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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 29, 2017

Maybe I’ll re-energize once the post season starts, but I can’t wait for this baseball season to end. Bobby Evans was on KNBR yesterday telling everyone he’s really excited about targeting free agents who can play great defense. Ugh. I can’t listen to this guy anymore. He’s the one-est of one trick ponies.

I’m still into the NFL and the NBA is great as long as you are one of about 5 or 6 fan bases. Breeders Cup weekend is in November and the prep run up for that is massive. So sports will continue, as usual, to be a big part of my life.

But I’m ready to put baseball to bed for the winter……

 

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  1. zumiee said, on September 29, 2017 at 6:43 am

    I’ll be into the playoffs. There’s a lot of interesting story-lines.

    • zumiee said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:05 am

      Can someone knock off the Dodgers?
      Will the Cubs repeat?
      Will the Nats stop being the Nats?
      Aaron Judge!
      Nunie in the playoffs!
      Cleveland and their racist logo.
      Verlander as an Astro.

  2. willedav said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:03 am

    Agreed Flav. Unlikely to watch any baseball this weekend. Playoffs, if Dodgers get eliminated maybe. otherwise no.
    One reason I doubt Baer and his bean counters allow Bum to be traded would be he (and Panik) represents one of few guys on team that provide value vs. salary.

    Pence and Span get $30 mil next year, so do Craw and Belt. Add in Posey at $20 mil, Smardz Cueto Melancon at $55 mil., those 8 guys alone total $130 mil plus. Bum is still relative bargain comparatively.

  3. dirtnrocksnomo said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:35 am

    Booby is just not a very inspiring guy. Having Baer the Prima Dona constantly working the media probably doesn’t help his cause. Is there another MLB team president in the league that rolls with a similar act? I’m just a season ticket holding lemming but I think they can turn this thing around without blowing it up. That said, I resent Booby for allowing me to care about football in September.

    • willedav said, on September 29, 2017 at 8:11 am

      Dirt you probably saw them live more often than anyone here. General impression of crowd around you—pissed and down on mgmt or think it was one off brad penny year? If you are gonna re-up, what type of team would you like to see on field next year?
      Cain didn’t get comeback award, but he is going out with class and total respect of his peers.

  4. willedav said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:49 am

    Hope Davante Adams is OK. Pride of East Palo Alto (also known as Dodge City back in the day and home of Rudy Law an old fav), football and b-ball star at Palo Alto HS(notable alums include Harbs and Flav), played 2 years only of college ball at Fresno State before turning pro and caught 233 passes there.

  5. unca_chuck said, on September 29, 2017 at 8:17 am

    Want to know what is wrong with the NFL? Here’s your answer in a nutshell.

    This:

    Equals this:

    Couldn’t find a gif of the shot Trevathan laid on Adams, but if you missed it, Trevathan should have been ejected from the game. I thought Adams was possibly dead after the hit.

    The call on Von Miller gave Buffalo the opportunity to run the clock down, kick a FG and win the game. So, Denver loses because of a funny little moment in an otherwise intense game. Meanwhile Davante Adams is in the hospital luckily not paralyzed or brain-damaged. Well, as of now.

    It is getting harder and harder to put up with all this nonsense.

  6. unca_chuck said, on September 29, 2017 at 8:47 am

    Zume, speaking of Rush, I’ve been on an Aerosmith jag. Their first album is highly underrated. The opening song, one-way street, and Mama Kin are great. Same with Get your wings.

    From the last thread re: Renteria’s home run, my favorite part of that is the utter disappointment in Joe Fuck’s voice as the ball cleared the wall.

  7. snarkk said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:12 am

    This offseason is where the rubber meets road for giants front office. This org prints money. It should not be trotting out lineups like those we’ve seen this year. Down years happen, sure. But 100 loss seasons can’t happen when you’re this long gone from the Stick. Management and ownership need to decide if this is a baseball team or a real estate developer…

    • djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:19 am

      Love that last line, Snarkk. It should really start with the manager. I wish they’d let Wotus fiddleedee with this same crew next season with Whitey as his bench coach. El Presidente can step in with some new players hopefully in 2019…

  8. alleykat69 said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:14 am

    Almost choked on my coffee when Murph&Mac brought up the Willie Mac award and mentioned Matt Cain for it.
    They shouldn’t even give out the award this year.But I guess they have to do Buster has it for me, just because he’s been overall consistent atleast with the avg..

    • djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:20 am

      My vote goes to Dan Slania, but I think Crawford’s a lock…

  9. snarkk said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:41 am

    I’d give the Willie Mac to Murph. He’s had to clean up after this mess all season…

  10. Flavor said, on September 29, 2017 at 10:07 am

    WIllie Mac is going to Hundley according to the morning guys on KNBR this am. Not sure how they knew this.

    • djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 1:52 pm

      It’s a nice going away present…

  11. alleykat69 said, on September 29, 2017 at 10:08 am

    Good call Snarkk, the stench of this season makes Murph a great pick! Stretch would agree with it..

  12. zumiee said, on September 29, 2017 at 11:49 am

    Scary to think of it, but there’s a scenario where the Giants could actually be worse next season. If all the declining players with big contracts keep declining.

    • zumiee said, on September 29, 2017 at 11:49 am

      Embrace the tank, and go for high draft picks again next season.

  13. Stan Shell said, on September 29, 2017 at 11:51 am

    How we have fallen! Instead of wondering how pitchers line up for the playoffs, we are focusing on 100 losses. Seen a couple of mentions of draft picks, but no sure things.
    To me the big question is do they blow this up or just tinker on the edge(my prediction).
    What I would do:
    1. Replace Bochy with younger ex-player.
    2. Keep Pence (maybe 2017 WAS an aberration).
    3. DFA Span, Calixte, Gorkys. Don’t let them take away spring training at bats from other prospects.
    4. Sign a back up catcher and let Hundley catch full time. Move Posey to first and trade Belt for whatever they can get. Super fast OFr that hits line drives prospect would be perfect.
    5. Keep Crawford and Panic.
    6. Have open audition at 3rd (including the Fat Man).
    7. Trade or DFA at least two of Osich, Okert, Strickland, Suarez.
    8. Give extra chances to Moncrief, Arroyo and Slater.
    9. Send Ryder Jones back to the minors
    10. And…..Hold your breath and hope Melancon recovers and is the closer.

    OSF

    • zumiee said, on September 29, 2017 at 11:57 am

      Interesting list. I’m not as big a fan of Hundley as some here. For one thing, I have a hard time remembering any runners he threw out, but I remember some throws that went into centerfield.

    • djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 1:40 pm

      1. Apparently not happening
      2. No choice
      3. Span & Gorks are on the team next year. Calixte is a hologram.
      4. Hundley could be a very sought after FA. The Posey/Belt thing has been beaten to death.
      5. Crawford’s never leaving. Panik has some trade value.
      6. Your best one!
      7. Strickland has some trade value. The other 3 look like shit most of the time.
      8. Arroyo and Slater definitely will. Moncrief is another hologram.
      9. Looks like shit most of the time.
      10. No choice

      • Stan Shell said, on September 29, 2017 at 1:45 pm

        Loo, I realize there are “shortcomings” in my suggestions. But, I didn’t have much to work with. Sigh……

        OSF

      • djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 1:51 pm

        It’s a very nice effort.
        Shows you care…

  14. zumiee said, on September 29, 2017 at 11:54 am

    Cool:
    “On Friday, Major League Baseball announced that the World Series Most Valuable Player award will be renamed in honor of Giants all-time great Willie Mays. The award will still be presented by Chevrolet and officially renamed to the Willie Mays World Series Most Valuable Player award.”

    • djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 12:24 pm

      If they had any guts, they would name it after Reggie Jackson…

      • blade3colorado said, on September 29, 2017 at 10:25 pm

        Agree. Willie Mays is my all time hero after Ali. However, he didn’t accomplish squat in the World Series. More appropriate to rename the All Star game after him, where he made his mark – more than any other player in the history of that annual game.

    • unca_chuck said, on September 29, 2017 at 2:27 pm

      I just hope they keep the goofy dude who presented the award to Bummie a couple years ago.

      • djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 2:53 pm

      • wilcojoe said, on September 29, 2017 at 4:25 pm

        That video never gets old. Selig’s facial expressions are priceless.

      • Flavor said, on September 29, 2017 at 4:47 pm

        it’s so great. Imagine how wet with sweat those keys were that he handed Bum

      • sfsarge said, on September 29, 2017 at 4:52 pm

        That is still one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen on live TV.

      • unca_chuck said, on September 29, 2017 at 8:38 pm

        Technology and stuff. Classic. . . . Selig looks like he’s gonna puke or go blind.

  15. unca_chuck said, on September 29, 2017 at 2:24 pm

    OK, I’m game.

    1. Not gonna happen barring health complications.

    2. Pence? I was hoping he’d follow Matt Cain’s lead and retire. Otherwise he’s our most expensive 4th OFer. I hope.

    3. Yes, Shitcan those guys.

    4. Hundley is 35. If he’s the starting catcher, say hello to 110 losses. Posey isn’t as good at 1st, and Belt is the only guy on the team remotely close to being a home run hitter.

    5. Craw stays, Panik may go if Booby gets a wild hair up his ass. Doubtful though.

    6. Arroyo at 3rd till he proves he ain’t it. Unless El Gordo shows up at a legit 210. Fat chance.

    7. All of the relievers not named Melancon, Dyson, Suarez, or TFLR go. Strchnyne has worn out his welcome. Trade him for a couple fungoes and a rubber.

    8. Moncrief is a fart in the wind. Arroyo and Slater get long looks.

    9. I Know You Ryder can rent a truck and drive to Sacto.

    10. I’d give the job to Dyson until Melancon proves he can do it. Salary be damned.

  16. zumiee said, on September 29, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    It’s got to be a weird feeling for Bochy at the end of this season. He basically couldn’t make any impact on the team. Other than earn a season’s salary, I wonder what he points to this season and feels good about his managing. I’m not saying any other manager would have done any better with this group, but that’s sort of my point. Bochy wasn’t able to manage above replacement level this season.

  17. Flavor said, on September 29, 2017 at 4:45 pm

    listening to Raggs on KNBR this afternoon, he starting fucking crying when talking about Matt Cain. Tearing up. Whatever. He couldn’t speak he became so overwhelmed with emotion.
    I don’t get that way about Matt Cain……

  18. Flavor said, on September 29, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    For me I’d put him well above those guys. But I still wouldn’t start crying talking about him.

    • djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 5:52 pm

      Cain is not in Marichal’s universe…

      • Flavor said, on September 29, 2017 at 6:24 pm

        on numbers, of course not. But Marichal and Perry mean nothing to me.

      • Stan Shell said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:55 pm

        BF, not your fault if you never had the pleasure of rooting/watching Perry or Marichal. Marichal was brilliant from day one. Possibly better than Kerhsaw. Perry was almost as good. On the same team. Team mates weren’t bad either.

      • blade3colorado said, on September 29, 2017 at 10:31 pm

        Exactly. Cain should never be in the same sentence as Marichal.

    • xoot said, on September 29, 2017 at 6:46 pm

      I wasn’t a Giants fan in the 60s and early 70s but I revered Marichal. I kept a copy of that Time magazine with the cover story on him for a long time. My parents finally threw it out when we moved one year. Bob Gibson also captured my imagination, but not as much. Cain’s a great Giant; he and Lincecum and Omar got us through some tough years. But come on.

  19. willedav said, on September 29, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    At least during the time Cain has struggled we haven’t had to listen to the Zito-like nonsense about “trusting my stuff” yada yada. He and the missus lived in Noe Valley part of SF for a while, right? Must have been quite an eye opening adjustment from small town Tennessee/Alabama roots.

  20. snarkk said, on September 29, 2017 at 6:57 pm

    This Cain thing and all the Saran Wrap associated is balderdash, IMO. He’s been a good pitcher. Not great. Early in career he had no run support, constantly. If he had, maybe he’d be 20 games above .500 or so. This is a celebration way more than deserved, especially because of this S season. In their prime, no question I take Timmy over Cain if I have to win a game 7…

  21. Flavor said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    People forget: we had to sign one of them. Letting them both go wasn’t an option. They chose Cain and then somehow, I forget specifically how, we ended up with Timmy too on a 2 year deal. As I recall that was a surprise am I remembering that correctly? In the end it didn’t matter. Both were straight up awful from 2012 onward.

    • snarkk said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:09 pm

      I don’t blame Cain much. Giants KNEW he had Stinson Beach in his elbow, yet signed him to the LT deal anyway. After he had the surgery on the elbow, he was crap thereafter, which was a risk they had to know existed when they extended him, but did it anyway. Basically 4 of the 6 seasons on the contract were useless to near useless. Lesson for Bum…

    • djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:11 pm

      I’m pretty sure at some point Tim turned down 4/80 million…

      • snarkk said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:11 pm

        Wasn’t it 5/100?…

      • djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:29 pm

        Maybe it was, Snarkk. I see in B/R that Tim made some nice bucks well after his big years but probably made a mistake earlier…

      • snarkk said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:35 pm

        Whatever it was, he could have jammed up the Giants almost as badly as Cain did. Tim took 2 years for $37 million or something like that in his last deal…

  22. Flavor said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    Hundley. No surprise. I thought Whitey shoulda won. They should allow you to vote for coaches.

  23. snarkk said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    Hundley gets Willie Mac award.
    In a disastrous season, seems apropos. Yawn…

    • Flavor said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:20 pm

      He was peppy. He was upbeat.That apparently goes a long way with the voters for this award.

      • djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:26 pm

        Ironically, 2 characteristics McCovey was not especially known for…

    • snarkk said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:33 pm

      Krukow proudly announced to the crowd that Hundley “boasted” a .701 OPS.
      Huh? In a season of crap, Giants are heading towards Drumpf PR territory…

  24. snarkk said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    Slater out up to two months — sports hernia surgery.
    I like the kid, but dang, you gotta be able to play for a while without needing surgeries…

    • djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:50 pm

      Good opportunity for someone to step up between now and Thanksgiving…

  25. djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    Somewhere in China they are frantically knitting Panda hats…

  26. sandog said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:52 pm

    Well, that’s not gonna help us lose 100 games….

  27. Stan Shell said, on September 29, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    Maybe we could sign a phenom from Asia! (How’s that for grasping at straws).

  28. Stan Shell said, on September 29, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    ?

  29. sandog said, on September 29, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    Angel Hernandez looks a little like Richard Gere

  30. sandog said, on September 29, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    I’d sooner DFA Pence than Span

    • snarkk said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:27 pm

      I’d be up for the Daily Double…

  31. unca_chuck said, on September 29, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    YES! Well, I’m with Pence on the bench and Span in the stands.

    I’m hoping Pence pulls a Cain and retires. Cain was a good pitcher who suffered from some hard luck, but he’s nowhere near Marichal or Perry territory. Marichal was, with Bob Gibson, scarier than fuck to face as a batter.

    Perry was just a loose cannon who managed to win a shitload of games for years and years and years. I was so pissed when they traded him for dog shit.

  32. xoot said, on September 29, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    I think the NL MVP award should bear the Mays name. The WS MVP? wtf? If they had any guts mlb would name that after Whitey Ford.

    • unca_chuck said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:07 pm

      Or Bummie . . .

      • xoot said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:39 pm

        yeah, why not pump up his endorsement value while he’s still playing

  33. djloo27 said, on September 29, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    Can you believe it?

    • snarkk said, on September 29, 2017 at 8:58 pm

      Phhuuuuuuckkkk Walter Alston and his who gives a crap 20 years of 1 year deals. And, I don’t recognize that other guy in the pic…

      • unca_chuck said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:09 pm

        I really wanted him to pull a Jackie . . .

  34. xoot said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    the padres look like they really didn’t much want to visit SF this weekend

    weak RH AB from Pablo, there

  35. sandog said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    Shit. 100 losses. 43 games back of the Dodgers. 11 games behind the Pads. I wanted all of it.
    They’re all gone.

    • snarkk said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:20 pm

      Well, I’m not going to sulk about my shattered dreams of historic Giants failure.
      Nope. No sireee.
      So, onward to an underwhelming offseason…

  36. pawliekokonuts said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    Like “the one-est of one trick ponies.”

  37. unca_chuck said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:52 pm

    How many K’s for Stratton?

    • sandog said, on September 29, 2017 at 10:00 pm

      7

  38. xoot said, on September 29, 2017 at 9:54 pm

    El gordo has some game left yet. Go pablito, go

  39. unca_chuck said, on September 29, 2017 at 10:24 pm

    Like I said, if he comes back at a legit 210, I’d give him a shot.

  40. zumiee said, on September 29, 2017 at 10:34 pm

    Bret Michaels?? I’m drinking this right now. I like it.
    “Diet Snapple Trop-A-Rocka Tea, which was co-developed by POISON singer Bret Michaels, blends healthy green tea and tasty black tea with pear, cinnamon and mango flavors to create a rockin’ taste with low calories.
    “Diet Snapple Trop-A-Rocka has been one of the best-selling limited-time-offers in Snapple history,” said Regan Ebert, vice president of marketing for Snapple. “We’re proud to work with Bret to continue making this wildly popular tea available to Snapple fans nationwide.””

    • zumiee said, on September 29, 2017 at 10:35 pm

      I really hate his band, though.

  41. Macdog said, on September 29, 2017 at 11:10 pm

    USC no longer among the undefeated.


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