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Tough Times

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 6, 2018

When an average pitcher like Luke Weaver is spinning a perfecto against you, at any point after like the 2nd inning, you got problems. I’m not completely down on the Cueto start. He did pitch very well in the minor leagues. I haven’t been able to see what his velo was in the rehab starts.

But come on, if this alternative approach to rehabbing his elbow doesn’t work, will anyone be surprised?

John Gant faces us tonight. They could pitch Ron Gant and probably get the same results.

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  1. pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2018 at 7:24 am

    Liked Gant comparison.

  2. pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2018 at 7:25 am

    I couldn’t sleep after the game, so I did this: https://thelaughorist.blogspot.com/2018/07/open-sesame.html

    • willedav said, on July 6, 2018 at 8:08 am

      ah thanks. Simple acts of kindness can make such a difference. I’m fortunate enough to witness them on daily basis; many customers are incredibly polite and pleasant to encounter. On other hand, I do notice too many children not taught to act responsibly in stores and left to own devices by inattentive/pre-occupied parents.

    • Flavor said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:44 am

      goddamn PK, if I spent this much time hashing and re-hashing shit that happens to me in a day I’d go insane. But beautifully written, as usual.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:28 am

        like what else is there for me to do? don’t answer that

  3. willedav said, on July 6, 2018 at 8:10 am

    And again despite recent slide giants haven’t lost ground, still 3.5 out as DBax continue to lose and are now tied with LA. DRod goes tonite(don’t think he’s going anywhere either) and Bum will pitch Sunday after Smrdz.
    Strat appears to be odd guy out. Middle relief didn’t provide much of same last night after Cueto left.

  4. unca_chuck said, on July 6, 2018 at 8:14 am

    5 runs in 4 games is the problem here. All the bats are silent. And with a bench of 000s there’s no relief there. Pence and Jackson HAVE to go. We can’t afford a noodle bench when the starters are noodles themselves.

  5. unca_chuck said, on July 6, 2018 at 8:34 am

    Fucking TBS. All those mid 80s Braves are forever etched into my brain.

  6. snarkk said, on July 6, 2018 at 8:49 am

    I’m digging the Rodriguez kid. Acts likes he’s been up for 4 years. He hasn’t been pitching his whole life, so that arm has lots of tread for the next decade…

    • pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:21 am

      Agreed. Hi snarkkkkk. How are the snarkettes? Ballet? My ballet daughter has mostly retired, except for gigs here and there, which is hard to gear up for. Teaches pilates in NYC, the obligatory waitress job. And dean’s list at Hunter College. English major, like Dad. (“Continue the family tradition of poverty.”)

    • chipower9 said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:56 am

      He was drafted as an OFer…and agree, I am really liking him (and Suarez), too. I think these two are long-term keepers that hopefully provide a great L-R punch for years to come.

  7. pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:19 am

    I just wish this team would figure out who they are: the team 5 games above .500 or the team 5 games under .500. Make up your fuckin minds.

    • snarkk said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:57 am

      They’re both. Average the two and that’s what they are — a .500 squad. At $197 million for the privilege. But, definitely better than last year….

  8. chipower9 said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:53 am

    Tough times? IMO, it is business as usual. All year long (or at least it seems that way), this team has gone through little spurts of winning, getting a handful of games over .500, and then they forget how to pitch or hit, and slide back to .500. When they are clicking, they are a fun team to watch, but damn, this has to be one of the more frustrating years in some time. They ARE the proverbial Jekyll/Hyde of the baseball world.

    I am SO happy I had my 6 o’clock spin class this morning, as that meant I had to take my ass to bed early, and I got to miss most of the game (I left the game as Blach was coming in). WTF is up with Blach. He was doing so well, and then he’s laid major turds in his last two outings.

    Oh well, with this team you have a short memory. Hopefully they get back on the rails for another win streak.

  9. alleykat69 said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:58 am

    Lol Krukow…
    MIAJ itching to get up in the 9th( hmm down by 9 are whatever?) is swinging a good bat right now!!🤮🤮🤮

  10. unca_chuck said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:46 am

    I know they got to say positive things, but Jesus. K & K smoking MINAJ’s pole in the 9th down 9 is hard to swallow. So to speak.

    The main reason I think they just fade away is their complete reluctance to dump Pence, Jackson, and Gearrin and bring up the youth. Burning two position spots every everlovingmotherfucking game is incredibly retarded when they are this close to the West lead.

    They WILL fail with Pence picking termites out of his ass, and Mr. February not even getting PR duties.

    Sure, getting Longo back will help, but the nonexistent bench will doom them.

    I know we’ve all said this over and over but the later we go in the season, and the fact we ARE still in the race, the more asinine their penny pinching becomes.

    • snarkk said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:53 am

      With ya their, Chuck. Wasting two spots with Pence and Actionless, and then Gearrin gets a turn to face a couple of Gus every fortnight is just ridiculous. Every game they are essentially fighting 25 with 22. Like I said, the lux tax is now the Giants GM. The local sports media should be all over this…

      • snarkk said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:54 am

        Gus = guys

    • pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2018 at 11:12 am

      laughed at ‘picking termites out of his ass’

  11. chipower9 said, on July 6, 2018 at 11:17 am

    I happened to stumble across this article on Jake Peavy. Long, but a good read…

    https://tinyurl.com/y8sgm5fl

  12. zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 12:15 pm

    From things being leaked from the commissioner’s office, it sounds like a lot of changes are happening in the next few years.
    These are a near certainty:
    -pitch clock
    -DH in the NL
    -rules limiting defensive shifts in some way
    Possible changes: expansion, and realignment.
    And, in my opinion, if the Yankees and Red Sox are dominant teams for the next few years, MLB will change the playoff format so that the Wild Card gets more than one game.

    • unca_chuck said, on July 6, 2018 at 1:05 pm

      Manfred is hell-bent on killing the game. He’s chasing an audience that isn’t there at the cost of the fans he has. He will lose both and attendance WILL drop.

      Kinda like the Dems ignoring their voters at the cost of converting the non-convertible.

    • chipower9 said, on July 6, 2018 at 1:11 pm

      Limiting defensive shifts is asinine. But the one that really gets me in a twist is the DH. Manfred is an idiot. We should (along with families and friends) begin writing him letters asking him to quit fucking with a near perfect game.

      • xoot said, on July 6, 2018 at 2:02 pm

        what’ll the penalty be for violating the shift rules, automatic 1B for the batter? extra strike? One outline I saw proposed to limit IFs to the dirt, or to within a couple of feet of the dirt (a new vicinity rule, maybe). effing idiotic.

    • zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 2:00 pm

      He’s going to feel like he has big ammunition this off-season, if attendance stays lower than it was last season.
      I wonder how many of the owners feel strongly one way or the other on these things. I get the feeling he will persuade the vast majority of them.

      • unca_chuck said, on July 6, 2018 at 2:38 pm

        The owners themselves are the reason for the shitty attendance. Look at Fla. They completely dismantled their team and it is horseshit. Their brand new stadium is in a shit part of town and no one goes. The White Sox, Cincy, SD, Pitts, Oakland, Minn, and Houston (till recently) are perennial underachievers and their attendance has sucked because of it. They get their profit sharing $$$ anyway and line their pockets.

        The owners don’t give a flying fuck about the rules of the game. Most of ’em anyway. As long as they get their TV money and sell their $14.00 beers and overpriced swag.

      • zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 3:23 pm

        The owners aren’t going to blame themselves for the drop in attendance, though. They’re going to be looking for ‘quick easy fixes.’

  13. alleykat69 said, on July 6, 2018 at 12:23 pm

    Bochy on Coors Field “:If I knew we going to score only 3 runs I wouldn’t of showed up”
    Well guess what Boch you shouldn’t of showed up last night as well at home!!

  14. zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 2:06 pm

    The craziest stuff that got floated by the commissioner probably has no chance.
    A designated runner placed at secondbase in the 11th inning, and allowing teams to bat whoever they want to in the 9th inning regardless of the batting order.
    Both are such assaults on the history and integrity of the game, that either one could drive me away as a fan.
    I won’t be a fan of Arena Baseball.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on July 6, 2018 at 2:33 pm

      In Rochester, I recently witnessed the runner at second base thing. Not baseball. Like penalty kicks. Ugh.

  15. zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 3:30 pm

    Having any kind of rule to limit defensive shifts is MLB admitting the sport was out-smarted by sabermetrics. This would be the first rule, I think, that specifically attacked a sabermetric development in the sport.

    • zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 3:33 pm

      Had the ball not been juiced these last couple of seasons, however, then maybe more players would be trying to hit the other way against the shift instead of just trying to launch OVER the shift.

    • xoot said, on July 6, 2018 at 4:52 pm

      the five inch lowering of the mound in 1969 was similarly motivated

  16. alleykat69 said, on July 6, 2018 at 3:44 pm

    1st thing baseball needs 2 do is increase the rosters from 24 to atleast 27, since were only playing with 22 with MIAJ, Termite infected Pence, and Insomnia Gearrin..

  17. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2018 at 4:18 pm

    1. Alen Hanson (S) LF
    2. Buster Posey (R) C
    3. Andrew McCutchen (R) RF
    4. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    5. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    6. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B
    7. Joe Panik (L) 2B
    8. Gorkys Hernandez (R) CF
    9. Dereck Rodriguez (R) P

    • zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 4:31 pm

      Bochy’s trying to rotate 6 guys in the outfield now. Good luck with that.

  18. xoot said, on July 6, 2018 at 4:20 pm

    Clifford Rozier dead at 47, heart attack. From the thin Yahoo story:

    “Once his basketball career ended, Rozier endured tough times, mental health problems and drug abuse. When he wasn’t in jail, he often lived on the streets.

    “When the Lexington Herald-Leader caught up with Rozier in 2010, he was broke and living in a Bradenton halfway house, but he was content with his modest life.

    “’I’m happy,’ he told the newspaper. ‘I have joy. I have understanding. I have knowledge. I’m learning. I’m becoming friendly. I’m submitting myself and being subdued.’”

    Hell, he died happier than I am.

    • djloo27 said, on July 6, 2018 at 4:49 pm

      Cheer up, Xootie…

  19. zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 5:44 pm

    Ed Schultz passed away. He had The Ed Show a few years ago on MSNBC. I watched it sometimes. He had a unique style that brought something different to that network.
    After he was let go by that network I lost track of his career. I would have never guessed this:
    “After his television program ended, Schultz
    was hired by RT, a television service formerly known as Russia Today which is funded by the national government of Russia.”
    That’s a little disconcerting.

  20. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    Anyone else?
    Let’s get the obituaries done before the game starts…

  21. chipower9 said, on July 6, 2018 at 6:21 pm

    Ladies, just to be clear, I was not joking when I suggested we all write letters to Manfred. I plan to write one. If we sit and do nothing, we have no bitch if and when they institute some of those asinine rules.

    I wrote a letter to the commissioner (Fey Vincent at the time, I believe) when the Giants were a step away from Tampa Bay. There was a group who was big behind that campaign, but I seriously do not remember who spearheaded that effort.

  22. willedav said, on July 6, 2018 at 7:02 pm

    Giants bench…Hanson and Slater basically share LF Hanson LH has been pretty good and hit a bomb last night for Giants only runs. Slater looks good too, but i’m calling over/under bombs this month at 3. Gorks who was a bench guy is now solidly entrenched as starting CF hitting .276 with 11 bombs near .800 OPS.

    Hundley has had a nice run at plate. Sando is league average filling in for Longo, tho not much as RH.

    Pence is awful. Problem is, Williamson after he got hurt also sucked. He’s at .213 for the season and has as many rbis as Pence does. Post concussion 1 bomb.

    Specs also sucks despite how well he fields throws and runs. He’s right above Mac at .221 and 0 bombs in 113 ABs. Jackson has actually done more at the plate than either Mac or Specs.

    Duggar? Shaw? Both of these 2 K a lot off AAA pitching, not a good sign. Could either of them do more than Hanson? I doubt it. So let them stay where they are.
    Pence and Jax btw them rep about 250 ABs out of Giants total of over 3000. Bigger issue to me is how well full time everyday reg players are doing.

    • djloo27 said, on July 6, 2018 at 7:04 pm

  23. zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    Not sure why Hanson dove headfirst into firstbase. The play wasn’t that close. Easy to get injured on that play.

  24. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2018 at 7:27 pm

    Buster on pace for about 9/50.
    How about dropping him in the order every so often?

  25. Macdog said, on July 6, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    A two-out walk constitutes a rally for the Giants.

  26. chipower9 said, on July 6, 2018 at 7:32 pm

    Nice play by Craw!

  27. willedav said, on July 6, 2018 at 7:33 pm

    Guys hurting the Giants right now are the every day hitters currently slumping:
    Sando 3-20
    Cutch 1-13 in July
    Craw 3-15 in July
    Panik 2-18 in July

    0 bombs for all above

  28. willedav said, on July 6, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    Couple more everyday guys:

    Posey 2-11 3 BBs
    Gorks 3-19 1 bomb 0 BBs

  29. snarkk said, on July 6, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    Yadier Molina at 35, almost 4 yrs older than Posey, is totally outclassing Posey offensively, with 13 bombs, 38 RBIs and .505 SLG and .831 OPS.
    WTF?…

  30. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    I’ve given up on the idea of Panik ever developing into anything special as a Giant.
    I think it would’ve happened by now.
    He’d probably hit 25 homers in Yankee Stadium…

    • djloo27 said, on July 6, 2018 at 8:22 pm

      And now he’s hurt again…

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:15 pm

      Overvalued and injury prone.

  31. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2018 at 8:34 pm

    June 27th was 3 years since Lincecum last pitched for SF…

  32. willedav said, on July 6, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    Molina last year was .750 OPS guy which is about league average for hitters and making $14 mil. In the 3 yrs before that he hit a total of 19 HRs. This season, sure he’s doing great. But he’s also .740 career OPS guy, nowhere near what Posey has accomplished as a hitter.

    Hey Cards extended him 3 yrs $60 mil so he’ll be making $20 mil age 37. It’s a nice thing to do for a HOF C but how often. will he be playing C by then?

    • snarkk said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:25 pm

      Buster won’t be catching at 35 like Molina.. I doubt he’ll catch much after 33. Pudge on KNBR today said the Giants are transitioning him out of C soon because of his “back”, whatever that means. Changing to what, IDK, he didn’t say. I dont’ doubt it, the guy is 31 and acts like he’s 38…

  33. Macdog said, on July 6, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    Yeah Pablo!

    • djloo27 said, on July 6, 2018 at 8:56 pm

      Got a feeling it won’t be enough…

  34. willedav said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    K and K talking about it right now, but if the kid keeps getting Cards to hit the ball to Crawford he’ll be fine.

  35. zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    The ‘Pudge and his son’ story is a great thing. It’s been one of the highlights of the season,

  36. chipower9 said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:11 pm

    One other thing I like about young Rodriguez is his number, 57. That was a good year. I am on delay…just finished the 5th. Fishing for a much needed win…

  37. zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    I’m like Jack Buck saying I can’t believe what I just saw.

  38. snarkk said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    ‘Bout time McCutchen drives in a clutch run.
    Radio said just before, that for the season he was hitting with RISP at a pathetic .200…

  39. snarkk said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    Rodriguez with another very good outing. 2 earnies for 7 frames, and one was kinda lucky.
    Smardzxxx should be so good…

    • Macdog said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:29 pm

      Should be 1 ER, Hanson’s screw-up in LF let in the first run.

  40. mrsprtdude said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    3 runs in one game? A Juggernaut!

  41. YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    Maybe he can reinvent himself as a reliable pinch hitter.
    Julio Francopence.

  42. snarkk said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    Awright, let’s Close this puppy !….

  43. chipower9 said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    McCutcheon is fucking killing me…

  44. djloo27 said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:42 pm

  45. snarkk said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    Yesssss !!!!!
    Now that’s a friggin’ clean save.
    Smith needs to be the damn closer, no question.
    If his arm can handle 2 or 3 days in a row, I’m in with him to close…

  46. Macdog said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    Smitty!

    • zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:43 pm

      • alleykat69 said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:56 pm

        Senor Catwoman Tat boy keeps impressing, Rodriguez’s is the real deal,along with Suarez, if they pull either of these guys from the rotation then The orq doesn’t give a shit about winning anymore..

    • djloo27 said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:09 pm

  47. snarkk said, on July 6, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    Panik going on DL with a groin. Who do they bring up?…

    • alleykat69 said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:02 pm

      Easy Snarkk,you slide either Specs are Hanson to play 2nd, bring up Duggar,Shaw are Mac the knife , basically the Bowker boy replacements to fill in..

    • djloo27 said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:03 pm

      I guess, Specs (again). Plus someone’ s gotta go when they activate Smdj…

    • willedav said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:05 pm

      mm I would think Specs to cover IF vs. LHP. also for D. I like Hanson but he’s an adventure almost everywhere in the field. STL has 2 more RH SPs going so Hanson probably starts at 2b. He’s done most of his damage as LH.
      Hopefully that means slater can start in LF.

    • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:20 pm

      Maybe Chase d’Arnaud. I thought Tomlinson was already on the active roster. If not, then it will be him.
      D’Arnaud is a poor man’s Alen Hanson, which would make him an upper middle class Eugenio Velez or a rich man’s Dan Uggla.

  48. snarkk said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    Man, you guys are all over it.
    The beat writers should be as good as Flappers…

  49. chipower9 said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    And finally, a win. Can they string together some wins, win some series, and do it consistently? With the roller coaster ride to date, I won’t hold my breath.

  50. willedav said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:21 pm

    Neck tats (ugh) aside, I have ton of respect for Yadier Molina as best C of the family and someone who belongs in HOF when he retires.
    But imo Posey is superior player and has had far better career. He has been much better hitter whether he hits HRs or not, and just as good if not better defender. OPS? WAR? no question who is better.

    last year, with exception of rbis, Molina ($14 mil) had almost exact same offensive numbers–13 HRS .270 BA .750 OPS– as…Denard Span. Posey has never ever done that and won’t this year either.

    • YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on July 6, 2018 at 11:01 pm

      I’d take it one step further. Posey is clearly the best catcher of this century and you have to go pretty far back (Bench?) to find one who’s better.

  51. chipower9 said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    I suspect like others that Specs gets the nod for Panik, and Stratton or Blach will get optioned to Sacto to make room for Smardj.

  52. chipower9 said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    Torres cracks me up…always pimping it. It is cool as hell to see him on the pre- and post-game shows. I like his insight and comments.

  53. Macdog said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    Angels rally for 2 in the 9th off Jansen to stun the Bums, winning run scoring on Puiggy throwing error.

    • zumiee said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:36 pm

      Cool!

  54. chipower9 said, on July 6, 2018 at 10:54 pm

    During t postgame Bochy said Slater will get most of the playing time in LF. I am ready to see the kid get some steady time. He also said Hanson will get most of the work at 2nd.

  55. YogiBarrister (@Yogi47951368) said, on July 7, 2018 at 12:32 am

    Will Smith as closer? I’m gettin’ jiggy wit it.


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