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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on February 28, 2018

Another pic this am from KNBR’s Brian Murphy. I’ve been enjoying their player interviews in the morning on my way into work. These guys, predictably, are pretty confident going into 2018.

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Could you reasonably argue that our hitters, SP’s and BP are all better than last year? I think you could…..

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  1. Flavor said, on February 28, 2018 at 6:09 am

    I know this is all old and Xoot did a great job of repeatedly updating us on his case, but I found some of the lines in this article to be pretty good:
    http://www.bemidjipioneer.com/news/4367455-minnesota-man-who-shot-federal-helicopter-sentenced-60-months

  2. unca_chuck said, on February 28, 2018 at 7:28 am

    Better than 98 losses? I sure hope so. The bar isn’t low, it’s on the ground. They’d have to all fall off the table to do worse than that.

  3. willedav said, on February 28, 2018 at 8:15 am

    Belt with 3 hits, Slater a HR yesterday. I thought Slater best looking player out of the young OFs SF brought up last year and then he got hurt and never returned. Didn’t have lot of pop but put up decent numbers.
    Destined for Sac I guess but available if/when someone who does stay up face plants. Like to see Shaw get some run at 1b too, as opposed to Sandoval.

    Hope SF gives decent shot as 2b/3b backup to the other Blanco, Andres whom Phils DFA’d. He had a good year then signed a $3 mil contract and fell apart last season.

  4. dirtnrocksnomo said, on February 28, 2018 at 9:04 am

    On paper they’re better for the most part. Cain retiring is inherent improvement in the rotation but I’m not sure they’re prepared to fill the gap after Bum, Cueot, Smarj. Starting pitching is the biggest concern in my mind but between (Panik, Belt, Shaw, Gomez) the club is well positioned to pick up a starter at the deadline.

    Agree on the strong KNBR interviews. Good one today with Howard Bryant discussing the state of the game, salaries and strength (or lack-thereof) of the MLBPA. There were some interesting comments about the last 25 years of relative peace between the owners and players and whether or not players are fat and happy or will challenge ownership over the (alleged) salary collusion, etc.

  5. snarkk said, on February 28, 2018 at 9:05 am

    Hitting has to be better than last year. Starters, tbd. The last two spots are double question marks. Infield is solid. Outfield certainly better, gotta assume Cutch and Pence go on the DL at least once — Pence I assume will be hurt off and on all year…

  6. alleykat69 said, on February 28, 2018 at 10:44 am

    Pence will go on the DL once just from a coffee overdose..

  7. unca_chuck said, on February 28, 2018 at 10:57 am

    Or instagram overload.

  8. YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on February 28, 2018 at 11:36 am

    Absolutely you can make the case this team is better in every area, defense too.
    The only uncertainty is the starting pitching. It’s whole new game now, it’ll be harder for them to adjust. Melancon and Guerrin notwithstanding, the bullpen is already woke. (am I using that word correctly?)

  9. Flavor said, on February 28, 2018 at 12:04 pm

    The KNBR morning interview I caught today was the one with Wotus. Not as bad as I thought. He disclosed that he’d been a 3rd base coach for 7 seasons in the minors, seemed to know what he was talking about when they quizzed him about the job. Whatever, he’ll probably be fine.

    • xoot said, on February 28, 2018 at 12:40 pm

      I heard most of that interview wotus sounded smart to me. I really enjoyed how patiently he responded to questions about sign stealing, how they progress through St knowing some guys are likely to get DFA d or traded so they don’t want to teach them the regular season system , etc

    • snarkk said, on February 28, 2018 at 1:04 pm

      Wonder how much Wotus makes? Any one have a clue? When Bochy leaves, is Meulens really going to be the manager? …

  10. blade3colorado said, on February 28, 2018 at 12:11 pm

    Regarding the comments, “Better in every area” and “Could you reasonably argue that our hitters, SP’s and BP are all better than last year? I think you could . . .”

    Regarding the former statement (i.e., Yogi’s comment), absolutely not . . . see our bench. Regarding Craig’s statement, yes, you can make a fairly good argument that we have improved in those specific areas he mentioned.

    However, you can also make a valid argument that all or most of our existing older players will regress due to age. Belt, Pence, Crawford, Posey, Cueto, Smarg, and Melanoma are over 30 or will turn 30 during the season (Belt). Pence is obvious. I see him definitely getting worse, not better. For the others, it’s wait and see. Similarly, Madbum’s injury, as well as mileage on his arm, is someone I am going to watch carefully.

    The new additions? Again, Longo and Cutch had good seasons last year, but they definitely did not mirror their peak years. I think they’ll be okay, but I also see further regression from last season.

    Our bullpen, starting pitching, bench, and outfield defense is all suspect in my opinion. I don’t see 98 losses, but I don’t see any Wild Cards either, much less a Division championship. A tough April schedule will add to the pressure. By late May, I think we will all know what type of talent and character this team has. Hopefully, Yogi and Craig are right.

    • snarkk said, on February 28, 2018 at 1:08 pm

      A tough tough April means around .500 would be a good result for it. Smardgiexxx needs to figure out how to not give up 30 HRs. Shoot for low 20s, stop throwing meatball 95 mph fastballs down Main Street when ahead in the count…

      • blade3colorado said, on February 28, 2018 at 1:31 pm

        Absolutely! A .500 April would be outstanding.

    • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on February 28, 2018 at 2:50 pm

      McCutchen in RF, Jackson/Duggar CF, moving Pence to LF. The outfield defense is clearly better. Longoria is an upgrade at third, both ways. The bench will likely be better. Think they’ve got to go with one UT to back up 2B, SS, and 3B. Keep Shaw, drop Panda.
      Blach or whomever gets the fifth spot will be an upgrade. Watson is an upgrade. Things are looking good.
      Giants, First In February!

  11. dirtnrocksnomo said, on February 28, 2018 at 3:06 pm

    Sandoval is a lock imo. The only real competition this spring is in the OF between Blanco/Duggar/Hernandez/Slater/Mac/Parker (who sucks).

    There is pretty much zero chance that Shaw breaks camp with the club. They want to hold off on the arb clock and also get him at-bats in Sac so they can jock him for a trade later in the season if they’re contending. I like Gomez for a utility role but its close to the same zero probability for him too unless he just tears up the spring from start to finish.

  12. unca_chuck said, on February 28, 2018 at 3:07 pm

    I’ll say it again, the pen is the big ???.

    Blade, I don’t think all the vets go south. Pence? Definitely. He may get released before the break. Posey should be fine for whatever he is now. The occasional power guy. I think Crawfish has a very good year after his tragedy-filled 2017 season. Belt for all his supposed failings led the team in dingers despite missing the last 6 weeks. He’ll have some help around him at least. Panik should be fine as well. The new guys Jackson, McCutch, and Longo are vastly better than Span, and the black holes at 3rd and left.

    Bummie and Cueto are solid to build around. Smarglebargle just needs to avoid the dingers and he may impress. Yeah, a bit questionable but for the most part I think they’ll be fine. 4/5? Stratton looks good anyway.

    The pen is still a big unknown at this point. We got some better guys, but the pen was a disaster last year.

    • blade3colorado said, on February 28, 2018 at 4:02 pm

      “Blade, I don’t think all the vets go south.” I didn’t say that. I said, “However, you can also make a valid argument that all or most of our existing older players will regress due to age.”

      We agree about Pence. I think Crawford and Posey will noticeably slow down, due to the difficulty of their respective positions, shortstop and catcher. Cueto was injured off and on last season, but his “stuff” hasn’t diminished, so yeah, he will probably reassert himself. Smarg is Smarg – he should be a world class pitcher, but for whatever reason, isn’t. Regardless, his stuff hasn’t changed either, so he’ll be fine too. Melanoma, had a 4.50 ERA and 1.43 WHIP in just 30 innings last season before going on the DL and having major surgery on his pronator muscle. He doesn’t have a fastball like other elite closers and in my opinion, he’ll regress as well. Belt will probably be fine as long as he doesn’t get injured/concussed.

      By the by, Dirt made an excellent point the other day about Belt being dealt at or after the All Star break, if he is having an excellent season and the Giants are out of the running for a playoff spot . . . Extend this sentiment to just about all the veterans as well. If the Giants don’t make hay by the All Star break, I’m almost certain that this will be the “last hurrah” for a few other Gmen as well.

      • djloo27 said, on February 28, 2018 at 5:53 pm

        I have never seen one of my teams torn down like the NY Rangers have been…

  13. dirtnrocksnomo said, on February 28, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    Giants up 10-3 heading into the 9th against the Brew Crew. Mac and Parker(who sucks) each with a bomb to continue their epic struggle of who will get DFA first.

    • zumiee said, on February 28, 2018 at 3:33 pm

      Jensen with another HR!

  14. dirtnrocksnomo said, on February 28, 2018 at 3:41 pm

    5 errors and 7 runs later it is now 10-10. lulz

    • Macdog said, on February 28, 2018 at 3:54 pm

      A late TD by the Brewers, they should’ve gone for 2.

  15. unca_chuck said, on February 28, 2018 at 5:03 pm

    That ain’t the Giants style, Blade. They don’t dump more than one at a time. Fricking Rowan was 1.5 years past his shelf life. As was Ray Ray. It took forever to dump those guys.

    • Flavor said, on February 28, 2018 at 6:24 pm

      i don’t know why they would *dump* anyone. If they are just treading water, I guess it’s conceivable that they could move Longo, ‘Cutch, Belt, etc…but most of these vets have more than a couple years left on their deals. Not too many of those guys at the end of their careers getting moved at the break….certainly not for anything good.

    • unca_chuck said, on February 28, 2018 at 9:55 pm

      Yeah we’ve been over this before. Panik, Crawford, and Bumie are about the only guys on the team that a) are tradeable, b) have some value, c) just might get something. The rest are either too old or their contracts are poison.

  16. xoot said, on February 28, 2018 at 8:13 pm

    So far Baggarly’s ST stuff on the Athletic is pretty good, interesting anyway. This sentence from the piece he posted this evening is likely to raise the most ruckus: “There are little hints everywhere that Blanco will be on the team if he’s healthy at the end of spring, and Steven Duggar would go to Triple-A for more seasoning.”

    • willedav said, on February 28, 2018 at 8:26 pm

      If it’s at expense of Gorks, I’m in. Blanco has at least played CF at ATT and knows the drill. Plus he can be late game D fill in for Pence too. Pence AJax Cutch Blanco Slater.

      • unca_chuck said, on February 28, 2018 at 9:52 pm

        Bunt, Goddamnit!!!

        Yeah, I’d rather have Blanco than Gorkys. Like picking between a root canal and a crown, tho.

      • unca_chuck said, on February 28, 2018 at 9:56 pm

        But I’d rather have Duggar than Blanco.

      • xoot said, on February 28, 2018 at 10:08 pm

        If we’re lucky AJax will be a better Blanco. Slater? I doubt it. CF is still unsettled, but both Jackson and Blanco are better than Gorkys, I think.


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