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Dreaming of Someone Better

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 15, 2017

As we pine away for guys like Stanton, Billy Ham or even Randal Grichuk, it’s important to temper our enthusiasm with blubs like this from mlbtradrumors.com:

“Of course, it remains to be seen just how the Giants will remedy their outfield situation. Joel Sherman of the New York Post also chatted with Evans, and the GM acknowledged that the poor reputation of San Francisco’s farm system makes trading with other organizations more difficult. Evans also plainly stated that the Giants would “prefer not to go over [the luxury tax barrier] for the fourth straight year.””

Personally, I doubt the “poor reputation” is the problem. True, almost none of the players the Giants trade ever amount to anything but teams have their own scouting people, if they like a guy I can’t imagine that past traded players failures inhibit the desire to acquire. In fact, all of the best minor league talent the Giants have made it to the show and stayed there (Crawford, Panik, Belt, Posey, etc…).

The goal appears to be to platoon Span and Pence. That suggests the tittilating possibility of two new outfielders coming to us via trade. Easier said than done but that’s no small tweak that’s a mini-overhaul.

Now that Sabean has inserted himself back into the fray, I’m willing to be hopeful and watch it all unfold.

RPAD Time. 11/15/13

Look at the crap we were voting on back then. Ugh. Hope Sabes does better than this:


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  1. blade3colorado said, on November 15, 2017 at 6:22 am

    What happened to the “wilderness years” pessimism from a few weeks ago? A cursory review of yesterday’s posts reveals maybe 1, possibly 2 Flappers (Loo and Snarkk) that haven’t consumed massive amounts of Giants Kool Aid.

    The Giants entire MO the past 2-3 off seasons is inserting their name into as many potential free agent and trade deals as possible. Why? Simply to look like they’re doing something, where the clueless cheese and wine crowd fans are mollified.

    You’re dreaming if you think Cain, Martinez, Stanton, or Hamilton (ugh) are signing here. And if they do (especially Stanton)? Add 5 more wilderness years to the 5 minimum we’re likely to go through. Sheesh, I don’t think I have enough fingers to count the number of bad long-term contracts and aging piss- poor players we already have on this bloated roster. Anyway, that’s my opinion.

  2. gianthead said, on November 15, 2017 at 7:36 am

    Who the hell was Hart in the previous poll for OF???

    One other possible target the Red Sox would pursue other than Panik to deal Bradley is Moore as some pitching insurance and only at $9 mill would not be much more than what Bradley is expected to make via arbitration…

    • willedav said, on November 15, 2017 at 8:28 am


      More Stanton fluff from Shea today along with Evans “our focus” on defensive minded CF. Um, your OF offense was sub par last year. Add another guy who can’t hit and see how much that helps your team.

    • sandog said, on November 15, 2017 at 9:13 am

      It was the great Corey Hart. (Not the “Sunglasses at Night” guy)
      Side note, I actually think that is a darn good pop/rock song and don’t mind hearing it 2-3 times a year.

  3. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on November 15, 2017 at 8:22 am

    On the other hand, I don’t think management has the stomach or the balls (or the patience) to admit defeat and begin a long rebuilding process of wilderness years, even if the fans might accept that. The only other way out is to add 2 or 3 high impact players (yeah, 2 top OFers, perfect opportunity this off-season to do it), which of course blows the budget unless they get real creative. A 3rd option is to do practically nothing, like last off-season. Ugh.

  4. snarkk said, on November 15, 2017 at 8:46 am

    Giants have to get really creative in this offseason due to being stymied with these big contracts, and self-admitted crap in the upper minors. If Sabean and Evans can’t be creative and a lackluster season follows, time for next offseason to change the deck chairs in the FO…

  5. unca_chuck said, on November 15, 2017 at 8:58 am

    I’ve said all along is we need 2 OFers and 3 pen guys. Too much $$$? Well, yeah. Tough shit. Either that or we dumpster dive for Ethier, BHam, and table scraps for the pen.

    If so, then we should empty the front office.

  6. sandog said, on November 15, 2017 at 9:06 am

    In my book, the only move that is realistic and makes sense is signing Lorenzo Cain and hoping for the best.

    • unca_chuck said, on November 15, 2017 at 1:00 pm

      If they threw in JD I’d be fine.

  7. xoot said, on November 15, 2017 at 10:00 am

    If the Giants stay under the LT threshold they’ll “bolster” the pen with more kids making the major league minimum and they’ll fill CF with a cheap guy maybe with a chance to surprise. .500 would be the goal. I’m afraid that’s the owner’s plan. Soft pedal it and hope for the best in 2018 then consider spending money for 2019.

    • sandog said, on November 15, 2017 at 10:33 am

      I could totally see this happening as well.
      Austin Jackson…………come on down!!

  8. alleykat69 said, on November 15, 2017 at 10:33 am

    So some cojones Giants and just eat Pence’s contract and dump him unless you can trade him for any low minor leaguer you can get. He’s 35 with 3 straight shit years, he’s just taking up a roster spot.I appreciate the great years he gave us and the fire up the troops with his speeches but he’s done like the over cooked turkey in Christmas Vacation..

  9. dirtnrocksnomo said, on November 15, 2017 at 11:26 am

    Sandog’s Cain idea is probably most likely but the only Austin we’ll see patrolling the OF in ‘18 is “Gimpy” Slater. If he can stay healthy that may not be so bad. At least he hits from the right side.

    Mac & Parker still suck but we all know how Booby loves him some inventory so we’ll probably see their sorry asses trotted out come spring. I guess that leaves 3b to fill.

  10. zumiee said, on November 15, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    The new MLB Network documentary about Ted Williams batting .406 in 1941 is very good. In general, the MLB docs are good, with the slight annoyance that Bob Costas is usually part of them. It’s hard to articulate exactly why he’s an annoying broadcaster, but he just is.

    • alleykat69 said, on November 15, 2017 at 12:08 pm

      Like Joe Buck annoying?

      • zumiee said, on November 15, 2017 at 12:15 pm

        Pretty much.

  11. zumiee said, on November 15, 2017 at 12:11 pm

    In the MLB Network doc about the Cleveland team in the ’90s, Jose Lima was pitching in the fateful 9th inning of game 7 of the World Series against the Marlins. With an 0-2 count to Charles Johnson, the manager wanted to bust him inside with a fastball, but Lima wanted to throw a breaking pitch to the outside. Lima kept shaking off the fastball, and threw the breaking pitch, which Johnson hit for a single to keep the rally going.
    Lima, being interviewed in the doc, says “The manager hadn’t called a pitch for me all season, why is he going to start now?”
    Oh, I don’t know…..maybe because it’s THE 9TH INNING OF GAME 7 OF THE WORLD SERIES.
    The manager should have called time and gone out to the mound when Lima kept shaking off the fastball. Baseball managers are more passive than basketball and football headcoaches, in general, IMO.

    • zumiee said, on November 15, 2017 at 12:14 pm

      And, as we know, Vizquel, in his book, criticized Lima for that 9th inning, and later when they were on separate teams, Lima drilled Vizquel over and over with pitches. A ridiculous thing to be doing.

    • Macdog said, on November 15, 2017 at 12:28 pm

      Jose Mesa?

      • djloo27 said, on November 15, 2017 at 2:27 pm

        Si, Senor…

      • xoot said, on November 15, 2017 at 2:56 pm

        Vizquel didn’t just criticize Mesa Vizquel’s book opens with that WS moment when Omar looked into Mesa’s eyes and saw fear and weakness just before Mesa blew the game.

      • zumiee said, on November 15, 2017 at 3:34 pm

        Oops, Mesa I should have said.

  12. Flavor said, on November 15, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    Kings getting walloped. Wow.

  13. djloo27 said, on November 15, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    Looks like we might wake up to the wonderful news that Charles Manson has died.
    It’s about fuckin’ time. I hope it’s slow and painful.
    Wish someone would put a shiv in Berkowitz’s back already…

    • alleykat69 said, on November 15, 2017 at 6:56 pm

      Agree Loo,
      That fucking psychopath and his freaky followers should of all been gassed/electric chair/ and lethal injection to make sure they were dead!!! Same goes with Sirhan Sirhan!!!!

      • djloo27 said, on November 15, 2017 at 7:05 pm

        I loved it when Dahmer got whacked in prison.
        Berkowitz got his throat slashed but the scumbag survived…

      • unca_chuck said, on November 15, 2017 at 7:37 pm

        I loved it when Sirhan Sirhan said the if RFK was alive, he’d pardon him.

      • xoot said, on November 15, 2017 at 8:34 pm

        I was impressed a couple years back when a woman almost convinced Charlie Manson to marry her. Turned out she just wanted the rights to his corpse after he croaked–money to be made there, she figured. Apparently someone with some sense intervened on Charlie’s behalf.

  14. alleykat69 said, on November 15, 2017 at 6:48 pm

    This is the kind of shit that drives me crazy about the Giants. The Mariners just picked up Ryon Healy from the A’s for a couple prospects .Healy a RH slugger only 25 hit 25 bombs last year for the A’s 78 RBI’s plays some 3rd as well. Of course the phone lines,text lines, coffee can with strings lin,don’t go across the bay cause they can’t ever bother getting ahold of the A’s for any possible deal, but this is the type of player they need to go after with a fucking cheap salary to boot!!!

    • xoot said, on November 15, 2017 at 6:56 pm

      Beano won’t deal with Sabean. Billy’s still lqth over dealing Hill to the bums.

      • Macdog said, on November 15, 2017 at 7:22 pm

        Yep, that Beane would rather deal with a division rival than the Giants says it all.

      • Flavor said, on November 15, 2017 at 7:37 pm

        the Giants don’t have any players that Beane wants

  15. zumiee said, on November 15, 2017 at 9:08 pm

    “I loved it when Sirhan Sirhan said the if RFK was alive, he’d pardon him.”

    Bummer for Sirhan; he killed the guy that would have pardoned him.

  16. Macdog said, on November 15, 2017 at 10:02 pm

    Joel Embiid lit up the Lakers — and Julius Randle in particular — for 46 points tonight in Sixers’ win.

    • xoot said, on November 16, 2017 at 1:11 am

      I remember Julius Randle on KY. He was the hardest worker, fiery, never quit. They had a bunch of OT games that year and when OT started he looked like he was ready to play an entire new game, while everyone else on the court looked half dead. I’ve sort of followed him on the Lakers. One limit on him in college was lack of length; his arms were short.

      • unca_chuck said, on November 16, 2017 at 9:23 am

        Speaking of arms, Javale McGee has a 7’5″ wingspan.

    • unca_chuck said, on November 16, 2017 at 9:22 am

      Embiid is a funny guy. He’s in a trash-talk war with Draymond Green. Apparently they are both in on the gag.

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