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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 7, 2017

Kershaw was not, in fact, able to keep his ERA under 5.00. Checked in with his usual post season stuff and walked off the hill with a 5.68 ERA.  But they still got the W because Arizona is a mess. They burn starting pitchers like I used to burn Marlboro’s.

I’m not seeing a clear path for the Dbacks to pull this off but it won’t stop me from rooting for them. I suppose they could continue blasting the ball, and Ketel Marte is a revelation, but with a pitching staff in ruins I’m just not seeing it.

Also, Joe Girardi is an idiot. I should say a “pompous idiot.” How could he sit there defending that obvious managerial blunder?

 

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  1. Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 6:41 am

    this guy is a certified idiot.

    • djloo27 said, on October 7, 2017 at 6:54 am

      If Pence did that, it would probably be looked at as “quirky”…

      We’re only 3 years removed (already? GAAHHDD!!!) from 3 in 5 and the game could not possibly have changed that much that fast. I figured out that the reason for juicing the ball was to combat the most obvious change – the shift. Batters have figured out that it’s better to try hitting it over them than between them and the powers that be have made it easier.

      • Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 7:00 am

        in 2014 the league hit 4,186 home runs. This year they hit 6,105. If that isn’t changing that much that fast I don’t know what is. And while I haven’t looked this up, i heard on KNBR recently that the HR numbers in the minors have stayed pretty much the same…..

      • xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 8:32 am

        yeah, I’ve heard that minor league factoid a few times too. So what did they do to the mlb seams? Change the yarn? the same people are still hand stitching them.

      • willedav said, on October 7, 2017 at 8:59 am

        xoot thx for that Ringer column. Very interesting on first scan through…have to check it out more thoroughly. lowering the seams does make a difference of few feet of distance.
        Wonder what Panik thinks—0 bombs at home, double figures on road.
        His OPS splits are unreal, under .600 at home, monster on road.

  2. willedav said, on October 7, 2017 at 8:47 am

    Hope the Nats can continue reg season hitting prowess. Interesting enough, they were 7th in league for HRs, their worst offensive stat. But they are great hitting team up and down LU.
    3rd in runs hits doubles BA
    first in slugging 2nd OPS
    non pitchers hit .275 as a team with .342 OB and .809 OPS.
    .809 as a team. Only Giants that high on entire team were Belt and Posey.

  3. pawliekokonuts said, on October 7, 2017 at 8:49 am

    I kinda like the bat-licking, and not for any Freudian or Jungian reasons. I’m with Loo: if it was Panda in his heyday, they’d be selling bat lollipops at the Dugout store.

  4. alleykat69 said, on October 7, 2017 at 9:03 am

    Giants are at the 1910 HR batting chart xoot..

  5. willedav said, on October 7, 2017 at 9:04 am

    Panik splits:
    at home .249 BA .310/326
    on road .320 BA .378/500
    .500 slugging on the road and .878 OPS wow

  6. blade3colorado said, on October 7, 2017 at 9:23 am

    Besides the Giants being old, they’re weak too. I saw a recent Brisbee column where he cited a list of 100 players ranked for raw exit velocity. Only one Giants hitter shows up in the top 100 names. He’s ranked 63rd.

    It’s Pablo Sandoval. WOO HOO! Pin our hopes on the Panda.

  7. Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 10:46 am

    very interesting article posted by Xoot. I’m going to read it again when I get home later today and comment on it then.

  8. snarkk said, on October 7, 2017 at 11:16 am

    Good article linked from Xoot. Needed edits to get to the point, but good. The ball is objectively proved to be juiced. Period. Some of the HR rate increase is due to different swing planes and uppercut approaches, but come on. The anecdotal evidence from pitchers that seams are lower is confirmed. Plus the blister factor. Plus the minors has seen no such HR increase, using a ball from China, not the MLB Costa Rica ball. Flemming said on KNBR weeks ago the ball is juiced. If this is what the future holds, fine. NBA is totally in a 3-ball future, courtesy of the Dubs. So, you don’t populate your team with dudes that klang 20 footers. The NFL is a pass happy league; you don’t focus your team on running backs and an OL that can’t pass block. So, unless they get with the program, last in HRs/game means SF is out of contention on Opening Day…

  9. xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 12:12 pm

    One thing, among many, that I like about the Ringer article is how the authors always consider multiple causes. I’m going to re-read it again, too. Lot of stuff there. But given the continual rise in HRs since 2015 this occurs to me: maybe mlb began testing juiced balls a couple of years ago and, once the results looked promising, continued to crank on the juice until they reached the desired level. That might help explain why this year went sky high (along with launch-angle batting approaches, etc.). If that’s possible, then we might see some fine tuning to reduce the juice before the 2018 baseball shipments get delivered to the teams.

    I really want someone to minutely analyze and explain the change in the seams. There are a lot of fluffy journalistic pieces out there full of convincing, if anecdotal, complaints from the pitchers this year.

    • xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 12:17 pm

      I posted about the pitchers’ complaints there before seeing that Snarkk addressed the same point.

  10. snarkk said, on October 7, 2017 at 12:23 pm

    This juiced ball period starts in second half of 2015, right after the 3 in 5 of the Giants. Outside of Giants and the oppo team in the WS, who is watching the WS? Nobody, the ratings are crap. Is it coincidental that the 3 in 5 is followed by intro of the juiced ball, that blows the Giants style of play out of the water? I don’t believe in coincidences. If this juiced ball was already on the purchase order of MLB, the Giants success confirmed the order, or sped it up….

  11. snarkk said, on October 7, 2017 at 12:37 pm

    I’d like to know how the stitching was reduced in height. Maybe different material or just smaller diameter? Article didn’t address that. Baseball production is not automated. MLB baseballs produced by hand in sweat shop conditions…
    http://www.ticotimes.net/2014/11/12/costa-ricas-major-league-concern

    • Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 12:47 pm

      I’ll see if I can send Katie over to one of these Costa Rican sweat shops to get to the bottom of this. 🙂

      • xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 1:16 pm

        Sounds like a vacation stop to me. I’d want some good Pacific waves, the train trip to cahuita, and the baseball factory tour

      • snarkk said, on October 7, 2017 at 1:17 pm

        An underage spy is a great idea — maybe she could score some postseason specialty baseballs, too… 😉

      • Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 1:30 pm

        and make a few bucks to offset the cost of this private school. lol

  12. djloo27 said, on October 7, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    The great Connie Hawkins has passed away at 75.
    Brooklyn legend…

    • willedav said, on October 7, 2017 at 4:25 pm

      Oh shoot sorry to hear that, one of my b-ball heroes. Used to catch Phoenix every time they came to Oaktown.
      One of only 2 guys I ever saw fake Nate Thurmond off his feet.

    • willedav said, on October 7, 2017 at 4:27 pm

      Plus he had the coolest look–fu Manchu mustache to the chin and the sideburns down to within an inch of the ‘stache.
      Wow really sad to hear this. He and Paul Silas (oaktown McClymonds) were a tough forward duo together.

  13. theroooster said, on October 7, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    Kershaw’s postseason ERA: 4.63 (95.1 IP)

    ERA thru 6 IP: 3.08 (84.2 IP)

    ERA 7th inning: 25.50! (6 IP)

    Pretty simple, really. Let him give you 6 solid, DO NOT let him out of the dugout for the 7th.

    • Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 3:21 pm

      that’s pathetic, we used to say that about Zito…

      • theroooster said, on October 7, 2017 at 3:40 pm

        Huh, Zito was ahead of his time. Who knew?

      • Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 3:50 pm

        he’s got two more rings than Kersh so he’s ahead of him there, too

      • djloo27 said, on October 7, 2017 at 3:55 pm

        We used to say DO NOT let Zito out of the dugout, period…

  14. Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    Ok, so it looks like it’s a combo of the ball being juiced AND players swinging for the fences all the time. Question: Why aren’t the Giants doing this? All of their swings look the same. They annoyingly try to go opposite field more than any other team in the league. Did they not get the message that the ball is juiced? Or are they just resigned to not being able to take advantage of the extra 7-49 feet they could be getting?

    • djloo27 said, on October 7, 2017 at 3:34 pm

      They’ve been psychologically beaten down by AT&T…

  15. Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    one quibble I have with the article is that it was written in June, all of the data collected before that. So I’m wondering if the bombs from the rest of 2017 would influence their take at all? I know they were basing it off of their own internal experiments with the balls but maybe they would find something else to look at. I mean, the number of HR’s increased nearly 50% from 2014 to 2017. That’s just an astounding increase and something I don’t think can be explained by simply saying guys are taking a different launch angle with their swings (along with the diff in the balls)

    • xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:12 pm

      We’ll hear more from those authors on the juiced ball after the year of the HR is over

      • xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:14 pm

        One of those guys wrote “the book” twin used to rave about

  16. willedav said, on October 7, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    great youtube vid on the Hawk, 5 minute one NBA legend. one handed swoop moves to the hoop and passes, dunks and mid range Js…remember this was 45 years ago and he was 27by time he got to NBA.

    I can’t link them, but just beautiful fluid player waving the ball around and finishing with style previously unknown.

    • djloo27 said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:23 pm

      Wish I coulda seen the Rucker Games in those days…

  17. Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:23 pm

    Maddon looks like a complete idiot letting this kid face Harper

    • djloo27 said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:27 pm

      Maddon was exposed last year as the overrated dope that he is.
      Dusty might be a latter day Gene Mauch…

      • djloo27 said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:29 pm

        I’ve never heard a manager get more abuse than Girardi in the last 24 hours.
        It is non-stop here…

      • Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:39 pm

        that’s probably why he about-faced today and took ownership of that total fuck up gaffe

  18. xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:24 pm

    Well that’s the first time I’ve celebrated a Bryce h success.

    • Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:39 pm

      he’s just such a douch with that fake stoic look and the non stop hair flips. I can’t stand him

      • xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:50 pm

        Did you see the interview with Kris Bryant where he talked about playing against Bryce at age twelve? Everyone was scared shitless of the little guy.

      • Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 6:13 pm

        i did. the espn interview? I remember the chick interviewing them asking some dumb questions

      • xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 6:28 pm

        Well I enjoyed that one answer. I dislike Harper but not as much as I dislike Justin Turner

  19. xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    Btw, am I the only one who thinks Posey and Craw left some slugging percentage in the WBC?

    • Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:40 pm

      i have no idea what’s going on with Posey. But he’s not even trying to drive the ball anymore. Injury? Or is he Joe Mauer now?

  20. Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    I’ve never liked Girardi, he comes across as a complete pompous fuck who thinks he’s smarter than everyone. Nice to see him get knocked down a few pegs last night.

    • djloo27 said, on October 7, 2017 at 6:09 pm

      If he met you, he’d call you “Flavey”

  21. Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 5:50 pm

    side note: can you even imagine the 2017 Giants hitting a 2run bomb in the 8th to tie it and and a 3 run bomb to put them ahead? In the same inning?

  22. zumiee said, on October 7, 2017 at 6:16 pm

    In keeping with the theme today, the Nats win with 2 3-run bombs, and Goldschmidt goes yard early.

    • zumiee said, on October 7, 2017 at 6:17 pm

      Oops, Bryce was a 2-run HR.

  23. Macdog said, on October 7, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    Goldy!

  24. Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    worried about Ray tonight. Didn’t come into this on the best routine.

  25. Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    wow he completely embarrassed Bellinger there.

  26. zumiee said, on October 7, 2017 at 7:40 pm

    Ray doesn’t look like the same guy that dominated the Dodgers this season.
    This all goes back to Greinke flopping in the Wild Card game.

  27. xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    two runs due to two wild pitches? wtf?

  28. zumiee said, on October 7, 2017 at 7:52 pm

    The D-Backs are going into choke-mode again.

    • Flavor said, on October 7, 2017 at 8:13 pm

      the Dbacks are a soulless crew. Same with the Nats and the Dodgers. You know, the GIants did a lot of damage with magic and aura and reverend speeches and all that shit. It’s really incredible when you look back on it.

      • xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 8:22 pm

        The wild-ass sermons and the sunflower seed celebrations were great. They worked.

  29. xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    I’m so glad SNL broadcasts live across the country now, clearly honoring the ancient baby boomer viewers who gave them credence in the 70s and who, now, need to get to bed early.

    • xoot said, on October 7, 2017 at 8:39 pm

      Wow I hope you guys catch that Aldean intro to snl. Good cover of I won’t back down.

  30. Macdog said, on October 7, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    Wild pitches, mental mistakes in the field, it’s mind-blowing how a 93-win team like the D-Bags freezes up in the glare of the playoffs.

    • zumiee said, on October 7, 2017 at 8:35 pm

      They look total deer-in-the-headlights.

  31. zumiee said, on October 7, 2017 at 8:38 pm

    I guess, theoretically, Greinke could rise up and give them a big performance in Game 3, but when has Greinke ever done that in his career?

  32. zumiee said, on October 7, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    The D-Backs needed to win all the non-Kershaw games.

  33. Macdog said, on October 7, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    Hey, the Snakes have some life,

    • djloo27 said, on October 7, 2017 at 9:12 pm

      Wild guess: Someone homered?

      • Macdog said, on October 7, 2017 at 9:14 pm

        Just the obligatory 3-run bomb.

  34. Macdog said, on October 7, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    Back to amateur hour for AZ.

  35. zumiee said, on October 7, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    Blanco vs. Jansen. Yeah, that’s going to go well.

  36. theroooster said, on October 7, 2017 at 11:28 pm

    Snakes have hit 6 HR’s in the 1st two games.
    Dodgers have hit 1.
    Dodgers up 2-0.

    • djloo27 said, on October 7, 2017 at 11:39 pm

    • Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 6:34 am

      the Dbacks won 93 games this year. Arguing that home runs are somehow a bad thing for your team is one of the dumbest fucking things I’ve ever heard.

  37. zumiee said, on October 8, 2017 at 7:09 am

    The Dodgers are hitting the ball hard vs. the D-Backs. The power is a constant threat.The D-Back pitchers are pitching scared and walking guys.

  38. zumiee said, on October 8, 2017 at 7:45 am

    Puig bat-flipped on a single. I can’t imagine why pitchers want to drill the guy.

  39. Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 8:08 am

    • xoot said, on October 8, 2017 at 3:28 pm

      Roger Maris hit lead off?

      • xoot said, on October 8, 2017 at 3:29 pm

        sorry. years behind

  40. unca_chuck said, on October 8, 2017 at 8:14 am

    THe scoreboard is epic.

  41. alleykat69 said, on October 8, 2017 at 8:25 am

    Jim Harbaurgh use to say “Who’s got it better then us” well the Big10 does for sure as MSU&OhioSt are a combined 16-3 against Michigan since 2008 lmao..

    • Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 8:47 am

      the angry tiger fan had a good video rant about that last night. I won’t post it since everyone here seems done with him

      • djloo27 said, on October 8, 2017 at 12:22 pm

        I’m not…

  42. theroooster said, on October 8, 2017 at 9:38 am

    Who the hell is “arguing that home runs are somehow a bad thing for your team” BF?
    I’m simply posting some interesting stats. To take it further, ALL the runs the snakes have scored have come via the HR. All 10 runs they’ve scored in the 2 games. Only 3 of the 17 runs the Dodgers have scored came from their lone HR.

  43. willedav said, on October 8, 2017 at 9:45 am

    I remember Daniel from Cards posting something about Giants fans being able to watch Posey all year.
    Don’t get the grief over him, at all.
    He was by far their best hitter, all year. His OPS is 100 points better than anyone else except Belt and150 better than Craw Pence Parker Sando the guys hitting behind him. As a C, most physically and mentally demanding position. Even as 1b he is passable with glove.

    Needs to do more? on a 98 loss team so does everyone. There is a lot wrong with the underwhelming picture of the Giants, but it ain’t Posey.

  44. alleykat69 said, on October 8, 2017 at 10:21 am

    No doubt about that Willied.
    Posey’s the only guy that came to play everyday, banged up are not at the most demanding position on the field, theirs no way he should take BS after another solid season while others tanked..

  45. unca_chuck said, on October 8, 2017 at 10:52 am

    2 home runs after the break is pretty weak for a guy making $21 mill a year. Yeah he hits, but his power is non-existent. Which is why he should not be moved to 1st.

    • willedav said, on October 8, 2017 at 11:17 am

      Contract is irrelevant and out of his hands. Should players making less be allowed to do less? Put some more decent hitters around him and see what happens. 2 players since Bonds, Pence and Huff once each, 25 bombs at ATT. Pitchers aren’t worried about anyone else in LU and tell him take your singles to RF you ain’t getting nothing else to hit.

      It’s not like b-ball where best players get all the shots. Posey gets one at a time, just like Ryder Jones.
      He hit .320 with 34 doubles and struck out 5 more times than he walked. .400 OB .460 slugging. Any else come close to that?

      • unca_chuck said, on October 8, 2017 at 11:31 am

        You can say the same for Belt. Does he get 1/10 the rope? No. If they trade Belt and move Posey to 1st, does Hundley hit 20? 6? If it’s all about the long ball, moving Posey to 1st does nothing but make us weaker. at 2 positions.

      • willedav said, on October 8, 2017 at 12:08 pm

        oh you’re right. If Posey can hit.320 and be an excellent C, no reason to move him. He’s fine where he is…fix other problems first.

  46. willedav said, on October 8, 2017 at 11:22 am

    wow that will be funny if Colts lose the game by a FG.

  47. unca_chuck said, on October 8, 2017 at 11:36 am

    If I’m a kicker i intentionally miss the kick if I hear the whistle.

  48. zumiee said, on October 8, 2017 at 1:31 pm

    Willie, I totally agree with you about Posey.

  49. Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    if someone wanted Posey and were willing to give us prospects I’d do that deal in a nano second. But I highly doubt anyone is going to give up anything good for him. Package Bum with him tho….

    • sandog said, on October 8, 2017 at 2:38 pm

      Every team in MLB would be interested in Posey. Your hatred for him is something I will never understand. I wouldnt trade him because I think he is the cornerstone of the franchise.
      Its all just meaningless banter though. Even if we wanted to trade him, he has a full no trade clause. We would have to buy that out and then could only negotiate with a short lost of teams he approved, and wouldnt get fair value. Not happening. The whole trade Posey bit is a huge waste of time.

      • Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 3:37 pm

        for what he makes a year? There is no WAY every team would interested. I’d say there is a handful at best. HIs power is gone, he’s a catcher so being 30 is not a good thing, and he makes 21 mil a year for the next 5 years.

  50. Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    and I don’t think Posey is even close to the main problems we have. But he is on the down side of his career, I think that’s obvious with his complete power outage. If he can hit .300+ and be the jizz target everyone says he is for the pitchers I guess I’m fine with that. But his contract is an albatross that management will use to NOT sign expensive free agents. If we could somehow shed his deal, or at least part of it, and also pick up a blue chip prospect or two I think that would be the best route for fixing this team within 3-5 years.

  51. Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    and the fact that he’s the cornerstone of the franchise is the wrong reason to keep him. We are FUCKED for years with nothing in the pipeline. The only cornerstone we should have is a mindset that includes starting over. The only way to do that is to trade Posey and Bum to Atlanta and draft properly. Keeping Posey around for this mess makes no sense, he won’t be able to fix any of it even if he stays at the level he’s at now. But what are the chances that he hits 31+ and doesn’t decline? Zero. We need several young blue chip studs who can marinate in the minors for a couple of years. There is nobody down there now except maybe Heliot and who knows when he’ll be ready. Bum and Posey are luxuries we can’t afford and who won’t be able to make us competitive. They’ll just be around to remind us of our glory years. I want more than that.

  52. Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    and Diggity I don’t hate Posey, I appreciate everything he’s done for the franchise. But our window of opportunity has closed and I just don’t see the point in having him around to suck up 21 mil a year in salary. I don’t want to have to watch this team suck for the next 10 years. I already did that for 30 years before we won in 2010. The only way to fix this team within the 3-5 years you put out there a few days ago is to tear it down and start over. If we keep Bum and Posey they are going to be completely worthless in 3 years anyway and there is nothing in the system right now to pin our hopes on.

  53. sandog said, on October 8, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    We cant get much for him with a full no trade Flav, and 20 mil a year aint as big of a deal as it used to be. All kinds of marginal players make 20 mil annually..Heyward, Shields, Hanley. Doesnt David Price make 30?

    • Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 5:12 pm

      Sure. And I think Grienke makes 35. But most of the highest paid players are on teams that are winning or at least have a chance to compete. We have no chance to compete next year if we stay with this same group and I wouldn’t even mind that if we had a farm system that was going to pay off in 3-5 years. But we have the worst farm system in baseball. So I am for blowing it all up. However unrealistic that is, that’s the only way I think we have a chance to rebound.

  54. unca_chuck said, on October 8, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    I think we would have to eat about $55-$60 mill to trade Posey. I just don’t see it.

    • Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 5:35 pm

      I don’t see any of this happening either. But I can’t come up with another scenario where we are ready to come out or this darkness in 3-5 yrs

  55. alleykat69 said, on October 8, 2017 at 6:16 pm

    Well they could start by posting a higher number then the Yanks,Dodgers etc and go after Shoei Otani the 2 way player pitcher/OF who’s 23 and instill some youth in this gerracic LU. I’ll take any quick fix that could help right now..

    • zumiee said, on October 8, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    • Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 6:36 pm

      Absolutely. That’s another way out of this I hadn’t considered. If that guy was a star NOW we might be able to add pieces around him and compete next year.

  56. zumiee said, on October 8, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    All rise- Judge robs Cleveland of an HR.

  57. zumiee said, on October 8, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    Bird-man crushes one.

  58. willedav said, on October 8, 2017 at 7:33 pm

    Trading your best player(s) off for prospects is what the A’s do. And where has that gotten them? Continuous last place finishes. If you want to insure that happens again for SF then go ahead and do that. But it doesn’t work which is why no one except Billy Beane does it.

    With the money the Giants have again unlike the A’s neither Bum nor Posey contracts fall into albatross range.

    No one has any idea if or when Posey and/or Bum will decline. Far too often in SF Giants history GMs have gone that direction with disastrous results of players being productive for other teams long after Giants dumped them off.
    . The Reds GM thought Frank Robinson was “an old 30.” I’m betting Posey joins Frank in HOF, hopefully as a Giant for life.

  59. unca_chuck said, on October 8, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    The A’s trade everybody. They aren’t an example of anything other than a guy (Beane) who trades every serviceable piece he has for pieces to trade later.

    Bum’s NEXT deal is the problem. But we have 2 years to ride out before we really have to do something, Unless we trade him. This is why he is a gigantic trade piece,

    Owing Posey $85 mill plus the $3 mill buyout (unless we pay his $22 mill in 2023) IS a problem. If we pay him that contract in 2023, I’ll pay you $3 mill.

  60. unca_chuck said, on October 8, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    Point being, we either trade Bummie now when he has the most value, or we ride him 2 more years and take our chances in 2020.

    • Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 8:40 pm

      your point about not giving him a massive deal is an excellent one. I don’t think for a nano second that Posey or Bum will be getting traded. But one thing we could avoid is giving him 300 million and watching him turn into Cain or Lincecum

  61. willedav said, on October 8, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    tyreek hill is one mother for ya.

  62. Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    from the angry tiger fan. Tough times in the motor city

    • Macdog said, on October 8, 2017 at 8:57 pm

      I just showed his Michigan rant to my MSU-alum wife, we’re both laughing our asses off.

      • Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 9:00 pm

        he really gets into Harbaugh in the second half of that one.

      • Macdog said, on October 8, 2017 at 9:08 pm

        Yes, that was a nice, calm buildup before the eruption.

    • theroooster said, on October 8, 2017 at 9:06 pm

      https://www.patreon.com/Castellani2014

      LMAO, now this guy has set up some kind of charity account money grab to view his “content”, and is crying that he’s broke?
      Get a job, loser. Or, maybe you get get guys like BF to feel sorry for you and send you some $$$.
      C’mon, BF send him some money. He really, really needs it! What a joke.

      • Flavor said, on October 9, 2017 at 7:11 am

        are you kidding me? No I don’t support this. He’s an educated college kid. Put down your phone and go get a job. He should go drive for Uber or Lyft. That would be an entertaining ride…

  63. Flavor said, on October 8, 2017 at 8:45 pm

    the chiefs have become really fun to watch. Alex Smith is different. He’s not immediately checking down like when he was with the NIners. He’s buying time and then finding open receivers. It helps to have those weapons too.

  64. blade3colorado said, on October 9, 2017 at 5:15 am

    Better odds – Giants 1st in their division 5 years from now or Trump not serving his 1st term?

    The bookmakers are banking on things getting worse for Trump with the latest odds from Ladbrokes showing that there is a 48 per cent chance he will fail to make it to the end of his first term in office.

    Their latest odds are as follows:
    Impeachment or resignation before 2020: 11/10 (47.6 per cent chance)
    To serve full first term: 8/11 (57.9 per cent chance).

    Just me, but I have to say Trump doesn’t last, even with the Giants getting 2 plus additional years to make good.


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