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Not Sure When the Expire Date is on these Posts, So . . . . .

Posted in Uncategorized by unca_chuck on January 8, 2018

. . . better early than late. Absolutely nothing to report on in the baseball world, other than the Sporting News throwing a little shade on the once-almighty Derek Jeter.

Enjoy . . .

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/derek-jeter-marlins-owner-ceo-decisions-firings-giancarlo-stanton-trade-rebuild/11641xbac64t41qho8w60cpzne

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  1. unca_chuck said, on January 8, 2018 at 3:51 pm

    And DJ, I feel your pain as a long-time Chiefs fan. Stupid fuckers couldn’t close a game handed to them. Granted Jeff Triplette is one of the worst officials in the NFL who missed a clear fumble on the sack to Mariota that gave Tenn 3 late in the 1st half, but to go scoreless in the 2nd half and giving up on the run after it worked in the 1st quarter was awful on Reid’s part. Reid ain;’t no Hank Stram. Dumb dumb dumb.

    • djloo27 said, on January 8, 2018 at 5:27 pm

      Thanks, Chuck. I’m so used to it by now that it wears off pretty quick. The refs were awful, the defense couldn’t get off the field, but Reid is reason # 1 again. He’s gotta go.

      The thing I can’t seem to get a straight answer on is whether or not the hit on Kelce was legal or not. I thought all helmet to helmet hits were outlawed. Some people are saying that because Kelce was running and therefore not “defenseless” the hit was ok. I don’t buy that…

      • unca_chuck said, on January 8, 2018 at 8:13 pm

        Yeah, I know. That should be an instant ejection if they want to really clean up the game. Beyond that, the play was a fumble by Kelce. I’m 100% sure the refs overlooked it because he was knocked cold.

  2. zumiee said, on January 8, 2018 at 3:54 pm

    The Dodgers quietly traded for a promising relief pitcher from the Royals. He won’t be as good as Morrow was for them last season, though. Morrow was lights out for them, until he ran out of gas in the World Series.
    Morrow, of course, is the new Cubs closer.

    • zumiee said, on January 8, 2018 at 3:59 pm

      The guy from the Royals is Scott Alexander, and will be given a chance to be the Dodgers’ 8th inning guy.

  3. unca_chuck said, on January 8, 2018 at 3:58 pm

    From the previous thread, Xoot’s post.

    Verducci’s repeating the verdict that came in long ago.
    https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/14/16044264/2017-mlb-home-run-spike-juiced-ball-testing-reveal-155cd21108bc

    Funny, the HR jump coincided exactly (2016 All Star break) as the point when the Giants went downhill.

    • xoot said, on January 8, 2018 at 4:24 pm

      that’s true, and worth some stat-head examining, but the Romo, Lopez, Casilla collective failure toward the end of that season had less to do with juiced baseballs and more to do with arms gone bad. Nonetheless, is it possible the Giants had no clue the juice was in while most everyone else figure it out?

      • zumiee said, on January 8, 2018 at 4:39 pm

        I think some other teams were already leaning towards HRs and launch-angle because of sabermetric reasons, and then the juiced ball fell right in their laps. The Dodgers realized they could just let Pederson and Grandal keep their big uppercut/high strike-out swings and that would be fine. They also encouraged other players to go more uppercut.

      • xoot said, on January 8, 2018 at 4:57 pm

        Grandal hit 12 HRs in the first half of 2016 and 15 in the second half, after the original juiced ball was introduced. The ball, imo, got juiced even more before the start of last season.

      • xoot said, on January 8, 2018 at 4:57 pm

        so–my question remains: Who knew?

      • zumiee said, on January 8, 2018 at 5:25 pm

        None of the teams knew initially, but which teams figured it out first? That would be interesting to know.

      • zumiee said, on January 8, 2018 at 5:27 pm

        The Giants were a worst-case scenario: a high payroll team built for an instantly out-moded form of baseball.

      • xoot said, on January 8, 2018 at 5:59 pm

        I’m not convinced that’s the right answer to my question.

  4. alleykat69 said, on January 8, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    Jake Fromm sure doesn’t play like a true freshman.Has the tide on their heels.Remember seeing him early in the season a few times,thinking he’s pretty polished for a freshman in a big program..

  5. zumiee said, on January 8, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    Deja vu for football fans in Georgia. Super Bowl flashback.

  6. blade3colorado said, on January 8, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    Any significant SF Giants blame or excuses directed toward the juiced ball is wrong in my opinion. Frankly, our players collectively stink. The roster is old, slow, without power, and has been putrid for a season and a half. There’s almost zero reason to hope for any of our players having “comeback” seasons. Cueto might be the exception.

    Maybe we finish ahead of the Padres. Our roster, coupled with a brain dead front office, gives me little confidence beyond that goal.

    • djloo27 said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:45 pm

      I decided I’m going all radio in 2018.
      I’m gonna cut the cable when my Rangers get bounced.
      Never want to see a football game again…

      • Macdog said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:48 pm

        I guess Giants-Chiefs in 2025 is out?

      • djloo27 said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:55 pm

        It’s not impossible, Mac.
        I’ve been known to flip-flop…

      • djloo27 said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:58 pm

        Mac, did you happen to read my 5:27 PM question and do you know the answer?

      • Macdog said, on January 8, 2018 at 10:10 pm

        I think you kind of answered it, he was a runner and is somehow not “defenseless.” There are always head-to-head collisions that aren’t deliberate, although the Kelce one sure didn’t seem like one of them.

  7. zumiee said, on January 8, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    Lots of dumb penalties in the game.

    • Macdog said, on January 8, 2018 at 8:57 pm

      Refs call that facemask but somehow missed the one on ‘Bama early 3rd quarter that may be the turning point.

  8. xoot said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    That would’ve been a very entertaining game if it’d ended there, in reg time. Now wtf cares?

  9. wilcojoe said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    If Bama loses, that poor kicker will need a security escort on his way back to Tuscaloosa.

  10. wilcojoe said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    Kurt Rambis nails the potential winner for the Dawgs!

  11. wilcojoe said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    In the words of the late Dick Enberg, “Oh My!”

  12. Macdog said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:11 pm

    How the hell does Georgia D allow that to happen?

  13. zumiee said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    Awesome pass coverage by Georgia.

  14. wilcojoe said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:21 pm

    That was a ballsy call by Sabean going to the untested True Freshman in the second half and did it ever pay off. That kid looked like an upperclass Deshaun Watson instead of the freshman that he is. Unreal!

    • wilcojoe said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:22 pm

      Ha! My autocorrect went with Sabean instead of Saban.

  15. alleykat69 said, on January 8, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    Won the game with that move WJ.
    They lose for sure if Saban stuck with Hurts
    Kid reminded of Sunshine in “Remember the Titans” pulling out wins..

  16. willedav said, on January 9, 2018 at 7:34 am

    Great finish. thought Bama was done after the dumb sack the frosh QB took, then he fires game winner from 41 yds. out.
    Good to see local kid Najee Harris did some good things. Chron followed him pretty heavy during last HS season at Antioch, his decision on where to go yada yada. I really hope he sticks it out for 4 yrs and graduates.
    typical hard times story, kid from hood with single mom. NFL running back is not a long career so I would hope he has something to fall back on.

  17. willedav said, on January 9, 2018 at 7:36 am

    wonder if that is some kind of college record for longest yds on TD pass in OT. ?

  18. unca_chuck said, on January 9, 2018 at 8:20 am

    It probably is. Mainly because they start from the 25. That was probably the longest sack in OT history.

    The Dawgs just can’t let that play happen. They were pretty much out of FG range at that point. Their kicker had missed a 47 yard FG and he would have lined up for a 58 yarder in that spot.

    • willedav said, on January 9, 2018 at 10:18 am

      yeah. second down and 26, keep everything in front of you and tackle them after the catch.
      Wilco 9:09 Rambis FG kicker for Georgia was funny.

      Fun fact—Rambis, pretty free spirit with Lakers, went to Cupertino HS where I coached about 15 yrs later and was same type of player then as with LA—fierce inside, great hustle no outside shot. Think he once got like 60 in section playoff game.

      • unca_chuck said, on January 9, 2018 at 1:49 pm

        I’ve never liked the Lakers, but I did like Rambis’s game. He played like the guy on the Dubs. Larry Johnson? Larry Jackson? The hard hat guy?

      • unca_chuck said, on January 9, 2018 at 1:59 pm

        Larry Smith . . .

  19. alleykat69 said, on January 9, 2018 at 11:55 am

    They could of added Rambis as a 4th Hanson brother in “Slapshot”

  20. alleykat69 said, on January 9, 2018 at 5:43 pm

    Larry Smith one of my all time favorite Warrior.
    Yeah had his own cult followers up in the cheap seats with their hard hats on and I believe some wore tool belts too..Classic
    Also his nickname was Mr.Mean he was a savage on the boards! Another Warrior like that was Clyde Lee,this guys were both junkyard dogs who I truly respected..

  21. unca_chuck said, on January 9, 2018 at 8:03 pm

    Yup. Anotehr grinder like that was (sp) Sarunas Marcelonus.

  22. willedav said, on January 9, 2018 at 8:28 pm

    Loved Mr. Mean, pride of Alcorn St. same as Steve Air Mc Nair.
    warriors used to run first play of game for him. He’d be on one block, then get a cross screen for a post up…which he often missed (tho he hit over 50% of his shots often) and then he’d pick the rebounding foul
    Dick Callahan—“Loose ball foul on the Warriors number 13…”

  23. Macdog said, on January 9, 2018 at 8:48 pm

  24. gianthead said, on January 10, 2018 at 8:52 am

    How can there be no free agent movement of any sort???? Smells like collusion…

    • gianthead said, on January 10, 2018 at 8:53 am

      Loved Larry Smith…mybm 3 fav warriors pre-Run TMC….

      1) Bernard King
      2) World B. Free
      3) Larry Smith….

      Purvis Short close..

    • xoot said, on January 10, 2018 at 9:11 am

      Naw. Antitrust lawyers would call this conscious parallelism.

      • zumiee said, on January 10, 2018 at 9:18 am

        Yeah, because of sabermetrics, the GMs all have similar evaluations of the players which means bad news for free agents wanting to score a huge contract.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on January 10, 2018 at 9:46 am

        xoot, I absolutely love your lawyerly euphemism!

      • gianthead said, on January 10, 2018 at 10:27 am

        Sounds straight from DC…

  25. zumiee said, on January 10, 2018 at 9:20 am

    Looks like the Astros may be getting Gerrit Cole in a trade. Nice addition.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on January 10, 2018 at 9:58 am

      I’ve said all along the Astros are going to be contenders for a good long while, a duration not precisely quantified by any sabrmetric. I spelled it that way because of its origin, the Society for American Baseball Research. Back in 1987, my former boss, Gerald Tomlinson, who was an executive editor at a textbook company, Silver Burdett, in Morristown, NJ, came out with The Baseball Research Handbook for SABR.

      https://sabr.org/how-to

      It is a gem. It’s the Strunk & White of baseball research. Now, if I can only locate it….

      • zumiee said, on January 10, 2018 at 10:09 am

        Back in the ’80s I read some of Bill James’ early publications, but kind of drifted away from them, at the same time his movement was growing.
        He did a remarkable thing. He created a truly grassroots fan-based revolution. Now the industry has fully absorbed his revolution, and he’s on the Red Sox payroll.
        When he started his Baseball Abstract he was a security guard at a warehouse.

    • gianthead said, on January 10, 2018 at 10:28 am

      Better Stros than Yanks…

  26. zumiee said, on January 10, 2018 at 9:23 am

    It’s concerning that the team with the worst outfielders (spoiler alert: the Giants) has not improved that worst outfield group yet.

    • gianthead said, on January 10, 2018 at 10:30 am

      It is nauseating Zum…

    • Macdog said, on January 10, 2018 at 10:38 am

      They did get rid of Span.

  27. alleykat69 said, on January 10, 2018 at 10:01 am

    Happy Birthday Willie “Stretch”McCovey!!
    80 years old and still the MAN!!’
    All time favorite Giant!!
    No disrespect for Willie Mays but he is a original Giant coming up thru the SF farm system..

  28. unca_chuck said, on January 10, 2018 at 10:50 am

    They had a nice article asbout Willie Mac in the Chron recently. His knees are shot, and he’s gone through a ton of bad shit, but he looks great.

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/shea/article/Giants-legend-Willie-McCovey-at-80-Every-day-12478995.php

  29. Flavor said, on January 10, 2018 at 11:05 am

    neuvo thread


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