Dumb Lie
I’m still laughing at the NBC Bat Area analysts who claim the Giants are waiting till they’re mathematically eliminated before they cut Buster up. Really? Do they even know Sabean? This is the same GM who waved the white flag on the 2013 season on July freaking 8th calling it a “Bad Penny Year” and using that as the excuse for doing nothing at the deadline that season. This is the same team that is a single event away (two Mets smashing into each other) from losing 6 straight to the Reds and the Mets over the last week.
So this *mathematical nonsense* is just fodder for the lame fans who still think we’re in this if we can just go on a little run. Just. One. Run.
It’s completely disrespectful to try to sell *math* as the reason Buster is still playing…..
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Bum and Belt are exactly what the Yanks need. Torres and Andujar are untouchable. Would you take Greg Bird, Clint Frazier and top pitching prospect Justus Sheffield?
Absolutely.
I think the biggest prob with that offer is that nobody besides SF will value those guys as highly as sabean. I do think belt would be great in NY
Belt would help the Yankees more than Bum.
The value of Bum to the Giants in 2019 would probably exceed that if whatever prospect the Yankees would be willing to give up.
Sheffield will be called up next week. If Severino wins the play-in game, there’s a good chance he makes their post season roster.
Belt for Chad Green?
Mr SD had a good take late last night. We may be watching Busters last stint as catcher. Hip surgery ain’t no hangnail. Joey could be up starting after ST next season. Giants obviously took him first with the hip knowledge in their pocket…
Still think Giants could move anyone—FO has to be full in on it.
Contract? Hey send some back while making an offer and weighing prospects. Belt Craw are owed another few years at $50 mil…send $10 mll of it back you save 80%.
And as it is, yard is still a gold mine. No way you see Candlestick crowds of few thousand for a night game mid week.
As for no trade, take the time and effort to communicate with the players. Hey we are looking into something and would like your feedback–if someone came to us how would you feel? Are there areas of country/teams you would absolutely object to or prefer? Invest time and effort, moving someone would be doable. I really doubt any Giants would go Adam Jones route.
Dodgers are sure interesting these days. they lead league in HRs with 176, are second in runs with 600 and have lowest ERA at 3.50. And have 5 more Ws after 130 games than the Giants…who outplayed and outpitched them a week ago in the Latrine, last time things felt really good here.
Good spin on how to approach guys with no trade and limited trade clauses in their contracts. That, communicating with them, and showing them some respect, is the only way a potential trade flies, IMO. Good call, WillieD.
Over the course of 162, all teams go through good/bad stretches. Cards are hot right now, LA obviously not.
Pirates had a good run over a month, now they are 2 games under .500. Anyone at .500 or slightly above is a legit contender with close races in every single NL division. LA proving no matter how much talent you have you can still have a bad week when team looks like shit… I’m sure their fans are dooming it up just like here given expectations.
giants, my expectations coming in were completely different. They lost 98 freaking games last year and I couldn’t watch Calixte Ryder Jones Moncrief and the 0h no I can’t believe it LHPs among host of others. They will likely lose somewhere btw 12-15 less games this year; there are lot of teams with similar record plus or minus a few, no small accomplishment given health challenges they’ve had that started before season even began and continue as we speak.
1. Andrew McCutchen (R) RF
2. Joe Panik (L) 2B
3. Evan Longoria (R) 3B
4. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
5. Austin Slater (R) LF
6. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
7. Nick Hundley (R) C
8. Madison Bumgarner (R) P
9. Steven Duggar (L) CF
Country strong batting 8th why not, I like it he might run into one are not but wtf..
I need a win on my birthday, this is my chance even if it’s Degrom yikes!!
ha enjoy Kat
you deserve a break today
maybe getaway LU goes off
Thanks Willied
Happy birthday, Kat.
Thanks Chi
I think Belt would get eaten alive by the NY press. O goodie, Bummie batting 8th.
Fuck me.
Ed King passed away yesterday. He was the guitarist for the Strawberry Alarm Clock, and more famously for Lynyrd Skynyrd. Two of the most un-similar bands you can point to in rock history. Incense and Peppermints to Sweet Home Alabama? Makes perfect sense. Growing up in the 70s it was all about Skynyrd.
Still have the ticket stub for the Skynyrd/Frampton/Santana show in Oakland (OD On the Green) in 1977, a few months before the plane crash.
I was at that show Chuck!
Brought in Rum&Punch in a gallon plastic milk container my friends too.Started a human pyramid after that it got pretty foggy in all our brains 🧠 lol 😂
Hah hah! We did the old vodka in the watermelon trick. As well as a few bota bags full of whiskey. Yeah, all those daze on the green kinda blur together into one enormous show. Prolly went to 7 or 8 of those. The Nuge w/ Blue Oyster Cult, Aerosmith with (show stealer) UFO, Van Halen, and Pat Travers (iirc). Stones, Missed the Zepplin show unfortunately.
Bum and his 3.05 ERA would be well inside top ten in NL if he had enough innings.
It’s equal to Greinke tho other peripherals aren’t near as good as his.
Also last year and this year combined only about 200 innings,
Still see him as good role model type for younger SPs.
deGrom not sharp at all today.
Like it matters.
Both Mac and I were unable to go today.
Too bad – nicest day in months…
wow what was up with that? Hit Mez in the glove didn’t it? Cross up?
Good for Duggar to get the BB that started it all.
LMAO. I’ve been scrambling a bit here at work this morn, and finally got a chance to dial-up the audio on the game.
I see our first run was scored by a passed ball. Typical Giants offense for this year. Hopefully not the only run they score today. 😂😂😂
And it looked like it was a foul tip.
Bum, helping himself.
yaha bum helps himself again.
man deGrom really gotta be pissed with home plate ump.
Wow. Hundley should have been called out on strikes. Speeding through the first couple innings.
oh no right before they went to break Bum is walking off, after shaking his head, turned and looked like he said, “what?”
man stay cool pls
Bummie likes to pitch with an edge. Shit, DeGrom lit up the home pate ump. He knew he had fucked up and kept his mouth shut, Kinda like Johnny Mac and tennis. Some people play better pissed. . . .
But more umps should learn from that and not get angry when called out on shitty calls.
So much for that edge. Get him out of there.
Hooooo boy. Nice job, take him out, bring in Moronta.
NO. Great K to end the inning and got out of the jam with patented GIDP to SS.
Longo getting that run back
Longo Bongo!
yeah insurance. Had feeling Giants glad deGrom was no longer in there.
wonder what was said there btw Bum and Bochy.
I have some faint hope that Wrongo bounces back strong next season…
You and me both, brother.
WTF….come on, Smith. Close this bitch out.
Kid has been tough out today, 3 good ABs off Bum.
Holy shit the Giants played a good game. Took advantage of opportunities, showed some pop, played D and rode good pitching to a win. So that’s what it looks like.
Blow out the candles, Kat, they got ya a win.
Cheers man.
Time to celebrate, Kat! Not that you wouldn’t…I don’t think you let too many opportunities sip, er I mean slip by.
Ballgame! Happy Flight!
wow. Ump wants to go home as quick as possible.
Realize travel there out of the question, but type of great pitching match up Kruk would have enjoyed seeing.
Bum’s ERA down to 2.88. Trade value might never be higher but I hope he stays. He’s still worth watching as a P and ABs never dull either.
Giants have him under controil for one more year, so they might as well see how next year goes and wait till the deadline in 2019. Unless the Yanks pile on the players to get him. I dn’t see us dealing him though. Not till next year.
Absolutely, Charlie. They have him for $12 mil. No way in hell you can go out and get a SP anywhere near him for that coin.
Happy birthday, ALLEYKAT!
If I’m Sabean I go to the old yanks buddies and say Here’s Bum on a platter. You need him to get through the Bosox to the Series. Give me your offer. If not good enough, I’m calling the Bosox when I hang up on you…
Problem is I do not believe management has any desire to move Bum at this time. I think they’ll do as Unca describes and exercise that $12 mil option, and then see how things play out next year.
Good win today against the best pitcher in MLB, who got his usual run support. Would’ve liked to go just to see the pitching matchup, but couldn’t make it.
Wow, Rox just won 4-3 over the Pads on a 2-out 2-run HR by Desmond in the 9th.
We failed to represent, Mac…
Happy birthday, Kat! The G’s came through for ya!
I don’t wish anyone a happy birthday between the ages of 18 & 75.
Unless, I have no choice.
HB, AK69 – Skink it up, good…
How about an Unca-palooza in KC for 49ers-Chiefs on 9/23?
I;m in!!!
Really Chuck?
I wonder how many here would sign on for that.
It would make some kind of nutty history…
Yeah Boys,
A rare win,I’ve had a pretty good track record over the years on my birthday games though so I felt confident today..
Yes I just arrived in my local watering hole
the bartender (Darlene) somehow remembered it was my Birthday , so she set me up with a Makers on the House! Could be off and running are stumbling getting my skink on tonight!
I’ll be doing the same…
he doesn’t say much in this article but I guess it’s a little interesting anyway
https://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/article/Giants-Brian-Sabean-Total-rebuild-13178152.php?utm_campaign=twitter-premium&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social
When I check back in later, I half expect to see a post from MacDog stating that since moving to San Francisco the Giants are 17-43 on Kat’s birthday…
I’m about to try to watch an A’s game. Wish me luck. Not sure how much I’ll get through. First impression is that Stew is 10,000 times better than Andres Torres at analysis.
if Ray Fosse is doing TV he’ll put you to sleep…
So after having his career “destroyed” by Pete Rose in the 1970 ASG, Fosse was once again the AL All Star catcher in 1971 and went on to win 2 WS with the A’s. Fuckin’ propagated bullshit…
Watching the Cubs pound the Reds 4-1 in 6th. Some Cub smoked a shot about 30 rows up into left center. Can we get some goddam power bats!!! I’m watching at the bar at Abuelo’s, a Mex restaurant about two blocks from the Padres/mariners complex in Peoria on the west side of Phoenix. Smoked 14 oz. prime rib with stuffed fire roasted
poblano pepper and Mexican mashed potatoes with Happy Hour double 1800 margaritas $8. My go to
Place for Mex food in Phoenix. Flapaloza ST in Phoenix? We see Giants play across the street and then spend a few hours here at Abuelos pounding Ritas and playing GM…
i turned on the tv. Boom, Kris Davis blasted one to right center. Next guy up, Olsen I think, smoked a double that got to the wall in a nano second. They’ve had plays at the plate, they use their speed, they are 100 X more interesting than the Giants.
Giants offense just suxxx Donkey Dong, there are no two ways About it. Watching other teams Play and hit with abandon is a god dam revelation. Cubs now 7-1 over Reds with some doubles. Baseball is fun to watch when your squad actually can hit and score runs…
And BTW, the Cubs AmyG counterpart is yet another late 20s smokin hot blond. Wtf am I still a Giants fan? …
They opened an Abuelo’s near us recently. I was very impressed. Excellent selection of Rita’s and the chips and salsa (if memory serves they give you 3-4 varieties) alone is a meal in itelf. Apparently they have several locations in the southwest.
They have one Pappadeaux here in Phoenix and I have to say it’s not as good as those I went to
In Houston years ago when I lived there. Expensive and food not great. I’d rather go to Abuelos, hands down…
The Sabean interview Craig cited above does kinda tell us what we already know (no rebuild), but I found one thing interesting. He says “However this turns out this year, this has been a good first step. We distanced ourselves from how last year went.” Meaning, I think, the team didn’t/won’t lose as many games as last year. But then he immediately says, “The offense has just been mind-boggling. It’s been so inept.” Um, like it has been for over 2 years now?
Just curious about what Sabes thinks is the good first step, since the offensive additions the team made in the off-season didn’t really help the offense. The only good first step I can see, and he alludes to it a little, is that circumstances gave the team the opportunity to see positive contributions from D-Rod and a couple of the youngsters. But that wasn’t in Sabes’ plans, that happened because of all the injuries Sabean bemoans this season. So…. still not sure where the masterminds will take this team….
Whatever they do, it will be incremental changes. A few players gone, a few added. I doubt we see anyone traded. I have tried to forget last season, but for this year’s team to improve so significantly over last’s, says how bad that team from last year really was.
Shittier to shit doesn’t do it for you?
Hamels gets the complete Cubs
Game against the Reds 7-1
Technically since this is waiver season, bum or Belt would have to pass through NL unclaimed before any talks with NY or Boston could begin. Belt I could see, Bum no. As Loo has said before Yanks also trying to stay under lux tax so taking on additional salary unlikely.
Can’t stand Maddon but cubs have fun to watch position players that for most part are home grown–beside Zobrist Heyward Russell and recently acquired Murphy. Their pitching, mostly acquired from elsewhere and very expensive, not so much.
Wille’s right. Bum would never clear NL waivers…