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My Dear Watson! Come on Down!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on February 17, 2018

I don’t follow relievers too much but everyone is saying this Tony Watson pick up is  jizz worthy so who am I not to saran wrap up my furniture? It’s weird because Baggs, usually so reliable, basically said there was no chance of this happening 2 days ago. And yet here T-Dub is. I wonder if this takes the wind out of the return sails of TFLR? I guess you can never have enough reliable BP arms.

I’m thinking this is worth at least 2 wins so that should bump PECOTA and everyone else up to my prediction of 88 wins.

88. That was always a good lightning rod number for me and Twin to battle around….

And for no particular reason other than this picture is rad….

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  1. Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 7:02 am

  2. Macdog said, on February 17, 2018 at 8:31 am

    Yep, it’s safe to say Baggs was blindsided by this one.

  3. dirtnrocksnomo said, on February 17, 2018 at 8:45 am

    You think Sabean let Booby sit in on the last meeting before signing our beloved T-Dub so he didn’t feel left out?

    • Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:21 am

      Evans is waiting patiently in the woodshed (where he belongs)

      • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on February 17, 2018 at 12:23 pm

        What moves did Evans make, that at the time, you were critical of?
        I can only think of one, a move he didn’t make in July, 2016. When the bullpen started to falter and they desperately needed a lefty, he didn’t call up Ty Blach.
        Others might criticize him for the LF situation at the beginning of last season. IMO the problem was they had TOO MANY LFs, and no CF.
        If Evans had a lot of input on the draft, that’s legit criticism. The free agent signings and trades were solid, injuries notwithstanding.

  4. willedav said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:04 am

    Watson had rough beginning of 2017 with Pirates but was much better in LA:

    WHIP in Pitt 1.52 1.05 in LA
    Hits allowed per 9 11.0 Pitt 6.8 LA
    Ks rose from 6.8 per 9 to 8.0
    Gave up 7 HRs in 46 innings Pit/2 in 20 for LA

    Guess we better hope Giants get the LA guy! Only 20 innings in 24 appearances for LA, so wonder if he mostly be used as loogy/ala J Lopez…

    • James said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:09 am

      Fastball velocity in 2017 of 94, which is the same as 2016. Not as good as his peak years, but it supports the SF bet that he’s not declining just yet.

    • Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:21 am

      he should be used exclusively as a LOOGY

  5. willedav said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:10 am

    Obviously big improvement over the 2 Oh Nos and allows team to slow play FLR.

    @AKat–in the mlbtr story one of the bloggers said all Giants need to do now is trade Strick for Keon Broxton.

    Who is Giants opening day CF?

    • Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:22 am

      there’s no way in hell we get Brox for Strick

    • alleykat69 said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:30 am

      Hey I’m up for that deal Willied,
      Can’t believe the G’s went after Jackson to begin with who can’t play center in this park!
      Broxton has all the tools (speed, power, arm)he just needs more time in the bigs , it’s only his 3rd full season coming up, yeah the Obp,avg ,K’s are not good but neither was Bobby Bonds back in his early years.This kid reminds me of him, yeah it could be a stretch, but I would rather see him out their in CF then the combo of Jackson/Blanco..

  6. xoot said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:11 am

    This arcane CBT stuff reminds me of the early days of the cap in the NFL, when bean counters did nothing but manipulate cap “space.” Since those early days, the nfl cap has become less newsworthy. It’s just a fact of the sport now. But I think nfl teams always have been able to obtain cap space simply by cutting players. (Guaranteed money is still the exception in nfl, right?) These off-season mlb CBT machinations are cap dances, but they’re really clumsy cap dances because of the guaranteed salaries involved. Good thing the CBT is supposed to vanish after 2021.

    If the mlb union had any juice it’d force the owners to implement a salary floor. But it has no juice. In fact, speaking of juice, I think the union’s greatest achievment (since surviving the 1994 strike) was it’s success in colluding with the owners to delay imposing real penalties for PED use until the 2006 season.

    The mlb owners are completely in control. The union, in every signifcant way, just tags along. Fans have no choice but to sit back and see where the owners want to take the game.

    • zumiee said, on February 17, 2018 at 10:37 am

      Yeah, I remember the Niners being masters of cap space manipulation in those days.

  7. zumiee said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:46 am

    “Who is Giants opening day CF?”

    I guessing it will be Jackson vs. Kershaw.

    • zumiee said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:47 am

      Probably Jackson batting leadoff. An outside chance of Cutch batting leadoff.

  8. alleykat69 said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:46 am

    It was elementary but Watson is a real good sign. A lefty that can actually throws strikes( cue the double O’s who can’t) and could be used as a setup man for Melancon/Dyson are just the Javier role of lefty specialist.Also they needed him just for the uncertainty of Will “Men in Black” Smith return time..
    Another plus on Watson,
    He dominated against the NL West last year,holding the Bums to a .150 avg,same good stuff against D/backs/Rocks/Pads ironically the Giants hit .309 against him, well that’s ok he’s a Giant now so they can’t light him up now..

  9. zumiee said, on February 17, 2018 at 10:22 am

    It turns out Rizzo went to the high school in Florida where the shootings happened. He spoke at a vigil.
    What an ongoing national nightmare.

  10. zumiee said, on February 17, 2018 at 11:42 am

    The reason pitchers such as Osich and Okert struggle to transition to the big leagues is because a lot of hitters in the minors get fooled more easily and chase outside the strikezone. In the big leagues you have to have better control or you have a lot of 2-0 and 3-1 counts, which obviously favor the hitters.

  11. snarkk said, on February 17, 2018 at 11:54 am

    OK, offseason needs?

    The Pen lefties stink:Watson is better on paper. Check. That other lefty is healthy on paper. Half check.
    Fix third base. Checks, 5 years worth.
    Get a hitting outfielder. Cutch, check.
    Get a centerfielder. Uh, half check.
    Get another outfielder. Pence to left — check is in the mail
    Bench improvement. Blanco, Slater, Duggar, Panda — two bounced checks and two in the mail…

    • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on February 17, 2018 at 12:30 pm

      The most pressing need is for hitters to adjust their launch angles. That’s the first and likely the last time I’ll use that term.

      • alleykat69 said, on February 17, 2018 at 1:24 pm

        I think launch angles is most effective in bars.

      • snarkk said, on February 17, 2018 at 1:44 pm

        If you’ve got a Skink on, does launch angle really matter?…

  12. snarkk said, on February 17, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    Looks like I’m in Phoenix for a few days the second week of March. Anybody down there at that time?…

  13. Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 1:23 pm

    he continues to peddle this shit. I don’t get this at all (him selling or anyone that’s actually interested in buying)

    • alleykat69 said, on February 17, 2018 at 1:27 pm

      What about a discount on Balco paraphernalia??

      • snarkk said, on February 17, 2018 at 1:41 pm

        My right knee has something uncool going on. Maybe there’s a deal on a big tube of The Cream…

  14. gianthead said, on February 17, 2018 at 1:39 pm

    Adding Watson is a smart play…

  15. Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 1:53 pm

    that pic of Barry is tripping me out. It’s obviously a pic of his face today but that body looks photoshopped to me. Last time I saw him he was super skinny, biking all over the place and shit.

  16. pawliekokonuts said, on February 17, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    He looks stoned.

  17. pawliekokonuts said, on February 17, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    Who or what is TFLR? Or FLR? Huh?

    • snarkk said, on February 17, 2018 at 3:12 pm

      BF’s pet name for Will Smith. Use your imagination for the words before Lefty Reliever…

      • djloo27 said, on February 17, 2018 at 5:44 pm

        There was also some support for “The Fresh Wince”…

  18. Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    you know, that guy whose name I can never remember, that fucking lefty reliever….what’s his name? Oh, Snarkk covered it already, thanks

  19. wilcojoe said, on February 17, 2018 at 3:55 pm

    In Lindy’s Baseball preview magazine they have a feature for every team called “Building Block”, an up and coming player defined as having two or fewer ML seasons. Examples include Bregman of the Astros, Judge of the Yankees and Bellinger of the Dodgers. They list at least one for every team and a couple such as the Yankees (Judge and Sanchez) have two. Interestingly the Giants are the only club without one. Not sure if that was a printing error or they just couldn’t come up with one.

    • snarkk said, on February 17, 2018 at 4:03 pm

      I can’t think of one Giant player that fits that description. I’d like to see if Shaw can be one. I have a feeling this Duggar kid and probably Beede are overhyped. Giants starting squad is the oldest in the MLB, and getting older, fast… http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/rosters/_/sort/average_age/order/true

      • zumiee said, on February 17, 2018 at 4:18 pm

        I saw a reminder recently that the Giants already have $120 million in payroll committed for the 2020 season, the most of any team. It would be great to have low-cost young talented players coming up to fill some spots in the next few years. Hopefully Ramos pans out as an impact player.

  20. Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 5:47 pm

    that State Farm commercial with those 3 Houston Rockets and the State Farm rep in it….it’s very funny, laced with gold.

  21. djloo27 said, on February 17, 2018 at 5:59 pm

    Looks like Vegas has the Giants over/under number at 81.5.
    Gift…

    • Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 6:03 pm

      I’m gonna be in Reno next week and if that number stays where it is I will break another one of my rules of not betting on futures anymore

  22. Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 6:02 pm

    uh, I know this dude is left handed but I would break that rule in order to pick him up. Not sure if he can play CF but I want those bombs….

    • wilcojoe said, on February 17, 2018 at 6:15 pm

      He would immedialtey become the second best OF behind Cutch. Why the hell not?

      • Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 6:16 pm

        WTF is wrong with the Rays? In what world do you GO GET Cron so you can get rid of Dickerson?

      • wilcojoe said, on February 17, 2018 at 6:25 pm

        This is a total head scratcher. The Giants should have the second chance (after Detroit) to sign him. Unless something else is going on with him that we don’t know, how do you not pick him up?

      • sandog said, on February 17, 2018 at 7:21 pm

        You guys probably saw this too by now, but it sounds like they already have a deal in place to send him to the Twins.

      • Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 7:39 pm

        Not Dickerson, they traded The Odoriferous One to the Twins.

      • sandog said, on February 17, 2018 at 8:48 pm

        He’s got to be getting traded somewhere.
        They’ve got this thing that is fucking golden. They’re not going to just give it up for fucking nothing.

  23. wilcojoe said, on February 17, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    Dickerson is on a year contract in 2018 for $5.95million. So it’s not a money issue. There has to be a health or personal issue.

  24. wilcojoe said, on February 17, 2018 at 6:37 pm

    I love Hunter Pence, he’s the only non Will Clark jersey I have ever owned, but I think he is done. I hope I am wrong but I think the only value he adds is in the clubhouse. Problem is they have few young prospects for him to mentor, so even his intangible presence if quite useless.

  25. sandog said, on February 17, 2018 at 6:54 pm

    My guess is that Loo thinks that under 81.5 is easy money and Flav plans to be bet the over.
    Do I have that right?
    I’d bet the over, but I’d keep the wager on the low side….

    • Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 7:37 pm

      the over is a lock, the only thing I’m worried about is that number rising before i get there Wed

  26. Macdog said, on February 17, 2018 at 7:22 pm

    Rays also traded Jake Odorizzi to the Twinkies for shortstop prospect Jermaine Palacios,

  27. Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    I’m not gonna bet the O/U on the Giants 2018 wins. That’s a long time to tie up $$$ and I can honestly say I have never cashed a future bet (for The Derby or sports). But it’s fun to talk about. My self imposed ban on betting sports futures will remain in tact (I think)

  28. djloo27 said, on February 17, 2018 at 8:01 pm

    I kinda like futures bets and even cashed a couple a few years back. They can keep you interested for awhile without having to wrack your brains betting day in and day out. I wouldn’t bet against the Giants cause I like to keep it pure with them, but I don’t see an 18 game improvement with this crew. They’re still mostly old, tired honkies and the PS is dreadful. My O/U on Giants who hit 20+ homers is .5.

    • xoot said, on February 17, 2018 at 8:18 pm

      Every move they’ve made improved the team. We’re now griping about the bench. Rebound from Madbum and Cueto and wtfk. 90 wins is not unreasonable

    • Flavor said, on February 17, 2018 at 8:20 pm

      the only thing that would keep me from guaranteeing 88 is that you can’t predict injuries and this team could get dwarfed by them. And there will be no Plan B when that happens.

      • djloo27 said, on February 17, 2018 at 8:44 pm

        Nothing wrong with a little optimism. I just don’t share it. I can’t forget how God-awful they’ve been for a year and a half. The roster may be improved but it is still overloaded with question marks and basically sucks.

      • sandog said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:05 pm

        A horse can get injured too, can’t it? That doesn’t stop you. C’mon, your Big Flavor and you think its a lock.
        Throw $5,000 on the orange and black—-it will supercharge the season for all of us!

      • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on February 18, 2018 at 12:11 am

        It might not be a bad idea to take $5000 out of the stock market and place a futures bet, but in principle, BF is right. Not the over/under for the Giants though, or the short 5 to 8 odds of the Warriors winning the title.
        On paper, I’d bet the under on both LA teams, over on the Rockies, Mets, and Nationals. Put my real money in T-Bills.

  29. Macdog said, on February 17, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    The over/under for Rays and Marlins combined might be 81.5.

  30. Macdog said, on February 17, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    The Padres and free-agent first baseman Eric Hosmer have agreed to an eight-year deal, a source told MLB.com’s Jon Paul Morosi Saturday night. Hosmer can opt out of the contract after five years. The club has not confirmed the deal.

    • sandog said, on February 17, 2018 at 8:45 pm

      Weird, wild, stuff. (Johnny Carson voice)

  31. sandog said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    I agree the State Farm commercial is awesome on about 7 different levels. Love surly James Harden and Trevor Ariza getting into it, but favorite part is Chris Paul nailing the “you cool—if you like it…..” line.

    Gotta confess I’ve always thought “I Want It That Way” was a great tune. Only other boy band (not counting The Beatles*) track that comes close for me is “Larger Than Life” which I remember loving when we played the latest “Now that is what I call music” CD at my son’s 8th? birthday party.

    * a point and wink to Chuck on that one. Great line. Don’t agree, but great line nonetheless.

    • James said, on February 17, 2018 at 9:25 pm

      I unsuccessfully tried to find evidence of some choreographed dance moves. There is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHAaMHp2tts

      • xoot said, on February 17, 2018 at 10:25 pm

        The temptations sure weren’t no boy band

      • James said, on February 17, 2018 at 10:52 pm

        Nor were they from Liverpool.

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