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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on December 22, 2017

Rod Brooks, one half of by far the worst KNBR tandem at the station, was saying his big concern about Jay Bruce was if his home run power was inflated by Great American Ballpark and how it might translate to another home park not as HR friendly. I angrily dialed the station (but couldn’t get through) to let him know that Bruce hasn’t played in Cinn since the middle of 2016 and since he left Ohio he hit 37 home runs with the Mets in 153 games. He went on to continue to blast the ball for the Indians. I guess it’s too much to expect that KNBR hosts even remotely keep up with players who don’t play for the Giants…..

The concern, of course, is that Bruce is left handed and how might his power be affected by Triples Alley.

I’d still take him on a 3 year, 50ish million dollar deal but he’ll probably get more than that from someone else…..

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  1. willedav said, on December 22, 2017 at 7:27 am

    mm I’d pass just because I’d rather see the kids (Shaw and Slater) fill the corners and save the $$$ for the real need, a CF beyond Gorks.
    Pretty funny KNBR would let a guy that clueless talk about baseball. Too bad you couldn’t get in to blast his stupid ass!

    • Flavor said, on December 22, 2017 at 7:50 am

      rod brooks and Bob Fitzgerald are horrendous. They’ve been cracking the same stupid jokes about how “gangsta” they are since they teamed up 10 years ago (or whenever it was).

  2. blade3colorado said, on December 22, 2017 at 8:03 am

    Yes, good observation on Bruce, Flav.

    Agree with Willie though – not only is he a liability in the outfield, but he’s also feast or famine at the plate. In 3 seasons going back to 2014, his OBP is under .300 (.316 w/Reds and .294 w/Mets split season) . . . Ugh. It will probably be worse at a pitchers park like we have. Big mistake signing him IMO.

  3. willedav said, on December 22, 2017 at 8:14 am

    Sad to hear about passing of Dick Enberg, class guy who could do any sport well. In the obit on cbs site said he called 2 of the Lincecum no hitters vs. Pads.
    He used to do Boxing from Olympic in LA during the ’60s, great weekly fight program shown up here I used to watch every weekend. Jimmy Lennon (senior) was the announcer, and to hear him intro the hometown fav Mexican fighters was great.

  4. dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 22, 2017 at 8:20 am

    Seems like Murph & Mac in the morning and Tolbert in the evening are the only good hosts at KNBR. I like P-Con’s Saloon show when I catch it but his overly serious commercial spot voice sort of creeps me out. How about that horse shit Happy Hour show? Comcast, or whatever they’re called has to regret that contract for Ratto. Talk about dead weight. The utter disdain every one of his colleagues have for him is palpable in any medium.

    Just say no to Jay Bruce.

    • blade3colorado said, on December 22, 2017 at 8:31 am

      Dirt, I rarely read the Chronicle anymore (mostly because they have a dialogue box which automatically appears asking me to subscribe if I want to read the article). Anyway, I downloaded the Bleacher Report app, which links to free Chronicle articles and columns. Not certain, but I think you indicated (maybe Flav too) that John Shea basically “mails it in.”

      I read 3 of his recent columns and numerous Twitter posts. What a waste of about an hour (I’ll never get back). He’s useless.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 22, 2017 at 8:38 am

        I had the BR app for a while but ultimately was disappointed with the content and it took forever to load. I’m thinking of giving the Atlantic a shot but paying for content is a big hurdle for me.

      • blade3colorado said, on December 22, 2017 at 8:52 am

        Me too. I read my monthly allotted 10 NY Times articles via an email summary of Times articles they send me each day. After that, I utilize a “work around,” where if you copy the headline and do a Google search, it doesn’t know who you are and allows you to read the article or column. I’d imagine it would also work for other papers as well.

  5. gianthead said, on December 22, 2017 at 8:51 am

    I was hoping Jay Bruce for 4 years and $50 mill was something reasonable but likely overly optimistic even if true that he wants to be a Giant.

    But I think 4 years at $60 mill is probably more in the ballpark he is looking for as a “discount” for the Giants.

  6. Lurker John said, on December 22, 2017 at 9:08 am

    Of course his numbers were enhanced by playing in Cincy. Anybody’s would be. It’s a bandbox.

    • Flavor said, on December 22, 2017 at 9:27 am

      but he was talking about him like he was still in Cinn. HIs great worry would be what would Bruce do if he left Cinn–he left in the middle of 2016

      • Lurker John said, on December 22, 2017 at 9:38 am

        Yeah, I get that. Personally, I think signing Bruce would be a mistake, meaning it’s probably exactly what the Giants will do. Good slugger but not the best fit for SF, imo.

      • Flavor said, on December 22, 2017 at 11:05 am

        i totally agree he’s not the best fit and I would prefer cain or ‘Cutch but if that’s who they add, I’ll take him.

  7. Flavor said, on December 22, 2017 at 9:25 am

    Jay Bruce is better than any of the outfielders we have. That’s why he’d be a good add for 2018.

    • Lurker John said, on December 22, 2017 at 9:44 am

      That’s not saying much, but it is true. I’m starting to mellow a bit on the Longoria signing. I suppose adding Bruce also would have to improve the middle of that lineup. I guess it’s just the letdown of not getting Stanton or Ozuna that makes those signings seem kind of tepid. One thing Bruce does have is prodigious power and he hits a lot of towering homers, so if anyone can make AT&T work it’d be him. I can see some splash hits from that dude.

      We’ll see how it plays out come spring.

      • Flavor said, on December 22, 2017 at 11:04 am

        I’m interested in the team being better and competitive next year. If we add Bruce I think some of the other guys will have bounce back years and we will be competitive. I’m not sweating a rebuild that should happen but that was never going to happen. If we lose another 98 next year, with Longo/Bruce/bounce back guys, I will be surprised.

  8. Lurker John said, on December 22, 2017 at 9:37 am

    RIP Dick Enberg. One of the greats and a genuinely nice man. So versatile, from Wimbledon tennis to football and, of course, baseball. For years he did radio play-by-play for the California Angels and was the mentor of the great Dave Neihaus who spent about 35 years with the Seattle Mariners. With him and Vin Scully right up the road, I don’t think any region could boast a better tandem. One of the great radio guys ever. He provided me and many others with a lot of joy. So sad!

    • Flavor said, on December 22, 2017 at 11:06 am

      yup. My childhood has his voice imprinted all over it.

  9. alleykat69 said, on December 22, 2017 at 11:11 am

    What you said LJ!!
    Dick Enberg was a true gentleman with a kind soul and a professional in the business !
    RIP Dick Enberg you will be missed..

  10. alleykat69 said, on December 22, 2017 at 11:44 am

    Latest rumors…Giants talking to the brew crew about their abundance of Outfielders Santana, Keon Broxton others..
    Broxton CF has power,speedhey only 27 is that possible for a Giant?
    Bad news K’s a lot , OBP sucks as well..

  11. dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 22, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    In another big move from Booby, the Giants sign Josh Rutledge to a minor league deal. Tomlinson on his way somewhere?

  12. unca_chuck said, on December 22, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    Speed and power work for me. Do it. Broxton’s 10x better than Gorkys

    • alleykat69 said, on December 22, 2017 at 1:11 pm

      Anybody’s 10x better then Gorky
      Brew crew needs a 2B
      Panik could be on the move again..

  13. djloo27 said, on December 22, 2017 at 1:12 pm

    Seeing some talk about Lagares who I like a lot. I think I proposed some wacky deal for him last year…

    • Flavor said, on December 22, 2017 at 1:57 pm

      djloo27 said, on August 8, 2017 at 4:08 pm (Edit)
      Panik is a great fit for the Mets and we can plug Specs right into second base. They have 2 guys that I would really like to get – Wilmer Flores (whose best position is 3B) and Juan Lagares (injury prone, but great defensive CF who I think will hit as a Giant). Assuming Panda flops, I would offer the Mets Panik, Strickland, Gorky and Okert for those two…

      • djloo27 said, on December 22, 2017 at 3:20 pm

        Nice research there, Flavor!
        I’d still do that deal now and play Flores at 2nd.
        Does it make any sense for both teams?

      • djloo27 said, on December 22, 2017 at 3:30 pm

        Mets just simply refuse to give Flores F/T job.
        One detriment is that he is a painfully slow base runner…

      • Flavor said, on December 22, 2017 at 3:33 pm

        i probably wouldn’t give them Panik just because I think he’s a little more valuable as a trade chip than what those guys would bring with them to SF. But I would like to get both of them somehow.

  14. alleykat69 said, on December 22, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    I’ll take Keon Broxton over Lagares. More power, just as good of glove, better obp as well.
    But who knows with Booby trying to deal a trade??

  15. Flavor said, on December 22, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    does Pence have one last run in him? Looks like 2 hundo plates, 4 45s and 2 35s…

    • blade3colorado said, on December 22, 2017 at 5:07 pm

      I don’t know how that translates to hitting a ball or fielding a line drive into the gap, but that’s impressive. Personally, I’m hoping for him, but age 35 is hard to overcome as an athlete.

  16. blade3colorado said, on December 22, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    This clip of Dan Le Batard interviewing Rob Manfred is hilarious. You can’t see Manfred, but you know the worm is squirming. IMO, the Commish is a LIAR regarding his knowledge of Jeter’s roster “garage sale.” By the by, why can’t the San Francisco area get journalists (print, radio, or TV) like this?

    • djloo27 said, on December 22, 2017 at 6:21 pm

      Great stuff. We rarely if ever get anything this good back here, either…

  17. blade3colorado said, on December 22, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    I doubt we have enough in the cupboard to obtain Santana or Broxton. Brew Crew needs are a 2nd baseman. Ludicrous IMO to trade Panik and/or more of our prospects for either of these guys. Both have severe holes in their game.

    I do like Brett Phillips or Lewis Brinson. However, the Brewers will ask the world for them as well. Both project well at the MLB level in 2018 after excellent minor league seasons in the previous year.

  18. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 22, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    Giants’ strategy for the upcoming season or three seems to be this: 1) try for at least one more shot at a ring while “the core” is still here (Craw/Belt/Posey/Bum etc.) by adding players like Longoria that management thinks can help the team win now; and 2) hope that within that time-frame of the next few seasons, the minor league system will be “fixed” and can adequately start replacing those core players as they retire…. and a rebuild will never be needed. Maybe this will work, and it *should* make the team at least more competitive and enjoyable to watch, but in general, I’m not sure the team should be doing too many trades like the one to get Longoria — where the Giants ship out young prospects for a player who is 32 years old and already in the inevitable slide down. Already have too many “core” players like that. This team obviously needs to be getting younger, not adding post-30’s aging players. If that strategy doesn’t work, then a rebuild might indeed be needed anyway a bit further down the road, but likely after Bochy and Sabean have retired so they don’t have to deal with it. Let’s see what happens the rest of this off-season….

  19. snarkk said, on December 22, 2017 at 8:36 pm

    At SFO headin over to Munich in about an hour. Frohe Weihnachten and Happy New Year to all Flappers!!! …

    • djloo27 said, on December 22, 2017 at 8:51 pm

      Safe trip, Snarkkie. Merry Christmas!

  20. Macdog said, on December 22, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    Someone on Twitter pointed out Longoria is a year younger than Justin Turner. Ok, so the Bums are a bit younger (and talented) than the Giants at a few other positions.


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