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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 19, 2018

Can you imagine how many beers Harvey pounded last night to celebrate his 5th quality start as a Red? Man, I bet he was slammin’ them. And San Dawg will be slammin’ them, on me, next time I see him in Reno.

Today Brandon Belt is leading off. Why not? That’s actually something I’ve wanted to see for a long time now. Unfortunately, Belt walking a couple of times will do little for the overall production of the offense.

It’s funny to listen to the KNBR talking heads try to make sense of all of this. They seem at a loss why the Giants can’t beat the Reds. The Miami Marlins castoff announcer kept talking about the Reds being better since they fired their manager—that happened in April, lol. All of this is nonsense. We have a better record than 4 teams in the NL. Basically, we are one of those 4 teams. That is the reality that nobody at KNBR wants to talk about.

Here ya go, Dirt. How’d today’s haul stack up to yours? Sun golds, early girls, tie dyes, lemon boys, we got ’em all here at Casa de Flavor.

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  1. wilcojoe said, on August 19, 2018 at 8:01 am

    At seasons end I would love to see the Giants ownership bring Beane and Melvin into the offices at AT&T, push over a blank piece of paper and a pen and say “boys, name your price.”

    • Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 8:13 am

      I don’t think beane would do it. I think he likes having to work with no money. It’s almost a built in excuse. Like if you gave him a blank check and he failed he probably couldn’t live with that.

      • wilcojoe said, on August 19, 2018 at 8:35 am

        I totally agree with that take. He has a major fear of failure thing going on. That being said, as we all know, there is very little pressure from Bay Area media as well as the fan base when compared to a Boston or NY market.

        Plus Charles Johnson would have an excuse to keep payroll down since his GM prefers to order from the kids menu.

    • Bozo said, on August 19, 2018 at 8:44 am

      I think Beane is a minority owner of the A’s.

      • chipower9 said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:26 am

        You’re right, John. To what extent I don’t know, but Beane is a definitely a minority owner with the A’s. No way in hell he is crossing The Bay.

  2. zumiee said, on August 19, 2018 at 8:28 am

    I can’t see Baer firing Bochy, Evans, and Sabean. More likely they’ll be allowed to finish out their contracts, and then will be offered fake front office positions, like Righetti.
    They can join Dusty Baker, too, in whatever he does.
    They can all nap under their desks like George Costanza.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 19, 2018 at 8:39 am

      What you said.

      This organization is clueless. Disgusting what has happened since 2014.

  3. willedav said, on August 19, 2018 at 8:35 am

    The Houston team in LL WS has the white bumblebee unis from Jose Cruz days on.

  4. wilcojoe said, on August 19, 2018 at 8:38 am

    Some of these Little League moms are the definition of MILF.

  5. Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 8:52 am

    this new NFL helmet rule is ridiculous. They can’t enforce this when the season starts, it will literally ruin games.

  6. Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 9:48 am

    lol

    • snarkk said, on August 19, 2018 at 9:50 am

      He ran that one before…

      • Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 9:57 am

        I know. But it’s awesome

    • chipower9 said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:20 am

      That is still fucking hilarious…

  7. snarkk said, on August 19, 2018 at 9:48 am

    Blade late in last thread said SF had hit just 2 HRs in the last 93 innings. So, 2 HRs in basically 10 games.
    TEN games. With the juiced ball and this era of MLB, that is just beyond pathetic.
    I hear this morning that before yesterdays game, Bochy had a meeting with the hitters.
    Wow, that did a lot of good.
    Trade Bum before his value goes down. If they sign him to a LT albatross deal, they are insane.
    This whole organization needs a high colonic…

    • Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:09 am

      this is why I say “ho hum” to any OPS talk. An .800 OPS is nice but not when it’s built on walks. And these days even .800 is getting kind of pedestrian. There are 61 mlb players with OPS over .800 this year. We need guys who can bang it out of the park. Period. End of story.

  8. snarkk said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:10 am

    Bochy said in pregame that Sabean would join him in New York.
    Not sure why he made point of saying that. Maybe they will be cooking up a blockbuster trade.
    Yeah, right…

  9. chipower9 said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:19 am

    The (crowd?) in Cincy is pathetic. Almost as pathetic as the Giant’s bats.

  10. dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:24 am

    Nice looking crop of tomatoes. Just made another batch of sauce last night. 8 or 9 in the freezer already and more on the way.

    I’ve been coming around to the idea of moving Bumgarner. Just the eye test but he’s showing signs of decline to me.

  11. snarkk said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:25 am

    Seriously, this Giants radio announcer is just not on.
    I hope they aren’t serious about this guy.
    Roxy Bernstein is better than this, he does A’s sometimes, and he did Marlins games before for several years.
    I’d even rather listen to Greenwald’s kid, and he’s as exciting as a wet sock…

  12. willedav said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:26 am

    another ground out with RISP. Craw is 3 for 27 0 for Cincy.

  13. willedav said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:31 am

    nice AB from Gorks. Pull a flyball deep and get a run in.

  14. chipower9 said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:32 am

    .

  15. chipower9 said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:34 am

    Nice haul on the tomatoes, Flav. Nothing like a home grown tomatoe. Mmmmm….

    • Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:41 am

      yes. I actually don’t eat them from the store, they don’t compare to the ones you can grow your own. So, most of the year I don’t eat tomatoes

  16. Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:42 am

    Diggity texted me that his internet is down but he sends his regards. I told him to come here on his phone and he declined saying that’s not how he rolls….

    • chipower9 said, on August 19, 2018 at 11:00 am

      The Flap on the phone can be a bitch. Been there, done that.

  17. chipower9 said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:59 am

    WTF, Gorks. Seriously what the hell was that…

  18. Bozo said, on August 19, 2018 at 11:10 am

    OK…So today’s team meeting must have included many shots of tequila.

  19. willedav said, on August 19, 2018 at 11:10 am

    Suarez throwing BP again. Start before last Miller was talking about hitters just teeing off on him.
    gotta wonder about Sabes coming to NY on heels of complete downer of a series. Has to be a point where you admit what you have isn’t working.

  20. Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 11:10 am

    Bochy has just given up. Why leave Suarez in there to get completely hammered? When has he allowed a pitcher to give up 7 runs in an inning?

  21. Lurker John said, on August 19, 2018 at 11:10 am

    “Slip slidin’ away…”

  22. Macdog said, on August 19, 2018 at 11:23 am

    The Cincinnati skid.

  23. Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 11:56 am

    just one day I’d like to be able to run like Billy Hamilton. Just. One. Day.

  24. Lurker John said, on August 19, 2018 at 12:09 pm

    Great series in L.A. then this unmitigated disaster. I’m all but done with these fucks.

    • Bozo said, on August 19, 2018 at 1:26 pm

      Agreed.

  25. zumiee said, on August 19, 2018 at 1:13 pm

    The Phillies tore it down and rebuilt it. It’s clearly what the Giants need to do. And, heck, let Bum and some other guys play for contenders. It would be fun to see Bum on the Yankees heading to the playoffs.

  26. zumiee said, on August 19, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    To emphasize things said on the Flap, the A’s hit 2 HRs early in their game today.

    • willedav said, on August 19, 2018 at 2:52 pm

      And the Stros rebounded and knocked Manaea out early. At some point pitching will have to take over.
      Outside of pen guys doesn’t seem to be A’s strength.
      And their rep ultimately will depend on October. Last time in was 4 yrs ago and didn’t work out too well.

    • xoot said, on August 19, 2018 at 3:40 pm

      a’s have butchered some plays in the field today. Not a good D team

  27. willedav said, on August 19, 2018 at 3:01 pm

    “Bum on the Yankees?” Yeow sure hope not. I’m looking forward to them being first AL team eliminated by losing WC game and the whining about unfair current system is.
    Stat I saw today said Giants averaged 91 Ws during 3 in 5.

    As for OPS, if no one ever got on base there would not be 3 run HRs.
    Fun fact: the day Mets scored 24, Phils hit more bombs than they did..

  28. willedav said, on August 19, 2018 at 3:14 pm

    Reds today were hitting clinic but only had 2 bombs. 17 hits 3 walks, OB of .500 and 7 other XBHs beside the HRs so the slugging pct was pretty dang good too. OB + slugging…hmmnn.

    • zumiee said, on August 19, 2018 at 3:25 pm

      Well, yeah, it’s not just about HRs; it’s about hitting the wall, and the gaps, and the corners, too, with decent regularity. Hitting the ball hard regularly, in general, which leads also to more singles getting through the infield.
      Putting some fear into opposing pitchers, which also leads to more walks.

    • Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 3:27 pm

      “only had two bombs”…how many games this season have we hit 2 bombs?

  29. Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 4:23 pm

    SF has one guy with an OPS over 800. Belt at .818. As I said earlier today, there are 61 major leaguers with OPS over .800. And we got…..one

  30. blade3colorado said, on August 19, 2018 at 5:06 pm

    This guy Murphy from McCovey Chronicles must be reading The Flap for inspiration . . . To wit:

    “The very best players in the Giants lineup have disappeared. Since the All-Star Break:

    Brandon Crawford: (24 G) 18-for-91, 6 extra base hits, 7 BB : 20 K, 3 GIDP (.548 OPS)

    Brandon Belt: (7 G) 5-for-28, 2 extra base hits, 1 BB : 7 K (.528 OPS)

    Buster Posey: (21 G) 24-for-84, 3 extra base hits, 6 BB : 11 K, 4 GIDP (.655 OPS)

    Evan Longoria: (20 G) 20-for-81, 6 extra base hits, 6 BB, 11 K, 2 GIDP (.686 OPS)

    Their respective OPSs for the season? .766, .835, .748, .705. These “core 4” are why the Giants are going to keep pushing their chips into the middle of the table through 2020.

    For comparison’s sake, the Diamondbacks have three full-time players with OPSeseseses over .800 (Goldschmidt’s is over .900). The last time the Giants had three full-time players with OPSesese over .800 was in 2015, when they had four such players. The last time they had a player with a .900+ OPS was 2012 (Melky Cabrera: 906, Buster Posey: .957). So, it is possible for Giants’ offense to contain elite hitters despite playing in AT&T Park 81 games a year. Next year, all four of the above players will all be a year older and unlikely to top previous career highs.”

    • zumiee said, on August 19, 2018 at 5:31 pm

      I’m now fully onboard with a tear-down/rebuild. I supported the idea of holding off on that this season; but any chance this season had was ruined by injuries, and now the Giants need to bite the bullet, risk losing some fans for a few years, and do what needs to be done. Start jettisoning the older players. They will be beloved forever by Giants fans; legends forever, but the best longterm move for the team now is to trade them for whatever can be gotten, and to see how much salary can be dumped.
      I know the Giants brass has spoken against that, but they HAVE to be weakening on that. They’re bright guys. They can see what other teams are doing.

  31. unca_chuck said, on August 19, 2018 at 5:30 pm

    Once again, they play with fierce determination against the Dodgers, and lay down like whipped puppies vs the Reds.

    Typical crap with this team. Although getting with these injuries week after week after week has to take its toll.

  32. Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 5:58 pm

    yes, the Giants front office is comprised of bright guys. It’s also comprised of stubborn guys. If you tell Sabean this is how the game is played now he’ll tell you to go fuck yourself and continue to put together a shit offense centered around pitching and defense. They can’t wrap their head around how to win with bombs at AT&T because the park is just too imposing for them to think that way…

  33. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on August 19, 2018 at 6:52 pm

    In some post-game comments, Bochy almost seemed satisfied that hey, at least they scored more than 1 run… eek. Too bad there isn’t some kind of insurance policy a team could have for bad burdensome albatross contracts. If owners could be reimbursed from a bad contract policy, they could dump half this team and get on with it….

    • zumiee said, on August 19, 2018 at 7:22 pm

      Yeah, some of the Giants contracts aren’t just bad, they are AMAZINGLY bad. Some of that is looking at it with 20/20 hindsight; but still, man, the Giants need bold and audacious GM moves now. They need to scorch-earth this roster of older players, take a pounding for a few years, and reload completely.

      • zumiee said, on August 19, 2018 at 7:28 pm

        This is where Baer needs to step in big-time. He is the liaison between the owners and the baseball front office and the fans. HE needs to step forward, explain what needs to happen, and make it happen. This is all on him now.
        If he won’t do it, then he’s going to preside over a decline that will last longer than it had to.

      • Flavor said, on August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm

        Baer doesn’t give a shit about the team. All he cares about is this mall he’s building. I guarantee he thinks that even if they keep losing the fans will keep coming because of this dumbass mall. All he’s there to do is make $$$ and he is good at that. There’s more than one way to skin a cat or whatever that saying is. If his team can’t win he can still make money other ways.

  34. blade3colorado said, on August 19, 2018 at 7:51 pm

    They should have done the rebuild last season. They rolled the dice on a “reload” and came up snake eyes. Regarding the injury excuse, I don’t buy it. Injuries are part of the game. In fact, if anything – when you have the oldest roster in MLB, it follows that you’re going to be much, much more susceptible to injuries.

    If you recall, both the Phillies and Astros made the mistake of sticking with older players, prolonging their wilderness years. They finally wised up and blew up their rosters, getting rid of the dead wood.

    Quite frankly, I think this FO is terminally stupid and will ignore calls for a sensible rebuild. Consequently, expect to see most of these stiffs next season.

  35. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on August 19, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    Yeah, Steve, I don’t know how stupid they are, but they sure are stubborn. Going into this season, I was willing to see if they could indeed get ONE more year out of *the core* (Posey Belt Craw Pence I guess), but as those numbers show in your post above from the McCovey Chronicles, that core is now officially rotten. Or at least mediocre at best. If your core of players is mediocre at best, then it follows that the whole team will be too. It’s beginning to look like the FO doesn’t want to do any major rebuild as long as the old guard of management is still in place (Sabes, Boch) so as not to stain their careers; they’ll let the next administration handle it. Unfortunately, that probably still means at least one more year of this crap. Does a Baer shit in the woods? Nope, only on the field….

    • blade3colorado said, on August 19, 2018 at 9:02 pm

      Does a Baer shit in the woods? Nope, only on the field….

      Good one!

  36. zumiee said, on August 19, 2018 at 9:15 pm

    Someone has to speak the truth to power. It’s hard to imagine who that is. We the fans only have so much voice.
    We have to hope Baer does care what’s happening on the field, and that he cares enough to do what needs to be done. I know, at heart, he’s a salesman, and he probably believes he can still market a creaky old roster for a few more years. But it’s dereliction of his role as team president if he feels that’s the top priority.

    • willedav said, on August 19, 2018 at 9:32 pm

      you would hope the guiding light would be the excitement the younger players have brought to the team—Slater Duggar Hanson DRod Moronta. Hey they make their share of mistakes but that’s how you learn grow and hopefully mature into productive ML players.

      • blade3colorado said, on August 19, 2018 at 10:22 pm

        I hope you’re right Willie. To me these guys have provided some excitement and energy to a lifeless franchise. However, with the possible exception of DRod, all these guys have holes in their games and I for one, am not “hanging my hat” on them rescuing/leading this team out of mediocrity. Slater, Duggar, and Hanson would likely be utility players on any other MLB roster. Nice players, but not difference makers in my opinion.


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