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Stuck On Top Of The Hump

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 18, 2018

Colorado has done a very nice job of building an A+ bullpen. It will be interesting to see if these guys can keep it going this year with all the wear and tear on the body and the arm they have to deal with way up there…..

I’m trying not to be down on Pierce Johnson. He’s given up no hits in 11 of his 18 outings this year. He’s really only had 1 horrible game. Bottom line is that we didn’t get enough hits, bombs or singles, last night…..

Lame weekend coming up. Pimlico track likely to be screwed up with water. I still like Good Magic but won’t be surprised if this is an easy win for Justify. And then we have to deal with the idiotic Royal Wedding on Sat, too. All those people just need to go away.

On Sunday, Dubs rolling at Oracle. Three more at AT&T and I don’t feel good about any of these games.

At least we have our ace going tonight…..

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  1. willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:19 am

    eh Rox didn’t do that much damage vs. Smardz and got nothing after 2nd inning, bunt couple walks. Giants held them scoreless for a full 9. Even Arenado didn’t hurt us, good thing.
    13 more Ks and Cutch had rough night. He sure takes a lot of pitches.

  2. willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:22 am

    TEN bombs for Belt and last few at ATT. Pence iirc had 27 when he was going good which I think is most non bonds in quite a while. Love to see Belt top that.

  3. willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:39 am

    Love to hear more about Sandawg Park.

  4. blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:06 am

    Fucking Melanoma hit rehabbing Williamson (concussion) with a pitch during a simulated game. I never thought I would say this – I hope the $500k player makes it back before the $62 million dollar man (who I wish would go away).

  5. willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:21 am

    My hope is Melancon can regain the health and strength to be able to do what he has done in the past, which is to play baseball at a very high level. To be deprived of that isn’t something I would wish on anyone.
    He’s gone through a long and strenuous medical procedure and I hope he can get back to doing what he likes to do, and help the team compete and win.

    • Lurker John said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:24 am

      The thing is, right now Muscle Head is pitching well, so where does Melancon slot in? Maybe an eighth inning guy to start, or does Bochy throw him right in as closer?

  6. Lurker John said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:22 am

    The Rockies just give the Giants problems these days. It used to only be in Denver, but now it’s in S.F. too.

  7. djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:30 am

    A lot of Yankee fans calling sports talk radio with idiotic trade proposals for Bumgarner. As the king of idiotic trade proposals I would know. Twin usually thought I undervalued our guys in the deals I concocted…

    • blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:36 am

      “Idiotic” as in favorable to us or the Yankees? Any examples Loo?

      • Macdog said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:58 am

        I haven’t been listening to this, but it’s safe to say idiotic as in favorable to the Yanks. Probably along the lines of Bum for Ellsbury.

      • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:01 am

        As usual they just want to steal him. Trying to dump guys like Hicks, Betances, Kahnle, Ellsbury (!) (by paying off much of his deal) and solid OF prospect Frazier. Various combinations…

      • sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:02 am

        It seems like trades proposals with the Mets are Loo’s specialty. I think he’s had deals on the table for Conforto, Flores, Lagares, and I believe even DeGrom in the past.

      • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:15 am

        Yeah, I’ve had a lot of those. I usually try to be fair and borderline realistic.
        I don’t think I ever went after Conforto…

    • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on May 18, 2018 at 11:35 am

      After I began following Fritz Peterson on his highly entertaining Facebook page last June (sadly, he had complications with his medications, and his nearly photographic memory disappeared overnight), I started following a Yankees blog, Pinstripe Alley.
      I swear to God, the same cast of dimwits post on every sports blog. It’s interesting, the lead writer was adamantly opposed to trading any of their prospects to help the Yankees win as he believed it was a rebuilding year.
      The contrasts in the parks makes the Yankees a good trading partner. Bumgarner and Belt would help them more than us, their right handed hitting prospects (some of whom were traded for pitching) would have worked here.
      BUT, it’s a good thing I wasn’t able to pull off the Nunez, Belt, Bumgarner trade for Fraizer (the OF), Torres, and Chance Adams.

  8. sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:32 am

    A couple final touches on SanDawg Park:
    -The Coke bottle and giant glove disappear. (Cheesy stuff IMO)
    -A Barry Bonds statue is erected asap right there in Willie Mays Plaza.
    -A spot is reserved for the Lincecum statue to be placed 5 years after he retires.

  9. djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:34 am

    Jeff Kent deserves every accolade that Orlando Cepeda got both as a Giant and for his career…

    • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:05 am

      And I loved Cepeda – my aunt sewed his name on the back of an undershirt for me with letters she cut out of cloth. Sounds like a story from the 1800’s. I literally cried when they traded him…

      • sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:27 am

        That is awesome. That trade was before my time, but I know my older brother took it very hard as well.

        I could have sworn you cooked up a deal for Conforto a couple of years ago when he was really struggling and may have even been sent down. The thought was we could have got him on the cheap.

      • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 1:23 pm

        Could be. Maybe the year he was red hot and went into a deep funk after facing Bumgarner in NY…

  10. snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:36 am

    Musclehead seems to be getting his S together more as closer. Melancon should not be given that slot just because he’s rehabbed enough to now be hitting his own teammates in batting practice. This dude has proved almost nothing as a Giant, his contract alone is no reason to vault him ahead into Musclehead’s spot. Is there an over/under on how many games Melancon will stay up before he goes back on the DL?…

  11. snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:48 am

    Belt keeps up his play and he’s got an All Star appointment…

  12. alleykat69 said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:48 am

    Hey wtf is going on with these umpires, do they have a personal vendetta with the Giants?
    1st it eddings with his lame ass excuse of just wanting the game to end so he rings up Belt on a obvious ball 4 to end the game the other night.
    Then this clown last night ejects Crawford for leaving his bat at home plate,wtf every team has these dudes called “BAT BOYS” that do that, fucking umps are getting out of control with their pompous attitudes!!

  13. chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:05 am

    Kind of glad I missed most of last night’s game. I hit the rack early at 3-0 (4:30 wake-up for a 6 AM spin class). Sounds like the Giants got jobbed again by the home plate ump. I call again for at least a test of a robo-ump to call balls and strikes. This shit is getting ridiculous…

    Don’t have a good feeling about the rest of this series, but hope I am wrong.

    Plus last night is Smardj pitched well, and went reasonably deep after struggling in the first two frames.

    Loo – any specifics on the hypothetical trades of Bum to the YankMees?

  14. dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:06 am

    Tough loss last night but good results from Samardzija. To me he seems like a guy that will really benefit from Bumgarner returning and taking some pressure off. If he could handle the spotlight he’d of been a quarterback. Its nice to see Strickland growing into the roll but I have doubts about him as the season goes on.The potential of adding Melancon is a good problem to have.

    SanDawg Park sounds like a fun place. Hopefully there’s none of that camouflage jersey bs.

  15. blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:09 am

    Yankees have one of he best farm systems in baseball. My idea may be sacrilegious to Giants baseball fans (as well as the do nothing, but “reload” Giants Front Office), but I would trade Madbum for 4 prospects (2 high tier and 2 2nd tier), along the lines of what Buster Olney proposed a few weeks ago:

    “The left-hander would become the most coveted trade target in baseball — maybe one of the most sought-after summer market pieces in baseball history — if the Giants ever auctioned him off, and he would probably glean at least two high-end prospects for an organization thin on minor-league talent. “Maybe two top-tier guys and two second-tier guys,” said an evaluator. “I mean, if any team traded for Bumgarner, it would be [a move] to win the World Series.”

    http://www.espn.com/blog/buster-olney/post/_/id/18460/olney-giants-should-consider-a-bumgarner-blockbuster

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:11 am

      I don’t think Bumgarner would deal well with a place like NYC. Also don’t want the Giants to trade him.

      • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:17 am

        I don’t think Bum’s afraid of anything, but he should be a Giant for life…

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:24 am

        I don’t mean he’d be afraid of something in NYC. More like his red ass act will escalate and he’ll have an aneurysm or something.

      • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 1:27 pm

        I wonder how he handles traffic.
        You can’t drive anywhere here anymore…

    • snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:20 am

      I would trade Bum in a heartbeat, as long as the return was high. Now is the time to trade him before his arm heads south. Giants are going nowhere in the next several years in terms of competition for another title, so load up on good young talent that is so desperately needed…

    • Macdog said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:22 am

      The only problem is Cashman seems to have a hypnotic effect on other GMs in that he’s able to acquire exactly what he wants without ever giving up any of his top prospects. It’s astonishing how generous other teams are when it comes to dealing with the Yanks.

    • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:06 am

      I know the team needs an infusion of young talent, but I do not want to see it happen via a Bumgarner trade.

      Also, he has a limited mo-trade clause with eight teams (I have been unable to find which eight teams).

      I agree with Loo, Bum should be a Giant for life.

      • blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2018 at 11:54 am

        Chi, per the article, he has zero no trade clauses in his contract.

    • Flavor said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:30 am

      I would be behind almost any trade of Bumgarner. His perceived value is always going to be worth more than his actual value.

  16. snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:29 am

    Like the article says, Bum is under contract thru 2019. They could trade him for prospects, then they could bring him back when he’s a FA. Leverage his high value now…

  17. blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:32 am

    I could give 2 shits about him being traded to the Big Apple . . . However, I’m down with him going anywhere versus us giving him a Cain (or worse) like contract. That’s just imbecilic to me, especially in lieu of all the other bullshit contracts we have on the books. Couple the aforementioned with us realistically not having a chance to compete for a title for the next several years (see snarkk’s post above – which I agree with).

    Madbum will want to be paid. It’s delusional to think otherwise. Frankly, we can’t afford him anymore.

    • snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:05 am

      Frankly he’s worth way more to a team competing for a title, so SF should “monetize” that value now into high talent prospects they don’t have…

  18. Lurker John said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:41 am

    I love Bum as much as the next guy, but the days of a player staying with one team his entire career are all but gone. At some point, the Giants have to look at retooling and he’s by far their biggest bargaining chip. Until the organization gets its head out of its ass and starts drafting and signing top flight prospects, deals should be considered, imo.

  19. chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:16 am

    As much as I want to see Bum remain a Giant, IF they did trade him, I would want the two TOP prospects mentioned (preferably a pitcher and an OFer), and the two other 2nd-tier prospects mentioned, too.

    • snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 11:07 am

      Well out, Chi…

      • snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 11:08 am

        Well put…

  20. Macdog said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:19 am

    Romo to start for Rays vs. Angels on Saturday. Interesting approach by Rays manager.

    http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/rays/2018/05/18/rays-have-another-new-different-pitching-plan-starting-sergio-romo-vs-angels/

    • snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 11:06 am

      Interesting, but what if Romo gets rocked out of the gate? The starter comes in immediately and pitches in the stretch from the get go?…

    • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on May 18, 2018 at 11:55 am

      Sergio Romo, hands down the best Giants reliever ever. When he left the team, he had the second best WHIP of any pitcher in MLB history, with more than 450 IPs and the BEST K/BB ratio.
      It’s gone up a bit, but in Melancon’s excellent best season for the Pirates, his WHIP was the same as Romo’s career average.
      Let that be a lesson to the young men reading this, unless you’re tall and burly, don’t grow a scraggly, unkempt beard.

  21. Lurker John said, on May 18, 2018 at 11:37 am

    A shrewd negotiator could squeeze some huge value out of Bumgarner’s supreme status as a post season pitcher. He’s the one guy you’d want going if you’re trying to win a WS. Whether or not the Giants possess such a negotiator is debatable. If we’re talking Boobie Evans, then I say no. Sabes, maybe.

    The right guy might land a franchise-altering haul of top-flight prospects.

  22. blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2018 at 12:01 pm

    LJ, I’ll preface this comment by grudgingly admitting that the Giants have out performed any and all expectations I had for the team this season (although the season is only about 1/4 complete). So, this is my comment – the Giants obviously have staff that can do this deal, e.g., Sabes and Evans put together this team and previous teams. Equally important, they’ve shown their negotiating mettle by signing Bumgarner to that ridiculous contract, which regardless of whether we trade him, will continue to pay dividends all the way through 2019 at a paltry $12 million per season.

    So yeah, they do have a negotiator. In fact, I would put them up against the moron in DC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. 🙂

    • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on May 18, 2018 at 12:09 pm

      Bumgarner signed that contract six days after they extended Cain’s.
      While it’s usually a bad idea to pay big bucks for free agent pitchers, it never hurts to take care of your own.

  23. YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on May 18, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    I hope trading Bumgarner won’t make sense in a month or so.
    Here’s the trades I’d like to see:
    Cueto for Stratton
    Panik for Gomez
    Hanson for Jackson
    Mac for Gorkys
    Dereck Rodriguez for Derek Holland

  24. blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) suggested on Friday that having “too many entrances and too many exits” at schools may have worsened the effects of a deadly mass shooting at a Santa Fe, Texas high school.

    Hmm . . . Eh, governor – I guess guns had nothing to do with it?

    • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 2:16 pm

      Not to mention the possibility of mental illness. In almost all of these mass shootings, mental illness is the crux of the issue.

      • Irish Kevin said, on May 18, 2018 at 3:53 pm

        If it was one of my kids that was shot and killed by theirs A hole, fuck his mental illness

    • wilcojoe said, on May 18, 2018 at 2:24 pm

      Fuck that four eyed fuck Dan Patrick. This shooting happened in the same county I live in about 20 minutes south of me. Is it going to take a mass shooting at an NRA convention to get these ignorant, small dicked fucks to make some changes? And don’t get me started on these ass wipes and their “you’re in our thoughts and prayers” rhetoric.

      • blade3colorado said, on May 18, 2018 at 2:58 pm

        Sincerely sorry about this happening in your community Joe. Also, I agree with everything you wrote, especially the last sentence.

    • xoot said, on May 18, 2018 at 3:20 pm

      you know things are bad when the headline says: “Worst Mass School Shooting since February”

  25. Flavor said, on May 18, 2018 at 2:27 pm

    what was Steph thinking to sign off on this?

    • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 3:33 pm

      Come on now, the design team spent a whole ten minutes coming up with that shoe design.

    • Irish Kevin said, on May 18, 2018 at 3:51 pm

      Money

    • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 3:56 pm

      I wouldn’t even shovel snow in those…

  26. Flavor said, on May 18, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    Arroyo batting 8th tonight for the Rays.

    • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 4:18 pm

      Looks like Duffy’s having a nice bounce back year – on paper anyway…

      • Flavor said, on May 18, 2018 at 4:21 pm

        i mean, he’s playing I guess that counts for something. But he’s just a guy. Just a guy. That’s all I ever thought he was. And I want more from my 3rd baseman than what he brings with the bat….

  27. djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    1. Gorkys Hernandez (R) LF
    2. Andrew McCutchen (R) RF
    3. Buster Posey (R) 1B
    4. Evan Longoria (R) 3B
    5. Nick Hundley (R) C
    6. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    7. Austin Jackson (R) CF
    8. Kelby Tomlinson (R) 2B
    9. Derek Holland (S) P

    • Flavor said, on May 18, 2018 at 4:47 pm

      uninspiring but whatever, till we get Willy back we gonna need our ace Holland to keep games close.

  28. djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    The men in soot already down 2-0 in NY. Goldy looking helpless against DeGrom who looks awesome.
    Ron Darling just re-affirmed that these are the ugliest road uniforms in baseball and wondered who could possibly have thought otherwise…

    • Macdog said, on May 18, 2018 at 4:53 pm

      Three sub-.200 hitters in the AZ lineup tonight, and Goldy’s barely above .200.

  29. Flavor said, on May 18, 2018 at 4:46 pm

  30. Macdog said, on May 18, 2018 at 4:49 pm

    • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 4:52 pm

      That gives the medical staff a 50/50 shot at treating the correct knee…

      • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 5:29 pm

        lqtm…

  31. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 5:01 pm

    Everyone but actionless Ironman get hurt. This must mean Belt is about to hit the 60 day DL.

    • Flavor said, on May 18, 2018 at 5:03 pm

      it’s insane. All our best players have gotten hurt this year. And the old, shitty ones, who actually do play, just sail onward without so much as a scratch….

  32. djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    Cutch looked like he could use a 10 day DL vacation last night.
    I think the Pittsburgh experience might’ve drained him…

    • Flavor said, on May 18, 2018 at 5:36 pm

      he’s gonna be ok this year, shell of his former self. At least we only have him for a year. A great guy to have on the team, tho

      • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 6:06 pm

        Seems like so many guys go straight downhill at 30. Used to be your prime years were ages 28-32.
        I think the players miss greenies desperately. I had a boss who used to dispense them to the staff during busy times. They were awesome…

      • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:12 pm

        And I don’t get that, Loo. Hell, these guys have the best training, diet, everything at their disposal, and wear down at an earlier age. Pussies.

      • unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:34 pm

        Guys collectively weren’t as good, so the bar was lower. And they were playing for less and therefore had to work harder for it.

  33. Flavor said, on May 18, 2018 at 5:38 pm

    Crawford getting thrown out because he didn’t pick up his bat needs to get looked at by MLB. That was total fucking complete bullshit. As he said, “we literally have a guy who is supposed to pick up the bat.” And he gets thrown out for it. Unreal, unacceptable….

    • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 5:42 pm

      It’s probably one of those unwritten rules. On a called third strike it must be considered showing up the ump if you leave the bat there – unless it’s the 3rd out (was it?)

  34. zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 5:42 pm

    It seems (to me) like more batters than ever are getting broken bones from being hit by pitches. It has to be because there are more pitchers than ever throwing mid-90s heat.

  35. Flavor said, on May 18, 2018 at 5:44 pm

    meanwhile, Friday afternoon at Pimlico….

  36. willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    I read Olney’s piece few weeks and dismissed it as nonsense, Still do.

    First, I believe it likely Giants/Bum can work out decent agreement in non-Cain or Zito terms that will mutually benefit everyone
    .
    Second, the proposed return is NOT happening. No one will give up top 2 prospects and a pitcher. Show me where this has happened recently.
    This is especially true of Yanks–they just acquired Stanton to whom they owe $$$$$$$$$$$$$. They would demand SF takes some salary chump vet off their hands, last thing Giants need.

    Third, I refuse to watch them be the White Sox and I think the owners know fans here will do the same. ChiSox have ton of prospects and are f-ing awful. They will lose 100+ this year and how many beyond is anyone’s guess.

    No thanks. I can watch minor league ball in San Jose. Giants have enough money in the bank, with further development of property already planned, to go completely different route to rebuild/reload.

    • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:18 pm

      Good post, WillieD. I wasntimg saying it WOULD happen, but to me, to trade Bum, it would have to be a significant haul (top OF and pitching prospect). But I do NOT want it to happen. I want to see Bum a Giant for life.

  37. Flavor said, on May 18, 2018 at 6:24 pm

    • willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 6:32 pm

      remember that night vividly. Also the bomb he hit in Detroit.

      Best line I heard was, “He’d give you the shirt off his back. and call a press conference to tell everyone.”

  38. willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 6:38 pm

    Looked up the Chris Sale deal Dec. 2016 He was 27 same age as Bum and had already 4 seasons of 5+ WAR ball behind him with White Sox. In other words minus post season stuff, much better than what Bum has done.

    the return: One current ML player, IF Y Moncada, one SP in first year of AAA (5th year of minors with ERA around 5.00 for current team) and 2 guys at A+ ball. One decent player, one maybe,2 stiffs long ways away.

    Do this for Bum, the guys will go down in infamy like Charlie Williams

    • sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 6:48 pm

      I agree. You’re not gonna get a big return on Bum. I also don’t think it will take 200 mil to sign him.
      Biggest mistake was Giants not tearing up his deal or extending him years ago as a few of us on here begged them to do.

      • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 6:55 pm

        So true. Shoulda done it at the 2014 parade…

      • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:24 pm

        Absolutely should have done it earlier.

    • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 6:54 pm

      Funny thing is that the Giants probably got the better of that deal. Williams wasn’t much but he did last quite a while on some awful Giant teams. Mays was mostly done by the time the Mets got him and actually became a source of some controversy when he forced WS hero Agee to the bench…

      • willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:02 pm

        Stoneham got the Mets owner to guarantee May’s got paid top dollar too right? this was the bigger issue iirc.

      • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:07 pm

        I think he got some kind of 10 year personal services contract from Mrs. Payson who adored Willie…

  39. Flavor said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:01 pm

    the Bum trade is based on him coming back and being a stud AND us falling out of the race, something I don’t see happening. But it could. And if it did, world series fervor would take over and GM’s would lose their minds. The allure of what Bum could do for them in the post season would up the bid substantially.
    Now, I don’t think we are falling out of the WC race and Bum succeeding will have a lot to do with that. So it’s incompatible that we will see us fall out of the race and Bum soar with a bunch of stud outings.
    But I do think he would bring a big haul to a desperate contender at the break this year.

  40. zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:05 pm

    Krukow is wearing the ’14 championship ring tonight. Sweet-looking ring.

    • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:09 pm

      As I said back then, the 2014 ring should’ve been a likeness of Bumgarner’s head made out of diamonds…

  41. djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:25 pm

    More GG stuff from Crawford…

  42. chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:26 pm

    Damn! Nice play by Craw. Dude makes it look so easy…

  43. chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:29 pm

    Gorkster!

  44. djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:29 pm

    Gorkys gotta be using the stuff – can you blame him?

  45. willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:30 pm

    Hard to f-ing believe. both of Gork’s bombs this week have been crushed.

  46. zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:32 pm

    Yeah, nothing suspicious about Gorkys’ power increase this season.

    • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:37 pm

      We know Gorky’s secret, Zum…

      • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:41 pm

        lulz!

  47. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    Nice!!! Not sure I’d go on that, but . ,.

  48. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:42 pm

    18 to 56 is an increase in home runs. Was that Brady Andersin? 2? ot so much. If he ends up with 17, well it means he’s playing too much, but that would be something.

    • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:59 pm

      How about Kirby Puckett going from 4 to 31 from 1985 – 1986?

      • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:03 pm

        Rich Aurelia’s 37 HRs in 2001.
        lqtm

    • willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:12 pm

      well 0 all last season in 300 ABs. 2 this week, 3 total in little over quarter of season.
      Weird enough, he had 20 doubles last year. This year none and no triples either, only bombs for XBHs.

  49. willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    Where did Rox SP learn that hesitation move, Japan?

  50. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:56 pm

    Where the fuck did that miss?

  51. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 7:59 pm

    Jeeebus. Heading to 60 pitches in 3 innings.

  52. chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:05 pm

    Helluva play by Arenado…

  53. djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:05 pm

    Wow, Arenado got him by a mile…

    • xoot said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:06 pm

      astonishing throw. But I think Krukow’s overdoing the praise for the “athleticism” of these athletes. It’s his new “arm slot.”

      • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:09 pm

        Professional athletes are athletic? Who knew?

      • unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:13 pm

        Bartolo Colon?

      • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:26 pm

        Professional athletes athletic? Not according to John Kruk. Oh, but he was a ballplayer and not an athlete….

  54. chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:06 pm

    Holy shit…Holland getting a knock…

  55. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:12 pm

    McSuckin’

  56. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:15 pm

    If that’s Mac he’s got 2 broken legs and a broken arm.

  57. willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:15 pm

    Guy reminds me of Golds on AZ tho. Just a very talented guy that would be worth paying to see, if he wasn’t killing your team.

  58. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    Holland is dancing with danger

  59. snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    A year from now Cutch is back on the Pirates at $2 million for the year, so he can waive good-by slowly. So far, the Giants could have saved $14 million or whatever it is on him, and played Slater or Duggar instead. They would not have had worse offensive production — with better defense…

  60. snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    Phhtttt…

  61. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:24 pm

    Just as Kruk says he’s hitting .167 . . .

  62. chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:25 pm

    Is it just me, or does it seem that every time the Giants announcers go talking about an opponent hitter, the guy hits a fucking HR…

  63. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    Flailing at the change up so he throws a cripple fastball in the spank-me zone.

  64. zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    Royal wedding tomorrow; Henry VIII is marrying Catherine of Aragon.

    • unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:28 pm

      I dated a Catherine from Aragon.

      • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:34 pm

        Henry proposed marriage before meeting her. When he finally met her, he said many unkind things about her looks to various people.

      • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:41 pm

        Here she is with a monkey for some reason.

      • unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:48 pm

        She didn’t have a monkey.

      • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:51 pm

        Monkey’s are not to be messed with.

      • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:08 pm

        She had a monkey paw around her neck….

        And a three-footed monkey…

  65. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    Snap, crackle, pop goes the bullpen.

    • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:31 pm

      Someone mentioned doing an over/under on Melancon. I’m going for the under no matter what the number is.

      • sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:42 pm

        How about an over/under on the length of the scar on his elbow?
        I’ll set the line at 5.5 inches.

      • sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:44 pm

        I’m actually pulling hard for the guy. I 100% supported the signing and he seems like a solid dude.

      • snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:46 pm

        It was me, zum.
        I’m going for the under, too.
        He’s solid, except last year he apparently pissed off some of the other guys in the Pen, but that was hushed up…

      • unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:46 pm

        6 feet under. He’ll never pitch again.

      • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:47 pm

        I’m going way over. I’ll say it’s at least 8 inches.

  66. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:47 pm

    Holland is prolly going 120. Or not. Moronta has waddled to the mound.

  67. zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    • snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:56 pm

      I hope the medico that put that 8 inch zipper on Melancon’s arm is not the same guy that cut open Lowry’s forearm when the problem was the thoracic nerve bundle on his left, pitching side being squeezed between his first rib and collarbone…

  68. sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    Big fan of the Rockies version of Amy G. BIg fan.

    • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:53 pm

      It’s a more glam look. She’s wearing more make-up.

  69. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    Wow. We may not get a hit the rest of the night.

    • sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:57 pm

      The stocking cap look is working for me too.

  70. sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    Every time I see that photo it shocks me.
    Snarrk, that bullpen deal with Melancon was Fake News.

  71. Lurker John said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    I don’t care what Chris Sale’s WAR is or was, what is his post season resume compared to Bum’s? A big, fat zero, that’s what. At the age of 22 Bumgarner was beating the Rangers on the game’s biggest stage, game 4 of the World Series. 8 innings, at Texas, after a loss. Ice water. He’s only gotten better since then.

    Bum’s value lies in his ability to perform his best when it matters the most, more than Kershaw, more than Scherzer. People remember what he’s done in the WS in his career and that’s what they’d be paying for. It got Panda Sandoval $95M and he’s worth about two of Bumgarner’s sweaty jockstraps.

    Exactly what makes anyone think Bumgarner wouldn’t return a couple of top flight prospects?

    • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:56 pm

      Even more impressive: Bum was a 20 year old vs. Texas.

    • Lurker John said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:04 pm

      Looks like we’ll have to split the difference, zum. Born 8/1/89, the game was 10/31/10, so he was 21.

      • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:08 pm

        Ah, I’ve been remembering that wrong for years. 🙂

  72. zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 8:55 pm

    Arenado with his obligatory damage to the Giants.

  73. zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    What the heck was Bochy thinking this inning?

    • snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:11 pm

      I dunno. Holland was getting hammered and looking spent before that blast that brought in run #4…

  74. sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    I don’t think its totally fair, but unless you throw 95+, I don’t think GM’s view you as an elite pitcher.
    And those great Bum performances were 4 years, a separated shoulder, and a broken finger ago.
    How many games has he won since then? Feels like about 20.

    • Lurker John said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:04 pm

      It’s the mystique, that’s what would be for sale.

      • sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:11 pm

        Good point. I still worry if a generous buyer could be found though.

    • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:07 pm

      Bum’s career stats, Dog and don’t forget the 2016 WC game:

      https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bumgama01.shtml

      • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:15 pm

        Crazy numbers. 4-1 K/BB…amazing ERA and WHIP over nine years. And yes, the playoff ass-kickings get lost in the stats…

  75. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    Shoulda won yesterday. Gonna lose tonight. Strat has to last at least 6. Got to get one of these games.

  76. djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    The old Zito quality start for Holland…

    • xoot said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:29 pm

      our ace would be a decent five–but all of our other current starters would be too

  77. zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    Belt has some fluid in his knee, but it’s not serious.
    ???

  78. unca_chuck said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    Our solid bench contributes mightily. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  79. sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:07 pm

    I hope the ticker tape is bringing you good news Gomez, cuz I worry about your future as a ballplayer….

  80. Macdog said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    Baggs rippin’ Actionless on Twitter:

    Desmond’s RBI double had a 45 percent hit probability and was in the air forever. One of these days the Giants will have a center fielder with at least average range. Oh wait, they already do at Triple-A

    The Austin Jackson signing was questionable only if the Giants planned to play him exclusively in center field. They said they would play him at all three spots as a No.4 outfielder.

    (verifies stats)

    They have played him exclusively as a center fielder. .

    • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:18 pm

      He has to be the first in the OF to go…he is beyond sucking….he’s a fucking strikeout blackhole, and sucks in the OF…

  81. Macdog said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    Here’s what Duggar did tonight.

    Oh, and Mac hit a HR.

    • xoot said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:27 pm

      now there’s an athlete showing his athleticism. get him up here. bring Slater and MacWill too

  82. sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    I don’t mean to throw a ton of shade at Bum–hell, if I were in charge he’d be a Giant for life. I just don’t think that other teams value him as highly as we do. He’s won four games in the last 14 months. If you think you’re gonna get a Bartolo Colon to the Expos caliber haul of prospects for him, it ain’t happening.

  83. chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    Just when you have a potential 2out rally going, Actionless is AB…ouch.

  84. zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    Here’s Mac playing the outfield tonight.

  85. chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    Right on -Belt PHing for Actionless….

  86. willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    I think off season would be optimum time to let it be known Bum was available if Giants wanted to play it that way. Might attract more teams/offers. At deadline, don’t see more than a team or two going in, barring injury.
    And no, SF ain’t getting the next R Acuna on mystique alone.
    Dodger suckitude so far tho just changes entire dynamic of whole division, which is wide open.

  87. chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    I do not know how the hell Belt watched that pitch for strike 3…damn.

  88. djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    Why the fuck would he not swing at that???

  89. Macdog said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    That will not be a disputed called strike 3.

  90. xoot said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    that pitch was a strike. Belt effed up

    • djloo27 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:41 pm

      It was as if he was entirely unaware of the count, the score, and the game situation.
      Just had to be a stubborn, dumb fuck who has to have his perfect pitch no matter what else is going on….

      • xoot said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:46 pm

        he hasn’t been so bad this season. He’s been aggressive. Not so often frozen by heat on the black, imo. Maybe coming off the bench chilled him tonight.

    • willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:07 pm

      definitely.

  91. willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    Good IF D tonite by both teams. Couple nice plays from Specs.

  92. xoot said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    after Adrianza for so many years, isn’t Specs a delight?

    • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:57 pm

      Yep…just wish he brought a bit more with his stick…

  93. sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    I think with Belt you just have to accept that its gonna be a bit of a rollercoaster. He’s gonna go down looking in some tough spots, but in the end the numbers are going to real solid. I don’t think he has turned a corner and decided to be more aggressive. He is who he is.

    3 in 5 has mellowed me on stuff like that. If we were still 0 for San Francisco, I’d probably be screaming at the TV when he goes down looking in a big spot.

    • xoot said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:56 pm

      did you see or hear radio-side Belt’s 21-pitch AB? that Belt is different than previous incarnations. the HRs so far tend to support it, don’t they?

      • sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:59 pm

        He was on pace to have a nice homer year last year too, wasn’t he? Especially for a lefty at ATT.

        Did not hear or see 21 pitch AB as it was happening.

      • xoot said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:04 pm

        he was, last year, but right now he’s on pace for close to 40. I also don’t think the old Belt would’ve called out the ump the other day. But I’m probably being overly optimistic. I suppose there are other explanations for a power surge and bad anger management . . . hey, . . .

      • sandog said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:09 pm

        My main thing with him is just hoping he can play a full season.

    • chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 9:58 pm

      Thanks for the reminder…I’ll take a pause and bask…

  94. zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    Blackmon has a mullet.

  95. snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:05 pm

    Valdez not ready for prime time…

    • xoot said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:12 pm

      my son is really annoyed by how much Valdez resembles Casilla at his worst–as if some weak ghost survived in the Giants’ pen

  96. willedav said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    Bochy keeping 13 pitchers is kinda silly if clowns like Valdez Snelten yada yada are part of it.

  97. chipower9 said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    That was some really weak shit…

    • zumiee said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:19 pm

      The Giants weren’t competitive tonight, and the Rockies are looking like the pace-setter in the division now.

  98. xoot said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    hasta mañana

  99. snarkk said, on May 18, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    Giants only hit one outfield out this game, rest of their outs were infield grounders, pops, and strike outs…


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