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What If Bumgarner Doesn’t Win a Game All Year?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 25, 2017

That’s an absurd thought, right? This will only be his 7th start of the season. But still, it’s almost August. And he pitches for the worst team in the league. Maybe tonight is the night? Gonna be an uphill battle to get him to 1 win at some point this season.

I thought it was mildly amusing that Bochy got kicked out and Cain was yelling at the umpire all because they didn’t get a pitch called a strike. Um, how about not giving up multiple 3 run bombs? How many 3 run bombs have the Giants hit this year? Two? Pirates did it twice last night: In our park where it’s supposedly impossible to hit home runs.

I’m tired of hearing about park factors. I went and looked up how to calculate the wrc+. Here it is:

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Now, I’m not asking anyone to explain this to me because you’d be bullshitting me if you said you could do it. But I do know this: Lonnie Chisenhall has the highest wrc+ for the Indians at 149. That’s higher than Goldschmidt, Bellinger, Stanton, Murphy and Bryant. Anyone thinking about starting a team with Big Lon over any of those 5 studs?

So we can find and manipulate any saberstat we want to try to justify why our players don’t hit at AT&T and opposing players DO hit at AT&T. Frankly, I’m tired of hearing about it.

Get better hitters, preferably right handed ones. That is the only thing that’s going to fix this team and it’s going to take years to accomplish that even if they started today…..

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  1. zumiee said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    Do players still call the manager “the skipper”? It would seem kind of quaint.

  2. OldSealsFan (@OldSealsFan) said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:21 pm

    TF would know by now.

  3. Flavor said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:21 pm

    why is it taking so long for our dopey beat writers to figure this out?????

  4. James said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    Lonnie Chisenhall has 216 PAs in 64 games, and a 953 OPS. His lifetime OPS is 746. He’s about as good as a Blue Moon and completely irrelevant to making a case against SABR stats.

    • James said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:27 pm

      Apologies for the ill-timed response, but I did post first on the trade.

      • sandog said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:28 pm

        Proceed.

  5. Flavor said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    headed to the red sox….

  6. Macdog said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    Rosenthal; Source: Eduardo Nunez to #RedSox.

  7. unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    Seeing as Toomgis killed a guy in Fairfield not too long ago, I give him the thumbs-down.

    Dick Dietz???

  8. unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    And Blue Moon sucks sweaty balls, and purportedly tastes like it . . . . Made the mistake of buying a case at Costco. It slowed my consumption way down.

  9. Flavor said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:33 pm

    it’s unreal that we still don’t know who we get back from Boston. Rosenthal and Heyman are slapping each other on the backs for being “first” but if you don’t disclose who’s coming back on trade how can you call “first?”

  10. willedav said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:33 pm

    when I was coaching b-ball for HS, used to scout the teams in San Mateo and north area once CCS section playoffs started. Few of the gals teams used to have Islanders built about like “Auntie.”

  11. Flavor said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:33 pm

    2 minor league pitchers coming our way…..

  12. Flavor said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    ok i gotta hit sack for real. 2 minor league pitchers. I guarantee they will both be worthless. Later.

  13. unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    Hey, Dawg! Allison is here and she mentioned hanging out with Breault a while back. Said he was a nice guy.

    I heard for 2 pitching prospects. Beeks and Dalbec?

    • sandog said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:41 pm

      Hey Chuck—and say hi to Allison for me! Brault and Musgrove are both good guys who come from great families. AJ Griffin is a little older than Matt and I never spent any time around him.

  14. James said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    Here’s another out of context fact. The ump K&K were shitting on last night called two pitches in the zone balls and two out of the zone strikes while Cain was pitching. Overall, he was closer to the computerized strike zone than most umps.

  15. sandog said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:38 pm

    I have told this story before, but Brault is a good hitter and a real talented guy off the field—good actor and singer and was the frontman for a rock band in high school. The big time schools started recruiting him at some point in high school and he told them he wanted to be a performing arts major and wanted a fair chance to earn time playing in the field as well. All those schools told him no and no—if you come here you are a pitcher period, and need to choose a less-involved major. He stuck to his guns and ended up finding a private school in Colorado (Regis University) that agreed to his terms. Before him, they had never sent a player to the big leagues.

    • James said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:48 pm

      Jaso’s wearing his hair.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 26, 2017 at 12:42 am

      My University, Regis.

  16. snarkk said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    Can we get a goddam outfielder from somewhere? Anywhere?
    Can’t this front office see that this outfield is the shits?
    Did they have an OFer in the trade, then Nunie got hit on the elbow and they had to settle for a pitcher and a 3bman? Another 3dbman? 10 second look at each dude on Baseball reference. Totally underwhelmed.
    WTF?!!!

    • James said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:41 pm

      We need pitchers, too. As much as OFers.

      • snarkk said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:42 pm

        We need OFers. Stat !…

  17. unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    Dont know if it’s them, but the grapevine is rustling . . .

  18. Flavor said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:44 pm

  19. snarkk said, on July 25, 2017 at 9:52 pm

    I’d like to know the timing of this Nunie trade. As if the local scribes will figure that out.
    If Evans was in the middle of final negotiations to trade his ass, yet they were playing him, and he gets hit on the elbow by a pitch, that is just flat incompetent, stoopid management. Just idiotic. I hope it did not go down that way, but it sure looks like it…

    • sandog said, on July 25, 2017 at 10:02 pm

      Good point. And that shot to the elbow may still complicate this deal. Nunie ain’t exactly Cal Ripken when it comes to getting dinged up.

      • snarkk said, on July 25, 2017 at 10:12 pm

        Schulman has already speculated that the shot on the elbow will complicate what should have been a routine physical by the RSox to confirm the deal…

  20. Macdog said, on July 25, 2017 at 10:29 pm

    From Boston Globe reporter: The Red Sox are sending RHP Shaun Anderson (3.99 ERA in HiA Salem) and 17-yr-old RHP Gregory Santos (0.90 ERA in 30 IP in the DSL) to SF.

  21. djloo27 said, on July 25, 2017 at 10:30 pm

    I think Olive Oyl sizzles in this video:

    • zumiee said, on July 25, 2017 at 10:32 pm

  22. zumiee said, on July 25, 2017 at 10:39 pm

    The Red Sox are going to try another Giants third baseman. That’s some chutzpah.

  23. djloo27 said, on July 25, 2017 at 10:48 pm

    We got a fuckin’ 17 year old for Nunie?
    I’ll be in assisted living before he’s in the majors…

    • Macdog said, on July 25, 2017 at 10:53 pm

      Giants top draft pick Heliot Ramos also is 17.

      • djloo27 said, on July 25, 2017 at 11:11 pm

        He was 15:

  24. unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2017 at 11:02 pm

    Cain hit the bigs at 20. So was Bummie.

  25. unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2017 at 11:07 pm

    Hey Toomgis, you have some botulism on your face . . .

  26. willedav said, on July 26, 2017 at 5:29 am

    Hey was the answer Dodgers C Norm Sherry? He was part of bro battery, and the pitcher was relief guy who helped LA win the WS in ’59. That was first baseball I remember watching, Aparicio/Nellie Fox of the Go Go Sox.


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