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SF Cooling Off Hotlanta

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 6, 2018

This Hanson guy is bringing a nice, *no-Honky* look to the team right now. Ron Hansen is my favorite all time jockey, may he rest in peace.

Atlanta doesn’t know what’s fucking hit them this weekend. It’s refreshing to see that we can beat a young, athletic team. And we are beating them to a pulp. I’m not really sure how we’re doing this actually.

Next guy up? Suarez? Sure, why not. Hides the ball well, he competes. Another guy who fits into the resilient mold that you’re required to have if you want to play with these guys.

Sweep ’em, why not?

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  1. Lurker John said, on May 6, 2018 at 1:40 pm

    W’s all but choke away the lead as Green continues to bitch at the officials.

  2. Lurker John said, on May 6, 2018 at 1:41 pm

    Fucking strickland

  3. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 1:43 pm

    SHit. Thought this would be over by now.

  4. Macdog said, on May 6, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    Get him the fuck out of there.

  5. Lurker John said, on May 6, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    He’s in full choke mode now.

  6. Macdog said, on May 6, 2018 at 1:49 pm


  7. willedav said, on May 6, 2018 at 1:49 pm

    Strick escapes with save, yeow almost blew the W for Suarez.

  8. zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 1:50 pm

    The rookie was over-aggressive.

  9. Lurker John said, on May 6, 2018 at 1:50 pm

    Something is going to have to be done about the closer role. I’ve heard nothing about Melancon in weeks. Is he done? Is he supposed to come back soon, what? Over the long haul, Strickland is just a choker at heart.

    • willedav said, on May 6, 2018 at 2:17 pm

      :LJ schulman says he is throwing, 20 pitches off the mound and walked away smiling. 25th he is eligible.
      Hope for his sake he can get back to doing what he likes to do as a baseball player.

  10. Flavor said, on May 6, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    Strickland (who sucks) is all we have. Unless you want to see Dyson back in that role and I don’t want to see that.

    • Lurker John said, on May 6, 2018 at 1:55 pm

      No, but is Melancon really finished or still rehabbing?

  11. Flavor said, on May 6, 2018 at 1:53 pm

    Still, we swept a team that, had they swept US, wouldn’t have surprised me in the least.

  12. snarkk said, on May 6, 2018 at 2:08 pm

    Melancon is supposed to be back end of May, per Bochy on his radio show a few days ago.
    He might as well come back and see what happens.
    The guy is pulling down $64 million over 4, so he needs to do something, even if it is getting clobbered. Even that will add intelligence to the Pen plan for rest of season.
    This Strick as closer is the Beard redux, but the Beard didn’t give up gopher balls like Musclehead…

    • Lurker John said, on May 6, 2018 at 2:15 pm

      Absolutely. If he’s healthy, put him in there and move Strick back to the 7th or 8th, where he belongs. Great series win for the Giants, dismantling a hot team in their park.

      • zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 2:19 pm

  13. Macdog said, on May 6, 2018 at 2:13 pm

    Rough 9th for Philly closer Neris: Single, walk, HBP, bases-loaded walk, game-winning single.

  14. willedav said, on May 6, 2018 at 2:14 pm

    I like Davis but he’s gotten away from his game shooting outside shots. If green is going to push you to outside pass the ball and set up on block.
    Durant really in the flow today, unstoppable.

  15. Lurker John said, on May 6, 2018 at 2:22 pm

    Durant is just devastating when shooting over smaller defenders, and most are smaller. Even when Davis has a hand in his face he buries a 24 footer.

  16. Lurker John said, on May 6, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    Jordan averaged 33.5 points per game in the playoffs for his career. That’s just a mind-blowing number. It’s not like he just played in a few playoff games.

  17. Flavor said, on May 6, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    just as it took me a while to admit Brady had a better career than Montana I am now finally able to admit that LeBron is better than Jordan.

    • willedav said, on May 6, 2018 at 3:17 pm

      mmm tough one. different era. Jordan had to go through Celts and then Pistons roughhouse D. Not so sure LeBron could have survived that.

  18. zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 2:52 pm

    Hosmer 2-run jack vs. Dodgers.

  19. zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 3:05 pm

    Fun facts:
    Slater is hitting .400 for Sac.
    Pence is at .192.

  20. James said, on May 6, 2018 at 3:07 pm

    I had to look it up:

    Wilson 0.5 HRs per 9
    Strickland 0.6 HRs per 9

    Once you’ve made a general impression as a player, it’s difficult to shake it, not matter what actually happens on the field. It goes both ways. I’m sure there are some who are still secretly convinced that Joe Panik’s cool looking swing and demeanor will turn him into something more than an ok hitter. Fans feel good about having Joe up there when it “really counts,” even though there’s no objective reason for it. Strickland acts like an arrogant jerk, yet he just never *seems* to dominate an inning the way you’d expect a macho badass closer to do. Nevertheless, he’s been pretty effective through nearly a quarter of the season.

    • Lurker John said, on May 6, 2018 at 3:21 pm

      Yes, he’s just bad for the collective cardiovascular health of Giants’ fans.

    • chipower9 said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:05 pm

      No surprise on the Weezy- Strick similarities on HRs. I was thinking during the 9th how much Strickland reminds me of Wilson.

  21. Lurker John said, on May 6, 2018 at 3:19 pm

    Good piece about the current trends in Major League Baseball:


    • zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 3:29 pm

      ““It seems like every night this season, you get a notification on your phone that somebody is taking a no-hitter into the sixth inning,” one staffer said at the ballpark here Saturday.”

      So true.
      It’s the overall decline in balls hit in the field of play.

  22. gianthead said, on May 6, 2018 at 3:21 pm

    Atlanta exposed but have some nice young talent. Would like them to push the Nats…

  23. chipower9 said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:02 pm

    I believe it was it Jackie Gleason who said “How SWEEP it is!”

    And happy 87th to the Say Hey Kid.

    Giants are playing good, sound baseball (except when Hanson kicks it around the yard).

    Don’t get me wrong…I like Hanson…would just like to see him tighten-up the D.

    Been out running around all day. Great segment on KNBR this morning between Marty and Bruce Jenkins, recounting memories of Mays. Just awesome. Mays only dropped a couple of balls in his entire career. Story goes that he would give away his glove every time he made an error. I could have listened to those two for hours…

  24. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:06 pm

    Wow. Strick giveth, Strick taketh away. Ugly but it worked.

  25. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:10 pm

    If Montana had the rules that today’s payers have, Joe has a couple more rings.

    Shit 90% of the rules for touching QBs are because of Petticoat Tom. Brady has lost too many Super Bowls for me to consider him better than Montana.

    • blade3colorado said, on May 6, 2018 at 6:36 pm

      Agree Chuck. Montana has it over Brady seven ways from Sunday.

  26. zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:15 pm

    Mr. Hand is trying to close out the Dodgers again.

    • willedav said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:22 pm

      and did! after the no no Pads take 2 of 3.

      • zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:23 pm

        Yeah, give the Pads credit for coming back from getting embarrassed on Friday.

    • zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:22 pm

      And he does.

  27. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:18 pm

    Same with Bron Bron. Hand checking is called all the time now and wasn’t back 20 years ago. Defense was much tougher. And like Willie said, Bron Bron isn’t dealing with Jabbar, Motumbo, Ewing, and the like.

    Beyond that, James’ whine game would have gotten him hammered relentlessly by guys like Dumars, Carwright, and Laimbeer. That would have been fun to see though.

    Great player, no doubt, but like Brady he often doesn’t overcome adversity. Brady has had a lot of breaks go his way to get a couple of those championships.

  28. gianthead said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    This one for Chia Blade and Flav…Sinclair Broadcasting Group…what a Great American Company!!! 😗 Loo, you with me???

    In regard to the crumbling newspaper industry in many parts of the country, when I worked in Congress in the late 90s my boss and I tried to change the law in a pure free market solution in response to what we knew would happen with the Internet likely changing the newspaper landscape to allow a local radio or tv station buy a local newspaper or vice versa a local newspaper to buy a local radio or tv station.

    The ability to do so would likely have saved dozens upon dozens of newspapers (probably at least 50 papers have closed in the last 20 years and many others have had massive downsizing). The effeciencies of combining news staff operations along with advertising depts, billing, accounting, etc. would have been a boom and the ability to save local newspapers would without question be better for our democracy.

    After we could not get Congress to act, we failed to get the FCC to act during the Clinton Administration. The #1 hassle we had with Democrats is that they did not want to change the law so they could continue to block Rupert Murdoch from buying the Washington Times and having a real healthy conservative counterpart to the Post because Fox owns the local Fox tv affiliate. The one surprise in the last 20 years in the changing media landscape is that local tv news has remained very strong and a consistent money maker for those broadcasters.

    So because of that political partisanship, we have now had to suffer a devastating situation of newspaper closures and maybe a situation where the entire state of Colorado may no longer have a major local newspaper. I guess all those pot-heads do not read much…

    • Flavor said, on May 6, 2018 at 5:03 pm

      i just figured newspapers are going out of business because, you know, nobody buys newspapers anymore. Their sales have been plummeting, correct? I read everything online.

    • djloo27 said, on May 6, 2018 at 6:03 pm

      Since I was a little boy, I always loved the smell of gasoline.
      My favorite was Flying A – which became Getty.
      My dad would only come here if he was desperate for Dino dollars…

    • xoot said, on May 6, 2018 at 6:29 pm

      Gasoline smells great, crude oil doesn’t. My first commercial litigation trial concerned heated oil pipelines in Calif. There’s one that runs north from Bakersfield all the way to the city of Martinez (near SF, where Dimaggio was born), there’s one that runs west from Bakersfield over the mountains to a tanker hook up on the coast, and there’s one that runs from Bakersfield down to a refinery in LA. That one’s the oldest and it tends to break more than the other two. Once it flooded the surface streets of LA. Cars slid and spun and crashed into each other like they’d just sped onto smooth ice.

  29. zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    Giants are up 4 games on the Dodgers now.

    • zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:25 pm

      Dodgers 8 games behind the D-Backs.

  30. willedav said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:34 pm

    halftime game 3 Pierce asked which team would make more 3s. Answer was NO, 13-11 as GS shooters all went cold.
    today, Igs and Green with 2 each made as many as NO entire team. Durant dominated everyone; he;s so smooth.
    Now Gentry who won one in Oaktown has to find way to avoid elimination there Tuesday He joked the other day it was lot more fun being over there, on Warriors bench..

    • willedav said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:37 pm

      won “title” in Oaktown.

  31. gianthead said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:37 pm

    My take Montana vs. Brady and Michael vs. LeBron.

    Brady has now had a better career than Joe but Joe still the greatest QB in the history of the game. LeBron will I believe have the the better career than Michael but Jordan still the greatest. No one deadlier ever in the playoffs than Jordon…6-0 similar to Joe’s 4-0…

    • gianthead said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:40 pm

      If Lebron was as good as Michael I just dont see him losing so many championships…Warriors have aboslutley dominated all 3 series. We should have won the second one 4-1 with Draymond. Michael would never have let that happen…

  32. zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 4:55 pm

    I don’t accept the premise that LeBron is competing with Jordan for best of all time.
    I’d rather have Magic or Bird than those two.
    And if you want to include post guys, there’s some of those I’d prefer.

  33. zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    Scott Andes, with Dodger woes:
    “The 2018 Dodgers season has been an unmitigated disaster. The trainwreck never left the station, derailing during spring training. All of the passengers departed and the train will not be back until next season. The Dodgers have already lost Corey Seager for the entire season due to Tommy John surgery. Justin Turner has not returned from his fractured wrist he suffered during spring training. Logan Forsythe is out with shoulder problems, and now half of the rotation is on the disabled list.
    Hyun-jin Ryu won’t return until after the all-star break after tearing his groin muscle. Rich Hill is still out with a cracked fingernail and the entire bullpen is filled with gas cans. The lineup is populated with utility players and has guys like Tim Locastro in it every day. Now Clayton Kershaw is joining the ranks of the walking wounded with biceps tendinitis. The Dodgers announced that Kershaw has hit the disabled list with the biceps injury. Brock Stewart has been recalled from Oklahoma City to replace his roster spot.”

    • djloo27 said, on May 6, 2018 at 5:55 pm

  34. Flavor said, on May 6, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    the angry tiger fan just quit college. I exchanged a few private tweets with him asking him about it and telling him to not get down on himself. Sounds like he was failing too many classes. School isn’t for everyone.

    • djloo27 said, on May 6, 2018 at 5:52 pm

      I’m sad to hear that. I wonder if the famous rant was indirectly responsible.
      Then again, leaving college can be a good thing, too.
      Nice of you to encourage him, Flavor…

      • Flavor said, on May 6, 2018 at 5:54 pm

        he’s an open book on twitter. He struggles with depression big time, I think that’s gotten in the way of him being able to succeed in school. He boozes a lot, too. Seems like a pretty conflicted kid, hope it works out for him. I just went and re-watched the rant from last year. It’s so good.

  35. mrsprtdude said, on May 6, 2018 at 6:05 pm

    I almost always keep my thoughts to baseball on the flap but you all just crazy to say Joe is better than Brady. I’m a Niner homer all the way, and my FAV Niner ever…but look at the talent each guy played with. It’s not even in the same vicinity. Brady had Moss for a few seasons. Montana had Rice for many. Craig vs the scrubs NE puts out every year. On defense the Niners had HOFers and NE has had nothing.
    Re Lebron…Michael was the best. Lebron is so close you can make the case he is better. Same discussion. Jordan played with maybe the best pure rebounder ever, and most of his career with a HOF in Pippin. Lebron has played with a lot of lesser players. It’s still Jordan but not by much.
    I’m a Boston guy (hate the Lakers) but to compare Bird / Magic to Lebron?? They BOTH played there entire careers almost with TWO OTHERS HOF’s on their teams.
    Jordan played 15 seasons. lets give him 2 more and pretend he didn’t quit for baseball.
    In his 15th season Lebron is STILL the best PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE. By the his 15th season MJ was a shell of his former self and struggling horribly on the Wizards. No one has been elite top 3 player in any sport for as long as James. And he’s still going strong..

    • zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 6:40 pm

      It’s not easy comparing eras, but I just think it was harder to win NBA championships in the ’80s.
      And I’ll put Magic’s Game 6 in the Finals vs. the Sixers, as a 20 year old, against anybody else’s sccomplishment.

      • djloo27 said, on May 6, 2018 at 7:30 pm

        It’s right there with Clyde’s performance in the “Willis Reed” game vs. Lakers in ’70.
        But Clyde’s was a Game 7. I know – East coast bias, right?

    • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on May 6, 2018 at 7:39 pm

      If you’re a diehard Niners fan it’s not crazy to say Joe was better than Brady. It’s not true IMO, but it can’t be proven false. Much harder to make a case for Mays over Ruth as the best baseball player ever.
      If I have the all time number one pick in basketball, the era in which we play to be determined afterwards, I’m taking LeBron over Michael. In fact, I’d be inclined to take a current player in every sport, figuring it would be easier to adjust backwards through time. Having said that, I’d take Kareem number one, figuring you can’t teach 7’1″ or block the sky hook. Shooters would be easier to find later in the draft, although Michael was much more than that.
      For football, not knowing which era we’re playing in, I might not even draft Joe as the first 49er QB. Steve Young might be more adaptable to playing in the first 50 years, although Joe would thrive under today’s rules. The other thing with QBs is the coach is critical to their success. There are only three QB’s in the argument, Brady, Montana, and Otto Graham. The three best head coaches in NFL history, Belichick, Walsh, and Paul Brown. Yeah I know…Lombardi can pound sand, he couldn’t win against those guys.

  36. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on May 6, 2018 at 6:43 pm

    I’m still kinda trippin’ that Mays first came up on May 24…..

  37. zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 6:46 pm

    Regarding Kershaw, bicep tendinitis is darn close to a shoulder issue.
    “Biceps tendonitis, also called bicipital tendonitis, is inflammation in the main tendon that attaches the top of the biceps muscle to the shoulder. The most common cause is overuse from certain types of work or sports activities.”

    We’ve always wondered if (and when) Kershaw’s herky-jerky motion would take a physical toll on him, and this could be related to that. He’s also had back issues the last couple of seasons.

    • xoot said, on May 6, 2018 at 6:53 pm

      He’s never before pitched so deep into the PS as he did last year.

      • zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 6:55 pm

        Good point.

  38. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 6:48 pm

    The Niner teams in ’81 and ’84 were no offensive juggernauts. Rice wasn’t there for either of those.

    As far as Bron Bron goes, he had a pretty good team in Miami. And he still lost a championship.

    I will say that Brady does make the guys around him better. Bron Bron not so much.

    Shit, Houston and Utah are putting on a clinic in missed shots.

  39. zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 6:53 pm

    “i just figured newspapers are going out of business because, you know, nobody buys newspapers anymore. Their sales have been plummeting, correct? I read everything online.”

    Well, I bought two newspapers today. Big Sunday editions loaded with glorious pulp paper and ink.
    But I’m just nostalgic that way. 🙂

    • unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 7:23 pm

      I get the sunday chron delivered to me. Still like to reead that Sunday morning

  40. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 7:07 pm

    If Utah would stop turning the ball over every other possession, they’d be in the lead.

  41. blade3colorado said, on May 6, 2018 at 7:10 pm

    Three Super Bowl losses and he’s the GOAT? Hilarious in my opinion. Yeah, Montana had Rice for much of his career, but in his first 2 Super Bowls, the Niners were NOT favored to win. In the first Cincy game, Joe’s offensive cast were all unknowns, so it doesn’t wash in my mind that he always had the best players on offense. In the Miami game, tell me one NFL expert who had the Niners winning that game??? If not zero, it was close, as Marino was the greatest thing to arrive to the NFL since the invention of sliced bread.

    Regarding eras – back then QBs could be hit . . . Today, you get flagged if you blow on them. Look at the game and season yard totals for QBs. Ridiculous. Back in the 80s, 3000 yards was the gold standard. Today, that would be a joke.

    Last, but not least, look at who Montana faced – Ken Anderson, John Elway, Dan Marino and Boomer Esiason. Umm, Brady lost against Nick freakin’ Foles, a backup.

    • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:02 pm

      No he didn’t, NE’s defense lost to Foles. Brady had it much tougher. That’s the way you compare QBs in championship games.
      Montana lost to the Bears defense a couple of times in NFC playoffs games, and was literally knocked out by the Giants.
      The Bengals had good defenses in the 80’s, the Dolphinhs and Broncos, not so much.

      • zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:09 pm

        But one of the points is that the top of the helmet to Montana’s chin that knocked him out was a legal hit in those days. It was a different game in those days. Today’s NFL is closer to flag football.

      • blade3colorado said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:21 pm

        To continue on Zum’s point . . . Defenders barely can breathe on quarterbacks now without committing a 15-yard penalty. Montana would have taken fewer big hits . . . and his numbers would have been better. Much better. Just look at the effect the rule changes had on Brady’s numbers:

        From 2001 to 2003 – Brady’s first three seasons as a starter — he posted passer ratings of 86.5, 85.7 and 85.9. Nothing special. Then, in 2004, the NFL made a point of emphasis to enforce the 5-yard bump-and-run rule more strictly – defenders could not touch receivers after five yards. As a result of this one change, Brady’s passer rating jumped to 92.6. The rest of the league’s passing stats exploded, too. From 2003 to 2004, the league’s average passer rating rose from 76.6 to 80.9 – an increase of 4.3 passer-rating points. That’s huge for one year. To compare, the league’s average passer rating increased by just 3.5 from 1983 to 2003 – 21 years.

        In 2008, Brady got hit in the knee and missed the entire season. Then, the NFL changed its rules again. It outlawed defensive players from touching quarterbacks below the knee or above the neck. Since the NFL put that rule in place, Brady has missed zero games due to injury and his quarterback rating is 100.9. In short, Brady is a product of his era. Montana? He’s a prodigy.

        One last point which is anecdotal . . . Do you recall the Super Bowl play where Brady failed to haul in the pass thrown his direction on the second-quarter trick play from Danny Amendola?

        Brady looked like a middle-aged man with a spare tire and his four-year-old son was throwing the ball to him, ‘Nuff said on my part.

      • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:43 pm

        Yeah, I’m not saying the rules aren’t helping Brady, or for that matter, the officiating. Montana is perfectly suited for today’s game.

      • unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:52 pm

        Well, that’s not what you are saying, SOAD. Brady had 3 or 4 rules put in place especially FOR him. He had it MUCH easier than Montana. Going by championships, no one touches Automatic Otto Graham, BTW. 10 championship games n a row, and he won 7.

        And on your Mays point, the biggest fly in that ointment is Ruth didn’t play against the best players of his day. Mays did. So, there’s a very good argument that Ruth isn’t the greatest of all time.

    • Macdog said, on May 6, 2018 at 9:22 pm

      Blade, I did some quick research and found the Niners were favored by 3-3.5 vs. the Dolphins in SB 19.

      • blade3colorado said, on May 7, 2018 at 5:24 am

        Noted Mac . . . I checked and you’re right. I took this from Wiki and this is what most 49er fans recall . . . ”

        “As the Dolphins advanced to the Super Bowl for the fifth time in franchise history,[7] much of the media focus was on Miami’s young quarterback, Dan Marino. In just his second year in the league, he broke nearly every NFL single-season passing record. Marino set a record for the most completions in a season (362) and became the first quarterback ever to throw for over 5,000 yards, reaching a total of 5,084. He set the record for the most games throwing for at least 300 passing yards (9) and the most games with 400 yards (4). Marino’s 48 touchdown passes broke the previous record of 36, which was held by both George Blanda for the Houston Oilers in 1961 and Y. A. Tittle for the New York Giants in 1963. And he had the most games with at least 4 or more touchdown passes (6) and the most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes (4).”

        In effect, all the attention was on Dan Marino and Montana was almost like an afterthought. In fact, Montana and his largely unsung comrades had thoroughly embarrassed the media darling Dolphins. “Joe will never say it, but it’s understandable that with all the talk about Marino he would like to do well,” said Clark, Montana’s best friend. “The talk pushed him. I know I am prejudiced, but he is the best quarterback around today, no question.”

        Walsh went further. “He is clearly the best quarterback in football today and maybe the best in many years,” he said. “He is Number 1 in leadership, assertiveness, and he has those quick feet.”

        Regardless, like I said, I did check and you’re right, the Niners were favored, but it sure as hell didn’t feel like it during the 2 weeks before the game. Sheesh, and I lived in the bay area at the time, but it was all Miami and Marino everyone was talking about, with little or no respect given to Joe and the Niners.

  42. zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:01 pm

    I’d never heard of Zack Hample. Not that I should have.

    Zachary Ben Hample (born September 14, 1977) is an American ballhawk and author. He is known for his claim that he has collected more than 10,000 baseballs from major league stadiums in North America, including Alex Rodriguez’s 3,000th career hit and Mike Trout’s first career home run. Hample has faced criticism from fans, players, and sportswriters, one of whom has accused him of bumping children in his efforts to grab baseballs. His father was writer Stoo Hample.”

    • zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:02 pm

      • zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:06 pm

        I don’t see the point, but whatever.

  43. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:29 pm

    If Brady ever got hit Like Montana did, Burt would have been suspended for the season. If not forever. It’s a completely different game, as alluded to. Rules changes, including the Mel Blount rule make it easier and easier to pass the ball. Montana benefitted from that but the myriad rule changes since then, up to and including shrinking the chuck line from 5 yards to 1 is even more tilted to the offense.

    Oh, SOAD, then Brady didn’t win the first 2 Super Bowls NE did. VInateri did.

    • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on May 6, 2018 at 9:35 pm

      I’m an Otto Graham man. He reached the championship game every season he played, won seven. If not for him, the 49ers as we know them today, wouldn’t exist.
      The rules have changed to help passing QBs, help receivers get off the line. How about the defenses? How have they evolved?
      Couldn’t you make a case the run first safeties and linebackers Montana faced were easier to beat?

      • unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 10:21 pm

        Schemes are different than rule changes. And the biggest impetus to get the Niners into the NFL, beyond the fact that they were a successful and profitable AAFC team. was to give the Rams a rival on the west coast. Either that or you are alluding to the Paul Brown connection.

        Seeing as Paul Brown did all he could to get Bill Walsh blackballed from the NFL, fine. Fuck him.

      • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on May 6, 2018 at 10:51 pm

        There would have been a team in SF at some point, but if the Browns weren’t the best and most exciting, Post War, professional football team in America, the 49ers (who BTW, were probably the second best) wouldn’t have merged into the NFL along with them. The AAFC would have folded and the those two teams would have disbanded.

  44. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:31 pm

    And of course the tuck rule game . . .

  45. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    Bochy said this after the game: “It got a little scary, didn’t it? Yeah, it did. That’s what your closer has to do, he has to keep his composure out there and make pitches”… Personally, I’d rather see the *closer* NOT make it scary so he has to keep his composure…. But, no harm in this case…

  46. zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    “Moronta needs Papa John surgery.”

    Loo can make you laugh, and feel guilty about laughing. 🙂

  47. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    That was yet another epic Loo line.

  48. zumiee said, on May 6, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    On the Sunday night ESPN game the volume on the balls hit is jacked up so high each batted ball sounds like a rifle shot.

    • unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 9:13 pm

      Heh heh I noticed that.

      Dude, my main problem with Bron Beon is he never seems to make the guys around him better. Brady certainly has in NE. And Joe sure did when there was little offensive talent on those first 2 Super Bowl teams.

  49. willedav said, on May 6, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    It’s hard for me to get past accomplishments of wilt. One year 61/62 he played every minute of every game plus OT games and then played 12 playoff games doing the same, all 48 minutes. One of those was triple OT vs. Lakers, and he played all 63 minutes scoring 78 points with 43 rebounds.
    As the C, he had to run end to end all night, not like guards who went top of key/top of key. that will just never ever happen again even with all the flipping tv timeouts.

  50. unca_chuck said, on May 6, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    This Cubbie game may never end.

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