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Sabean To The Rescue?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 10, 2017

Here’s an interview from the other day with the refreshingly honest Brian Sabean at

Answering some of his questions will prove to be more difficult. But at least he gets it: we need to focus on improving the offense, not just spending time on the outdated approach of defense and pitching and nothing else.

RPAD time. This one from 11/10/11 back when the Penn St. stuff was going down:


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  1. djloo27 said, on November 10, 2017 at 7:30 am

    Twin and Chuck were a great comedy team.
    Angell’s quote about the baseball itself has become reality…

  2. djloo27 said, on November 10, 2017 at 7:53 am

    There’s a horse running in the 5th at Aqueduct today named Forest Blue.
    Should mean something to some of you guys…

  3. unca_chuck said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:08 am

    Twin was in rare form anyway.

  4. unca_chuck said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:09 am

    Heh heh. O lineman for John Brodie back when they made their ljaoff run in the 70s.

  5. Flavor said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:13 am

    Twin was runnin’ and gunnin’ back then. He got pissed off at me last week cause I didn’t call him right after he emailed me. I explained why. He emailed back “GOODBYE” in all caps in the subj line with no words in the main body. Take that for what you will…..

  6. willedav said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:16 am

    these are all good reads, just like everyday stuff, for a long time. Twin could be rough on anyone. His Dad was super announcer though from when football become popular on TV.

    Kurt Suzuki suddenly turns out Johnny Bench numbers…hmmnn. He plays in year round warm weather yard, in a division where summer heats up dramatically for every other team in the division, and the park is HR friendly.
    Giants play night games where summer weather is more like winter, and even for RH is much tougher. Other than AZ, there is not a hitter friendly warm weather yard in entire division.

    Hey he had a nice year, but at ATT no way he puts up .887 OPS and .536 slugging. Especially when his career numbers over 10 freaking years are more like Hundley, under .700 OPS and under .400 slugging.

    I have a feeling that the baseball itself is going to be different this year. Big name pitchers brought it up in post season, and Manfred and his “it’s up to ml specs” argument is going to face a lot of scrutiny.
    Sure hope whatever happens does not hamper Cueto like he was this year.

  7. zumiee said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:20 am

    “ownership has passed on some of their guidelines.”

    Well, we can guess what those guidelines are.

  8. willedav said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:22 am

    Twin lit up everyone at some point. Nipper Ted Wisco posts, good guys.

    F/G had column the other day about the baseball itself. I think Manfred and his whole “it’s up to ml specs” take is gonna face a lot of scrutiny this year. Too many big name/big salary post season pitchers brought up the differences. If guys can’t throw a slider, you are taking a big weapon away from lot of pitchers.
    would not surprise me 2018 will see different ball, maybe less hitter friendly.
    whatev, hope Cueto is OK throwing one.

    • willedav said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:24 am

      sorry for double post…other one had not gone through here on my pc. different sites load really slowly sometimes, F/G and Yahoo being the worst…”yahoo not responding.”

  9. Flavor said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:28 am

    from 2010 but still pretty relevant today…

  10. wilcojoe said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:44 am

    Twin to Chuck: “What the fuck are you, the quote Nazi?”


    • unca_chuck said, on November 10, 2017 at 9:08 am

      I think he called me a Nazi and a fascist 5 x in that thread. All because I liked John Facenda as a kid.

      • snarkk said, on November 10, 2017 at 11:27 am

        I was racist because I didn’t genuflect twice a day in the direction of “Vungo” after 2010…

  11. zumiee said, on November 10, 2017 at 11:22 am

    The Giants start their off-season workouts:

  12. snarkk said, on November 10, 2017 at 11:32 am

    All well and good that Sabes is being honest about holes. What is his job now anyway? Is he like a retiring congressman that can now actually tell the truth? Anyway, 2 years into Spans 3 year deal and he admits that was a F up pick up. After admitting it, fix the conditions that generated it, namely an empty minor league cupboard for OFs. Yet he we are, same situation again…

  13. Flavor said, on November 10, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    Steph doing Steph things this morning at practice:

  14. willedav said, on November 10, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    college b-ball gets started, mostly cupcake games.

    Speaking of cupcakes…noticed OKC lost 4th straight to take over last place in division as Westbrook shoots 6-22 from floor 1-6 from 3 and 0-3 from FT line. gotta love it.

  15. xoot said, on November 10, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    Stix update. Today, the US Attorneys weighed in on sentencing. They’re asking for “108 months.” They say that the two victims who were in the helicopter intend to appear at the sentencing hearing to attest to the horror they suffered when the bullet hit the plexiglass. Moreover, the helicopter itself was out of service for a while. This paragraph particularly leapt at me from the government’s brief:

    “A twenty-four month sentence is not just. That result does not reflect the seriousness
    of the defendant’s criminal behavior. A defendant received a twenty-four month sentence
    for aiming a laser at an aircraft. United States v. Smith, 756 F.3d 1076(8th Cir. 2014).
    This case is more serious case. A much longer sentence is warranted. The defendant shot
    down a federal law enforcement helicopter. He did not just aim a laser at an aircraft.”

    • djloo27 said, on November 10, 2017 at 6:59 pm

      They seem to be conveniently overlooking that he tried to ward them off with a rake first.

      • xoot said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:00 pm

        Stix didn’t shoot down the chopper. They sped off and landed safely, easily. The guy riding shotgun got scratched by plexiglass fragments. I’d love to hear his testimony of pain and fear.

    • Flavor said, on November 10, 2017 at 7:58 pm

      i’d like to know how they found and prosecuted a guy who shined a laser up at an airplane. How does that go down? And he got 24 months for that? Did the plane crash?

      • djloo27 said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:01 pm

        No, but cocktail service was briefly interrupted…

      • xoot said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:02 pm

        Ha! Google the case citation and the statement of facts should tell you everything

      • xoot said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:19 pm

        I just went on Westlaw to look at that laser case. The government’s citation is incorrect. Unbelievably sloppy work. I’ll see if I can track it down.

      • xoot said, on November 10, 2017 at 8:34 pm

        the accurate citation is 756 F.3d 1070. A guy in his backyard in Omaha aimed his laser at a 737 descending for landing. The effect on the cockpit was severe enough to get them to immediately involve local law enforcement, who tried to locate the guy with a police helicopter swoop. The guy then aimed his laser at the chopper ‘s pilot, when the chopper came. The court sentenced the genius to 24 months under some statutes that apply specifically to laser assaults on aircraft. The appellate decision the Minn US Atty cites in Stix’s case doesn’t concern the 24 month sentence at all. It’s all about a tangential evidence issue. Sloppy legal work in every way. The government’s phoning it in, on Stix. They seem sure that they’ll slam our guy. Why waste effort?

  16. zumiee said, on November 10, 2017 at 7:32 pm

    The Spurs/Bucks game- the whole broadcast looks like it’s on a black and white TV. The Spurs’ entire arena is black, white, and silver.
    It’s kind of bizarre looking.

    • zumiee said, on November 10, 2017 at 7:33 pm

      The Bucks’ Giannis is awesome.

      • zumiee said, on November 10, 2017 at 7:40 pm

        Delly’s on his team. I don’t hate Delly when he’s on the Bucks.

      • zumiee said, on November 10, 2017 at 7:44 pm

        I still don’t think Delly is bursting with talent.

      • sandog said, on November 10, 2017 at 9:41 pm

        I was watching that game too and focusing on Delly as well. He signed a $38 million contract with Milwaukee,which blows my mind. I didn’t see that coming when he was at St. Mary’s, but good for him. He plays hard and seems like a great teammate.

  17. xoot said, on November 10, 2017 at 10:36 pm

    Stanford sure stepped up in the second half tonight.

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