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Bochy Bullshit

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 14, 2017

Bruce Bochy after the game:

“This season is basically a learning season, a teachable season to get better. But our defense, the way it’s gotten away from us, is disappointing.”

What. The. Fuck. Is. He. Talking. About?

This is a *learning season*? A *teachable* season? This is a 172 million dollar payroll. One hundred and seventy two.

Bochy is spinning some serious yarn right now and anyone that falls for it is a dumbass. He’s talking like this is some fucking expansion team. What was Bochy doing last night when Eli Whiteside was stepping up and actually DOING something as a coach? What has Bochy done all season?

I’m so disgusted with this team and Bochy. I hope every last season ticket holder grabs Baer by the collar and sticks this in his ear hole: “We’re not fucking re-upping!!!!!!!”

There is nothing else that will get this clueless group off the nonsensical narrative that the 2018 Giants have a core that’s only a couple tweaks away from competing for the post season……

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  1. Flavor said, on September 14, 2017 at 5:18 am

    • Irish Kevin said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:18 am

      Wow, if they isn’t telling, I don’t know what is.

    • snarkk said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:11 am

      Baggarly’s game story in the Merc today is about the closest I’ve seen a beat guy call out this team. Collectively, the Giants scribes around here have let this team off the hook. If this were a high visibility, big market team in the East or Midwest, the fans and media would be crucifying the entire organization for a season and half of garbage. Since the AS break in 2016, the squad has gone something like a .380 clip. That is not just bad, it is unbelievably bad. At least Kuiper this morning admitted that if you are bad, at least don’t LOOK bad while you’re doing it. They can’t even say that. Any other organization, heads would have rolled by now, and most definitely in this coming offseason…

  2. willedav said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:36 am

    Wonder what the Tigers vid guy (forget his name) felt about the pitch that hit the ump in the shoulder in game vs. Cle yesterday after Ausmus and McCann got ejected for arguing with him? cbs site asked 5 commentators including M Axisa and all said they thought though it looked bad but was definitely not intentional; very serious allegation to question professionalism of players coaches organization they said.

    Most of the bloggers responses I’ve read disagree wholeheartedly, questioning C Hicks reaction time and lack of concern for the ump. Hmmnn.

    • Flavor said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:04 am

      He didn’t think it was intentional. I did.

    • snarkk said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:18 am

      The catcher didn’t even hang around to look at the ump on the ground to help him out. Catcher walked away to the mound. That didn’t look good. When the players and umps get to this kind of situation, it’s more evidence that it’s time to call in the robo ump behind the plate…

  3. Irish Kevin said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:29 am

    So who is trade able? Do the Giants trade their best player Posey and get a few good players or MadBum? I remember when Baer was called an idiot for trading Matt Williams. But that worked out.

  4. snarkk said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:02 am

    Bochy has been spinning crap for a season and a half. With so many losses, he’s run out of replaying the same old stuff, so now he’s really reaching. KNBR morning dudes today were actually questioning Bochy’s role in this train wreck, after Whiteside went off. Kuiper covered his ass, and said Bochy won’t go off in public, but vaguely, yeah, he does behind the doors of locker room. Well, if he has/is going off on the team, it has done no good…

  5. zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:26 am

    This was a teachable moment for the Titanic:

  6. Flavor said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:32 am

    MLB catchers don’t miss balls like that unless they get completely crossed up on the signals. Catcher didn’t get crossed up, he just slowly moved mitt to the place the ball was going to be, he just got their late—easiest way to let the ball hit the ump. I think that was completely intentional.

    • snarkk said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:48 am

      The umps are going to have a very big strike zone when that catcher bats the rest of the season…

    • djloo27 said, on September 14, 2017 at 10:44 am

      Jerry Grote was known to do that on occasion…

  7. xoot said, on September 14, 2017 at 10:37 am

    Anybody else notice this last night? Krukow: “Who are some of the young players you like?” Frank Robinson: “That’s a good question.” Pause. “Not too many.” Cut back to play on the field, and then no follow up.

  8. willedav said, on September 14, 2017 at 11:05 am

    Nice pic in Chron today of Robinson flanked by Mays and Willie Mac.
    Bochy: “Frank was one of my favorite players growing up” and, “I was a big Reds fan.”
    The Padres iirc were a Reds farm team before they joined the NL. Anyone have any idea what colors/unis looked like before Pads became ml franchise?

    Xoot that is interesting. I’d bet you’d be hard pressed to get too many complimentary things said about players today from guys Mays era. Just too much money involved and too different a game.

  9. djloo27 said, on September 14, 2017 at 11:16 am

    You could tell Frank was still upset 35 years later over the ending of the ’82 season.
    So am I…

    • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 11:50 am

      The feeling was a lot different out here on the West coast. The 49ers had won their first Super Bowl earlier that year, and the basking was very much full-on; and although it was disappointing that the Giants fell short, it was hard to get too upset about it. And the Giants also knocked the Dodgers out that weekend, of course, so that helped.

  10. zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 11:54 am

    If the 2017 Dodgers win the World Series, it’ll bug me a little, but not a whole lot. I’m glad they won’t break the season wins record. THAT would have bugged me. A bunch of Dodger fans going around calling the 2017 Dodgers the best team of all time would have really been a drag. Now the team is just struggling to get to a 100 wins, after their very strong start.

  11. zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    My ideal World Series this season would now be the Nats vs. the Astros. It wouldn’t be the ideal one for highest TV ratings, but it would be a bunch of people that wouldn’t be annoying to me. Maybe Dusty gets his first championship as a manager. That would be cool. I’ve had my share of positive and negative feelings about Dusty over the years, but that would be a nice story if he won it.

    • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 12:05 pm

      Harper is annoying, but he’s had his share of adversity now. The game has humbled him at least a little bit by now.

  12. willedav said, on September 14, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    Kinda funny to see displaced fans out here whose teams haven’t won in long time sporting the gear afterward..red sox, cubs. Who would ever wear Cubs junk around? Now it’s everywhere.
    Don’t think I could handle Dodger blue. Giants fans can’t really say anything like “Finally!” because they could go get a couple more lot sooner than Giants.

  13. theroooster said, on September 14, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    “I misjudged both balls. The wind must be carrying more than usual. Our system is … I’m going to call it super-early and go for it and scream bloody murder. My read was off. I needed to just go get it.” — Pence, who watched a harmless, catchable fly ball drop beyond the second baseman and in front of him in right field for the second night in a row.

    • theroooster said, on September 14, 2017 at 2:31 pm

      Kinda weird – sounds like he’s making that up as he goes along

      • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 3:03 pm

        Hey, we didn’t hear from you while the Dodgers were losing 11 games in a row. What a coincidence.

      • theroooster said, on September 14, 2017 at 3:43 pm

        The world is so unpredictable. Things happen suddenly, unexpectedly. We want to feel we are in control of our own existence. In some ways we are, in some ways we’re not. We are ruled by the forces of chance and coincidence.

      • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 4:04 pm

  14. snarkk said, on September 14, 2017 at 2:39 pm

    Pence has played a crappy RF all season. He’s not getting to liners he used to get, like last night; plus the misplays like last night. He’s lost a step. There are reasons the SF OF is the worst in baseball; he’s one of them. His $18million next yer is a real problem; they need a solution. Like eat most of his deal and trade him for a single A body, any body…

    • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 3:05 pm

      Unfortunately we’re going to get the craptastic duo of Pence and Span in the outfield again next season. And probably some retread as the 3rd guy, or some horrible platoon pair. Oh it’s going to be ugly again next season.

      • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 3:06 pm

        Hey, let’s just go full tank-mode and get high draft picks. I’m warming up to that idea.

  15. Flavor said, on September 14, 2017 at 3:09 pm

    • djloo27 said, on September 14, 2017 at 6:31 pm

      I still think it sounds like “Oh good!”

  16. Flavor said, on September 14, 2017 at 5:40 pm

    “a learning season. a teachable season to get better.” I still can’t get over how ludicrous that statement was. And Loo is right, Whiteside should be the next manager. Not just because he spoke up but because I want a manager with a bit of an attitude. Bochy is great when he’s got the right guys, he knows how to push the buttons when his team is good. But when they suck he’s damn near worthless. I’d like these overpaid suckoffs to have to answer to Whiteside every day of the year…..

  17. sandog said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    I’m officially getting a little tired of Tiger Guy….
    There—-I said it.
    Maybe it’s the new haircut.

    • Flavor said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:35 pm

      the new haircut was bugging me too. He drew shit on the side of his head the way the college bball players of the late 80’s would do. I actually kinda miss that look, but on a college bball player, not a college student.

  18. zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    Not a stellar season and a half for Righetti either. A high percentage of the pitchers haven’t improved or are getting worse.

  19. zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    Cleveland ties it in the bottom of the 9th.

  20. zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    2 HRs, 6 RBIs for Judge today. All rise!

  21. zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:28 pm

    Cleveland still has the racist logo on their uniforms.

    • xoot said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:31 pm

      I think it looks like a racist cartoon caricature with big middle finger above it, aimed right at us

  22. xoot said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:30 pm

    Anybody here ride BART? I try to avoid it (the transbay bus is infinitely more comfortable), but I still take BART home after Giants games. This site is essential. Today’s (Sept. 14’s) crimes aren’t all that unusual, but check out yesterday’s. Turns out robberies and assaults on the trains, at all times and on all lines, are pretty common.
    https://www.bartcrimes.com/date/2017-09-13/

    • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:35 pm

      I’ve never had a BART-related crime committed against me. I only ride it a few times a year, though.

    • snarkk said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:12 pm

      Lots of stealing of catalytic converters from cars in the parking lots…

  23. zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    Cleveland: 22 straight.

    • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:37 pm

      Giants hold the MLB record of 26.

      • xoot said, on September 14, 2017 at 7:59 pm

        I think that Giants record is the “unbeaten” one–right in the middle of that streak there was a tie. 1916? Must’ve been darkness. A win streak’s another thing.

      • xoot said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:02 pm

        guess it was rain. the tie stood, but they also replayed the game and the Giants won. weird rules

      • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:03 pm

        Ah, good point.
        Yeah, it used to be all day games in those days. Often 3:00 starting times.

      • Flavor said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:14 pm

        I’m rooting for the Indians to break the record. Records from 1916 are stupid.

      • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:47 pm

        Jack London died in 1916. He wasn’t into baseball. He was into boxing and fencing. And riding horses.

      • djloo27 said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:56 pm

        The 1916 Kentucky Derby was won by George Smith.
        That was the horse’s name – not the jockey.

      • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:00 pm

        That is an awesome name for a horse. Instantly my favorite.

  24. theroooster said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    Going into a doubleheader against the Pirates at home on Sept. 18, the Giants were riding an 11-game winning streak. In the first game of the day, the Giants got a shutout from starter Ferdie Schupp, winning 2-0 for their 12th victory in a row.
    The second game of the twin bill, however, wasn’t as straightforward. After eight completed innings, the score was deadlocked when rain interrupted play. There were no tarps back then and no lights in the stadium. By the time the rain subsided, umpires Bill Klem and Bob Emslie ruled it was too dark. The game as it stood could not continue.
    In 1916, there was no “suspension” rule pertaining to called games, where, like today, games are picked up where they left off. (In fact, that’s a recent development, having only been implemented in 2007)
    Back then, games were normally replayed in their entirety if the scheduled permitted, and on Tuesday, Sept. 19, 1916, the Giants swept yet another doubleheader from the Pirates — with the first game being a replay of Game 2 the day before — and extended the streak to 14. They went on to win another 12 in a row before finally losing, 8-3 to the Boston Braves, in the second game of a doubleheader on Sept. 30. (Fun facts: The record streak happened over the course of a 31-game homestand, meaning every single win came at home, just a couple of months after the aforementioned 17-game winning streak on the road. Oh, and despite those two amazing streaks, the Giants finished in fourth place, though they were 20 games over .500 at 86-66.)

    • xoot said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:41 pm

      aforementioned? wtf?

      • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:52 pm

        That part got spliced out, I guess.

      • djloo27 said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:58 pm

  25. zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:57 pm

    Xoot, you ever get into Jack London? So much of his life was spent relatively close to the Bay, including attending high school in Oakland.

    • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 8:58 pm

      Jack wrote for the school newspaper, which isn’t surprising.

      • xoot said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:22 pm

        The Sea Wolf was one of my favorite books when I was a kid. HIs Alaska tales are good. Jack London Square, on the estuary in Oakland, has been a local feature forever. Low down in the old days; upscale now.

      • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:36 pm

        I was sorry to hear the Barnes and Noble had closed.

  26. zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    This is Jack, a few days before he died at age 40 from kidney failure. Nothing they could do in those days.
    He’s holding a baby pig at his ranch in Glen Ellen, now a California State Park, a wonderful place to visit. I’ve been there several times.

  27. zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    He published about 50 books. Some brilliant, some not so good. He was more a great short story writer than a great novelist. Also wrote some non-fiction.

    • xoot said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:24 pm

      His description, probably for a newspaper–I’m not sure, of the fires following the 1906 SF earthquake was brilliant.

      • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:30 pm

        Yes. I read that. It includes photos he took. He was a very good photographer.

      • xoot said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:40 pm

        I checked. He got an assignment from Collier’s magazine and hustled down to SF after the quake. The part of the resulting article that I know well appeared as an example of good writing in a rhetoric manual put together by Robert Penn Warren and Cleanth Brooks. I read that many many years ago. That section in London’s article is entitled The Fire Made It’s Own Draft.
        http://www.sfmuseum.net/hist5/jlondon.html

      • zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:51 pm

        He had a knack for being at big events of his time.

  28. zumiee said, on September 14, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    A book in honor of one of the Flappers.

    • snarkk said, on September 14, 2017 at 10:49 pm

      Jack packed a lot of livin’ into only 40 years of life…


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