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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on February 1, 2018

 

You think you’re bored this off season? Look at what this guy’s been doing:

He’s not an Astros fan. And he’s made a LOT of different 3D scenes….

I still haven’t gotten around to combing through the Room B emails. Maybe that’s a door better left unopened.

 

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  1. zumiee said, on February 1, 2018 at 9:37 am

    Bregman’s HR bears a striking resemblance to Bobby Thomson’s historic HR. The dirty little secret about Thomson’s HR is that it was a cheapo shot down the line at the oddly configurated Polo Grounds.

  2. zumiee said, on February 1, 2018 at 9:40 am

    Bregman’s a really good player, but his name is a little annoying. I keep wanting to read it as “Bergman.” I’m sure he’s spent his life correcting people on that.

  3. snarkk said, on February 1, 2018 at 9:47 am

    Might be heresy a little, but how many cheap HRs did Mays get while playing in the Polo Grounds? No doubt he lost some towards CF, but down both lines were chip shots…

    • unca_chuck said, on February 1, 2018 at 10:43 am

      Not nearly as many as he lost at the Stick. McCovey lost even more hitting into the teeth of the wind blowing in from the Bay.

  4. xoot said, on February 1, 2018 at 9:49 am

    Good article by Baggarly today on Bumgarner’s current and potential future contracts. I was surprised to learn that the same agent represents both Bumgarner and C.C. Sabathia. Htf did that guy negotiate MadBum’s current deal? It’s pretty hard to avoid the conclusion that the smartest move this year would be trading MadBum mid-season for a bounty of prospects (assuming he’s healthy and productive and somebody wants him). Talk about a break from the Giants MO of the first half of this decade.

    • xoot said, on February 1, 2018 at 9:53 am

      From the article:

      “That’s right. Bumgarner, with nearly eight years of service time, and a grain silo stacked to the ceiling with special accomplishments, will be the 11th-highest-paid player on the Giants roster in 2018. (That’s with the Red Sox paying 97 percent of Pablo Sandoval’s $18 million salary, but still … )

      “Bumgarner would have broken the bank as a first-time free agent in the winter after the 2016 season. Instead, he watched as the Giants gave Mark Melancon a record-setting four-year, $62 million contract. Bumgarner, who had thrown 3,771 pitches in 2016, the most of anyone in the major leagues, was locked into an $11.5 million salary. His ninth-inning specialist would make more than he did.”

      Bumgarner’s salary for an ace would be attractive to any 2018 contender, except maybe the teams straining to stay under the CBT threshold, the yanks and bums and cubs, I guess (Heyward’s contract is astonishing to me).

    • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on February 1, 2018 at 10:49 am

      “Nobody begrudged Matt Cain the millions he made over those final three injury-marred seasons, but the Giants could have otherwise invested that money to buy a whole lot more wins above replacement.”

      The Giants should build spacecraft capable of traveling faster than the speed of light, then make Salty the GM, send him back to 2012. He’ll know what not to do.
      Problem is, Bumgarner signed his team friendly contract six days after they extended Cain.
      Another problem, Salty, like most people, is better at second guessing than making real time evaluations. So in 2012, he knows everything that happened on one timeline up to 2018, but not our current future.
      As a rule, it’s not a mistake to sign popular players who’ve come up through your system. Signing free agents to expensive, long term contracts, especially pitchers, is another matter altogether.
      Pay the man his money.

  5. willedav said, on February 1, 2018 at 10:02 am

    Boras yesterday in Chron made the statement that many mlb teams simply do not want to get better, and oh btw sign his FA clients to lucrative long term deals. He called out the Giants in particular for being a very high revenue team that refuses to spend more money. It will be interesting to see how things shake out with new OF but I have feeling Evans will regret not signing more pitching.

    I can see logic from both sides. But resigning yourself to suckitude of a full rebuild, with all the $$ Giants have, I don’t get.

    I’m on record as being against trading Bum, and one reason is I don’t see how it improves the team. SPs of his quality (and I can withhold some judgement until 2019) are dang hard to come by and the replacements Giants currently have do not inspire much confidence. Work something out and let him continue in Giants uni.

  6. willedav said, on February 1, 2018 at 10:37 am

    Just saw this one which happened couple days ago—Giants signed reserve IF Andres Blanco, formerly of Phils, to minor league deal. 2015 he hit .290 and was 1.5 WAR player. 2016 he hit .250 and last year cratered to 190 while being paid $3 mil.
    .

  7. unca_chuck said, on February 1, 2018 at 10:41 am

    Funny, I just made a 3D print out of Hunter Pence grounding out to short.

    • snarkk said, on February 1, 2018 at 11:06 am

      How about one where he’s drinking from an oversize coffee cup?…

      • unca_chuck said, on February 1, 2018 at 2:12 pm

        Hah! You mean the mushroom-infused coffee beans shitted out by an ocelot in heat?

  8. unca_chuck said, on February 1, 2018 at 10:46 am

    Trade Bummie? Unless they score a ton of immediate and young help, I wouldn’t. Get some pen help now and ride the wobbly wagon to the finish line.

  9. snarkk said, on February 1, 2018 at 11:05 am

    Bum threw the most pitches in 2016 of any mlb hurler. Don’t extend this guy for $200+ million into the mid 2020s. Massive mistake. I like the trade idea mid 2018 to restock minors. It’ll never happen…

  10. unca_chuck said, on February 1, 2018 at 2:11 pm

    Talking about this year I think. He’s under contract for 2 more seasons so there’s no reason to be rash. Unless they get a killer offer. Frankly, the team will likely be sinking so it wouldn’t be a terrible idea.

    Who the fuck is SOAD talking to?

    • djloo27 said, on February 1, 2018 at 2:17 pm

      I was trying to figure that out, too…

    • xoot said, on February 1, 2018 at 2:26 pm

      theoretically they could get more for him if he wasn’t just a rental ready to hit FA for the first time. But this is all theory.

      • xoot said, on February 1, 2018 at 2:44 pm

        here’s a detail I’d forgotten–Bumgarner’s deal calls for him to receive $12M in 2019 at the club’s option. So a team trading for him this year could lock him up low or cut him loose for free after 2018. Jeezus. wtf was his agent thinking at the start of the 2012 season?

    • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on February 1, 2018 at 2:49 pm

      Not a who, a what.
      The quote is from the same article in The Athletic which was cited by the screen name known as Xoot.
      I believe there’s a human connection forged by friendship between Matt Cain’s 2012 extension and Bumgarner’s team friendly contract signed six days later.

      • unca_chuck said, on February 2, 2018 at 8:55 am

        Huh? So Cain’s extension is friends with Bummie’s contract? oooooo-k.

  11. djloo27 said, on February 1, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    They should have extended him after 2014. Now they’ll either lose him or wind up paying big bucks during his downfall. Think he would take a 3 year $75 million extension now?

  12. Stan Shell said, on February 1, 2018 at 4:10 pm

    It took me a couple of days:

    Ferret cries curses
    and Room B feelings rehashed
    Somewhere Twinfan laughs

    OSF

  13. snarkk said, on February 1, 2018 at 7:07 pm

    Boras whining about the slow pace of signings is funny.
    As if teams have to fall over themselves to sign his clients.
    Maybe he has cash flow problems…

  14. Flavor said, on February 1, 2018 at 7:34 pm

    Shelby Miller, who sucks, submitted a figure of 4.9 mil. Dbacks came in at 4.7 mil. They went all the way to arbitration over this (Miller won). What a complete waste of time and I bet it’s not fun to be a player in that tightwad organization…..

    • snarkk said, on February 1, 2018 at 8:31 pm

      Asinine. Sounds like not the beginning of a season’s beautiful friendship…

    • willedav said, on February 2, 2018 at 7:55 am

      yeah why bother? Idk, but I have feeling AZ isn’t going to have near as good a year as 2017, esp if they wind up losing Martinez. Paying him of course creates money problems for now and going forward.

      Rocks have done more to improve team so far, tho Blackmon appears to be out the door after this year.

  15. unca_chuck said, on February 2, 2018 at 8:51 am

    Shit, I’d love to have their problems.

  16. zumiee said, on February 2, 2018 at 9:10 am

    The baseball magazines are full of interesting facts.
    Here’s a not-so-fun fact: the Giants only won 3 road series all season last year.
    And…..the Giants open the 2018 regular season with 4 games at Dodger Stadium. Good times!

    • Macdog said, on February 2, 2018 at 10:00 am

      Pittsburgh, St. Louis, and I think they won a series in L.A.

  17. alleykat69 said, on February 2, 2018 at 9:26 am

    They always open on the road, just can’t figure why?
    If your out of it by August the extra home games at the end of the season are meaningless…

    • wilcojoe said, on February 2, 2018 at 11:12 am

      Yes but the opposite is more important. If your in the hunt, you want to be closing at home. I think I read somewhere where Baer actually gives the league permission to start on the road every season in return they get to end at home. Most teams prefer beginning at home as attendance is greater the first couple weeks if you begin the season at home. The Giants have never really had to worry about that.

      • xoot said, on February 2, 2018 at 11:20 am

        They’re concerned about the weather, too. The rainy season usually tails off toward the end of March. Even a few days extension into April increases the chance of a sunny SF opening day.

  18. alleykat69 said, on February 2, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    Gotta love that Dad in the courtroom in the Larry “Sick Fuck Nasser trial.
    He gets up and asked the judge can you give me 5 min with him. Judge says no, Had about 1 min, Jude says no. Then he charged toward him, didn’t make it as he was tackled. But still 2 Flaps Up my man!!!

    • alleykat69 said, on February 2, 2018 at 1:56 pm

      How about 1 min judge..

    • Macdog said, on February 2, 2018 at 2:40 pm

      Margraves was held in a holding cell until court resumed Friday afternoon. (Judge) Cunningham said she could have given Margraves a $7,500 fine, prison time or both. But she said she wasn’t going to do that. She said she was a parent too and empathized with him.

  19. djloo27 said, on February 2, 2018 at 4:08 pm

    Manson actually went after the judge.
    I think he got pretty close…

  20. xoot said, on February 2, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    I once saw a huge man in a prison jump suit and chains stand in front of the bench to hear a judge take away his rights as a parent. Six bailiffs encircled the man, at a slight distance, watching him as the judge spoke. None of the bailiffs had his gun with him.

  21. Flavor said, on February 2, 2018 at 4:43 pm

  22. djloo27 said, on February 2, 2018 at 4:57 pm

    Geezers love to reminisce about what things used to cost. I’ll do it on occasion, too. Fellow NY morons get a kick out of my keen observation that a slice of pizza and the cost of a subway ride have seemingly risen in the same increments since the beginning of time…

  23. Flavor said, on February 2, 2018 at 5:15 pm

    • djloo27 said, on February 2, 2018 at 5:26 pm

      Great stuff back when newspapers were everything. Makes me a little sad.
      Surprised to see how much Speier played in ’87.
      Amazing that they actually list the wrestling match-ups…

      • James said, on February 2, 2018 at 6:32 pm

        Was at the game Speier hit his grand slam in 87.

      • Flavor said, on February 2, 2018 at 6:56 pm

        back in the late 90’s I had completely blocked out the fact that Speier had 2 stints with the Giants, totally forgot about the second one. So much so that I bet my A’s fan buddy $50 that it never happened. He went down to the library and pulled up a box score from some microfeesh or some shit and threw it in my face. I’ll never live that down nor understand why, to this day, I still can’t remember it…..

    • Macdog said, on February 2, 2018 at 5:39 pm

      This was the day after the Giants clinched the division in ’87.

    • wilcojoe said, on February 2, 2018 at 7:41 pm

      I think I spent 20 minutes looking at this newspaper clipping. Such great memories.

  24. Flavor said, on February 2, 2018 at 7:00 pm

  25. alleykat69 said, on February 2, 2018 at 7:02 pm

    What’s with the Giants are they trying to corner the market on Blanco’s?
    You have Gregor,Andres, maybe Benny Blanco from (Carlitos Way) how about Julio Franco Blanco ? He’s only like 55,I’m sure they could give him a ST invite to be a backup infielder…

  26. unca_chuck said, on February 2, 2018 at 7:08 pm

    Honky Tonk Man vs Hacksaw Jim Duggan? I was into wrestling for about an hour right about then.

    Speier was my first Giant rookie player that I really followed as a kid. I dug it when we got him back in ’87.

    Christ, he hit 11 home runs as a part time player. At the Stick. For fuck’s sake. We can’t find anyone now in the juiced ball era that can do that.

  27. Flavor said, on February 2, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    man, the garnish on these sandos is epic.

    • wilcojoe said, on February 2, 2018 at 7:38 pm

      My comment on this (I spoke of my fondess for potted meats) got 3 likes. That’s a personal record. Don’t ever underestimate the undying love of processed foods.

    • djloo27 said, on February 2, 2018 at 7:39 pm

      This shit was the real deal:

      • wilcojoe said, on February 2, 2018 at 7:43 pm

        I was never a big fan of the ham. The chicken was epic. I actually have a couple cans in the pantry. Lay that down on some white bread with a little mayo. That’s good eating!

      • snarkk said, on February 2, 2018 at 9:26 pm

        1/3 chopped mystery meat/fat, 1/3 salt and nitrites, 1/3 sawdust.
        Loved that stuff on white sandos, and on crackers ! …

  28. zumiee said, on February 2, 2018 at 8:14 pm

    Nick Young kind of looks like the lead-singer of King’s X, a great band.
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHP924MsjVK0dBcav9ttzTgm-M8n-9-MAj-Zk83b3pgeABNhzJVA

    • zumiee said, on February 2, 2018 at 8:16 pm

  29. djloo27 said, on February 2, 2018 at 8:15 pm

    Which happens first?
    -Bonds makes the HOF
    -Giants retire Bonds’ number (and WTF are they waiting for?)

    • zumiee said, on February 2, 2018 at 8:24 pm

      The Giants are hoping he somehow gets in the Hall, then they’ll retire the number.
      It may be 30 years before he gets in.

    • wilcojoe said, on February 2, 2018 at 8:25 pm

      It will be a bad look if he gets in before his number is retired. They need to get their shit together.

  30. wilcojoe said, on February 2, 2018 at 8:24 pm

    Vince Carter and I are the same age, He’s defending Steph Curry and Kevin Durant. I am talking about potted meat. It’s Friday night. Hmm.

    • James said, on February 2, 2018 at 9:20 pm

      Are they really called “potted meats”?

    • unca_chuck said, on February 2, 2018 at 9:43 pm

      I see skinks in your future . . .

  31. unca_chuck said, on February 2, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    Spreadable (urk) Spam? Yikes. The Dubs have 25 turnovers and are up by 9 in the 4th.


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