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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 16, 2017

Very solid win last night. I think the WAB bumped up to .600 since Aug 4th. I know, I know, we are really hurting without all those walks he took (in between all the strikeouts).

Cain is listed as the starting P today at espn. Is that a misprint?

We can’t even pray for rain in this damn dome…..

 

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  1. unca_chuck said, on August 16, 2017 at 8:16 am

    I’m going with WWP.

    Wins with Pablo. A decent .555 clip.

  2. chipower9 said, on August 16, 2017 at 8:17 am

    The site I use for line-ups has Cain listed, too…

    1. Denard Span (L) CF
    2. Hunter Pence (R) RF
    3. Jarrett Parker (L) LF
    4. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B
    5. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    6. Nick Hundley (R) C
    7. Ryder Jones (L) 1B
    8. Kelby Tomlinson (R) 2B
    9. Matt Cain (R) P

  3. unca_chuck said, on August 16, 2017 at 8:19 am

    Belt likely misses the last 2 months of the season and still lead the team in home runs.

    • Stan Shell said, on August 16, 2017 at 12:01 pm

      Chuck, I read where the Cubs draft primarily position players and use surplus as Trade chips for pitching plus FA’s. Imagine you guys have talked this out before but it is new to me. Other than running counter to Giants three rings this decade, I still think I agree with the concept. Sure looks right for this year at least. Imagine an “average power guy” leading the Giants even though he misses two months. Pathetic. Your thoughts?

  4. James said, on August 16, 2017 at 8:22 am

    Ryder’s K/BB ratio in his last 273 PAs gives me some small hope that I’ll have an adequate Belt substitute when the latter is told to hang ’em up. SF will need it, since Belt was one of two above average hitters on this year’s roster.

  5. willedav said, on August 16, 2017 at 8:23 am

    WAB, lol. Jones hasn’t been near as bad since he got back into action second go round after the prolonged 0 for his first hit. You might have seen permanent end of Belt in SF uni.
    Read that Mac hit 2 bombs in Sac. Shaw is still down there. Gomez eligible to come off DL next Tuesday. Slater supposedly making great progress and hopes to come back next month.
    So what type of LU would everyone care to see once call ups happen?
    What do you do with all the OFs? Leave Sando in there vs. everyone? Where might Jones best fit- 3b or 1b?
    How much of what happens rest of 2017 with the kids carries over into what 2018 could look like?

    • Flavor said, on August 16, 2017 at 9:48 am

      if the Giants keep winning with Pablo at 3rd and Ryder at 1st I’d like to just keep watching that.

  6. willedav said, on August 16, 2017 at 8:29 am

    Looking at B/R today, saw that Pence and Span have exact same number of PAs and ABs.
    However…Span has 14 more doubles/2 more triples/2 less HRs. BA is 19 points higher, slugging 50 OPS 75.
    I mean, that’s how far Pence has fallen off the table…and owed $18 mil next year.
    I still think there’s a playoff team that might take him on waiver deal if Giants would cover $$$.

  7. sandog said, on August 16, 2017 at 9:01 am

    Anybody have the latest figures on our WSLRHT?
    (Wins Since Loo Reorganized His Tupperware)

    • Flavor said, on August 16, 2017 at 9:48 am

      betting Loo can get you this number a little later today…..

  8. unca_chuck said, on August 16, 2017 at 11:17 am

    Guess we get to see how Specs works out as a starter. Maybe give us room to shop Panik next year.

  9. snarkk said, on August 16, 2017 at 11:59 am

    Cain already out in 5th and down by 5, I think. No idea what happened, but I can guess if he did start. I thought he was the long man?…

    • sandog said, on August 16, 2017 at 12:02 pm

      Box Score makes it look like he pitched alright—-only 2 of the runs earned and struck out 7 in 4 innings.

      • Flavor said, on August 16, 2017 at 12:09 pm

        At work, not watching, but why did cain start?

      • unca_chuck said, on August 16, 2017 at 12:34 pm

        Services rendered I’d imagine,

      • djloo27 said, on August 16, 2017 at 12:41 pm

        They want to get him win #20 (in the past 5 years)…

  10. unca_chuck said, on August 16, 2017 at 12:47 pm

    @ .500 with WWP

  11. unca_chuck said, on August 16, 2017 at 12:49 pm

    The dogs are 50 games over .500? Damn. Gonna be a shame to see them choke again in the playoffs.

    • djloo27 said, on August 16, 2017 at 12:54 pm

      And the Giants don’t even have 50 wins…

    • djloo27 said, on August 16, 2017 at 1:48 pm

      It’s their year, Chuck.
      I can’t see anyone stopping them…

  12. djloo27 said, on August 16, 2017 at 12:56 pm

    Matt Cain lifetime (all SF): 104-117
    Kirk Rueter as a Giant: 105-80

    • alleykat69 said, on August 16, 2017 at 1:10 pm

      More Homers for Cain then Woody looking for a bright spot..

    • djloo27 said, on August 16, 2017 at 2:03 pm

      Timmy: 108-83 (with SF)
      Schmidt: 78-37 (with SF)

      • snarkk said, on August 16, 2017 at 6:16 pm

        Compare run support…

  13. unca_chuck said, on August 16, 2017 at 1:02 pm

  14. zumiee said, on August 16, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    “We can’t even pray for rain in this damn dome…..”

    Made me laugh outloud.

  15. unca_chuck said, on August 16, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    Say what you will about Cain, but he was haunted by his early years with this team. He could easily have 10 more wins with anything resembling run support in 2007-2008. He went 15-30 with a respectable 3.69 era. Even 2010-2011, his record was at odds with his ERA. at or below 3 was Cain getting cained at 25-22.

    His stretch from 2006 to 2013 he WAS Matt the horse.

    • djloo27 said, on August 16, 2017 at 4:16 pm

      I would say his overall career was disappointing, but his 2010 postseason was incredible…

    • djloo27 said, on August 16, 2017 at 4:23 pm

      With run support Gibson would’ve won 33 games in ’68…

      • djloo27 said, on August 16, 2017 at 4:55 pm

        “Cards” still throws me 50 years later. They were able to fit “Athletics” which has as many letters as Cardinals…

      • alleykat69 said, on August 16, 2017 at 6:58 pm

        Yeah Loo with run support Bob Gibson easily could of had 30 wins. Their offense was weak to say the least. Orlando Cepeda had 16 bombs, Mike Shannon 15 bombs and that was pretty much it.. But their starting pitching led by Gibson, Briles,Carlton,Jasper etc got them 77 wins so that staff pitched their asses off..

      • Macdog said, on August 16, 2017 at 7:08 pm

        That was also the last season the mound was 5 inches higher.

  16. theroooster said, on August 16, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    Amusing how the baseball media and some fans projected so much gloom and doom for the Dodgers after Kershaw’s back was tweaked. And I know the Dodgers haven’t done anything and they’ll fail in the PS, and yada, yada, yada – I’m just talking about how some were saying it was going to affect the team to be without him going forward in the regular season : Dodgers starting pitchers since Clayton Kershaw’s last start (July 23): 10-0, 2.32 ERA in 19 games, 109 strikeouts and 27 walks in 108⅔ IP. So much for that.

    • zumiee said, on August 16, 2017 at 6:46 pm

      The doom and gloom probably didn’t exist as much as you think it did.

      • theroooster said, on August 16, 2017 at 7:15 pm

        There was some of it on ESPN and MLBN, but I’m probably incorporating all the madness I saw in the papers down here in LA, and of course, on the internet.

    • Flavor said, on August 16, 2017 at 6:50 pm

      I didn’t remember seeing anything here about doom and gloom. They are way out ahead, this isn’t very surprising they’ve kept it going. But those pitching stats since July 23rd are impressive, I don’t think anyone thought that would happen. Probably including you.

      • theroooster said, on August 16, 2017 at 7:18 pm

        No, I don’t remember seeing it here either, BF. Was talking more about the coverage that was down here.

      • Flavor said, on August 16, 2017 at 7:29 pm

        i start here for all my news and then spider out to other sites if I need to fill any gaps. Rarely happens tho. 🙂

  17. djloo27 said, on August 16, 2017 at 6:49 pm

  18. Flavor said, on August 16, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    No K’s for Yu tonight thru 4 vs the lowly White Sox. Hmmmm…..I’ve seen this before. Injury could be coming up soon. Not wanting to see it, I like Yu a lot, but when a K pitcher like Yu throws up a 0 for K’s in a start….all I’m saying is that I’ve seen it before, I’ve seen it before.

  19. Flavor said, on August 16, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    Gallo bomb. James. Re-wrap furn time.

    • James said, on August 16, 2017 at 8:57 pm

      Damn, he’s revolutionizing the game.

  20. James said, on August 16, 2017 at 8:36 pm

    It looks like Kershaw and Belt were impediments to their teams’ success in their own respective ways.

  21. James said, on August 16, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    I just looked up one of the two players I thought might be competition for Gallo: Dave Kingman. The Kong’s stats are surprising. All of his good years were accompanied by respectable batting averages:

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kingmda01.shtml

    In no season with significant numbers of PAs did he put up a >800 OPS without a BA >250

  22. James said, on August 16, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    Mark Reynolds was the other. 806 OPS with a 221 BA is getting there, but he’s still not nearly as special as Gallo.

  23. snarkk said, on August 16, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    The following is from Baggs’ twitter feed. And, I don’t how it strikes fellow Flappers, but this quote from Sabean strikes me as more than a little odd. It’s like he’s washed his hands of the entire situation. I’d like to get him at the hotel bar after a few scotches and with a gold watch swinging in front of his eyes, keep saying the mantra: “outfielders, outfielders, outfielders”…

    • Macdog said, on August 16, 2017 at 10:04 pm

      I saw that earlier, forgot to post it here but glad you did. Yeah, that is a bizarro comment from Sabes.

      • snarkk said, on August 16, 2017 at 10:20 pm

        I guess that means Sabes isn’t helping with any waiver wire trades…

  24. unca_chuck said, on August 16, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    He’s demoting himself to advance scout? He has to be better than John Barr…

  25. James said, on August 16, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    In between sips of a 22 year old Speyside single malt gifted to me over last weekend, I looked up the league K rate in 2017. It’s 22 %. Belt’s k rate is 23%.

    While SF honors Journey and Metallica:

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-dodgers-x-white-sox-20170726-story.html

    • xoot said, on August 17, 2017 at 12:15 am

      that’s not what I expected from the bums. They seem to be on some sort of remarkable roll this year. But will Dave Alvin be there, too? Still, I’ll take X over those two bay area bands and the effing G Dead too. On our side, Santana’s appearances and honors have been pretty good, however.

  26. snarkk said, on August 16, 2017 at 11:00 pm

    Check this out.
    Yes, it’s from Chavez Latrine, but this is genius marketing. Emirates is doing this in soccer stadiums in Europe, too. They did one in the Hamburg soccer stadium, it’s on youtube and even better than this one…

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