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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 1, 2017

“well it’s time for me to go, an autumn moon lights my way….”

 

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And with that, the Matt Cain era comes to an end.

And today, this miserable season does the same…..

 

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  1. Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 7:44 am

    • zumiee said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:11 am

      Home runs? What are those?

      • Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:51 am

        they should do a chart like this for Giants hitters but just show all the foul balls they hit

      • snarkk said, on October 1, 2017 at 9:50 am

        Stanton spray chart — I’d say that would work at ATT. Just not going to happen…

  2. willedav said, on October 1, 2017 at 9:05 am

    Thanks again Flav for keeping things rolling all year. Well done as always, with this one obviously being lot less enjoyable to follow and come up with something fresh and new every day at the ungodly hour you do it.

    Nice pic too of 2 great guys on opposite side of Cal/Stanford line.
    And cracked up over , “I’d love to be Milwaukee.” Even this late in season, nothing getting past Loo.

  3. snarkk said, on October 1, 2017 at 10:04 am

    Enjoyed a nice visit with BF at the track yesterday.
    He taught me a few nuggets about the ponies, and a bit on how to bet intelligently. Like most things in life, there’s far more to it than appearances would suggest. My horse experience has been bitten by one when I was 5, getting a sore ass riding one a couple of times, and raiding the bank account for riding lessons for a decade for the older snarkette. It was time yesterday for the equine balance sheet to get an entry on the other side.

    I can see now where intelligent people like BF could find an interest in it, along with the spectacle. While the hoi polloi are drinking and betting on the nose and tearing up tickets, he’s got some analytical method working that limits risk, yet could end up in a substantial reward.

    BTW, BF how’d that Pick 4 end up ? — when I left you had 3 for 3…

    • Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 11:45 am

      i hit the pick 4. It paid $231. Nothing outrageous but always thankful for a score. Great seeing you yesterday, really enjoyed the visit.

  4. dirtnrocksnomo said, on October 1, 2017 at 10:07 am

    I thought the send off for Cain was done well. Probably because Cain is generally understated and Baer didn’t get his greasy hands all over it.

  5. snarkk said, on October 1, 2017 at 10:20 am

    Like willied notes above, I congratulated BF yesterday on his work in another outstanding season here. He captained this good ship USS Flap through a season-long mix of bad seas, Roaring Forties, and doldrums. It’s not easy putting out good ledes for this thread on a daily basis under the most adverse team conditions imaginable. We agreed this was the worst season in SF history. This POS squad didn’t quite match the 100 Ls of the 1985 team debacle, but this team was more talented to start, with a payroll that doesn’t even brook legit comparison.

    Thanks BF for your efforts at keeping us all afloat…

    • djloo27 said, on October 1, 2017 at 10:42 am

      Wish I coulda wrote that…

  6. mrsprtdude said, on October 1, 2017 at 10:53 am

    I know it isn’t followed with the same interest, but the number 1 pick would be nice. As Craig pointed out our success with top picks is pretty good. harper, strasberg Posey types are picked #1. It will give us something to talk about next June for sure, when we are breaking down why next years team and complaining that management made no changes, a very real possibility. Either injuries or bad year / high contracts leave Giants with 2 trade pieces worth having. Panik and Mad bum. Can’t see us trading those guys.
    Detroit faces Minn with nothing to play for, and throwing Colon. My hope is he pulls a Cain and pitches well in what will certainly be his last ever MLB start considering he is 100 years old and has an ERA north of 6…

    • Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 11:49 am

      totally agree. And at this point I just want something to look forward to besides the health of Austin Slater’s hip and whether Beede’s coming up for air from his journey 12 feet deep into pussy.

  7. mrsprtdude said, on October 1, 2017 at 10:54 am

    Thanks again Craig for another great year keeping us engaged, esspecially during this miserable season!

  8. Macdog said, on October 1, 2017 at 11:11 am

    I like the 1-hour earlier start time today since the season can’t end soon enough.

  9. Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 11:47 am

    yes, yes, your welcome to one and all. But let’s not waste this glorious day on reminiscing. We’ve got October baseball today! Let’s go!! Orange October!!! lqtm.

  10. Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 11:57 am

    • snarkk said, on October 1, 2017 at 2:34 pm

      “Fredi & Friends”, Finland entry into 1976 Eurovision contest…

  11. willedav said, on October 1, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    Speaking of October baseball which Giants of course won’t have anything more to do with, what’s up with Scherzer? Love to see Nats end all hopes of Cubs repeat.

    • Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 12:06 pm

      that was really bad luck for them. Nats downplaying it but it didn’t sound like nothing to me. And all I care about is the team that knocks out the Art Dealers. Again.

  12. mrsprtdude said, on October 1, 2017 at 12:32 pm

    Assuming AZ and NY win WC games the playoffs are as interesting as they could possibly be without SF
    Az-LA Obvious. How great would it be if AZ won? For 2 teams I dislike a lot i’ll be rooting HARD for AZ to beat the Rockies…
    Nats – Cubs a great series with lots of stars and Harper back. Love or hate him ( I LOVE him).
    Clev- Houston Boston all intriguing teams with stars and young up & coming players.
    Final Four potential of 3 100 win teams. When was the last time that happened?
    The WORST Div winners are Cubs and Red Sox..
    What series matchup are you rooting for??
    I’m up for Clev- Houston winner vs the Nats…

  13. mrsprtdude said, on October 1, 2017 at 12:38 pm

    Det -Minn game delayed by rain for 2 plus hours. Meaningless game so likely rainout? Does minn really want to play this game on a wet field? Just saw the teams warming up. Show must go on I guess

  14. Irish Kevin said, on October 1, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    I am at the game with my daughter Katherine, we are having a great time!

    • snarkk said, on October 1, 2017 at 2:15 pm

      Nice! Decent game, great weather.
      Any time spent at a ball game beats most things. Goes double for attending minor league tilts…

      • djloo27 said, on October 1, 2017 at 2:23 pm

        The racetrack is a great place for Flapalooza type gatherings with all the down time between races.
        Casual players would rather have fun talking and laughing than burying their heads in the form and staring at the board…

      • Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 2:54 pm

        i do all my handicapping before I get to the races. That is, when I go. tvg makes it all too easy to play the races from my couch.

    • unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2017 at 2:21 pm

      Gorgeous day, Kev!

  15. snarkk said, on October 1, 2017 at 2:42 pm

    Not going to miss these bonehead baserunning efforts by Span…

    • djloo27 said, on October 1, 2017 at 2:55 pm

      On paper, Span’s season might not look too bad.
      Same for Crawford, I guess…

  16. mrsprtdude said, on October 1, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    Detroit losing in the 7th. Come on Pads:)

  17. mrsprtdude said, on October 1, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    walk off win to end the year! Not rooting for that, but always good for the fans to get a win. Any one knows what happens in a tie?

  18. mrsprtdude said, on October 1, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    Just looked it up. In a tie for record the better pick goes to the team who was worse the year before. So unless Tigers come back from down 3-1 in the 7th we get the number 2 pick. GRRRR

  19. zumiee said, on October 1, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    That was a nice ending to an otherwise bad season.

    • djloo27 said, on October 1, 2017 at 3:35 pm

  20. unca_chuck said, on October 1, 2017 at 3:32 pm

    Again, if the #1 guy is a pitcher I don;t want us to draft him.

  21. alleykat69 said, on October 1, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    Pablo says he wants to go out just how Matt Cain did..
    So what’s stopping you? Just retire now, no send off needed!!

  22. alleykat69 said, on October 1, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    Jesus, Leave it to Pablo to screwup the #1 pick as well.
    Detroit gets it by tying the Giants this year but being worse last year!!What a fucking perfect way to end this nightmare of a season..

  23. sandog said, on October 1, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    That WAS a cool ending. I’m glad they pulled it out as 99 losses would have really pissed me off.
    Any chance that was the last at-bat of Pablo’s career? Unlikely, I know, but I wouldn’t completely rule out that possibility.

  24. Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 5:02 pm

  25. djloo27 said, on October 1, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    The Panda is:

    • Lurker John said, on October 1, 2017 at 5:09 pm

      What a great movie that was.

      • djloo27 said, on October 1, 2017 at 6:48 pm

        If by any chance you’re serious, LJ, we’re in the minority on this one…

  26. Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 5:06 pm

  27. Lurker John said, on October 1, 2017 at 5:07 pm

    So the nightmare finally ends. What now? What does the brilliant Boobie Evans do to rebuild this thing?

    • Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 5:31 pm

      the first thing he does is get up, hand over his phone to Sabean, walk out the door….and keep on walking. If this guy is left to try to fix this he’s going to sign 16 *defensive minded* free agents and we’ll be fucked forever.

  28. alleykat69 said, on October 1, 2017 at 5:38 pm

    Booby stepping down would be fine with me.Just don’t believe in Sabean anymore to make a deal worthwhile. He doesn’t have it in him to pull the trigger,though theirs not much bullets in the chamber to work with…
    Que up Lyrnard Skyrnrd “Gimme me back my Bullets”

  29. sandog said, on October 1, 2017 at 6:00 pm

    You god damn guineas really make me laugh! First off, Sabean ain’t got that kind of muscle no more.
    You wanna talk business? Let’s talk business. We have the 7th highest payroll in all of MLB and are already up against the luxury tax. The only contract coming off the books is Cain’s. We aren’t gonna make any sexy free agent signings. On top of that, we’ve got all kinds of contract issues, so trades aren’t happening either. Several guys are signed thru 2020 and 2021 with limited AND full no trade contracts.
    Next year’s roster, outside of some cosmetic tweaks around the edges, is going to be the same as this year’s. That sucks—I know. But its the way it is. Get Used To It.
    Maybe some guys stay healthy and we get some bounce back years and we scare .500. If so, great. If not, we suck again and get another high draft slot. Its probably gonna take 4-5 years to turn this battleship around. Its the price you pay for winning 3 rings and I’m fine with that.
    Quick fix with a big off season roster make-over can’t happen and won’t happen no matter who the freaking GM is!!!!

    • Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 6:13 pm

      Buzz kill. But you’re not gettin’ me down, Diggity. I’m cookin’ up a Posey and Bum to the Braves for like half their team so once I get this on Sabes desk we’ll see if 2018 looks “mostly the same with cosmetic tweaks around the edges…” I am going to trade Bum 37 times this Winter and literally every trade idea I come up with would make us better in 2018. Watch.

  30. Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    I’m not too bent about Pablo winning the game and knocking us down to #2 in the draft. The Giants will get a player with great upside at #2 so I’m totally fine with where they’ll be picking.

  31. Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    this is pretty good

    • Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 6:53 pm

      “I’m going tits out, one second…”

    • Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 6:56 pm

      “these are basic numbers, these are basic facts, it took me 2 seconds to look up!!!!”

  32. zumiee said, on October 1, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    Niners 0-4. My favorite play was the pass to the head coach.

  33. alleykat69 said, on October 1, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    Yeah Shanny showed good hands better then his receivers!
    Cracked up last week when former coach Brian Billick was on Knbr and they brought up recievers and he said:”Hell I can bring anybody in to camp to drop a ball I need one’s that can ketch one!”

    • Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 7:48 pm

      #1 thing that has surprised me about Hoyer is his inaccuracy. That was supposed to be the thing he was good at.

  34. Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    I’ll tell you something else, I’m ready for THIS shit to END. I’ve read enough flowery bullshit from our young players about the babes they’re banging to last a fucking lifetime. NO MORE FLOWERY BULLSHIT! Get better at baseball!

    • djloo27 said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:16 pm

      • alleykat69 said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:59 pm

        Now that was a good movie 🎥
        Everyone has had a day like Michael Douglas did , but few take it to the extreme like he did!

  35. alleykat69 said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    Once Hoyer gets flustered 😩 and ends up with happy feet , he turns into Jim (Chris) Everett. Jim Rome should get Hoyer on his show and question his manhood and start a brawl on TV again!

  36. Flavor said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    • willedav said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:22 pm

      ooh, #6 is Walter Davis. Man before his knees gave out (and other issues we won’t mention) he was fun player to watch for Suns. they had a cool team with Westphal (USC) and Buse at Gs, Alvin Adams as high post outside shooting C and Truck Robinson to set screens and bang inside.

      • Macdog said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:35 pm

        I didn’t know the Bullets, who won the title that season, passed on Davis. And K.C. using Nets pick to take Birdsong, who ended up with the Nets in the 80s.

    • willedav said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:25 pm
      • willedav said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:39 pm

        Ballard was Oregon St guy and they were good in those days with the old fart coach, Ralph Miller.

  37. willedav said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    I think I’d give Mr. Castellani the same advice Flav gave OSF last night.

  38. willedav said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    Outside of a Cain in CF or Moustakas at 3b, or as Loo mentioned Carlos Gomez CF, I don’t see earth shattering changes coming either. Chances of Bum or Posey being traded are slim and none; I remember the wsw guy used to complain about “rosterbation.”

    . For all Sabes talks of being bold and creative, he always overvalues what he has. Panik isn’t bringing back anything beyond hot prospect material either. Dumping off Span Pence or Belt would require Giants to give back contract dough which they appear unlikely to accept as price to pay.

    Take the draft pick, play younger corner OFs, hope for some rebounds at plate from “core” and improved pitching to get nearer .500 and finish ahead of Pads.

  39. djloo27 said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    Does Bochy just survive anything?

    • sandog said, on October 1, 2017 at 9:21 pm

      Yes. Job is his as long as he wants it and that’s the way it should be IMO.

  40. zumiee said, on October 1, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    I like how Cain tossed his cap into the crowd yesterday and today. A couple of people have Cain caps. That’s very cool.

  41. willedav said, on October 1, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    Filling CF for a couple seasons has to be move #1 but it is going to be hard. Candidates beyond Cutch and Lorenzo Cain? Kiermaier of Tampa, a team that does deals with Sabes already? Good players seem out of reach, and too many dumpster dive Cameron Maybins out there.

  42. sandog said, on October 1, 2017 at 9:32 pm

    Anybody else want to weigh in on my “that could have been Pablo’s last MLB at-bat” proposition?
    Loo thinks he ain’t done. I was totally with Loo all along on wanting him to return and predicting he would return—and I’m glad they did bring him back. And they gave him plenty of opportunities. But, despite that awesome blast today, I think he doesn’t have it anymore.
    That would be one hell of a swan song…..a walk off homer at home in the hardest park in the history of the universe to hit homers in.
    Loo, what kind of odds will you give me? 10 to 1 and you’ve got a wager.

    • djloo27 said, on October 1, 2017 at 10:22 pm

      I don’t know how much he’s got left, but there’s enough low budget teams that would take him on just because he’s cheap and maybe a little bit of a draw. If he’s not a Giant, I would expect him to turn up in Oakland, Miami, KC, who knows? I really think he wants to make good. I gave up gambling, BTW…

    • djloo27 said, on October 1, 2017 at 11:02 pm

      I miss gambling. Time to start again.
      What kind of odds will you give me that Ron Wotus will be the Giant manager at some point next season?
      And double it for Opening Day…

  43. snarkk said, on October 1, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    If Panda comes back starting at 3rd next season on Opening Day, the Giants are hosed…

    • blade3colorado said, on October 2, 2017 at 12:56 am

      They be hosed no matter what. Said it many times this season – Renaissance Period over . . . Now, we are in the wilderness years (or dark ages if you’re preference is the European Renaissance/Dark age metaphor).

      Seriously folks, this is a 3 to 5 year make over, especially when you consider the competition in our division. Philly and/or Astros are apt comparisons.


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