is hitting .333 when he has two strikes on him.
    Jansen set a major league record by starting the season with 40 strikeouts and no walks.

  29. zumiee said, on June 10, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    The terrible Puig gets two hits and scores the winning run.

  30. djloo27 said, on June 11, 2017 at 5:59 am

    Flavor: Incredible handicapping! How do you do it? TVG should grab you…

    • djloo27 said, on June 11, 2017 at 6:24 am

      You have seriously amazing instincts. Maybe the best I’ve seen and I go back a long way…

    • Flavor said, on June 11, 2017 at 7:02 am

      thanks, appreciate the props from someone who knows. The Ascend call was my best this year. Non horse racing folks don’t know how difficult it is to give out a single horse at 27-1 and have him win the race. Grade 1 no less.

  31. djloo27 said, on June 11, 2017 at 6:34 am

    Is there anyone easier to pitch to than Pence? He chases balls and looks at strikes.
    It’s almost comical…


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