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Moore Strikes Please

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 7, 2017

Matty Moore Friday. Ugh. I used to look forward to these. He’s back at home, that is suppose to help him. I’ve actually found a reason to be optimistic today: The biggest gripe we all have with him is his nibblin’ ways. And all the walks. Well, Miami takes the fewest walks in the NL. Maybe Moore nibbles his way to victory tonight. Hey, if they won’t LET HIM walk them that’s gotta be “Advantage Moore” right?

I expect tonight to be a low scoring game. The o/u of 8.5 looks out of whack to me. Bet the under and you’ll laugh all the way to the bank…….

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  1. willedav said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:43 am

    Guess it was good they had Stratton up but iirc he got lit up last start for Sac. ERA down there is way over 5.00and he’s given up 80 hits in 64 innings.
    Cueto apparently might still pitch this weekend in another showcase outing.

  2. willedav said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:13 am

    In other Sac news, Parker 0-5 with 3 Ks, now batting an even .200. Mac’s at .240. Gomer had a shutout inning that lowered his ERA to 6.75. Yeow. Gameface comes back up, Stratton back down sez Schulman.
    Baer reiterates there will be no tear down. And how does that make you feel?

    Showcase Johnny. I used to have Chicago blues LP music sampler from Chess that had Shoeshine Johnny, aka Johnny Shines on it. Great cut “So Glad that I found you” with Little Walter.
    Somehow the blues and Giants seem to be made for each other.

  3. James said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:13 am

    Moore makes you appreciate just how good Dirty Sanchez was ๐Ÿ™‚

  4. Flavor said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:22 am

    Baer saying there will be no tear down is making my point from yesterday. If he knows the fans would revolt if any of the core guys got traded then why would he tear anything down? Giants fans are irritating me these days. And I think management’s hubris over their “3 WS success” is going to blind them to the realities of how baseball is played today. Zumiee’s POTD covers it succinctly.

  5. willedav said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:29 am

    the Baer quote, “There will not be a 3 or 4 yr teardown. I don’t think it needs to be” appears in online Chron column where he is scrambling for excuses around Bonds wall plaque, 10 years after he played final game for SF. Most recent were Schmidt and Marvin Benard2011. On what planet does Benard belong alongside Bonds?
    Further he says, “It’s just step one. There will be other things down the line.”

    do you guys think they will retire his number?

    Other odd thing about this whole column? The let Ann Killion, who hates Bonds and has resolutely defended her decision NOT to vote for him on every HOF ballot, write it. Of course she finds room to denigrate him, saying,”All of this is part of the complicated legacy of Bonds…whose accomplishments are severely tainted by his connection to steroids.” STFU already.

    • xoot said, on July 7, 2017 at 1:49 pm

      Killion’s stupidity and lack of talent severely taint everything she writes.

  6. blade3colorado said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:35 am

    “Baer reiterates there will be no tear down. And how does that make you feel?”

    Willie, I expected this. Probably most Flappers did too. As I’ve said on numerous occasions, winning is nice, but never think that’s the Giants priority. Yeah, they’ll talk shit about winning is goal 1. However, it’s really all about the Benjamin’s. They’ve convinced the fan base that Crawford, the Reverend, Belt, Bum, etc., are just having off years. Remember, the majority of our imbecilic fan base would take Timmy back . . . Mind boggling I know, but that’s the reality.

    If they can squeeze 2-3 years of so called sellouts; selling Giraffe hats and Crawford jerseys; and maintain minimum payroll spending until the next television contract comes up for negotiation – they’re good to go.

    • chipower9 said, on July 7, 2017 at 12:20 pm

      Timmy’s coming back? WOO HOO! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • xoot said, on July 7, 2017 at 1:52 pm

      there are those who would love to see Lincecum back in the fold and auditioning for the apparently open broadcaster’s slot (against Javier, et al.) I’d love to see him on the mound again–throwing out the ceremonial first pitch of the season next year.

  7. James said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:39 am

    SF also has the lowest team OPS in the ML, and the 4th lowest OBP. Boost the latter to last year’s 8th ranked OBP, and get a collective 3.5 ERA from Cueto, Moore, and Smarge, you’d have the 85 win team everyone expected, even without the HRs.

  8. djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:43 am

    What exactly would constitute a tear down?
    Keeping everybody except the most obvious trade candidates? (Cueto, Nunie, Kontos)

    • Flavor said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:52 am

      to me, that would be jettisoning the core, HOMEGROWN guys: Belt, Craw, Panik, I don’t think they’d ever trade Bum or Posey in a million years.Cueto and Nunie not part of the core. They could go and we would still not be in teardown mode.
      Don’t underestimate how much love the Giants brass has for the guys they drafted. And that goes back to the same weird *fan crush* our fans have on these guys.

  9. djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 9:31 am

    Barring a deal, they’re locked into Pence and Span for one more year, so I guess they figure to take the same approach next year as this year and pray for bounce backs, good health, and some improvement from their failed bullpen. A solid recipe for 78 wins…

    • Flavor said, on July 7, 2017 at 10:19 am

      if the season ticket holders just keep happily renewing regardless of performance, why wouldn’t they do this? Seems like management has decided that with the fan base successfully hoodwinked there is no reason to make changes…….

    • chipower9 said, on July 7, 2017 at 12:21 pm

      A bit optimistic on the win total Loo… ๐Ÿ˜‰

  10. alleykat69 said, on July 7, 2017 at 10:57 am

    Giants are just stuck with players like Span& Pence when no team wants them and they still have big money coming so yeah the usual management stand were not eating that dough without having them play like Cain as well..
    Shit who finally had the cojones to eat Rowand’s contract? Was it Sabes?Baer? The Billionaires, Bochy? finally saying he sucks?

    • zumiee said, on July 7, 2017 at 11:53 am

      Mr. Bow-tie, Neukom, took the hit.

      • zumiee said, on July 7, 2017 at 11:55 am

        He gone.

      • xoot said, on July 7, 2017 at 1:54 pm

        His decision to rent Beltran was the biggest reason, I believe, for the ownership knife he got in the back

      • unca_chuck said, on July 7, 2017 at 2:16 pm

        Neukom wasn’t making personnel decisions, was he? I mean shit, the Zito deal was ludicrous as we were bidding against no one. Rowand at least was out there with A Jones and Hunter and was the middling of the 3.

      • xoot said, on July 7, 2017 at 2:47 pm

        Charles Johnson explained the decision to remove Neukom by accusing N of acting like a CEO when he really wasn’t one. The late season trade for Beltran in 2011 was an aggressive move that didn’t pay off.

    • gianthead said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:03 pm

      Was definitely Neukom. Neukom took over McGowan’s role as managing owner and the attention he got after the 2012 Championship pissed off the rest of the ownership group…

  11. unca_chuck said, on July 7, 2017 at 10:57 am

    The flip side to all this is the Marlins/A’s approach of jettisoning everyone of value. It got the Marlins a couple rings, a joke of a ballpark, and an indifferent fan base. Laughing at the casual fans is all well and good, but tell that to the Nats who can’t sell out a weekend game vs the reigning champs.

    As noted ad nauseum though, the contracts to the core guys are prohibitive anyway. Short of eating $180 mill in salary this year (right) to trade these guys, the front office is hamstrung by the deals they made.

    Cueto has to go, and if they can get anything for nooner, go for it. Interest in Cain and Pence is curious but get what you can.

    If anyone goes soon, it’ll be Evans.

  12. Bozo said, on July 7, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    Went to the Squirrels game last night. A walkoff single with a play at the plate made it pretty exciting (although I thought Hinojosa might have been out). CFer, Slade Heathcott looked like he was a bit too much of a free swinger to be a Leadoff guy and at 26 that cup of coffee he got with the Yanks in 2015 was probably his best shot. I liked 2B, Miguel Gomez and his speed (double and triple last night), SS/3B HinaJosa scored 3 runs (including thatwinning one at the plate), and he was not only solid at SS but also made a Crawford type play in the hole. Besides the middle infielders, my favorite thing was Field level seats for $12.face value (the netting kind of sucked), and the fireworks were pretty impressive.
    .

    • zumiee said, on July 7, 2017 at 12:36 pm

      Great report; thanks!

  13. zumiee said, on July 7, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    The D-Backs and Rockies were found lacking vs. the Dodgers. The Dodgers are heading for their 5th straight division title. Who in the division is going to step up in the next few years to challenge them?

    • djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 2:10 pm

  14. alleykat69 said, on July 7, 2017 at 12:51 pm

    Nobody dammit their stacked in the minors and their really overstacked in their OF with guys like Peterson& Thompson who could start for us..

    • zumiee said, on July 7, 2017 at 1:11 pm

      Yeah, they’ve caught some fortunate breaks, too. Turner and Taylor were cast-offs they collected. Bellinger came out of nowhere in the 5th round.
      Some of their bullpen guys were cast-offs.
      There’s just no way the Dodgers were predicting the level of production they’d get from these guys.
      Alex Wood, 10-0, that’s just nuts.
      Career-years all over that team this year.
      If they blow it in the playoffs again, that will be remarkable.
      Power hitters can get shut down in the playoffs, though, in a short series.

  15. Macdog said, on July 7, 2017 at 1:02 pm

    Looks like Giants are calling up INF Miguel Gomez from Richmond.

    • Flavor said, on July 7, 2017 at 1:07 pm

      this dude gonna play like he’s a secret agent for the honkeys

    • wilcojoe said, on July 7, 2017 at 1:18 pm

      Sabevans must have read the Clown’s Richmond game recap.

  16. alleykat69 said, on July 7, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    Lol ๐Ÿ˜†

  17. djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 4:05 pm

    1. Denard Span (L)
    2. Joe Panik (L) 2B
    3. Hunter Pence (R) RF
    4. Buster Posey (R) C
    5. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    6. Jae-Gyun Hwang (R) 3B
    7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    8. Austin Slater (R) LF
    9. Matt Moore (L) P

  18. snarkk said, on July 7, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    So if this kid Gomez is up, who is down/out?…

    • snarkk said, on July 7, 2017 at 5:06 pm

      Stratton…

      • blade3colorado said, on July 7, 2017 at 5:15 pm

        WTF? Monty was growing on me . . . Even if he only had one leg. Huhuhu ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  19. theroooster said, on July 7, 2017 at 5:35 pm

    Guys, I know some (most?) won’t want to read this, I probably wouldn’t if I were a Giants fan either, but this is for zoom and his 1:11 pm post. It’s an interesting article and Colletti is a former Giants guy as well – check it out, zoom, and anyone else who’s interested – this is in today’s Times:
    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodgers-colletti-plaschke-20170706-story.html

    • theroooster said, on July 7, 2017 at 5:37 pm

      Sitting in the Dodger Stadium dugout after his selection was formalized Thursday, Turner was reminded of the day Colletti helped convince him to become a Dodger. Turner was offered a minor league deal because a balky knee caused him to flunk his physical exam, and he could have gone elsewhere for more guaranteed money, but Colletti asked him to bet on himself.

      Recalled Colletti: โ€œI told him, โ€˜Youโ€™re my guy, I know you can play, man to man, you are making this team, itโ€™s just a matter of your health.โ€™โ€™

      Recalled Turner: โ€œNed has been so great, so encouraging, a great baseball mind. I no doubt owe him a lot of credit for taking a chance on me.โ€™โ€™

      • djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 5:47 pm

      • theroooster said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:01 pm

        Kenley Jansen was a Catcher, Pedro Baez was a 3rd baseman – Colletti was the guy who convinced them to become pitchers – it’s all in there…

      • djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:10 pm

        Someone did that for Felix Rodriguez…

    • zumiee said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:09 pm

      Good article; thanks!

  20. snarkk said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:05 pm

    I’d take Colletti over Bobby Evans…

    • wilcojoe said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:11 pm

      If ownership was smart they would open their checkbook and let Sabean bring back his good friend and protege. That might be the best offseason move they could make.

  21. blade3colorado said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    Good column Capon. Like Snarkk said, I’d take Colletti back every day and twice on Sunday.

    • theroooster said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:23 pm

      I’ve heard many interviews of Colletti on the radio, seen/heard him on TV, obviously now that he’s a contributor on FSN down here – the dude definitely lives and breaths baseball – extremely knowledgeable, old-school baseball guy. I love listening to him talk baseball. I think he’d still make a great GM.

  22. djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    Watching Mets-Cards.
    Every fly ball goes over the fence.
    It’s annoying…

  23. djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    Yadier Molina has the ugliest tattoo I’ve ever seen. It’s high on his neck by his right ear.
    It looks like the last slice of pizza in the box – the beat up one that nobody wants…

  24. wilcojoe said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    There was an article in the paper today about why it makes sense to legalize PED’s. The point being that if taken appropriately and monitored by a physician the physical benefit to helping players recover from injuries far outweighs any potential long term adverse effects they may have.

    Snarkk was spot on the other day when he said the guys getting busted are the ones who don’t have the financial resources or contacts to get the “good stuff” that is not detectable by today’s testing methods. Thus why so many of the guys getting busted are minor league prospects (predominantly latinos).

    • theroooster said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:34 pm

      What about the acne all over your back? The increase in cranium size? Yeah, guess that stuff not a big deal if it helps you RAKE…

      • djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:39 pm

        Seems like Bonds was the only one to get noticed for the big head…

      • djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:54 pm

  25. willedav said, on July 7, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    Mets had 126 HRs coming in, 2nd in NL. But 4.92 ERA, 14th and are 7 games under .500.
    Orioles and A’s are 116/113 HRs but league low BA/ERA, both teams 5 and 10 games under .500

    Bottom line, it takes lot more than just HRs to win; regardless of how game has changed pitching wins out.
    Dodgers, don’t forget, have Opie being Opie, Alex wood out of his mind and Jansen being Jansen—absolute top flight pitching to go with all the HRs.

  26. Macdog said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    Gillaspie up, Ryder to DL (wrist contusion).

  27. djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    Krukow rambling about winds, backspin, temperature…
    They’re playing with a fuckin’ Titleist!

  28. Macdog said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    And Moore still sucks.

  29. wilcojoe said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    I can’t remember a Giants pitcher that has been more disappointing than Matt freaking Moore.

    • djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:27 pm

      Sidney Ponson?

      • wilcojoe said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:34 pm

        That’s a good call but I think Moore has/had a higher ceiling and greater expectations.

      • Lurker John said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:37 pm

        Sidney fucking Ponson. Haven’t heard that name in a while.

      • djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:38 pm

        Amazingly, Zito managed to obliterate half a decade of horrific memories (I guess)…

      • xoot said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:48 pm

        Rental from the Orioles, good call

  30. Lurker John said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:35 pm

    Nice first inning by Moore. This guy is garbage.

  31. willedav said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    Wonder if our resident super scout Bozo saw any pitchers he can recommend Evans to call up.

  32. James said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    SF doesn’t have a single SP as good as . . . Dan Straily

  33. djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:39 pm

    The sellout crowd of 17,000 must be so disappointed…

    • theroooster said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:46 pm

      Gold, Loo, gold

      • djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:56 pm

        I truly believe the cameramen are instructed to avoid shots of the half empty upper deck at certain games…

      • xoot said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:19 pm

        Friend of mine often gives me her view box seats. Friday nights are usually fairly full even this year. Lower seats not so much, especially away from the IF walls

      • xoot said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:30 pm

        last time my older son wore his orange Friday Marichal jersey–yep, “nice jersey–but who’s Marichal”?

  34. theroooster said, on July 7, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    Dee Gordon with a nice 1st half – BA up to .295 after two hits tonight and he has 31 Steals. Better check his pee.

    • zumiee said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:14 pm

      Right after they check Turner’s.

      • zumiee said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:18 pm

        ๐Ÿ™‚

  35. djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    Moore on pace to go 6 innings and give up 27 hits…

  36. unca_chuck said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    Whooooo. Just turned on the game and Lester Moore is shooting blanks.

  37. unca_chuck said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    Blue is fucking blind. That’s a flat horrible call.

  38. unca_chuck said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    Oh yeah. Clockwork Orange time. This game will be over tomorrow.

  39. xoot said, on July 7, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    Moore strikes, Moore runs. Has the Perry Mason rerun started on that other station?

  40. Flavor said, on July 7, 2017 at 9:02 pm

  41. djloo27 said, on July 7, 2017 at 9:34 pm

    That should land Slater on the DL.
    Next!

  42. zumiee said, on July 7, 2017 at 9:39 pm

    Baer wants to win and rebuild at the same time. Sometimes when you try to do both at the same time, you end up doing neither.

  43. Macdog said, on July 7, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    Does a HR still make a splash when no one is watching?


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