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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 22, 2017

The local radioheads kept filling the airwaves with hopeful Stanton wishes. They stand by their claim that the main selling point from the Giants camp is their ability to take on the contract of both Stanton and Gordon. This doesn’t make any sense to me. With the team up against the lux cap already, and with other teams with big cash way below it, how is this *advantage SF?*

I am for bringing all of these guys aboard. I know I’ve been back and forth on this. But I’m already tired of completely wasted years like the one we just went through. If we pay a few more guys too much money, who cares? We’re already doing that. And it’s not like the brass is going to suddenly wake up and decide a tear down is the way to go. So I want them to get as good as they can get with new, expensive players. And if we add Gordon and Stanton and lose Panik (really, Joe is like a healthier version of Duffy) and Bum and Cueto bounce back, who’s to say we can’t compete for a WC spot next year.

I’ll take that. With nothing in the pipeline, another year of narrowly avoiding 100 losses is of no interest to me……

RPAD Time:

A nice Thanksgiving day retro from 2012

https://oneflapdown77.com/2012/11/22/happy-thanksgiving-flappers/

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  1. Flavor said, on November 22, 2017 at 6:37 am

    Platinum Gold

  2. zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 6:39 am

    IF the Giants were to go into total rebuild mode, they would need to lower ticket prices. Some of the Club level tickets are over $100 now for certain games. You can’t charge that much for a team losing 90+ games. Ticket prices were raised a lot during the 3-in-5.

    • Lurker John said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:10 am

      I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one. It’s unbelievable how ticket prices have skyrocketed in recent years.

      • djloo27 said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:18 am

        It’s totally sick. Somebody was nice enough to give me Ranger tickets for Sunday.
        Face price: $ 317 each – and it’s hardly the best seat in the house.
        A regular season afternoon game against the Vancouver Canucks…

      • Lurker John said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:22 am

        And hockey contracts are the least offensive of the major sports, at least for the average player. Fun sport to watch live. I wouldn’t mind catching a game in the Garden some time before I depart.

      • djloo27 said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:39 am

        It used to be much more fun.
        Fights on the ice (and in the stands). Vulgarities hurled at both teams.
        No little kids and very few women. Cigarette smoke. Airhorns. It’s so sanitized now.
        Like anywhere else a lot of the true fans can’t afford to come too often.
        And the real hard core of the past (like myself) has aged and just don’t get loud like we used to…

      • Lurker John said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:04 am

        That’s too bad, because it is great sport. I became a fan in the ’70’s when my family moved to south Jersey right outside of Philly. Moving from CA, hockey was a complete mystery. The Golden Bears had recently folded and hockey just wasn’t done in California at the time.

        Some of my new HS friends got me into the Flyers and it was on after that. Once I understood the game, I became a die hard fan hand have been ever since. This in the old Broad Street Bully days when the NHL was much different than it is today, like you said. Some goalies still not wearing masks. Balls to the wall.

        I’m sure you’re cringing right now, Loo, as a Rangers fan. lol . We went to some games, including at the old Fabulous Forum when we moved back to CA. You remember those teams right? Marcel Dionne, Butch Goring, Rogie Vashon, Dave Taylor, Charlie Simmer, those were fun teams to watch. Purple unis with the big crown on the front.

        Anyway, it was a ton of fun to watch at the arena then. Fast, hard hitting, skillful. What’s not to like?

      • djloo27 said, on November 22, 2017 at 2:40 pm

        Sure LJ. Dark memories of those Flyer series. The Rolfe mugging and Hadfield caught on camera laughing on the brink of elimination. That was the end of the era for those talented Ranger teams that could never get over the hump. Rangers obtained the washed up Dionne at the end of his career. Lafleur,too…

  3. zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 6:50 am

    Here’s what the Central Valley looks like right now:

  4. Lurker John said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:07 am

    You plug Stanton into the clean up spot and Posey into the third spot, Buster figures to be much better from a run production standpoint. He’s always been a natural three hole hitter to me. With Gordon at the top, IMO a far better speed and on-base threat than Hamilton, and you’ve got a pretty well revamped top half of the order. Maybe a guy like Arroyo in the 2-hole, if he pans out. Gordon would wreak some serious havoc on the base paths, something the Giants haven’t had in years, if ever. 200 hits and 60 steals last year. The Giants are in desperate need of a table setter. He’s also pretty good defensively.

    I keep hearing these Stanton rumors and still don’t really see how he ends up with the Giants, but where there’s smoke there’s fire I suppose. It’s just hard to imagining our conservative Giants front office taking on such a huge contract, or, more importantly, having enough of what the Marlins would want.. With our luck lately, he’ll end up in LA.

    • djloo27 said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:15 am

      I feel like some team (like the Angels or whoever) is just lurking and will swoop in and grab Stanton.
      Vegas odd have the Giants as the overwhelming (2-5) favorite to get him….

      • Lurker John said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:20 am

        Kind of how I feel.

      • Lurker John said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:08 am

        I wonder why Vegas favors them. Maybe they know something we don’t.

  5. Lurker John said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:20 am

    If Gordon came over, I wouldn’t shed tears over Panik leaving either. I like Joe, but c’mon…

  6. zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 8:49 am

    Yeah, this illusion that Joe Six-pack could bring the wife and kids to a major league baseball game nowadays, or any other major league sport- forget it. It’s not Joe Six-pack bringing the wife and kids. It’s Joe White-collar-worker and the wife and kids.

    • zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 8:53 am

      That’s what I can’t stand about the comment section at McCovey Chronicles. It all sounds like a bunch of poser bandwagon-jumpers. There’s no grit to their comment section. I get the feeling that hardly any of them are from the Candlestick era.

      • zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 8:54 am

        And I’m not negative about white collar workers. I think technically I am one. I’m just negative on blue collar workers being priced out of major league sports attendance.

      • Lurker John said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:08 am

        Send ’em over here, they’ll get all the grit they can handle. LOL

      • zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:11 am

        Some of the yuppie Giants fans need some grit! They need to experience what it was like to sit in Candlestick and have dirt and hot dog wrappers blowing in your face all game! And freezing Arctic wind and temperatures!

  7. dirtnrocksnomo said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:02 am

    If you want to ignore the concussion issues,a healthier Duffy is a good way to describe Panik. Dude made a great play in the WS but he’s not a franchise cornerstone. If he has to be part of a Stanton deal then do it. Most club’s systems regularly churn out these kind of players. Arroyo needs to prove it but I think he’s pretty much the same player from the right side.

    Blast from the past on the retro thread. Twin was happy and in his element – talking food and glory days. My son is now 4 &1/2.

    • zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:15 am

      Yeah, those comments are fun to read.
      My comment turned out to be way off. “I’m looking forward to seeing RG III play”
      lqtm

  8. snarkk said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:12 am

    I’m all for spending Giants money. Smartly. Would Stanton help? Sure. But he just makes the team more serviceable, and the HRs pump the Wow factor. Baer has a lot of PT Barnum in him. That will be on full force if Stanton comes. IF …

    • zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:16 am

      Oh definitely. Stanton would be THE entire marketing campaign. The marketing would be way over the top.

  9. zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:19 am

    We need “the rent is too high” guy to do a national campaign that “major league sports ticket prices are too high!”

  10. Macdog said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:32 am

    The Rangers’ ticket prices probably are extreme compared to most other NHL teams. On Stubhub, I can get a Devils-Canucks ticket for about $35, and the cheapest for Islanders-Canucks is $6! Both teams currently have a better record than the Rangers.

  11. unca_chuck said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:37 am

    AT&T is worlds better than when it opened, I’ll tell you that. The first 4 years I got to use my cousin’s (yes, his name was Chuck) club level seats in sec 210. Great seats, and all around us were laptop-toting suit-wearing nimrods who did little more than network, talk M&As and spend half the game in the bar.

    The bleachers are still pretty fun as far as the old-school feel goes.

    Fun fact, My father’s father was Charles, my mom’s father was Charles, my mom’s brother is Charles, my dad’s brother is Charles, my uncle Charles on mom’s side has a son named Charles, my uncle Charles on my dad’s side has a son named Charles. My dad’s business partner is named Charles. One of my cousins on my dad’s side named his son Charles, one of my cousins on my mom’s side named his son Charles. So, naturally i named my son . . . Garrett.

    PS My daughter is dating (and will prolly marry) a guy named Charles.

  12. unca_chuck said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:41 am

    That is unreal for those Ranger tix, DJ. SF baseball is getting nutty, and when I took the whole family (5 of us) to a game sitting in ower reserve seats, it was upwards of $600 all told with tix, food, drinks, and parking. And that was in 2014. I did the bleachers with me and 2 kids this year, and it was $80.00 (we ate at Red’s and skipped the ballpark food).

    • snarkk said, on November 22, 2017 at 10:39 am

      I dig the bleachers on a sunny Sat afternoon game, but I don’t dig the sunburn potential out there. Nor the slathering of sun scren on my face and arms unless I want to wear a burka out there. Getting old and picky, I guess …

  13. Irish Kevin said, on November 22, 2017 at 10:37 am

    Just read this from a Sacramento radio station

    Craig Mish of SiriusXM Radio reported Monday that the Giants and Marlins discussed one trade proposal that would send Stanton and second baseman Dee Gordon to San Francisco for second baseman Joe Panik, minor league pitcher Tyler Beede and minor league outfielder Chris Shaw.

    • djloo27 said, on November 22, 2017 at 10:44 am

      But once again nothing about money – the key to everything on the planet…

  14. Flavor said, on November 22, 2017 at 11:24 am

    one day, this wedding will finally happen…

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on November 22, 2017 at 1:33 pm

      Seems like a top prospect could do better. Just sayin.

      • zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 2:01 pm

        He proposed right in front of that rockin’ band!

    • djloo27 said, on November 22, 2017 at 2:44 pm

      Your future husband will probably be here and gone before you know it too, sis…

  15. alleykat69 said, on November 22, 2017 at 11:48 am

    Trade Belt for Bradley and go after Hosmer for 1st, now we’re looking good if we get Stanton&Gordon..

  16. zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    Giants trade for Stanton! Edwin Stanton, that is. Lincoln’s Secretary of War. Great beard! Fits right in with today’s bearded players.

    • snarkk said, on November 22, 2017 at 3:19 pm

      If SF takes the $40 million for Stanton and Gordon, they’ll have to shed salary somewhere. Like trade Samardzxxx, get a pair of outfield prospects or one good one, and hope Stratton works out in the rotation. Samardzxxx has a limited no trade deal…

      • Flavor said, on November 22, 2017 at 4:11 pm

        yeah, Cueto staying could actually help move Smarge. They’ll be less reluctant to move him. I wonder what a *Smarge* gets you in return? Some GM’s may still get fooled by his insane K/bb ratio.
        Fun fact: I have never watched an entire period of hockey. There’s 3 of them, right? I’ve tried once or twice to sit through a Sharks playoff game or two. Can’t do it.

      • djloo27 said, on November 22, 2017 at 5:19 pm

        For pure non-stop excitement (and agony), nothing beats overtime playoff hockey, especially when you have a rooting interest…

      • Flavor said, on November 22, 2017 at 5:32 pm

        I’ve heard. I just don’t understand the game enough to get into it

      • snarkk said, on November 22, 2017 at 5:35 pm

        The hockey dudes appear to me tougher than football players by far. They’ve got to have some kind of concussion/CTE issues going on, they’re always pounding on each other and slamming each other’s heads into the boards. I’ve never been to a Sharks tilt. Wouldn’t mind it, but not interested in paying a king’s ransom to see one. What’s with the two intermissions? Because the players get too tired and need a break twice, or does the ice get so ripped up it needs the Zamboni twice per game?…

  17. pawliekokonuts said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    Happy Gratitudefocusday, folks. Love me that RPAD. How much younger we look in those pics!

  18. pawliekokonuts said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    I just finished Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders (of SU). As original a book as I’ve read, up there with James Joyce’s Ulysses and the Interrogative Mood by Padgett Powell.

    • xoot said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:14 pm

      I agree. Saunders is brilliant and Lincoln in the Bardo is completely original. Syracuse guy, too, right?

      • xoot said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:15 pm

        Oh now I see the su

  19. pawliekokonuts said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    zumiee, if you’re a Lincoln aficionado, it’s for you; you must’ve triggered me from your post above

    • zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 7:22 pm

      I’ve heard lots of great things about the book. I need to get to it.
      I’m currently reading a pithy little British mystery novel- “Brat Farrar,” by Josephine Tey. Very enjoyable.

      • djloo27 said, on November 22, 2017 at 8:07 pm

        I have no intellectual pursuits which is why I never comment during these types of exchanges…

      • xoot said, on November 22, 2017 at 8:15 pm

        I saw an entertaining movie this evening. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. Very violent and very funny, among other things.

  20. unca_chuck said, on November 22, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    My kids want to see that.

    • xoot said, on November 22, 2017 at 8:36 pm

      everyone wants to see it. I don’t know if everyone will be pleased. Good movie, though. Best I’ve seen since Manchester by the Sea.

    • xoot said, on November 22, 2017 at 8:39 pm

      the Townes Van Zandt song that dominates the sound track is perfect

      • zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:40 pm

        What song?

      • xoot said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:57 pm

        buckskin stallion blues, takes over twice, once in Townes voice and much much later in a great cover from Amy Annelle

  21. zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    Kings are looking good vs. the Lakers tonight.
    The Lakers aren’t all that good.

    • zumiee said, on November 22, 2017 at 9:39 pm

      But it’s always fun to beat the Lakers.

  22. xoot said, on November 22, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    bunch of articles out there all of sudden about how many troubles the new Marlins owners have. I guess that could cut both ways


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