Pay Everyone Everything
The local radioheads kept filling the airwaves with hopeful Stanton wishes. They stand by their claim that the main selling point from the Giants camp is their ability to take on the contract of both Stanton and Gordon. This doesn’t make any sense to me. With the team up against the lux cap already, and with other teams with big cash way below it, how is this *advantage SF?*
I am for bringing all of these guys aboard. I know I’ve been back and forth on this. But I’m already tired of completely wasted years like the one we just went through. If we pay a few more guys too much money, who cares? We’re already doing that. And it’s not like the brass is going to suddenly wake up and decide a tear down is the way to go. So I want them to get as good as they can get with new, expensive players. And if we add Gordon and Stanton and lose Panik (really, Joe is like a healthier version of Duffy) and Bum and Cueto bounce back, who’s to say we can’t compete for a WC spot next year.
I’ll take that. With nothing in the pipeline, another year of narrowly avoiding 100 losses is of no interest to me……
RPAD Time:
A nice Thanksgiving day retro from 2012
https://oneflapdown77.com/2012/11/22/happy-thanksgiving-flappers/
Platinum Gold
IF the Giants were to go into total rebuild mode, they would need to lower ticket prices. Some of the Club level tickets are over $100 now for certain games. You can’t charge that much for a team losing 90+ games. Ticket prices were raised a lot during the 3-in-5.
I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one. It’s unbelievable how ticket prices have skyrocketed in recent years.
It’s totally sick. Somebody was nice enough to give me Ranger tickets for Sunday.
Face price: $ 317 each – and it’s hardly the best seat in the house.
A regular season afternoon game against the Vancouver Canucks…
And hockey contracts are the least offensive of the major sports, at least for the average player. Fun sport to watch live. I wouldn’t mind catching a game in the Garden some time before I depart.
It used to be much more fun.
Fights on the ice (and in the stands). Vulgarities hurled at both teams.
No little kids and very few women. Cigarette smoke. Airhorns. It’s so sanitized now.
Like anywhere else a lot of the true fans can’t afford to come too often.
And the real hard core of the past (like myself) has aged and just don’t get loud like we used to…
That’s too bad, because it is great sport. I became a fan in the ’70’s when my family moved to south Jersey right outside of Philly. Moving from CA, hockey was a complete mystery. The Golden Bears had recently folded and hockey just wasn’t done in California at the time.
Some of my new HS friends got me into the Flyers and it was on after that. Once I understood the game, I became a die hard fan hand have been ever since. This in the old Broad Street Bully days when the NHL was much different than it is today, like you said. Some goalies still not wearing masks. Balls to the wall.
I’m sure you’re cringing right now, Loo, as a Rangers fan. lol . We went to some games, including at the old Fabulous Forum when we moved back to CA. You remember those teams right? Marcel Dionne, Butch Goring, Rogie Vashon, Dave Taylor, Charlie Simmer, those were fun teams to watch. Purple unis with the big crown on the front.
Anyway, it was a ton of fun to watch at the arena then. Fast, hard hitting, skillful. What’s not to like?
Sure LJ. Dark memories of those Flyer series. The Rolfe mugging and Hadfield caught on camera laughing on the brink of elimination. That was the end of the era for those talented Ranger teams that could never get over the hump. Rangers obtained the washed up Dionne at the end of his career. Lafleur,too…
Here’s what the Central Valley looks like right now:
You plug Stanton into the clean up spot and Posey into the third spot, Buster figures to be much better from a run production standpoint. He’s always been a natural three hole hitter to me. With Gordon at the top, IMO a far better speed and on-base threat than Hamilton, and you’ve got a pretty well revamped top half of the order. Maybe a guy like Arroyo in the 2-hole, if he pans out. Gordon would wreak some serious havoc on the base paths, something the Giants haven’t had in years, if ever. 200 hits and 60 steals last year. The Giants are in desperate need of a table setter. He’s also pretty good defensively.
I keep hearing these Stanton rumors and still don’t really see how he ends up with the Giants, but where there’s smoke there’s fire I suppose. It’s just hard to imagining our conservative Giants front office taking on such a huge contract, or, more importantly, having enough of what the Marlins would want.. With our luck lately, he’ll end up in LA.
I feel like some team (like the Angels or whoever) is just lurking and will swoop in and grab Stanton.
Vegas odd have the Giants as the overwhelming (2-5) favorite to get him….
Kind of how I feel.
I wonder why Vegas favors them. Maybe they know something we don’t.
If Gordon came over, I wouldn’t shed tears over Panik leaving either. I like Joe, but c’mon…
Yeah, this illusion that Joe Six-pack could bring the wife and kids to a major league baseball game nowadays, or any other major league sport- forget it. It’s not Joe Six-pack bringing the wife and kids. It’s Joe White-collar-worker and the wife and kids.
That’s what I can’t stand about the comment section at McCovey Chronicles. It all sounds like a bunch of poser bandwagon-jumpers. There’s no grit to their comment section. I get the feeling that hardly any of them are from the Candlestick era.
And I’m not negative about white collar workers. I think technically I am one. I’m just negative on blue collar workers being priced out of major league sports attendance.
Send ’em over here, they’ll get all the grit they can handle. LOL
Some of the yuppie Giants fans need some grit! They need to experience what it was like to sit in Candlestick and have dirt and hot dog wrappers blowing in your face all game! And freezing Arctic wind and temperatures!
If you want to ignore the concussion issues,a healthier Duffy is a good way to describe Panik. Dude made a great play in the WS but he’s not a franchise cornerstone. If he has to be part of a Stanton deal then do it. Most club’s systems regularly churn out these kind of players. Arroyo needs to prove it but I think he’s pretty much the same player from the right side.
Blast from the past on the retro thread. Twin was happy and in his element – talking food and glory days. My son is now 4 &1/2.
Yeah, those comments are fun to read.
My comment turned out to be way off. “I’m looking forward to seeing RG III play”
lqtm
I’m all for spending Giants money. Smartly. Would Stanton help? Sure. But he just makes the team more serviceable, and the HRs pump the Wow factor. Baer has a lot of PT Barnum in him. That will be on full force if Stanton comes. IF …
Oh definitely. Stanton would be THE entire marketing campaign. The marketing would be way over the top.
We need “the rent is too high” guy to do a national campaign that “major league sports ticket prices are too high!”
The Rangers’ ticket prices probably are extreme compared to most other NHL teams. On Stubhub, I can get a Devils-Canucks ticket for about $35, and the cheapest for Islanders-Canucks is $6! Both teams currently have a better record than the Rangers.
AT&T is worlds better than when it opened, I’ll tell you that. The first 4 years I got to use my cousin’s (yes, his name was Chuck) club level seats in sec 210. Great seats, and all around us were laptop-toting suit-wearing nimrods who did little more than network, talk M&As and spend half the game in the bar.
The bleachers are still pretty fun as far as the old-school feel goes.
Fun fact, My father’s father was Charles, my mom’s father was Charles, my mom’s brother is Charles, my dad’s brother is Charles, my uncle Charles on mom’s side has a son named Charles, my uncle Charles on my dad’s side has a son named Charles. My dad’s business partner is named Charles. One of my cousins on my dad’s side named his son Charles, one of my cousins on my mom’s side named his son Charles. So, naturally i named my son . . . Garrett.
PS My daughter is dating (and will prolly marry) a guy named Charles.
That is unreal for those Ranger tix, DJ. SF baseball is getting nutty, and when I took the whole family (5 of us) to a game sitting in ower reserve seats, it was upwards of $600 all told with tix, food, drinks, and parking. And that was in 2014. I did the bleachers with me and 2 kids this year, and it was $80.00 (we ate at Red’s and skipped the ballpark food).
I dig the bleachers on a sunny Sat afternoon game, but I don’t dig the sunburn potential out there. Nor the slathering of sun scren on my face and arms unless I want to wear a burka out there. Getting old and picky, I guess …
Just read this from a Sacramento radio station
Craig Mish of SiriusXM Radio reported Monday that the Giants and Marlins discussed one trade proposal that would send Stanton and second baseman Dee Gordon to San Francisco for second baseman Joe Panik, minor league pitcher Tyler Beede and minor league outfielder Chris Shaw.
But once again nothing about money – the key to everything on the planet…
one day, this wedding will finally happen…
Seems like a top prospect could do better. Just sayin.
He proposed right in front of that rockin’ band!
Your future husband will probably be here and gone before you know it too, sis…
Trade Belt for Bradley and go after Hosmer for 1st, now we’re looking good if we get Stanton&Gordon..
Giants trade for Stanton! Edwin Stanton, that is. Lincoln’s Secretary of War. Great beard! Fits right in with today’s bearded players.
If SF takes the $40 million for Stanton and Gordon, they’ll have to shed salary somewhere. Like trade Samardzxxx, get a pair of outfield prospects or one good one, and hope Stratton works out in the rotation. Samardzxxx has a limited no trade deal…
yeah, Cueto staying could actually help move Smarge. They’ll be less reluctant to move him. I wonder what a *Smarge* gets you in return? Some GM’s may still get fooled by his insane K/bb ratio.
Fun fact: I have never watched an entire period of hockey. There’s 3 of them, right? I’ve tried once or twice to sit through a Sharks playoff game or two. Can’t do it.
For pure non-stop excitement (and agony), nothing beats overtime playoff hockey, especially when you have a rooting interest…
I’ve heard. I just don’t understand the game enough to get into it
The hockey dudes appear to me tougher than football players by far. They’ve got to have some kind of concussion/CTE issues going on, they’re always pounding on each other and slamming each other’s heads into the boards. I’ve never been to a Sharks tilt. Wouldn’t mind it, but not interested in paying a king’s ransom to see one. What’s with the two intermissions? Because the players get too tired and need a break twice, or does the ice get so ripped up it needs the Zamboni twice per game?…
Happy Gratitudefocusday, folks. Love me that RPAD. How much younger we look in those pics!
I just finished Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders (of SU). As original a book as I’ve read, up there with James Joyce’s Ulysses and the Interrogative Mood by Padgett Powell.
I agree. Saunders is brilliant and Lincoln in the Bardo is completely original. Syracuse guy, too, right?
Oh now I see the su
zumiee, if you’re a Lincoln aficionado, it’s for you; you must’ve triggered me from your post above
I’ve heard lots of great things about the book. I need to get to it.
I’m currently reading a pithy little British mystery novel- “Brat Farrar,” by Josephine Tey. Very enjoyable.
I have no intellectual pursuits which is why I never comment during these types of exchanges…
I saw an entertaining movie this evening. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. Very violent and very funny, among other things.
My kids want to see that.
everyone wants to see it. I don’t know if everyone will be pleased. Good movie, though. Best I’ve seen since Manchester by the Sea.
the Townes Van Zandt song that dominates the sound track is perfect
What song?
buckskin stallion blues, takes over twice, once in Townes voice and much much later in a great cover from Amy Annelle
Kings are looking good vs. the Lakers tonight.
The Lakers aren’t all that good.
But it’s always fun to beat the Lakers.
bunch of articles out there all of sudden about how many troubles the new Marlins owners have. I guess that could cut both ways