Double Digits
Quietly, I hit #10 last night. I didn’t realize it till I was going to bed and I started counting them up. Five Niners. Three Giants. Two Dubs. You can quibble with the number but I don’t count championships that were won before I was born and I don’t count the one in ’75 because I wasn’t following the team back then. Too young, wasn’t watching basketball, didn’t even know it had happened.
But these 10? These count. I earned them FOREVER. I’ll go browse around for some gear today but I doubt I’ll find anything. I can’t stand the designs of today’s sportswear. The letters are too big and loopy, the colors too gaudy. I’m not wearing a shirt with some dude’s face plastered all over the front. Nope, I’ll just wear my “City” tee shirt today that I bought about 15 years ago. It’s got holes in it. Proud holes.
We were gifted another championship last night and I don’t take these for granted. The Royals are in town tonight. Another sound reminder of MY ten.
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Yeah, it’s crazy to think I’ve seen every 49er playoff run but for 1957, and all the SF Giants playoff runs but for ’62. The Warriors had a little more success but I didn’t start watching them till around 1969. To this day, the only championship game I saw live was game 2 of the Warriors win over the Bullets in ’75. 11 titles is nuts. Never counted them before.
Agree, Flav. And the old timers here know that I grew up a Cardinal fan in Oklahoma (before coming to CA with the Air Force in ’77), and I have two from those childhood days (64 and 67). Warriors are amazing. If they keep the core intact and stay healthy next year, no reason they cannot go back-to-back.
Royals in town and sucking wind damned near as badly as our pathetic Giants. Who will win the duel of the non-Goliaths of the baseball world???
And WTF, Giants drafted an OFer! Poor fucker is cursed…
What’s odd is I had to wait forever to see the Giants win while the Dubs and Niners won their titles when I was young. My son has seen the Giants and Warriors win titles, but not the Niners.
Not sure how long he needs to wait for the Niners. He almost got the trifecta from 2010 to 2015. No mean feat, but it was not to be.
Uh, tell your son not to hold his breath re: experiencing a Niner championship.
Cavs gave them all they could handle, just couldn’t stop them often enough to close ground. It’s not easy to win any championship so I hope Warriors fans don’t take them for granted.
ESPN supposed to have couple days of Celt/Laker rivalry from 80s on. I don’t think Warrior/Cavs last near that long. Each points up weakness of other team, despite tremendous strength and star power.
GS still needs rim protector and reserves Iguodala and Livingston are aging. Cavs role players too inconsistent and backcourt/bench unreliable at either end.
Interested to see what Royals will do in coming months with their roster.
Those Celtic-Laker rivalries were awesome. I really liked the Cetls as a kid and absolutely detested almost everything Lakers (still do!). The exception was Kareem, who I loved as “Lew Alcindor” playing for UCLA (I remember the “Game of the Century”) and the Bucks, with whom he won a championship in, I believe, his second year.
Why are the Giants taking a 3Bman in round 2, when they have Arroyo?…
I have read a number of stories of late that say the Giants plan in the draft is to always draft the “best available,” and not necessarily for team need.
Not that you would count the A’s and Raiders, but for the Bay Area that’s another 6 titles. 17 titles from 1972 till now.
True. And I was around to experience a number of those, but they were not a team I followed.
Who here thinks Bron Bron goes to the Lakers? And they get the amazing weasel Lonzo Ball? Bron has one year left on his current deal, but he already has a house in LA and his kids are going to school there.
Nah, LA is still in rebuild mode and trying to figure out who is any good. LB knows who is good just doesn’t have enough of them around him…yet.
Read a blog comment comparing him to Jerry West, the logo who just couldn’t beat Russell and Celts because they were the better team/better coached.
WillieD makes some good points, but even with that said, I would not be surprised to see LeBron as a Laker. Stranger things have happened…
I was a huge Raidders fan in 70s, I can claim the Raiders champ team in ’77. Loved the Snake and those great teams in mid ’70s. 2010 Giants win still won’t be topped for me, ever…
I agree on the 2010 championship, snarkk. That “Band of Misfits” will always be the most special for me.
Yeah, the 2010 reunion in 2020 should be awesome. They’ll all get the standing O, but I’ll bet Timmy will get an off charts welcome…
btw, Astros lost another SP to the DL. Cueto start tomorrow vs. his old buddies might be his last in Giant uni.
Evans needs to pry whatever he can out of them, now.
Stros are 44-21…that number sounds familiar.
I get that teams wait til near deadline to max leverage. But, there could be something to auctioning him now before potential trade partners have other options to compare…
Wheel it – Deal it! I would love to see them get something while they can, because if they do not deal him, I fully expect him to exercise his option.
Word is he wants to go East, so would be interesting to see how Houston would shake out. Not sure he could block it, as I do not see anywhere that he has any trade clauses that prohibit trades to specific teams.
The ‘Stros can’t afford to wait any longer with four of their starters on the DL. If they have to overpay to get somebody, so fucking be it. Their going to overwork their pen to the point they will be useless come October.
Settle for Matt Cain WJ??
So I guess over the decades the Giants never draft any Outfielders cause their never “Best Available”in their minds?
Cueto wants back in the AL so Hou would be a perfect fit.
exactly and he wouldn’t get hit for double switched out over there like here. He brings the vet cred playoff experience and the ring. He’s also innings eater who would allow others time to heal up for playoffs.
And Houston has great farm for Giants to pick through even if they cover some of his salary for this season. Wilco would know more about their ml ready guys but this seems like perfect storm where both teams benefit.
Houston doesn’t have much in the way of ML ready arms. Two of their top pitching prospects were recently thrown into the fire and it shows. They need more refining for sure.
They are stocked with ML ready OF talent, though. Derek Fisher or Kyle Tucker are two names to consider. Either one is probably an overpay for Cueto, especially if he walks, but the potential reward is worth the risk, IMHO.
perfect. SF covers some $$$ for this year to help out Stros and get fix for the OF, where they really need to fill 3 spots and do it without breaking up IF.
Yes, make deals now if they can. Start the rebuild. Turn the page.
We take on the Rockies later this week. I think Strick starts his suspension. We’re going to be down 1 pitcher. This could get real ugly.
I don’t think that coaches contribute much to wins but I do subscribe to the belief that the team takes on their coaches persona a bit. On the one side was alien fish face Lue saying he’s never seen a team as good as this version of the Warriors. He may truly believe that but saying that kind of thing in public? The Cavaliers put up as good a fight as they could, I suppose. James is out of this world but I don’t think he’s a good teammate and he doesn’t inspire his team to follow him. When he’s not flopping like a fish, he’s also something of a dirty player imo. On the defensive end, he clearly tried to drive his knee into Durant couple of times and makes suspect plays around the rim.
One the other hand there’s mild mannered Kerr who, as the story goes, is also the only guy on those Bulls teams that had the stones to call out Jordan for being a punk. Sure, he ended up getting socked in the lip but he’s a guy that doesn’t back down from anyone and the Warriors certainly play that way. His personal story is really something.
I’m not much of a hoops fan these days but it is still exciting to see the Warriors close it out in the bay area.
I think Kerr and his staff create the atmosphere for success. He seems to have the right message, calm down make the right plays at right time, hang on to the ball keep it moving communicate/ help each other on D.
Stories abound how fun Warriors practices are with loud music. Plus Kerr challenges Curry to FT contest, with caveat that unless Curry swishes his they don’t count. He’s not yeller and screamer and listens to those around him and has a strong staff, opposite of M Jackson days.
Fact that he can bring in diverse types like Green West McGee Bogut I think speaks volumes and I think he gets the best out of them and his big stars. Just not as easy as it looks.
who else would play Pachulia for 5 minutes start of each half? Kerr did it all season and stuck with the guy. Plus he’s given the rook McCaw some minutes too and he’s been fine. Players seem to love and respect the guy and talked about how much they missed him while he wasn’t on bench, not often the case in NBA.
And while they are at it, something else to consider: Nats lost 4th straight at home yesterday, this one to Braves in a game they led 9-6 going to the 8th.
Relievers gave up 2 in 8th 3 in 9th and they lost 11-10.
what is the use of hanging onto Melancon and his $9mil or whatever for years when you are 13 games under .500?
Get what you can for this guy from a team in need. They were after him in off season before Giants got him so the interest has always been there. now they are more desperate so work something out and dump salary.
Nats are jonesing to win it all, and Dusty ain’t getting any younger either.
Nats also blew a 3-1 lead in the 9th vs. Rangers before losing in 11 on Saturday
This all sounds good on the surface, but what do you do about a closer for next year? The Giants wanted a closer for the next couple of years, not sure they will be looking to dump Melancon. Will be interesting to see how it all shakes-out…
Kuiper was saying the club just needs to get on a roll and then decide what to do in July. No body mentioned to him that July is 18 days away. This club is cooked. Sell everything and send Booby Evans along with them.
KC and the Rockies Sunshine Band this week. I don’t see that roll starting this week.
Booby ain’t gettin’ no Flap love…LMAO…
Yeah, I am NOT impressed with Evans.
And I disagree with the “sell everything.” I think you keep the IF and SP (outside of Cueto) intact. They need some serious help in the BP, that is for damned sure.
It seemed to me that LeBron kind of threw his teammates under the bus a bit in his postgame press conference. He said something like “I did everything I could. I left everything out there on the court.”
I didn’t hear him talk about his teammates’ efforts at all. So what is he implying?
Sure, he played great in the series, and some of his teammates weren’t so great; but still. There’s something to be said for having your teammates’ backs in that situation.
Melcancon’s future rests on the front office’s thoughts regarding the team’s immediate viability. If the front office (delusionally) thinks that the team is a good offseason away from being right back in the mix, then they’ll bite the bullet and keep him. If they go yard-sale, he’s gone. As you said, Willie, there’s no reason to pay a closer top dollar when he isn’t closing games. The Nats could have easily kept him, so I’m not sure they go back that way, but who knows? Desperate times, desperate measures.
Cueto HAS to be dealt as well. We have no chance to content this year, and he’s said unequivocally that he wants to go back to the AL.
I give kudos to Green for keeping it together emotionally during the game. During the kerfuffle between West and Thompson, Green was actually working as a peacemaker, gently pushing some people out of the fray, and talking them down. That was the moment in the game where I thought- here comes the Cavs’ dirty trick moment. They’re losing by 16 points, and they want to start trouble and change the tone of the game, and take away the rhythm the Warriors had going, and heck, maybe even get Green involved in a fight and kicked out. But Green didn’t take the bait. Even later in the game, he had some calls go against him, and he just ran back down the court. It was so cool to see.
I’m more of a Kings fan than a Warriors fan, but I always pull hard for the Warriors in these title runs, and I’m sure most Kings fans do. Most Kings fans have a history of pulling for the Warriors before the Kings arrived in Sac-town. I remember the ’75 championship pretty well. I remember the Bullets (now the Wizards) by the end of the series trying to bait Barry into a fight to get him kicked out. Just a real dirty trick. But it failed. Barry refused to take the bait.
In the ESPN documentary tonight about the Lakers/Celtics battles in the ’80s….there were some really hard fouls in those days that would be flagrants nowadays, especially a vicious take-down of Rambis on a fastbreak.
I brought in my J Rich City Jersey to proudly display!!! Debating if I will wear it to a all-hands meeting tomorrow…
Chi, reading the scouting report on the kid they took in the second round…he has reportedly a funky throwing style that does not project well for third base and he may be projected as a likely forst baseman.
First baseman…
All honky pitchers for the Giants on day two of the MLB draft.
The question I have for the group is what will Curry take for a contract?? Will he agree to just $20 mill next year and bigger chinks down the road that will still max him out.
Would give them some flexibility to maybe bring Iggy back for one more year maybe $8 millionish and then bigger bucks paid after Klay’s next two years expire. I think someone like the Clippers will give Livingston a 3 year deal in that $11 mill range that makes it too costly to keep and he deserves all the dollars he can get.
Thoughts? I think if they win next year KD will stay for a couple more years to see if they can set some historical records. If we don’t win it all next year, I would not be shocked to see KD head home here to DC…which then opens up the salary for Boogie!!! 😁😇
You don’t often see a manager do what Dusty did: talk about the need to get roster help. But, as noted, Dusty is an older guy who doesn’t want to waste a chance at a World Series.
Dusty was the on-deck hitter when Hank Aaron broke Ruth’s career HR record. How cool is that? What an amazing amount of baseball Dusty’s been around. The only missing piece is that elusive championship as a manager.
I may have told this story before but back in the day my brother played in a flag football league with one of Dusty’s brothers or kids (can’t remember which) and one time Dusty pulled up to the game in a limo and jumped out to watch the whole game from the side line. He was cheering on the kids and encouraging them all. I remember thinking he seemed like a cool guy.
I met him on a couple of occasions at Kings games. He would go with his dad before he passed. He always seemed genuine and down to earth. Cannot believe he has not choked on a toothpick, yet!
I’d send an email ccing Astros, Red Sox, yanks and anybody else needing SPs that Cueto is now on auction block, entertaining bids, fellas…
It’s being reported that the Warriors have announced they won’t be visiting the White House. Not sure how reliable the report is. I am very pleased with their decision, if the report is accurate.
Of course, a lot of them were at the White House visit during Obama’s presidency for the previous championship.
And for what it’s worth, the latest Gallup job-approval rating has Trump at 36%
Wow. He went UP a couple of points…
Oh snap! 🙂
The Cards are undefeated, and leading the Brewers 5-0 today, since their GM did a bit of riot-act reading.
Ok I’m bored somewhat
so I googled up are new future phenomenon 17 years old Heliot Ramos and I found a nickname for the kid “Dream Ripper” kinda ketchy like our original dude “Jack the Ripper” so I’ll take early credit if he turns into a dream instead of a nightmare pick..
Oh wait if he does fizzle out, I’m going with Ramos Fizz!!🍹🍸🥃🍺🍻
I think KD is on record saying a) he wants to stay, and b) he won’t go max contract to force out guys like Iggy/Livingston. Curry’s deal has no effect, but his deal is likely ginormous.
Just remember these deals come down to money.
A lot of it in the cases of Cueto and Lemon Can.
Fun to talk about but not so easy to do…
Maddon batted Rizzo leadoff vs. Zack Wheeler. Rizzo has hit an HR and the Cubs lead 6-1.
Now 8-1. Wheeler goes 1 2/3 innings, with 62 pitches.
Puig hit his 10th HR.
he’s batting 9th now….
Just as a hypothetical, where would he bat in the Giants’ lineup? Probably a middle of the order spot, which says a lot about the Giants’ lineup.
Not a great move. Puig still hasn’t figured out the whole social media thing.
first time I’ve ever been on Puig’s side. I can’t stand Cleveland fans. Dumb, all of them.
GH, wear the jersey. The Warriors have already shined the prez.
Read Loo’s 3:46 again. Don’t want to be cruel, but no major player is going anywhere, with the possible exception of Cueto. Not only money comes into question, but no trade clauses or limited trade clauses are also in play. Giants would need to eat a couple of Brink’s trucks worth of contracts to move our dead weight.
Read this . . . It’ll sober you up:
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/06/taking-inventory-san-francisco-giants.html
not insurmountable obstacles tho. Cueto is owed a ton of money by SF if he were not to opt out tho every report seems to indicate he will. If Giants paid pct of Cueto’s salary to contending team looking to win it all I think there’d be takers.
Return would be low cost controlled prospect so big net savings.
No trade guys like Melancon have the ability to decline, but if a contending team like Nats wanted him why would he stay with SF team going nowhere?
Dumping off Pence more difficult definitely, Nunez an easy out just not likely to bring back much.
Bellinger hit his 16th and 17th HRs.
But, we’ve got Gorkys !…
That’s sick. I remember his dad with the Yanks.
Jayson Werth’s dad, too…
And David Bell . . .
Not a fun fact- Bellinger’s dad got a ring with the 2002 Angels.
Belt took a pitch down the middle for strike three. That wasn’t awesome.
Kuiper just called him Whitfield, lol.
Terry Whitfield was a cool hitter.
I had no idea Clay was his father. The thought had crossed my mind a couple times but I figured there was no way Clay could have a son young enough to be him. Unreal.
Dodgers are 31-14 (best in baseball) since he was brought up…
it’s been 20 years and when Kuip says what # archway the ball is off of I have no fucking idea which one it is……
Me too. I never knew if the archways in foul territory count…
Thought he was talking about the Golden Arches …
That was a good line by Krukow.”One thing about the San Quentin baseball ⚾️ team, all their games are at home”
Yeah, and him and Kuip talking about the “summer of love” was good stuff, too…
You have to come up with any nuggets you can during this depressing season..
Now the leopard shark 🦈 is getting his 2 minutes of fame out in the Cove!
Kuiper another gem: “Well this Shark must be drunk,cause he’s only swimming in circles “
Sucks that basketball season is over.
True Chuck,
Then again 49er’s are coming up so depression can start up again..
Gearrin should change his name to Ambien…
How the hell does Gearrin have a era of 1.40?
Oh wait I know,he gives up runs to the other pitchers era.
Oh he just did it for Blach!!!
Click.
It’s so bad with the Giants I’m deciding between “Waterworld are Sully”both water adventures!
This one’s a stinking pile even for this season.
I’m sure it’s a sellout, though.
Onto a glass of pinot.
G’nite Flappers…
Shit, at this rate the Niners are looking better than the Gyros. They have a shot at .500 at least.
Do we have 3 hits tonight?
Pence does look sickly, like someone here said the other day.
Did Lexi put him on some weird diet?
Sabathia left game tonight with strained hammy, so Yanks could be in need of a starter.
Yeah, Houston and the Yanks would be great to deal with at this point… make it so, #1. Waterworld. Kat, I once (once!) watched Waterworld 3 consecutive times on a flight from Tahiti to Chicago, with no headphones, just staring blankly at the screen in my unable-to-sleep-on-long-flight mode. Later saw it with sound. It was actually better without.
Gold!
Looks like 100 losses are in the bag…
Is Dyson’s ERA under infinity yet?
Speaking of movies, here’s a pretty good summertime movie. Marilyn trying to stay cool in a hot NY apartment.
Baseball-related….this is the movie that ended her marriage with Joe DiMaggio. He hated her being so sexual in the film. He never really liked her film career. He wanted her to stay home and cook dinner for him. When she met him, he had already retired from baseball, and she had no idea he was a baseball player. She knew he was a famous athlete, but didn’t know what sport he played.
My summer plans:
BTW, that apartment today is probably $3,500.00 a month…
Sing it, Frank!
“I want to wake up in a city that never sleeps
And find I’m a number one, top of the list
These little town blues are melting away
I’ll make a brand new start of it in old New York
If I can make it there, I’ll make it anywhere
It’s up to you, New York, New York, New York”
lulz!
14’s are wild, man. Today it’s June 14th over here… Giants are 14 games under .500, 14 out of the wildcard, and 14.5 out of the division. Ouch.
Who’s the first player (not necessarily best) that pops into your head when you hear #14?
I have no idea why, but for me it’s Y.A. Tittle…
The best? Oscar Robertson?
Oddly enough, same with me, YA Tittle. That was in my first years of watching NY Giants football. Also Jim Rice, during my Boston years. At least I think he was 14….
That was some kind of awesome performance from Gearrin tonight. He came in with the bases loaded, and gave up a triple to clear the bases, and then gave up a single to score the guy that hit the triple.
And THAT’s your Giants’ replay. Or… Time for a change? Think Speedy! Yes, please, change some things speedily…..
I remember the first time I saw YA Tittle take off his helmet, and I couldn’t believe he was bald. Bald, I say! How could a bald guy be a good quarterback? He looked like my Dad, who was definitely not quarterback material.
Same feelings about Tittle, Paul. He looked like my dentist. Might’ve been the first time I uttered the words “WTF”…